because no new chip in this summer, just only "some" Renoir paper launch (but that is a zen2 product to), the problem with that still not available (yet) this is a reason, have some time for "revisit some old tech".. But only a month passed, how i upgraded my system from a FX8320 to a Xeon 2678v3 (i know not new product, but this was a "cheap" upgrade).
@@kravenfoxbodies2479 I just retired an e6410 (or thereabouts). I think my next oldest would be an x2 6000 or somethink around those lines. They're both dedicated boxes so they'll get packed up in storage in case the new primary fails.
Great. I was just watching another Steve's AMD Phenom revisit and here comes another juicy CPU vid by short hair Steve. xD Thanks for these videos, Steves. Here before YT's notification. Btw, "[Music] welcome back to harvard unboxed"
Oh yeah! It made mainstream top of the line CPUs more than double in price to $750. Can't believe how blessed I feel as a consumer. Eager to get a 4950X for a cool $1000
@@dpokor Yeah, but what WAS the mainstream top of the line CPU? It was the 7700K and now, 3 generations later what was the best of the best is compared to bottom of the line(yeah, there's Athlon but that one is like 40-50$). You went from 4/8 to 16/32, and also, 3950x is not even aimed at mainstream consumer. But hey, everyone has a right to have an opinion, no matter how stupid it is
@@HD-dp1pr I had the video on in the background but I'm pretty sure he did overclock the fsb (the phenom video, I didn't watch the FX). Not sure which video you're referring to because of this comment thread
@@rossharper1983 no he actually didn't overclock the north bridge nor fsb. He just overclocked it via multiplier and called it a day. U can check for ur self. This for his fx video not the phenom
Speaking as someone who uses his PC parts for 10+ years, these comparisons with legacy hardware are very welcome - thank you! (That said, the Phenom II x4 in my backup rig does get a bit long in the tooth now...)
Great video always nice to see old hardware in action. My step son has a FX 8370 setup that he got used for really cheap about 3 years ago. He got me to set it up for him and I tweaked it to 4.6GHz with 2200MHz DDR3 and installed a RX 580 8GB card. What surprised me was some of the results you got here with games like Tomb Raider & far cry new dawn. I know he played both of those games and since he locks his refresh at 60Hz those games were smooth on this setup. I think the only game he had issues with that I know of is Assassins Creed OD I remember him saying it would dip to mid 50's in heavy action areas such as crowded towns. But lets faced it Assassins creed OD and the one before it were very badly optimized games.
it's already pushed to the limit by games like Tomb Raider and others, and when next-gen consoles come out and 1-2x years pass pretty much an r7 2700x will be the new minimum standard, with the 3700x being optimal and whatever newer comes out being ideal.
well yeah, considering that the fx 8320 was 140$ since early 2014, for the time it was awesome, the fx 6300 was 90$ since 2013. At the time for 90$ you couldn't even get an i3.
@@rattlehead999 I think AMD went at a net loss selling at that price, but yeah, you're right. For the time it was a good deal, especially for productivity workloads.
@@miniweeddeerz1820 he compares the 3600 in the next sentence, saying it is 189% higher, which also doesn't make sense. I'm guessing the FX was actually 45fps and they made a mistake and plotted 65? Just a guess
I'd be curious to see how this compares to a 2500K in modern titles. Does the quasi-SMT on the FX chip help, where the lack of hyper-threading holds back the i5? 1% lows could be interesting 🤔
2600K results will be far more interesting, I'd happily bet there are far more of them remaining in the wild, given 4c/8t is still actually passable unlike 4c/4t.
do a search on hardware unboxed and gamers nexus they both have done it a few times with the 2500K & 2600K. hardware unboxed even has the 'Is It Worth the Upgrade? Ryzen 3 vs. Core i5-2500K vs. FX-8370' video just for you
@@liaminwales well things can changed after time pasts remember how the 7600k was beating the ryzen 5 1600 well now it's turned to ryzens favour and the 1600 now beats the 7600k in games
@@HD-dp1pr gamers nexus did a video '10 Years of Intel CPUs Benchmarked: i7-930, 2600K, 4790K, & Everything Since (2020)' so it's covered fairly well on both channels and they do good work you can trust. i relay dont like the 7600K v Ryzen 1600, why not compare a Ryzen 3 2300x v i7 8700K. it's simpler to compare CPU's by core count than market segmentation, if you do that you falling in to marketing. CPU's dont get faster or slower with time what changes is the software, a CPU with more cores can scale past a faster CPU with less cores but it will depend on the software. if a user can understand a bit about hardware and software they will be better off. your much better off if you understand how software scaling works. but by trying to confuse the topic comparing a 4c cpu with a 6c/12t cpu without relay talking about the complexity of software rubs me wrong. im not taking a brand side, you can make the same comparison with a Ryzen 3 2300X v Ryzen 5 2600 and it will rub me wrong and most people will point out 'hay one has more cores' so why can anyone think it's fair to do when comparing brands?
@@ComputerProfessor Fx 8320 came out in 2012. Sandy Bridge was by that point out for over a year and half. At one point you could have gotten a 2500k on sale for $190 while the 8320 was going for $170. And that THING was PROPER FUTUREPROOF
@@mesicek7 You had to pay more for the motherboard to overcock the i5 2500k and I never recall it being on sale for $190 during that time. The gigabyte ga-78lmt-usb3 was a $60 that could overclock the fx-8320 to about 4.3-4.4ghz. We're also comparing at that time last-gen prices to at that time current gen. Here are some benchmarks at the base cock vs base cock. No overcock :) www.computerbase.de/2017-03/amd-ryzen-1800x-1700x-1700-test/4/#diagramm-battlefield-1-dx12-multiplayer-fps
@@ComputerProfessor The OC on the FX cpu's does absolutely nothing. These cpu's were complete wank for gaming. web.archive.org/web/20121110113602/www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=StoreIM&Depa=1&Category=34 8350 that was AMD's flagship cost the same as the brand new ivy bridge 3570k - the 3570k completely demolished it in gaming. www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5 ua-cam.com/video/c_Gcg-tFfu0/v-deo.html It's dogshite and it seems some people still wank over it edit: computer base used slower ram on the sandy bridge cpu ua-cam.com/video/_jiXkrRoD4w/v-deo.html
Sitting here with a 2020 silicon 3600 @ 4.40 GHz, and developing a smile that's getting bigger as the graphs come. 😂 I was looking at the 8370 back in 2014, but opted to stay on FM2+ with a 6600K, and then 7890K, up until literally last week when I made the switch to AM4. So happy.
Oh, I'd love to also see a comparison between phenom/buldozer/ryzen at the same clock speed and core count, have't seen one of those in a while. Praying the best Steve provides.
A few months ago I repurposed an old FX-8350 home server into a gaming machine for my son. New case, new 1TB ssd, new 1650 super, and keeping the 32gb ddr3. He loves it. He's just doing 1080p at 60hz on his display, and this setup hits that easily at high settings in everything he runs. Probably going to use the FX processor for a couple more years before we rebuild his machine with something newer.
For the "future proof" test, let's see how the price equivalent system from 2013 did. FX8350 o/c vs i3-2120 or i5-2400 (non-k, no o/c). That was the price-to-performance choice. The i5-2500K and i7-2600K were a massive price jump. Even then, the FX8350 can nearly keep up with those in more modern titles (where multithreading does something.)
Still using an FX 8350 and a GTX 970. I feel like an old timer, but it has worked well for me over the years. Now I'm getting back into pc gaming, got an x570 and a 3700x on the way.
Same complaint with long hair Steve's video, I'd like to have seen Ivy Bridge i3 and i5 compared. Far Cry New Dawn runs the same on my Ivy Bridge. I guarantee the i5 and i3 didn't fair as well. Otherwise, great work as always. Strangely enough I think upside down Steve may have given the FX a fairer closing comment than long hair Steve. No one expected the FX to be useful in 2020, however, we did expect it to outlast the i3 that was often recomended over it. Those couple of years where the i3 was faster only matters if you exclusively game. The FX beat Ivy Bridge in work related apps, even held it's own against Haswell and above. It's once AVX2 became a more common thing around 2015 where Intel started to walk off and leave the FX, which it left it's older chips as well.
I came from an FX-8350 system. I upgraded to a Ryzen 1700X while keeping the same GPU and other components, when ryzen first launched, because I didn’t have money for an entirely new system. then upgraded to a more recent GPU later on, and then nvme. And so on. So glad I did. Ryzen was a great upgrade path for me.
First gen ryzen is still very decent. Ofc zen2 is a huge jump from it but it provides fairly good gaming performance, you have 8 cores, and with a reasonable GPU like a 1660 super/ 2060 or below it's a nice system.
LOVE to see GPU scaling data as it is so crucial to see how an upgrade be it CPU or GPU will affect gaming performance. So many 'over GPU' their system and wonder why they are not seeing similar results to the GPU reviews. Thanks for all the hard work as always Steve!
I'm envious of any FX user that has recently upgraded - to see your minimum frames double or triple has got to feel good! I'm really looking forward to your revisit of the 2500K. I have a 3570K OC right now and I am hoping for large gains.
i went from my old FX-8350 to a R5 3600.... its like night and day difference. that being said, when i got the 8350 years ago, i got it for super cheap and it did what i needed it to. barely. once i upgraded, i was amazed.
upgraded to my ryzen 7 1700 + wraith prism + gigabyte x370 gaming 5 for $250AUD back in Feb 2020 before the crazy inflation - so happy to see this video! OC'd at 3.6 and will happily sit on this for the next few years :D
Went from FX 8370 to Ryzen 3600 at the beginning of this year and yeah it was a massive upgrade. Still, to its credit, in the 3 years that I have owned the FX 8370 processor, I had 0 stability issues with it.
And here I was, until about one year ago, still rocking an FX4130 on my living room PC. It even had stuttering issues when running rocket league in split-screen mode. ROCKET LEAGUE. Now it has been replaced with a Ryzen 2600 and it's all good :)
I have a friend with the 4130, he still uses it today. Funnily enough it was refurbished from Microcenter for $39. It still plays all the games he likes, even though it's a low end CPU.
Nice Video. It's Interesting to see how well the FX-Series still performs today. I wonder how much better the FX-9590 would of done in place of the FX-8370. I had paired a MSI RX - 580 Gaming X 8gb with my FX-9590 , I had 32 - gb of 1866 mhz ram , maybe faster ram would of let my pc run better overall but even at 1866 mhz it was running nicely. I feel the Pairing of an RX-580 8gb or maybe the RX-590 8gb would be the Optimum performance to minimize CPU and GPU bottlenecking. The results do show that the FX-Series still would be worth running today if you could get a system for a good price. I would of liked to know how much ram was used for the FX System - if it wasn't 32 gb total , would having 32 gb made a significant difference. Having a well balanced system is the ideal setup. If the test's were done using say the RX - 590 8gb and the GTX - 1060 6b as the GPU's for all of the systems. I am a little disappointed that no AMD Gpu was used in the tests.
I mean even with such a slow gpu, you'll probably see slowdowns and drops in framerate, not to mention the poor windows experience you'll have with it.
Nice, this is more relevant than some may think. I know someone who uses a FX system for art and isn't sure if a 3600 or 3700X is needed to feel a improvement. I told him a 51€ 1200AF should be faster, because let's face it, much software these days is just heavy on memcopy. This video nicely gives a idea where things stand in relation.
I still have my FX 8350, on another PC with a GTX 460. After seeing this it's incredible how bad It aged, even the slowest Turing GPU is enough to see it's full performance.
Soo then.. "i told you so?" My 8350 also ended its life powering a geforce 1060. Upgraded out of it, to a 1080ti with ryzen 1700x. I still keep the 8350 around as a web surfing and casual game machine. By the way, The court case against the fx series processors was Garbage. No where does it say a "Core" has to have a floating point unit. I built computers, 386 and 486 based systems, that did not have math-coprocessors. they were still considered Single Core cpu's even without a Floating point unit. the Fx chips had 8 logic units, and 4 math. just because Intel managed to convince a judge that a FPU is needed with every ALU to be a "Core" doesnt make it right. by that logic, 386's and 486's were zero core cpu's.
It's garbage that AMD initially went from using modules/cores in marketing to just cores...As tech Jesus (paraphrasing) put it, they acted like they had the stated cores in some workloads, half what was stated in others. Everything before acted like it had the stated number of cores in all workloads. Even the preceding Phenom II. Which is why the FX series was a disaster.
@@dabombinablemi6188 fully agreed it was a disaster, just mentioning that the criteria that they (the court prosicuter) tried to define "cores" with, doesnt hold water.
What about other workloads? I used the FX 8350 for Virtual Machines. It did well, but I don't know how it compared to an Intel of the same pricepoint (processor and mainboard).
As an FX8300 owner, thanks for this video haha I JUST bought a Ryzen 5 1600 AF kit (I've watched some benchmark videos and its performance is about the same as the 3 3300X, but it was much cheaper) so let's hope my performance will get much better Though my video card is just a GTX 960 4GB and I cannot afford a better one so here's hoping haha
Great comparison Steve! Would love to see performance of some of the X58 platform CPUS with modern GPU'S against this too. I've got an old X58 platform with a 6 core X5660 collecting dust that a friend could use. This platform also goes for a fortune on the used market for some reason compared to what you can get brand new, and people still buy them up.
Hmmm, let's see here... I got my FX-8350 at launch for $195, paired it with 16gb (2 sticks of 8gb in dual channel) of DDR3 CAS-10 1866. It went through a GTX 460 1gb, R9 270X 2gb, and currently sitting at an RX 580 8gb Saphire Nitro+, while undervalued and stable at 4.2ghz all core clock. I've managed to run every single game at 1080p/1440p high/max settings for the last 8 years with 3 different generations worth of mid ranged GPUs thrown at my rig. I'd say the FX-8350 proved everyone wrong and turned into a highly respectable value king, and the extra cores paid off in a variety of newer games at the $195 MSRP, despite its lower IPC. Most of us have got our moneys worth and can wait it out for a DDR5 based 4th/5th gen Ryzen rig and stretch our money further. Jokes on everyone who jumped ship to 1st gen Ryzen or 7th gen intel.
Think of it this way: FX was cheaper than 2500k and it still provides playable (60 fps or more) in a lot of titles. For people who don't have any money but found themselves with FX8320E or something along those lines (parents' PC or a PC from older brother that was assembled on the cheap back in 2013). 1650S is a good GPU. You have your 8320E, you get a used 1050ti or something and you're good to go while you're saving up cash for the new platform.
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 But it is. When locked new i5's were at least 8000 rubles, unlocked new 8320E's were 4500 rubles. There are a lot of things that need to be known about FX CPU to make it decent, but it's a CPU that does CPU things and it does them somewhat decently, even stock. The second PC in our home has 4350 instead of a CPU, and it's good enough to run party games and stuff. Sure a used i5 might be better, but used i5 with motherboard AND ram would cost me at least 8000 rubles, at which point i'm better off buying a new Ryzen 1200. Used FX4350, 8 Gb of ram and mobo cost me 4000 rubles.
@@Erenzilable Launch price of 8350 - 195$ Launch price of the much faster i5 2500k - 220$. 25$ difference is pretty small considering that 2500k was up to 50% faster.
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 Look at his currency "Ruble", he lives in Russia I'd think. So prices are different for him there. He is talking about the prices in his territory, so American pricing (new and used) are different compared to his territory. So of course your prices and situation are not applicable to his, and vice versa.
I used to like my FX 8580 and had no problems playing games on it. It eventually died and I replaced it with the FX 8370. I actually underclocked it a little. Both of them were space heaters and caused my room to get very hot. I solved that by building and exhaust box that sat on top of my tower. That pushed the heat through a 120mm noctua fan and out a dryer vent tube and to a vent in my window.
This video reaffirms what I've always known. Vishera 6/8 core OC'd to 4.5+ GHz could always push GPUs up to 390X/Fury X/980/980 Ti/580/590/1060 6 GB just fine. Anything more than that, 1070/V56 and up required faster CPU
Actually pretty sure a stock 8350 could push all those cards except the 980ti. I would say u should overclock if u have a 1070 or vega and ur playing at 1080p
@@HD-dp1pr IDK. I know very well a 8370 OC'd to like 4.5 can't push the 980ti to max. i own tons of hardware and pair up random things. I have since swapped out the 980ti and have a rx 580 paired. I'll experiment on that later. But I think the 570 is normally the capping point. 570/gtx 1060
I don't know how you screwed up on SOTR but I played it through high presets, 1080p, FX8350/Rx 580 quite smooth. I keep an FX8350 for testing it's really not that bad and can play through most games, FCND is fine at High presets also. Any how good luck.
@@Hardwareunboxed I said high presets 1080p Go look at my steam screen shots upcoast604 it's labeled for you. Ps, if you scroll down you'll also see FX8350/GTX1070 ultra ultra ultra a far cry from 22fps, avg 69fps
That CPU is also 125W. It was going to be a power hungry adventure with that CPU from the start. I have the 8-core FX-8300, it was 95W, a little less power hungry. It's funny you and other Steve were playing with your FX CPUs like I was this past weekend. I had to get FX out of my system (mentally) when I realized my mATX 768GM motherboard I only used a Phenom II on, it also supported FX which I happen to buy for cheap on ebay last year for fun. I paired the 8300 with my ancient GTX 560 that I sported a NZXT Kraken G10 on since the original shroud broke off (thanks GALAXy). I could barely get 30 fps in games tested like Tekken 7 and MK11, the latter set to lowest graphic settings, so I swapped in a low frills RX 550 4GB that I regret buying 2 years ago for mining, and it gave the performance a little bit of boost, but still was under powered. I'm over FX now. I swapped out the 760GM motherboard with a B550 Mortar Wifi, and put it with a R5 3600, but for GPU, I decided to play dangerous low and paired those components with a GTX 1650 Super. :p
Maybe even using say a RX Vega 56 / 64 or the RX RVII and the Newer Navi Gpu's would pair better being an All AMD setup vs AMD Cpu + Nvidia Gpu. There is still a lot of test's that could be done to see what the best pairing would be. Would an all out FX build be more on pair with the newer Cpus. As for an All out FX build goes , I would suggest the following hardware - FX-9590 + 64 gb of ecc-ddr3 at 1866 mhz + a PCIE-3 x 4 NVME m.2 ( 1 tb or 2 tb ) model for best possible performance. As for the GPU's start at the RX - 450 to the RX-5700xt for AMD gpu's and for Nvidia gpu's stat at the GTX - 1050 all the way to the RTX 2080ti ; that would let us see what combination gives the absolute maximum performing FX build.
The numbers look pretty poor of course, and I don't at all regret upgrading my rig, I was actually surprised with my own PCs performance on AC: Odyssey. FX 8350 with a Powercolor Red Devil Golden Sample RX 580 8GB. Cutscenes were choppy at times, but I never once had any sort of hiccup during gameplay, no matter how populated it got. From a purely visual and gameplay standpoint (and not a numbers standpoint), I was surprised it ran as well as it did.
Came to see FX dunked on, left surprisingly impressed that these FX processors could make for some cheap gaming systems on the used market. So they run a little warm, who cares? So do consoles.
It's not like the 8370 was averaging 20 to 25 FPS on all games while the other processors were averaging 90 to 100 FPS. And playing games at 1080p on ultra settings is probably not necessary but I understand that by doing that it shows just how far behind the 8370 is compared to the other processors. This video gives me hope that my 8320 might be good for another year or two. Good job.
Thank you for doing these tests, it is nice to see how these things have evolved over the years. I would love to see the 6 year old i7 5820k-quad channel + rtx 2080 super setup test if you have the hardware available. :)
Same, looking for data with the 5960x, now that the 8 core processors are widespread, would be interesting to see how the first 8core i7 stack up. They are still really decent gaming chips once overclocked btw
Ran an 8350 system with a Asus 990fx Sabertooth Motherboard and a GTX 770!! for like 4-5 years! Running a R7 3700x and RX 5700 Xt Now! Had Phenom II before that! Never could Get into Paying Intel Premiums even though I knew They were faster!!
I'm still using an FX6300 6 core. Has run wonderfully since 2015 and only now running Helldivers 2 do I have any issues with it running 100% temperature range 60 degrees Celsius give or take a few
So if you are chasing high benchmarks, the fx is slow. But if you are targeting 60fps gaming, the fx is usually about to achieve that. Noting that all your Nvidia cards impose the scheduling task onto the CPU.
@HardwareUnboxed Some of your percentages are way off. As if you added some arbitrary percentage to them (50?). F.e. Going from 65 fps to ~120 fps you claim a 150% uplift. Going from ~65 fps going to ~95 fps you claim over 90% uplift. ?
I am looking at turning my old 8370 machine into a Linux based server, not sure which distro as this will be my first go at any server. I think it will do fine for that.
Steve1: FX 8370 Revisit
Steve2: FX 8370 Scaling
Spider man looking at himself
Seems to be a trend. I've seen many techtubers revisiting older and chips lately.
Seems to be a slow period before the mayhem of September....
@@Oz_Gnarly_One the calm before the storm
@@BeersAndBeatsPDX cause older chips are not that bad and still useable.
because no new chip in this summer, just only "some" Renoir paper launch (but that is a zen2 product to), the problem with that still not available (yet)
this is a reason, have some time for "revisit some old tech"..
But only a month passed, how i upgraded my system from a FX8320 to a Xeon 2678v3 (i know not new product, but this was a "cheap" upgrade).
When there is no new releases in cpu/gpu market but you are addict to benchmarks so anyways...
Honestly, that's why I keep old hardware around here. One, even a Core 2 Duo or Pentium II has it's purpose, two, it's cool to play with them.
haha man like seriously I am starting to think Benchmark addiction is a thing
Here trying to catch the Dragon
@@glenwaldrop8166 I still have my e6600 bought new .. but oldest and still running is 3800 x 2
@@kravenfoxbodies2479 I just retired an e6410 (or thereabouts).
I think my next oldest would be an x2 6000 or somethink around those lines.
They're both dedicated boxes so they'll get packed up in storage in case the new primary fails.
Great. I was just watching another Steve's AMD Phenom revisit and here comes another juicy CPU vid by short hair Steve. xD
Thanks for these videos, Steves. Here before YT's notification.
Btw,
"[Music]
welcome back to harvard unboxed"
UA-cam captions most of the times writes Harvard unboxed . Also in this video
Phenom GPU scaling next ;)
@Kleiner Helfer - yes, Phenom II 1090T to be specific.
@@50H3i1 GN did Phenom II today.
hammer on box
I think it's safe to say Dr. Lisa su turn everything around for amd and the consumer
She makes me wish that I bought AMD stock years ago.. Dangit
@@CaveyMoth From just a couple dollars to almost $90 a share
All credit goes to one person? Cool.
Oh yeah! It made mainstream top of the line CPUs more than double in price to $750. Can't believe how blessed I feel as a consumer. Eager to get a 4950X for a cool $1000
@@dpokor Yeah, but what WAS the mainstream top of the line CPU? It was the 7700K and now, 3 generations later what was the best of the best is compared to bottom of the line(yeah, there's Athlon but that one is like 40-50$). You went from 4/8 to 16/32, and also, 3950x is not even aimed at mainstream consumer.
But hey, everyone has a right to have an opinion, no matter how stupid it is
* Steve from GN sweating profusely *
@D A D D Y was there an issue with what he presented? Everything seems to line up.
I ain't get no time to watch a 46 hours GN vid to get an answer to a simple question about PC
@@JhanSolo332 his lows are a little to low(even compared to this video those lows are really low) and he didn't overclock the fsb or the north bridge.
@@HD-dp1pr I had the video on in the background but I'm pretty sure he did overclock the fsb (the phenom video, I didn't watch the FX). Not sure which video you're referring to because of this comment thread
@@rossharper1983 no he actually didn't overclock the north bridge nor fsb. He just overclocked it via multiplier and called it a day. U can check for ur self. This for his fx video not the phenom
Speaking as someone who uses his PC parts for 10+ years, these comparisons with legacy hardware are very welcome - thank you!
(That said, the Phenom II x4 in my backup rig does get a bit long in the tooth now...)
- Hey Steve! How about we revisit Fx 8370?
- Great idea, Steve! Let's get this GPU scaling video ready!
- I thought I was talking to myself.
Great video always nice to see old hardware in action.
My step son has a FX 8370 setup that he got used for really cheap about 3 years ago. He got me to set it up for him and I tweaked it to 4.6GHz with 2200MHz DDR3 and installed a RX 580 8GB card. What surprised me was some of the results you got here with games like Tomb Raider & far cry new dawn.
I know he played both of those games and since he locks his refresh at 60Hz those games were smooth on this setup. I think the only game he had issues with that I know of is Assassins Creed OD I remember him saying it would dip to mid 50's in heavy action areas such as crowded towns. But lets faced it Assassins creed OD and the one before it were very badly optimized games.
The hardware scheduler in AMD GPUs works much better for a slow FX CPU.
The 3300X is such an amazing value proposition..
If you can find it for a good price
Not if it's only available for 200$
@argh666 I've just checked here in Sweden and there's also no stock. Disappointing..
In Poland online shops list it at 130-140 USD after taxes, supposedly in stock
it's already pushed to the limit by games like Tomb Raider and others, and when next-gen consoles come out and 1-2x years pass pretty much an r7 2700x will be the new minimum standard, with the 3700x being optimal and whatever newer comes out being ideal.
"Welcome to Hammer on Box"
I can't get it out of my head welp welp
Yeah, but the UA-cam auto-captions feature says: "Welcome back to Harvard Unboxed". :D
i got harvard unboxed lol
Harder In Box
@@NtvBulgaria Anyone got worse than this? lol
@@NtvBulgaria The segment title is "Hammer on Box".
Steve, admit it. You are secretly love FX too.
So you are saying Steve is mentally handicapped?
well yeah, considering that the fx 8320 was 140$ since early 2014, for the time it was awesome, the fx 6300 was 90$ since 2013. At the time for 90$ you couldn't even get an i3.
@@rattlehead999 I think AMD went at a net loss selling at that price, but yeah, you're right. For the time it was a good deal, especially for productivity workloads.
@@cieuxlux9617 nope, they were selling at a 17% profit margin, they just didn't sell enough.
And they lost money only in 2015
Yes, I'm sure he are.
at 4:01, how is 95fps 101% faster than 65fps? Am I missing something?
I was wondering this as well.
He also says that 132fps compared to 65fps is 189% more frames, isn't that just 103% more?
Well I guess it time for Steve to take a break from benchmarking lol
I think he compared the 3600 by accident not the 1700
@@miniweeddeerz1820 he compares the 3600 in the next sentence, saying it is 189% higher, which also doesn't make sense. I'm guessing the FX was actually 45fps and they made a mistake and plotted 65? Just a guess
@@BassimAhdabEng perhaps
when its amd vs amd vs amd
.. vs AMD
*another AMD sitting in the corner*
I'm still on FX-8350.. and I just bought an fx-8300 to upgrade from fx-4100 in my second pc.. works for me..
How many CPU’s send you a check ~ 7 years after you buy it though.
i7 3930K - Absolute monster :D
Alex I am curious how long my 6850k will last. It is beast to this day.
@@laejxela And in quad channel still rivals the 8700k
@@davidobutt No one would buy an 8700k and disable half of the cores, so it's not a rival at all, except in artificial tests.
@@ultrademigod ?????
Love these GPU scaling videos with older processors.
I'd love to see i7-4790 and i7-4790k, to see how high of s GPU they should be paired with.
Steve. We all know you love the FX CPUs. Stop denying it 😏
My brother loves his FX 6100...NOT
I actually like mine, as bad as it is.
Had an 8320E myself. Those were simple times
He’s silly for them.
I'd be curious to see how this compares to a 2500K in modern titles.
Does the quasi-SMT on the FX chip help, where the lack of hyper-threading holds back the i5? 1% lows could be interesting 🤔
We really need a GPU Scaling video like this for the i5 2500k (stock and overclocked). It would be 10/10.
2600K results will be far more interesting, I'd happily bet there are far more of them remaining in the wild, given 4c/8t is still actually passable unlike 4c/4t.
do a search on hardware unboxed and gamers nexus they both have done it a few times with the 2500K & 2600K.
hardware unboxed even has the 'Is It Worth the Upgrade? Ryzen 3 vs. Core i5-2500K vs. FX-8370' video just for you
@@liaminwales well things can changed after time pasts remember how the 7600k was beating the ryzen 5 1600 well now it's turned to ryzens favour and the 1600 now beats the 7600k in games
@@HD-dp1pr gamers nexus did a video
'10 Years of Intel CPUs Benchmarked: i7-930, 2600K, 4790K, & Everything Since (2020)'
so it's covered fairly well on both channels and they do good work you can trust.
i relay dont like the 7600K v Ryzen 1600, why not compare a Ryzen 3 2300x v i7 8700K.
it's simpler to compare CPU's by core count than market segmentation, if you do that you falling in to marketing.
CPU's dont get faster or slower with time what changes is the software, a CPU with more cores can scale past a faster CPU with less cores but it will depend on the software.
if a user can understand a bit about hardware and software they will be better off.
your much better off if you understand how software scaling works.
but by trying to confuse the topic comparing a 4c cpu with a 6c/12t cpu without relay talking about the complexity of software rubs me wrong.
im not taking a brand side, you can make the same comparison with a Ryzen 3 2300X v Ryzen 5 2600 and it will rub me wrong and most people will point out 'hay one has more cores' so why can anyone think it's fair to do when comparing brands?
Whats most incredible is the fact that it still runs all modern titles
Can't wait for the 2500k revisit! Used one of those until last year when I upgraded to a ryzen 5 3600.
Like someone commented in the Gamernexus's video
IF IT ISN'T PRESENT PROOF HOW WAS IT SUPPOSED TO BE FUTURE PROOF? :D
This fucker wasn't even past proof when it released.
Futureproof: Compared to Intel's similar priced processors during that time of release for the FX-8320 the i5-3470 (similar priced).
@@ComputerProfessor Fx 8320 came out in 2012. Sandy Bridge was by that point out for over a year and half. At one point you could have gotten a 2500k on sale for $190 while the 8320 was going for $170. And that THING was PROPER FUTUREPROOF
@@mesicek7 You had to pay more for the motherboard to overcock the i5 2500k and I never recall it being on sale for $190 during that time. The gigabyte ga-78lmt-usb3 was a $60 that could overclock the fx-8320 to about 4.3-4.4ghz. We're also comparing at that time last-gen prices to at that time current gen.
Here are some benchmarks at the base cock vs base cock. No overcock :)
www.computerbase.de/2017-03/amd-ryzen-1800x-1700x-1700-test/4/#diagramm-battlefield-1-dx12-multiplayer-fps
@@ComputerProfessor The OC on the FX cpu's does absolutely nothing. These cpu's were complete wank for gaming.
web.archive.org/web/20121110113602/www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=StoreIM&Depa=1&Category=34
8350 that was AMD's flagship cost the same as the brand new ivy bridge 3570k - the 3570k completely demolished it in gaming.
www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5
ua-cam.com/video/c_Gcg-tFfu0/v-deo.html
It's dogshite and it seems some people still wank over it
edit: computer base used slower ram on the sandy bridge cpu
ua-cam.com/video/_jiXkrRoD4w/v-deo.html
Sitting here with a 2020 silicon 3600 @ 4.40 GHz, and developing a smile that's getting bigger as the graphs come. 😂 I was looking at the 8370 back in 2014, but opted to stay on FM2+ with a 6600K, and then 7890K, up until literally last week when I made the switch to AM4. So happy.
Oh, I'd love to also see a comparison between phenom/buldozer/ryzen at the same clock speed and core count, have't seen one of those in a while. Praying the best Steve provides.
A few months ago I repurposed an old FX-8350 home server into a gaming machine for my son. New case, new 1TB ssd, new 1650 super, and keeping the 32gb ddr3. He loves it. He's just doing 1080p at 60hz on his display, and this setup hits that easily at high settings in everything he runs. Probably going to use the FX processor for a couple more years before we rebuild his machine with something newer.
For the "future proof" test, let's see how the price equivalent system from 2013 did.
FX8350 o/c vs i3-2120 or i5-2400 (non-k, no o/c). That was the price-to-performance choice.
The i5-2500K and i7-2600K were a massive price jump. Even then, the FX8350 can nearly keep up with those in more modern titles (where multithreading does something.)
Still using an FX 8350 and a GTX 970. I feel like an old timer, but it has worked well for me over the years. Now I'm getting back into pc gaming, got an x570 and a 3700x on the way.
Would love to see how Phenom II X4 980 and Phenom II X6 1100T would compare in these benchmarks as well.
Very nice review, thank you!
They don't do well with modern games, just like the core 2 quads...
Same complaint with long hair Steve's video, I'd like to have seen Ivy Bridge i3 and i5 compared.
Far Cry New Dawn runs the same on my Ivy Bridge. I guarantee the i5 and i3 didn't fair as well.
Otherwise, great work as always.
Strangely enough I think upside down Steve may have given the FX a fairer closing comment than long hair Steve.
No one expected the FX to be useful in 2020, however, we did expect it to outlast the i3 that was often recomended over it.
Those couple of years where the i3 was faster only matters if you exclusively game. The FX beat Ivy Bridge in work related apps, even held it's own against Haswell and above. It's once AVX2 became a more common thing around 2015 where Intel started to walk off and leave the FX, which it left it's older chips as well.
I came from an FX-8350 system. I upgraded to a Ryzen 1700X while keeping the same GPU and other components, when ryzen first launched, because I didn’t have money for an entirely new system. then upgraded to a more recent GPU later on, and then nvme. And so on. So glad I did. Ryzen was a great upgrade path for me.
First gen ryzen is still very decent. Ofc zen2 is a huge jump from it but it provides fairly good gaming performance, you have 8 cores, and with a reasonable GPU like a 1660 super/ 2060 or below it's a nice system.
Appreciate this video. Just upgraded my son from an 8350 to a 12100f and this gives me an idea what sort of performance uplift he'll see with his 980
My 8370 literally outlived my Ryzen 5 1600.
Its running right now.
That's funny, I bought an 8320E and it lasted a few months of abuse before blowing the motherboard (no idea if it survived).
@@h2oaddict - mine Is still running. My daughter is playing Roblox on it right now.
LOVE to see GPU scaling data as it is so crucial to see how an upgrade be it CPU or GPU will affect gaming performance. So many 'over GPU' their system and wonder why they are not seeing similar results to the GPU reviews. Thanks for all the hard work as always Steve!
I'm envious of any FX user that has recently upgraded - to see your minimum frames double or triple has got to feel good! I'm really looking forward to your revisit of the 2500K. I have a 3570K OC right now and I am hoping for large gains.
@rom_kohai My 1080 Ti is up to the task. ;) More than likely, I'll be waiting for the desktop Ryzen 4000-series before building anything new.
Well now it's 2020 and I told you so :P
-Sent from my FX-8350
..and here I am keeping my shop in the garage warm with my FX 9590 .
I told you so
- FX-8370 owner
i went from my old FX-8350 to a R5 3600.... its like night and day difference. that being said, when i got the 8350 years ago, i got it for super cheap and it did what i needed it to. barely. once i upgraded, i was amazed.
When I first saw this video thumbnail I thought it was GN 😅
upgraded to my ryzen 7 1700 + wraith prism + gigabyte x370 gaming 5 for $250AUD back in Feb 2020 before the crazy inflation - so happy to see this video! OC'd at 3.6 and will happily sit on this for the next few years :D
how about u do fx frenzy fx 4000 bulldozer vs piledriver version and 8 series bulldozer vs piledriver
Went from FX 8370 to Ryzen 3600 at the beginning of this year and yeah it was a massive upgrade. Still, to its credit, in the 3 years that I have owned the FX 8370 processor, I had 0 stability issues with it.
And here I was, until about one year ago, still rocking an FX4130 on my living room PC. It even had stuttering issues when running rocket league in split-screen mode. ROCKET LEAGUE.
Now it has been replaced with a Ryzen 2600 and it's all good :)
Went from a Phenom II X4 840 (the one with the cache of an Athlon II ) RX460 to a R5 2600 RX580January 2019. Was a huge leap
I have a friend with the 4130, he still uses it today. Funnily enough it was refurbished from Microcenter for $39. It still plays all the games he likes, even though it's a low end CPU.
I went from an i3 2120 to a 3950x and the performance was night and day also.
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Nice Video. It's Interesting to see how well the FX-Series still performs today. I wonder how much better the FX-9590 would of done in place of the FX-8370. I had paired a MSI RX - 580 Gaming X 8gb with my FX-9590 , I had 32 - gb of 1866 mhz ram , maybe faster ram would of let my pc run better overall but even at 1866 mhz it was running nicely. I feel the Pairing of an RX-580 8gb or maybe the RX-590 8gb would be the Optimum performance to minimize CPU and GPU bottlenecking. The results do show that the FX-Series still would be worth running today if you could get a system for a good price. I would of liked to know how much ram was used for the FX System - if it wasn't 32 gb total , would having 32 gb made a significant difference. Having a well balanced system is the ideal setup. If the test's were done using say the RX - 590 8gb and the GTX - 1060 6b as the GPU's for all of the systems. I am a little disappointed that no AMD Gpu was used in the tests.
But how do they work with the GT 740, my current GPU lmao
worse than the 1650 super... get a 3060 for christmas and then you will have an excuse to get a 4600
Hey, better than my old one from 2017 - a GT520. That thing had thousands of hours of gaming on it at 10024x768 and 800x600 hahaha.
Fred Kibler I’m gonna get the AMD equivalent probably, Ima buy an entire new system when AMD’s new shit drops
I mean even with such a slow gpu, you'll probably see slowdowns and drops in framerate, not to mention the poor windows experience you'll have with it.
@Ali Kemal İltuş You'd probably be waiting like around a year for that to come out, just so you know.
Nice, this is more relevant than some may think.
I know someone who uses a FX system for art and isn't sure if a 3600 or 3700X is needed to feel a improvement.
I told him a 51€ 1200AF should be faster, because let's face it, much software these days is just heavy on memcopy.
This video nicely gives a idea where things stand in relation.
Harvard unboxed, my favourite channel!
Thank you for welcoming me back to hammer on box, I also like Hardware Unboxed too, but I like you guys more.
great video, do you think is possible to do a similar video with the old intel cpus? like i7 4790 or something like that?
Would the results have been different with 4K res? I know that's dumb but had me curious. Awesome job btw, Steve!
Only with rtx2080ti maybe.
really love these videos!
Hey Steve how about Benchmark the FX-8370 With All Current AMD and Nvidia GPUs? (2017-2020, So from Vega-Navi, and Pascal-Turing.)
My kind of video. Owned an 8350 (I got really cheaply), a 1700 and currently own a 3900x and 3600.
What about a Northbridge on FX? What was its working frequency?
Damn cant believe the old skool FX8370 can still do 4k 60fps with 3080ti
Hammer on Box? Smashing title!
UA-cam captions said Harvard Unboxed
lol XD
Watched this video on an fx-8370, R9 390x system. power consumpion roughly 300W
Is youtube forced to use h.264 so that you can use hardware acceleration from the r9 390x?
One for i7-2600k / i703770k please
I still have my FX 8350, on another PC with a GTX 460. After seeing this it's incredible how bad It aged, even the slowest Turing GPU is enough to see it's full performance.
Good video, and this turned out to be MUCH more interesting than GN's video. It also contained a better conclusion IMO, good job.
Ooh, so Gamers Nexus and Harder In Box are both covering retro CPUs? What a treat. Steve vs Steve, here we go.
Glad to see Steve still getting his AMD FX fix ... :)
Soo then.. "i told you so?" My 8350 also ended its life powering a geforce 1060. Upgraded out of it, to a 1080ti with ryzen 1700x. I still keep the 8350 around as a web surfing and casual game machine.
By the way, The court case against the fx series processors was Garbage. No where does it say a "Core" has to have a floating point unit. I built computers, 386 and 486 based systems, that did not have math-coprocessors. they were still considered Single Core cpu's even without a Floating point unit. the Fx chips had 8 logic units, and 4 math. just because Intel managed to convince a judge that a FPU is needed with every ALU to be a "Core" doesnt make it right. by that logic, 386's and 486's were zero core cpu's.
It's garbage that AMD initially went from using modules/cores in marketing to just cores...As tech Jesus (paraphrasing) put it, they acted like they had the stated cores in some workloads, half what was stated in others. Everything before acted like it had the stated number of cores in all workloads. Even the preceding Phenom II. Which is why the FX series was a disaster.
@@dabombinablemi6188 fully agreed it was a disaster, just mentioning that the criteria that they (the court prosicuter) tried to define "cores" with, doesnt hold water.
What about other workloads?
I used the FX 8350 for Virtual Machines.
It did well, but I don't know how it compared to an Intel of the same pricepoint (processor and mainboard).
As an FX8300 owner, thanks for this video haha
I JUST bought a Ryzen 5 1600 AF kit (I've watched some benchmark videos and its performance is about the same as the 3 3300X, but it was much cheaper) so let's hope my performance will get much better
Though my video card is just a GTX 960 4GB and I cannot afford a better one so here's hoping haha
I overclocked my 8350 to 4.2ghz, loved that thing.
love it.... 9:45 showing old footage of the msi 1650 :D
Thanks! Ryzen 5 2600 and 7 1700 seem to be similar price on used market and wondering which will be most 'future proof' :)
Oh right, this isn't a re-upload, it's a completely different Steve benchmarking an old AMD FX8370.
There's a typo at 3:50, one set of FPS results got repeated 3 times.
Great comparison Steve! Would love to see performance of some of the X58 platform CPUS with modern GPU'S against this too. I've got an old X58 platform with a 6 core X5660 collecting dust that a friend could use. This platform also goes for a fortune on the used market for some reason compared to what you can get brand new, and people still buy them up.
Hey, I just saw ryzen 4900h is out in asus tuf, how about adding it to the list
It is a laptop cpu
@@WhiteCat20569 i know but they cover laptop CPUs as well, what's the issue
In this list he talks about desktop CPU's
@Ali Kemal İltuş okay so that's the thing, sorry for the misunderstanding. new list it is. And cool DP might cause seizure some day LOL
Hmmm, let's see here...
I got my FX-8350 at launch for $195, paired it with 16gb (2 sticks of 8gb in dual channel) of DDR3 CAS-10 1866. It went through a GTX 460 1gb, R9 270X 2gb, and currently sitting at an RX 580 8gb Saphire Nitro+, while undervalued and stable at 4.2ghz all core clock.
I've managed to run every single game at 1080p/1440p high/max settings for the last 8 years with 3 different generations worth of mid ranged GPUs thrown at my rig.
I'd say the FX-8350 proved everyone wrong and turned into a highly respectable value king, and the extra cores paid off in a variety of newer games at the $195 MSRP, despite its lower IPC.
Most of us have got our moneys worth and can wait it out for a DDR5 based 4th/5th gen Ryzen rig and stretch our money further. Jokes on everyone who jumped ship to 1st gen Ryzen or 7th gen intel.
Think of it this way: FX was cheaper than 2500k and it still provides playable (60 fps or more) in a lot of titles. For people who don't have any money but found themselves with FX8320E or something along those lines (parents' PC or a PC from older brother that was assembled on the cheap back in 2013). 1650S is a good GPU. You have your 8320E, you get a used 1050ti or something and you're good to go while you're saving up cash for the new platform.
Even locked i5s are faster. Price is not an argument.
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 But it is. When locked new i5's were at least 8000 rubles, unlocked new 8320E's were 4500 rubles. There are a lot of things that need to be known about FX CPU to make it decent, but it's a CPU that does CPU things and it does them somewhat decently, even stock. The second PC in our home has 4350 instead of a CPU, and it's good enough to run party games and stuff. Sure a used i5 might be better, but used i5 with motherboard AND ram would cost me at least 8000 rubles, at which point i'm better off buying a new Ryzen 1200. Used FX4350, 8 Gb of ram and mobo cost me 4000 rubles.
@@Erenzilable Launch price of 8350 - 195$
Launch price of the much faster i5 2500k - 220$.
25$ difference is pretty small considering that 2500k was up to 50% faster.
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 Look at his currency "Ruble", he lives in Russia I'd think. So prices are different for him there. He is talking about the prices in his territory, so American pricing (new and used) are different compared to his territory.
So of course your prices and situation are not applicable to his, and vice versa.
@@joeyvdm1 I used MSRP pricing for this exact reason. Price gouging can occur in some regions, which skews the picture.
I used to like my FX 8580 and had no problems playing games on it. It eventually died and I replaced it with the FX 8370. I actually underclocked it a little. Both of them were space heaters and caused my room to get very hot. I solved that by building and exhaust box that sat on top of my tower. That pushed the heat through a 120mm noctua fan and out a dryer vent tube and to a vent in my window.
what's all the talk about using a FX processor?! i have been using mine since 2011...
This video reaffirms what I've always known. Vishera 6/8 core OC'd to 4.5+ GHz could always push GPUs up to 390X/Fury X/980/980 Ti/580/590/1060 6 GB just fine.
Anything more than that, 1070/V56 and up required faster CPU
going a bit far on that claim. drop the 980, 980ti, 590, and (well honestly I couldn't even tell you where the fury x falls)
Actually pretty sure a stock 8350 could push all those cards except the 980ti. I would say u should overclock if u have a 1070 or vega and ur playing at 1080p
@@HD-dp1pr IDK. I know very well a 8370 OC'd to like 4.5 can't push the 980ti to max.
i own tons of hardware and pair up random things. I have since swapped out the 980ti and have a rx 580 paired. I'll experiment on that later. But I think the 570 is normally the capping point. 570/gtx 1060
@@bluescluessuperagent About on par with 590. So faster than 980, not quite 980 Ti.
@@bluescluessuperagent Clearly not 570 given it shows 1650 Super as GPU bottlenecked even with 8370. And that one is around 580/1060 level.
I don't know how you screwed up on SOTR but I played it through high presets, 1080p, FX8350/Rx 580 quite smooth.
I keep an FX8350 for testing it's really not that bad and can play through most games, FCND is fine at High presets also.
Any how good luck.
Nothing was screwed up. There's countless videos online providing that the data is good: ua-cam.com/video/fcls4GH_sfY/v-deo.html
@@Hardwareunboxed I said high presets 1080p
Go look at my steam screen shots upcoast604 it's labeled for you.
Ps, if you scroll down you'll also see FX8350/GTX1070 ultra ultra ultra a far cry from 22fps, avg 69fps
That CPU is also 125W. It was going to be a power hungry adventure with that CPU from the start.
I have the 8-core FX-8300, it was 95W, a little less power hungry.
It's funny you and other Steve were playing with your FX CPUs like I was this past weekend.
I had to get FX out of my system (mentally) when I realized my mATX 768GM motherboard I only used a Phenom II on, it also supported FX which I happen to buy for cheap on ebay last year for fun.
I paired the 8300 with my ancient GTX 560 that I sported a NZXT Kraken G10 on since the original shroud broke off (thanks GALAXy).
I could barely get 30 fps in games tested like Tekken 7 and MK11, the latter set to lowest graphic settings, so I swapped in a low frills RX 550 4GB that I regret buying 2 years ago for mining, and it gave the performance a little bit of boost, but still was under powered.
I'm over FX now. I swapped out the 760GM motherboard with a B550 Mortar Wifi, and put it with a R5 3600, but for GPU, I decided to play dangerous low and paired those components with a GTX 1650 Super. :p
Maybe even using say a RX Vega 56 / 64 or the RX RVII and the Newer Navi Gpu's would pair better being an All AMD setup vs AMD Cpu + Nvidia Gpu. There is still a lot of test's that could be done to see what the best pairing would be. Would an all out FX build be more on pair with the newer Cpus. As for an All out FX build goes , I would suggest the following hardware - FX-9590 + 64 gb of ecc-ddr3 at 1866 mhz + a PCIE-3 x 4 NVME m.2 ( 1 tb or 2 tb ) model for best possible performance. As for the GPU's start at the RX - 450 to the RX-5700xt for AMD gpu's and for Nvidia gpu's stat at the GTX - 1050 all the way to the RTX 2080ti ; that would let us see what combination gives the absolute maximum performing FX build.
The numbers look pretty poor of course, and I don't at all regret upgrading my rig, I was actually surprised with my own PCs performance on AC: Odyssey. FX 8350 with a Powercolor Red Devil Golden Sample RX 580 8GB. Cutscenes were choppy at times, but I never once had any sort of hiccup during gameplay, no matter how populated it got. From a purely visual and gameplay standpoint (and not a numbers standpoint), I was surprised it ran as well as it did.
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Came to see FX dunked on, left surprisingly impressed that these FX processors could make for some cheap gaming systems on the used market. So they run a little warm, who cares? So do consoles.
It's not like the 8370 was averaging 20 to 25 FPS on all games while the other processors were averaging 90 to 100 FPS. And playing games at 1080p on ultra settings is probably not necessary but I understand that by doing that it shows just how far behind the 8370 is compared to the other processors. This video gives me hope that my 8320 might be good for another year or two. Good job.
It has to be a combination of the low IPC and PCI-E 2.0 that hampers performance of the FX8370.
Thank you for doing these tests, it is nice to see how these things have evolved over the years. I would love to see the 6 year old i7 5820k-quad channel + rtx 2080 super setup test if you have the hardware available. :)
Same, looking for data with the 5960x, now that the 8 core processors are widespread, would be interesting to see how the first 8core i7 stack up.
They are still really decent gaming chips once overclocked btw
And I'm still chugging along on... Kaveri (A10-8750B). It was supposed to be a stopgap until Zen released. I bought a laptop instead.
Ran an 8350 system with a Asus 990fx Sabertooth Motherboard and a GTX 770!! for like 4-5 years! Running a R7 3700x and RX 5700 Xt Now!
Had Phenom II before that! Never could Get into Paying Intel Premiums even though I knew They were faster!!
how can the r5 1400 equal the r3 1200? are we saying the hyperthreading is doing nothing?
How is the RX 5500 XT doing currently vs the GTX 1650 Super?
I'm still using an FX6300 6 core. Has run wonderfully since 2015 and only now running Helldivers 2 do I have any issues with it running 100% temperature range 60 degrees Celsius give or take a few
Probably not much difference in higher resolutions like 4K I presume?
Excellent information.
So if you are chasing high benchmarks, the fx is slow. But if you are targeting 60fps gaming, the fx is usually about to achieve that. Noting that all your Nvidia cards impose the scheduling task onto the CPU.
Boy, I still use my ole FX-8350 with 2400 MHz DDR3 RAM and a GTX 1070 👍🏻
Well, clearly it's time to upgrade.
@@Noxar_cz you know you can put your setting on low, no ?
@@juGGaKNotEmpire
To put an even lower load on the GPU and create an even bigger CPU bottleneck?
You are severly - severly bottlenecking your GPU.
@@FutureChaosTV Nah, I game at 1440P so it's alright
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my sons rocking my old 8350 in his build. i dont have to heat his room in the winter as a plus.
@HardwareUnboxed
Some of your percentages are way off. As if you added some arbitrary percentage to them (50?).
F.e. Going from 65 fps to ~120 fps you claim a 150% uplift.
Going from ~65 fps going to ~95 fps you claim over 90% uplift.
?
Yeah it reads like Steve is reading from a different dataset than what's on screen.
I am looking at turning my old 8370 machine into a Linux based server, not sure which distro as this will be my first go at any server. I think it will do fine for that.
Petition: add a hammer to the top of the blue cube in the Hardware Unboxed logo, make Hammer On Box canon.
Well I did buy an fx4300
Though I was a newbie and had no idea what was better at the time:(