What I was thinking. I've done this with a few materials and noticed considerable brittleness regardless of how ductile the material. Maybe if you just twist really slowly without overheating the wire?
I've used twisted bailing wire for as long as I remember. I'm 68 and I first used if hanging mufflers on old cars as a kid. Great material to work with. And as long as it's not over twisted, metal fatigue isn't an issue. Strong and long lasting "bail-out"..
I like it :) The material is likely coat hanger wire which is called black muffle. It is a soft and very malleable material and its pretty tough. Its made to be twisted, stretched and bent all you want to a point, of course. It is not heat treatable, I mean a guy can hit it with a torch or toss it in a draw oven for a while at any temp you like but it wont make any difference and it will not anneal this already pre-annealed wire. It looks as though it is stretched very close to its limits so I imagine the idea is to make straight rods/wires/cables that arent meant to be bent too much more after this. This is a pretty cool way of doing it.
+Otto Knabe no, this kind of torsion will make the wires very stiff, far less flexible than they were beforehand, and also decrease their tensile strength considerably.. You can fix by annealing, but just twisting them will make them much weaker.
+PolyJohn probably, I just meant that it won't suddenly change properties, its still just metal... I guess this "trick" is more for looks than usability
I prefer a "good" used salvaged, bent, twisted, kinky wire to "bad", brittle, weak micro-cracked internal overstressed one. Try scratching it - pulling your fingernails (or teeth ;-) over it and you will feel it is cracked, even if not visible.
Well done video. Many people saying this will not work and seem to have good explanations, but I do this pretty frequently to join insulated wires into cables by twisting them together, solid and stranded. So far, not a problem, just keep the pitch of the twist reasonable. Have not thought to use it to straighten a wire.
what if a person doesnt have a vise or a drill? dont you think using a hammer would be much easy? and a think thats only good for a foot length wire.what about a long one? how much time it will take you to make it straight?
Will Erichson It is a much better way. I did this before this video and it worked well. I needed a straight wire so I used this trick. it also works with springs.
Neat idea, but it will definitely work-harden the wire, and you end up with a very ripply surface. Much simpler is just to stretch the wire slightly, without twisting.
I don't know how much this weakens the metal, but that's allot of turns, I like to put one end in a vise and grip the other end with large pliers and jerk it, until its perfectly straight.
No thanks. It's wire anymore. It's twisted wire. If you're just making some crafty artsy fartsy thing, you may not care, but if you need to maintain the strength of the wire, even if you anneal it, you have fatigued, cracked, and stressed it, as well as multiplying the stretching done further from the center by twisting it. Even if you anneal i and you haven't accidentally drawn it beyond it's malleability, You have now completely redistributed all stress applied by tension. You have also greatly distorted the surface shape. the proper way to straighten wire is to run it through 3 rollers set to bend it so slightly from a straight condition, it will simply spring back to straight. Actually, simply tension the wire and plucking it to vibrate will do much of the same thing! You have discovered how people twist wire though!
But the wire would be to brittle to use after that. You take all the plastic deformation potential out of it. Every twist puts the grains under more tensile stress, causes cracks to spread, etc. you are forcing creep on every void and imperfection in the metal. This is how metal fatigue happens.
I think you can use the same technique but instead passing the wire through a small orifice as you pull. This was, the wire won't get twisted and weak.
..And you get a very straight piece of wire that is almost useless from fatigue.. It's certainly a cool trick, maybe as a trick to impress your friends, but i can't imagine a use for a wire twisted that much.
You wouldn't do this if you know about Young's modulus. It will break soon because this whole twisting process imitates bending and straightening wire many times.
Thanks JohnnyQ90. Now I'm going to read all the comments that show just how stupid these genius's think your trick is. Today you have to write out hundreds of disclaimers just so people don't get to try to come in and "whip it out". (sorry so crude).
проволоке после этого пиздец. и не поможет никакой отжиг. Чтобы уплотнить то что растрескалось надо будет делать горячую прокатку... Кстати, знаю способ гораздо проще, и проволока после этого как новая. Даже два способа. 1. если проволока длинная - протянуть проволоку несколько раз через изгибающий канал змейкой, да хоть между гвоздями. 2. если проволока короткая - прокатать отрезок проволоки между досками или между металлическими пластинами
Nice trick but what about metal fatigue? Wouldn't the torsional stress cause it to break much easier?
yes it does work harden the metal, but you can counteract it by annealing with a torch
erdemk0 I agree 100%
erdemk0.. Was thinking the exact same thing.
It would be more logical to roll the wire between 2 stiff, hard and flat surfaces.
What I was thinking. I've done this with a few materials and noticed considerable brittleness regardless of how ductile the material. Maybe if you just twist really slowly without overheating the wire?
i did this by hand once and i breaks really easily
I've used twisted bailing wire for as long as I remember. I'm 68 and I first used if hanging mufflers on old cars as a kid. Great material to work with. And as long as it's not over twisted, metal fatigue isn't an issue. Strong and long lasting "bail-out"..
triple wire looks so cool, it might even be a decoration element.
I like it :)
The material is likely coat hanger wire which is called black muffle. It is a soft and very malleable material and its pretty tough. Its made to be twisted, stretched and bent all you want to a point, of course.
It is not heat treatable, I mean a guy can hit it with a torch or toss it in a draw oven for a while at any temp you like but it wont make any difference and it will not anneal this already pre-annealed wire.
It looks as though it is stretched very close to its limits so I imagine the idea is to make straight rods/wires/cables that arent meant to be bent too much more after this. This is a pretty cool way of doing it.
I like roll the wire back and forth between two perfectly flat pieces of wood, marble or tile.
Not bad... but the wire gets birttle due to that, doent it?
The conected wires look quite awesome... nice idea!!!
only the coating, you have to do something seriously wrong to make the wires themselves brittle
+Otto Knabe no, this kind of torsion will make the wires very stiff, far less flexible than they were beforehand, and also decrease their tensile strength considerably.. You can fix by annealing, but just twisting them will make them much weaker.
+PolyJohn probably, I just meant that it won't suddenly change properties, its still just metal... I guess this "trick" is more for looks than usability
Otto, No.. it will change the material's properties. The stress on this metal will make it brittle.
It needs to be annealed before use.
I found it's best to pull back tight on the drill when doing this
Neat trick, but in my experience it weakens the wire considibrally
Its nice to stiffen the wire but if it bends much will prolly snap
im intrested to see what hapens when they are over drilled.
and how resistance differ from a normal copper wire and a drilled wire...
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Yes that would be interesting , So would you like others to do the work for you or willyou do the experiments yourself?
Love the hardstyle background music man. Love it :)
i thought so too :D
Pretty smart technique
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I just drag it over the edge of a workbench a couple of times. No need to twist it.
I prefer a "good" used salvaged, bent, twisted, kinky wire to "bad", brittle, weak micro-cracked internal overstressed one.
Try scratching it - pulling your fingernails (or teeth ;-) over it and you will feel it is cracked, even if not visible.
great tip on how to turn junk into useless trash.
Well done video. Many people saying this will not work and seem to have good explanations, but I do this pretty frequently to join insulated wires into cables by twisting them together, solid and stranded. So far, not a problem, just keep the pitch of the twist reasonable. Have not thought to use it to straighten a wire.
Don't do this. Pull the wire instead.
what if a person doesnt have a vise or a drill? dont you think using a hammer would be much easy? and a think thats only good for a foot length wire.what about a long one? how much time it will take you to make it straight?
i will be using that in the future ,thanks
DatAssSVK be careful because it will fatigue the metal and make other wire weaker/more brittle.
after this just heat the wire with a torch go anneal it.
Samuel Scott Thanks
Byron Langerman okey,Thanks
Byron Langerman: , uhm ,... that would be normalizing not annealing but your point is well taken.
would it still be straight if you reversed it after that
Avoiding all the twist and stress put into the wire, you can straighten wire by simply stretching it.
This is common practice but with 2 wires for making sculpture armatures
What if you twist in reverse after?
Will Erichson It will basically twist in the other way
Boba Fett yeah I figured that much. I was wondering if the metal fatigue would just cause it to break.
Will Erichson No it won't. If you keep twisting the wire left and right, you will get a straight wire with no twists or anything in it.
Boba Fett ok cool. so is that a better way to do it then? If it won't cause metal fatigue why didn't he do that? Now I want to try it lol.
Will Erichson It is a much better way. I did this before this video and it worked well. I needed a straight wire so I used this trick. it also works with springs.
For jobs where wire strength is not important this is very cool.
I love Hardstyle music♡
Very nice XD
simple but tricky trick shown in a easiest way thanks sir
Neat idea, but it will definitely work-harden the wire, and you end up with a very ripply surface. Much simpler is just to stretch the wire slightly, without twisting.
Does this work with nicrom wire?
Would make good rebar for model concrete dioramas.
this wire is also about 2 turns away from fracturing. what was your planned use of this wire after you were done with it?
when i tried to do this, it just kept breaking off the end of the wire i was trying to straighten..
I don't know how much this weakens the metal, but that's allot of turns, I like to put one end in a vise and grip the other end with large pliers and jerk it, until its perfectly straight.
That's a handy tip, thanks.
No thanks. It's wire anymore. It's twisted wire. If you're just making some crafty artsy fartsy thing, you may not care, but if you need to maintain the strength of the wire, even if you anneal it, you have fatigued, cracked, and stressed it, as well as multiplying the stretching done further from the center by twisting it. Even if you anneal i and you haven't accidentally drawn it beyond it's malleability, You have now completely redistributed all stress applied by tension. You have also greatly distorted the surface shape. the proper way to straighten wire is to run it through 3 rollers set to bend it so slightly from a straight condition, it will simply spring back to straight. Actually, simply tension the wire and plucking it to vibrate will do much of the same thing! You have discovered how people twist wire though!
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wouldn't that pretty much change it's resistance?
This guy making monster vape coils or what
I used this and it worked so well
I'll also use square jewlery wire as small drill bits for drilling holes in plastic or even soft wood. It breaks often but ::ascii shrug::
Works better if you spin it while in tension (ie. pull back on the drill).
This would work great for art projects but not for engineering ones.
But the wire would be to brittle to use after that. You take all the plastic deformation potential out of it. Every twist puts the grains under more tensile stress, causes cracks to spread, etc. you are forcing creep on every void and imperfection in the metal. This is how metal fatigue happens.
But will it blend?
Thank you
I think you can use the same technique but instead passing the wire through a small orifice as you pull. This was, the wire won't get twisted and weak.
This is actually a method used in ancient wire and jewelry making.
Muy interesante !
makes it brittle through work hardening, and shortens the wire. Plus it can only be done with very malleable metals.
Can't you just pull on the wire until it stretches a bit?
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..And you get a very straight piece of wire that is almost useless from fatigue..
It's certainly a cool trick, maybe as a trick to impress your friends, but i can't imagine a use for a wire twisted that much.
You wouldn't do this if you know about Young's modulus. It will break soon because this whole twisting process imitates bending and straightening wire many times.
good video keep it up
Everyome in my school in germany lern how to that, but not all kids can do it at the end of the school XD
Will this straighten my sexuality?
Misael Cifuentes no but some zaps will
is 2 G-volts enough?
Depends on the amperage and pulse length.
Hazel Hazelton 1Gwatt and for 48 hours.
That should turn you into a straight column of smoke, alright. :)
think mike pence would like this?
The tribe, Ookie Ookie, would make poisonous darts after the White man left them a cordless drill.
Thanks JohnnyQ90. Now I'm going to read all the comments that show just how stupid these genius's think your trick is. Today you have to write out hundreds of disclaimers just so people don't get to try to come in and "whip it out". (sorry so crude).
nice job.
I don't think the people talking about annealing really understand what it's doing and how it won't help that much.
Nice Trick!
Nice hardstyle tho
It's a shame this trick damages the structural integrity of the wire.
проволоке после этого пиздец. и не поможет никакой отжиг. Чтобы уплотнить то что растрескалось надо будет делать горячую прокатку...
Кстати, знаю способ гораздо проще, и проволока после этого как новая. Даже два способа.
1. если проволока длинная - протянуть проволоку несколько раз через изгибающий канал змейкой, да хоть между гвоздями.
2. если проволока короткая - прокатать отрезок проволоки между досками или между металлическими пластинами
Why would I wanna do that?
shoulda fired up the nitro drill :D
Bad Johnny! No, no, no. Sit in the corner. Completely ruined it.
Now put your pocket in the drill and straighten it and tell me what went wrong.
try that with Nitinol then heat it up
Look like vaping coils stuff
Cool!
Are you sure you don't weaken it!?
That's fine if it to be used straight, but now it is extremely brittle
make a biger metal rope
I guess it turns a wire into a rod. I will not be as flexible as before tho
what you do is twist the thread, not straighten it.
I did this in school
We get it, you vape! Jk vape coil builders swear by this method.
+VanDodger No I don't actually haha
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Pretend it's your you know what and just yank it
It workhadens the material too much, its way better to just clamp it in the vise and give it a quick pull with a pair of pliers
but it'll make the wire becoming spiral shape😅
Tried it. All it did was break the wire.
! parkside tools haha
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My wire broke.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
Проволока разве хрупкой не становится после такой операции?
I can do that with my hands
good for you
shit noise
mmm not exactly smooth
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if you chuck a screwgun like that you are slow and inefficient and obviously a hack lmao no where near a handy man or a smart individual