The Ableton Push 3 Experience With Phemto In The Studio

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  • @fridmanator
    @fridmanator 11 місяців тому +6

    For pumping effect you can use auto pan and set it to mono, reverse saw on 1/4 notes and play with the shape.

  • @LunchBandit
    @LunchBandit Рік тому +57

    I bought the controller version for $1000 and a used macbook air M1 for $700 so I saved $300 from the $2000 stand alone version and it's more powerful, almost as portable, and you get a decent size screen with the ability to watch P----hub during your live sets.

    • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
      @HelicopterRidesForCommunists Рік тому +1

      Thats whats up. I suggested for someone to get one of those ROG Ally or Steam Decks with the P3.

    • @pietruh13pl
      @pietruh13pl Рік тому

      Rog ally and push 3 sounds like great idea

    • @DG-ss1gc
      @DG-ss1gc Рік тому

      Pick up a 15inc “portable touchscreen usb c monitor “ use it with the zoom accessibly function and a Magic Trackpad . It’s a great setup.

    • @nytcrawlr
      @nytcrawlr Рік тому +1

      Push 3 and Legion Go - pop the controllers off the side of the Go and you have an 8.8 inch tablet running Ableton Live.

    • @LunchBandit
      @LunchBandit 11 місяців тому

      @@nytcrawlr Does the touch screen work with ableton? Touch screen didn't work when I attempted to do something similar with an iPad as a second screen.

  •  Рік тому +3

    great ! comment @1h38min : you can go soustracive by hitting del + pad you want to delete events ( becareful if you hit it twice you remove the simpler...)

  • @bloopbleepnothinghere
    @bloopbleepnothinghere Рік тому +2

    So glad some people are seeing how amazing this device is, and understand the value. All those complaints of it being $2k are underestimating how versatile it is, and how many problems this thing solves. I am sure I will get the itch for some new equipment at some point, but man it's going to be difficult to justify anything else. I can get close enough to any sound I can dream up. Yeah the FM implementation isn't quite as sweet as a Digitone, but I'd give that up for having an infinite sound pallet in one box with no cables, and a battery. What's more, is if anyone had the skill (hello Ess @Fors) Digitone style racks and instruments are all possible.

  • @el_dani
    @el_dani Рік тому +3

    This is probably the device of the decade. Maybe you could get us a update of the important topics, now 6 months after release: inclusion of more options for standalone operation (follow actions, Midi mapping, other small (?) leftovers) and then the topic of syncronisation with external hardware gear

  • @nooksimpletouch9606
    @nooksimpletouch9606 Рік тому +5

    Great as always! Would like to see Maschine+ video in such format from you🙃

  • @MrJohnHoppa
    @MrJohnHoppa 11 місяців тому +1

    Not only Substracting but also adding slices in simpler or notes in Clip view by pressing some button is really necessary for it to be somehow functional.

  • @RJ_Eckie
    @RJ_Eckie Рік тому +5

    I freakin love these duo streams! This one was super useful as I have a Push 3. And I’m not great at drums and sampling so this was great!
    I hope you get a lot of practice so this can turn into a Push 3 channel a little bit 😏😏

  • @corneliousism
    @corneliousism 11 місяців тому +1

    Plus one for adding and external screen for standalone, I’m sure this could be done with a basic app on iOS or android, opening up complete utilisation suite with even more intuitive touch gestures. Call it ‘Pull’ for push standalone!

    • @Kaje05
      @Kaje05 11 місяців тому

      Haha, pretty much sounds like you want controller mode? 😂

  • @AqeelAadam
    @AqeelAadam Рік тому +3

    Ah man I missed this video! A very kind friend sent it over to me. Thanks for using and digging the samples, and y’all nailed the name pronunciation too! 😂

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому

      Nothing but love!

  • @Ponchy
    @Ponchy 11 місяців тому +1

    great stream! Love all the Elektron comparisons. I'm definitely gonna be upgrading my Push 2 soon.

  • @glivingston2278
    @glivingston2278 Рік тому +2

    Great tutorial over all. Really loving that they fixed the sample selection issue with the drum rack. @ 1:09:06 you guys say that you found a bug but I noted that you had an automation dot on the transpose in the simpler. When you changed the slot pitch it did transpose the sample but that transpose automation date was still there. I coudl be wrong. I hope I am because automating the slot pitch would be great. Curious if you concur. Thanks for the great content.

    • @phemtosound
      @phemtosound Рік тому +1

      There are two transpose params, we had automated one on simpler but when we p locked the one on the drum rack slot, it didn't show the same indicator

  • @logiebearsb
    @logiebearsb 11 місяців тому +1

    Super video, thanks guys! Loving my Push3.

  • @EZBOT_
    @EZBOT_  Рік тому +1

    That camera on Jordan's face in the intro is a thing of beauty. Don't forget to subscribe and join the discord! discord.gg/KUSBH9h
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  • @andrewhaas5878
    @andrewhaas5878 Рік тому +2

    Nice deep dive, this answered most of the concerns I've had about the P3!

  • @Tapepusher
    @Tapepusher Рік тому +3

    1:47:24 with monitoring set to In/Auto the latency is recorded as well, it records what you hear, latency included. “Off” is most accurate with no latency (set up Delay Error Compensation to make it work), you just monitor directly with an interface. Ableton’s help page is written a bit oddly on it.
    Anyway, cool stream, my impression of the standalone is that its not yet standalone yet lol, still missing essential features and I’d say it’s seriously challenging for Ableton to include them all.

    • @noahsiekmann4275
      @noahsiekmann4275 Рік тому

      Absolutely correct about monitor in/auto. Thanks for mentioning this.

    • @phemtosound
      @phemtosound Рік тому

      Double checked when in standalone mode and yup, you are totally correct about monitoring modes. Forgot I had "Delay Compensation" and "Reduced Latency when Monitoring" turned on, thank you for the clarification!

    • @Tapepusher
      @Tapepusher Рік тому

      ok, cool! You've some unreal beats on your channel. I particularly like this modular jam, if ppl are looking for a glitch beat to chill to: ua-cam.com/video/SGOXAigzkMg/v-deo.htmlsi=03Lakl8Hfx9mCDDM@@phemtosound

  • @MrJohnHoppa
    @MrJohnHoppa 11 місяців тому +1

    Also micro timing the steps with the arrow buttons directly would be great 👍🏼 😊

  • @jamesaita
    @jamesaita 9 місяців тому

    This was great guys. Watched the whole thing start to finish. Would love for someone to post making an entire multi-song live set with Push 3 Standalone to see how it's done. You said a creator did that for a show you had recently. Would love to see that process.

  • @wmextra
    @wmextra Рік тому +1

    I love Push 3 Thanks guys, Happy Friday! sometimes I feel like I betrayed Push when I sold Push 2, but When I saw that Push 3 was available on my email I immediately ordered stand-alone was the only option literally in 3 days it arrived.

  • @Sinnersainthuman
    @Sinnersainthuman Рік тому +3

    Hi Jordan and Matthew! Coffee is brewing and I just hit play 💚

  •  Рік тому +1

    comment about ratchets : best way to make ractchets is live, with repeat fct, with loop selector you can focus on the part of the loop where you want to add some. just record , listen, undo if necessary.
    1 more tip : I Highly recommend for beat construction to use the loop selector and repeat fct, start with 1/4 for kick and snare, so you don't even need the metronome ( I hate its sound, never use it) , move to 1/8 for more rythm and then higher rates for highhats and ratchets , fill some bars with various loops, then play with the loops you made to make a performance, add some non recorded events for variation if you wish. Now lets make the magic happens : go to nex clip, hit capture... and here you go, you can have a very long performance recorded (64 bars I think) as a clip. you can even have mute and automations recorded. Best thing with that : you don't even need to know how to fingerdrum to end with a really "human" performance ( you can use recorded groove from you favourite drummer to make it sound more human)

  • @billpayer3745
    @billpayer3745 Місяць тому

    As someone that uses sidechain a lot. I could never understand why Ableton didn’t make all their devices, that have a sidechain input, have the ability to have them selectable on Push.
    This goes back to Push 2 days, but it’s obviously much more keenly felt on standalone. I’m not even sure that this has been addressed in 12.1.

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  29 днів тому

      Bitwig did! I see your point

  • @emilianoibarra3537
    @emilianoibarra3537 7 місяців тому

    on session view can you have a track loaded with an instrument/device/synth and have the clips below being the same instrument/device/synth but with different parameters? so it makes a different sound, and sequence the midi notes with the oxi one

  • @raytbrown2
    @raytbrown2 Рік тому +3

    Wow. 25min in and I know it's not for me; as I still don't know what it does. Thank you!

    • @KevKlopper
      @KevKlopper Рік тому +2

      Yeah same, I really want to want it. But it's just an extension (or replacement) of the computer that makes the workflow (mostly) more clunky imo

  • @cyberspacer
    @cyberspacer Рік тому +1

    "Unlimited synthesizers!" YES, we can't settle for less :) Thanks for an excellent walkthrough!

  • @illegalgiant_
    @illegalgiant_ Рік тому +2

    feel like the 'woops im in the wrong scale' at 2:30:00~ sums up the experience pretty well. when everything is jiving and recording loops, all is well. have to change a couple notes you already played? its gonna be rough. on a laptop it takes mere seconds. on push3 its just not fluid yet.

    • @bloopbleepnothinghere
      @bloopbleepnothinghere Рік тому

      You can actually change the note like he was trying to do. You have to be in the clip view, as they were, and then either hit the "edit" button, or click the jog wheel. In this screen you can now use the jog wheel to select individual notes (one or many) and then you can edit many of their attributes, including the note value. Not as quick as the laptop but it's as easy as an Elektron box.

    • @illegalgiant_
      @illegalgiant_ Рік тому

      @@bloopbleepnothinghere We can agree to disagree. I tried to love this thing but nothing ever felt fluid like an elektron machine

    • @bloopbleepnothinghere
      @bloopbleepnothinghere Рік тому

      @@illegalgiant_ I wasn't at all trying to convince you that the Push is for you. I was simply trying to communicate that note changes are possible and pretty easy.

  • @JamesBermingham
    @JamesBermingham Рік тому +1

    Do you think an Arrangement Mode will ever be available on Push or via an App something like Note? Something like the way Elektron rolled it out on their boxes. ?? 🤞

    • @corneliousism
      @corneliousism 11 місяців тому

      I hope they do, having second screen to move things about would be great, call it ‘Pull’ it would make it absolutely complete and open up the full functionality of the devices as well as easier editing and arranging.

    • @Kaje05
      @Kaje05 11 місяців тому

      Yes, this already available! Just connect your computer and you get full arranger mode in Ableton.

  • @Geekraver
    @Geekraver Рік тому +1

    I'll wait for the Force 2. But I'd love to see a video of adding a battery to the Digitakt.

  • @ryanhursh6322
    @ryanhursh6322 Рік тому

    Great video! Wow… lots of info. Apologies if this was covered somewhere and I missed it.
    I come from a DAWless, Elektron background and just got Ableton… and sort of waiting for a Push 3 to really dig in because I’m really not into the computer screen and mouse.
    I’m thinking of a Push 3 in combination with a Novation Launchkey 3, which is also supposed to be set up for Ableton. Would that make sense or is that just overkill and duplicating the controls? Would it be better to connect the Launchkey to the Push 3 or just go straight to the computer?

    • @wakinglife7065
      @wakinglife7065 10 місяців тому

      I haven’t tried it yet but I use it Novation launch/ key mkiii for Ableton and MPC.. it doesn’t double up controls but it’s useful for mixing and adding keys to pads. But I think the Akai Mini Plus would be better with its joystick and fully assignable cc knobs etc. it has its own sequencer as well and is fully class compliant with 5 din midi in and out. The push 3 has the 1/8? Inch version so you need an adapter like boss. But I could be totally wrong. I’m getting a push 3 soon aswell as mini plus so I’ll do some experimenting and get back to you

  • @sinewaymusic
    @sinewaymusic Рік тому

    Very informative video! One thing you said you'd cover but didn't quite cover in the end: can this be used for producing a full track with preprogrammed automation for things like the intro, break, buildup, drop etc? I understand the concept of clips and it seems the Push is meant for live performances, but could you make copies of clips and eg create "scenes" where one longer scene of say 16 bars is the intro, and you then add automation over that full length to eg open up a filter? And then basically stack a bunch of scenes on the clip layout so you can play back a finished song by progressing scenes one by one? I'm more of a producer kind of guy, I don't stand and perform in front of an audience or anything, so to me it's about being able to basically get a much more flexible and better sounding MPC - not a device to perform on live but to make full songs on. Thanks!

  • @calderwood9641
    @calderwood9641 11 місяців тому +3

    Time for a part 2 stream with Jordo

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  11 місяців тому +2

      haha, this will definitely happen

  • @medenine4828
    @medenine4828 Рік тому +2

    I’ve been waiting patiently for this - awesome! We have such similar tastes in gear and music. What is the purpose of routing to the audio tracks for you - is it mostly for how you interact with the midi fighter? (I didn’t know you could map non-native controllers yet, I have launchpad and launch control xl connected).

  • @podcastharry
    @podcastharry 5 місяців тому

    Hey Matthew, I'm curious after watching a bunch of your Digi 2 videos - I get that you're an Elektron guy (me too), but why has Push 3 not made it's way into your workflow in a meaningful way? Just seems so powerful in comparison to the grooveboxes (at least at a high level; I've not touched one yet!).

  • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
    @HelicopterRidesForCommunists Рік тому +4

    Man he sounds like me - 10 years of Reason then Push 2 to Live to hardware gear and Elektron. Ive been watching this channel since around February of this year and even back then I was praising the Push 2/ Live hybrid setup with Elektron devices. So as Ive said before its nice to see someone as elite as EZ confirming it.

    • @phemtosound
      @phemtosound Рік тому +1

      A fellow Reasoner! An individual of culture I see 🙂❤

    • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
      @HelicopterRidesForCommunists Рік тому +1

      @@phemtosound Since I got a cracked version of Reason 3! Back when they were adamant that they would never implement VSTs - and now look at Reason it basically IS a VST.

    • @phemtosound
      @phemtosound Рік тому +1

      @@HelicopterRidesForCommunists ngl, I use it as a vst in Ableton ALL THE TIME. It's the best of both worlds!

    • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
      @HelicopterRidesForCommunists Рік тому

      @@phemtosound I still prefer the arrangement view in Reason over Live. Theres pros/cons, and one of the biggest pros for Reason imo is the built in implementation of pitch and drift correction of audio. Sure you can go and use Melodymne which is more powerful, but Reason's is built right into the audio editor and is much more efficient and easy to use while still providing solid results.

    • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
      @HelicopterRidesForCommunists Рік тому

      @@phemtosoundCame back to finish watching this stream and got to the part where you said you were a software developer. One more thing we have in common! Im graduating with my Computer Engineering degree soon. My hope is that between my ability to code and my knowledge of music production/ performance that I’ll be able to nab up a job in the industry. I live near the Audio Technica HQ, so they are number 1 on the list at the moment.

  • @FrankvonWelt
    @FrankvonWelt Рік тому +1

    Hey @EZBOT, thanks for this great video. You guys mentioned the (missing) midi clock input feature. Are you using a beta version? My latest stand alone push still only works as slave in Ableton link mode? Greetings from Germany. Frank

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому +1

      We mentioned that is now has it :)

    • @phemtosound
      @phemtosound Рік тому

      On the latest beta, make sure in your midi settings under the Input section that Ableton Push 3 External Port is set to Track and Sync. Midi clock in should work after that! If link is on, midi clock in might not work, I haven't tested what takes priority in that scenario

  • @mdeerocks6792
    @mdeerocks6792 Рік тому

    You don't need a DC coupled ADAT device to control Eurorack from Push 3. Push 3 has CV outputs in the back. RTM :)

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому +1

      but not enough of em! :)

    • @phemtosound
      @phemtosound Рік тому

      Expression pedal jacks work but the OPTX giving us 8 ins and 8 outs is a far better experience imo!

    • @mdeerocks6792
      @mdeerocks6792 Рік тому

      @@EZBOT_ True

  • @Nick-kb6jd
    @Nick-kb6jd 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey, can I ask, Does the non-standalone have the adat functionality?
    Could you use the stadalone with overbridge?

  • @JamesBermingham
    @JamesBermingham Рік тому

    10:51 In stand alone? Er how? Please explain 🙏
    I know Shift+ Record in controller mode records to the arranger. But in stand alone it doesn’t. What’s the button press procedure on P3 stand alone for this?

  • @hiparik1
    @hiparik1 9 місяців тому

    And what about crossfader ? How to switch between tracks ?

  • @tawfeeqm
    @tawfeeqm 6 місяців тому

    Would love to see you do more push3 tutorials pretty please

  • @rolobotoman
    @rolobotoman 10 місяців тому

    If you could plug a keyboard a mouse and a screen, it would be dope. Joking, not joking 🤷‍♀ Something like push not stand alone and a small footprint pc/hybrid laptop?
    Great down to earth video, there's so much noise out there.

  • @eento06
    @eento06 8 місяців тому

    That's wrong, channel in In mode will bring latency & channel in Off mode will ensure no lantency is added during the recording, but the sound will not be monitored. When In mode, the internal is delaying the full project transport based on the biggest estimated channel's lantency. Thisi mechanism is called PDC, and this is the biggest nightmare of Ableton because it's not accurate (unfortunately).

  • @Slubberdegullion14
    @Slubberdegullion14 Рік тому +1

    Was the “true true” a Tim Robinson quote?

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому +1

      It’s a nude egg that I won!

  • @Rollur1234
    @Rollur1234 Рік тому

    I am working on a fun probability beat. Very intuitive!! Its like I hqve never made a beat before.

  • @designerfuzzi
    @designerfuzzi Рік тому

    45:00 another LFO test its aliasing solution, does it actually reach max and min in every spin or does it interpolate and therefore antialias the value? :)

  • @szymonsochacki3353
    @szymonsochacki3353 Рік тому

    Probably noone will answer, but what are the drum samples used here? They are sick :D

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому

      I think they are stock drums from Ableton Suite

  • @ryanhursh6322
    @ryanhursh6322 Рік тому +1

    No snap to zero crossing in Simpler?? Seems like a no brainer.

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому

      Hoping that gets addressed!

  • @IgnacioChavez
    @IgnacioChavez Рік тому +2

    Can't believe I watched the whole thing :D

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому

      You get a gold star! ⭐️ thanks for watching 😍

  • @SergeyCoder
    @SergeyCoder 9 місяців тому

    Cool. Thank you. I’d better stay with digitakt & syntakt 😄

  • @billpayer3745
    @billpayer3745 7 місяців тому

    Feels very much like I need to design a t-shirt with "I am the LFO" on it.

  • @tomgleason5546
    @tomgleason5546 10 місяців тому

    If the standalone is a computer, why no ability to hook up a monitor and keyboard?

  • @AlecKinch
    @AlecKinch 2 місяці тому

    Anyone re watching this v12.1 fixes a TON of the workflow issues they talk about.
    :)

  • @notaspectator
    @notaspectator 11 місяців тому

    love it

  • @Rollur1234
    @Rollur1234 Рік тому +1

    SMOOOOOOTH!!

  • @WesWookBeats
    @WesWookBeats Рік тому

    7:30 so smooth

  • @TheMattyNation
    @TheMattyNation Рік тому

    So we have a berserk fan here

  • @SamuMusical-Aprendatocar
    @SamuMusical-Aprendatocar 11 місяців тому +1

    To expensive! I stay with my Akai Force

  • @Alexandermhinton
    @Alexandermhinton Рік тому +1

    alright alright alright

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому

      alright alright alright alright

  • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
    @HelicopterRidesForCommunists Рік тому +1

    That moment when you test to see if you can hold multiple notes and p lock them - absolutely adorable lmfao

  • @espacemaxim
    @espacemaxim 4 місяці тому

    Nao?

  • @iqnill
    @iqnill Рік тому

    Same genes plus, seemingly, 3 million years of evolution :)

  • @bigjayrillah3508
    @bigjayrillah3508 8 місяців тому

    bitwig will chase the notes if you set it up to

  • @RevIsnot
    @RevIsnot 11 місяців тому

    i still dont really get why you would get one! doesnt translate well for performance, a nerfed DAW standalone. Less mouse clicks required for same workflows.

  • @donnydarko7624
    @donnydarko7624 11 місяців тому

    The price difference between the one without and the one with the CPU and RAM in it is pretty outrageous considering they can't give 11th gen Intel processors away, and it's an i3. Thenwhen you consider how cheap ram is currently as well. Intel sells the nuc that it's in the processing unit for the push for $200.
    Also go listen to some reaktor ensembles on maschine+ standalone and tell me they don't sound almoat analog

  • @AcidTechnoMan5000
    @AcidTechnoMan5000 10 місяців тому

    Grugg Rugg

  • @cesarsbeats
    @cesarsbeats Рік тому +1

    I AM THE LFO 😂

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому

      I AM!

    • @RobotSnake
      @RobotSnake Рік тому

      The first standalone device with infinite LFOs.

  • @Mr.Thermistor7228
    @Mr.Thermistor7228 4 місяці тому

    this was so hard to follow, guy explaining everything just went into super specific tasks not really the general idea

  • @TK-hz4ss
    @TK-hz4ss 10 місяців тому

    I still think the Force is better

  • @oguzisk9204
    @oguzisk9204 9 місяців тому

    Phemto is such a fem

  • @dang48207
    @dang48207 Місяць тому

    6 minutes in and I’m done you guys are a couple chatty females

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Місяць тому

      Chatty females? I wonder what all the female Push 3 users would think of that dumb ass comment. We are great friends, this is what friends do when they hang out.. they talk.

    • @dang48207
      @dang48207 Місяць тому

      @@EZBOT_ 🤡🤡

  • @candyflip6345
    @candyflip6345 Рік тому

    Learn how to play this instrument before you start complaining about missing features and things you wish. This instrument is made for artist, no matter what you do or how you play this instrument it will always sound like a "push" or have that "push" sound. Its not about what it cant do, its about what YOU can do.

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_  Рік тому +2

      Don’t think anyone’s complaining here, we love the push 3.

    • @phemtosound
      @phemtosound Рік тому +2

      Nothing but love for the push, it's been my main writing tool for almost 5 years now!

    • @ethermod307
      @ethermod307 Рік тому

      @@EZBOT_ nah it's a box in a box ;)

    • @mdeerocks6792
      @mdeerocks6792 Рік тому +1

      I can make it sound like any hardware synth I own just by connecting the synth via MIDI. Push 3 is a controller, not an instrument.

    • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
      @HelicopterRidesForCommunists Рік тому

      @@mdeerocks6792Its definitely both and more. Not sure how you could possibly say its not an instrument when it has one of the best and most expressive MPE functionality on the market.