His rotation from the video: 1. Cast Fire Elemental 2. Cast Liquid Magma Totem 3. Primordial Wave (gives you haste with splintered elements after casting lava burst) 4. Lava Burst (the more targets hit with flame shock the more haste from splintered elements) 5. Earthquake number 1 6. CAST ASCENDANCE 7. Earthquake number 2 8. Earthquake number 3 9. Spam lava beam with haste window... (watch splintered elements buff) 10 Another earquake maybe (depending) 11. Cast storm keeper (once splintered elements is off... make a WA to track it) 12. Big lava beams (cast earthquake as needed) 13. Flame shock (see next step) 13. Primordial Wave again (when its up gives haste window) 14. You should still be in ascendance... keep casting lava beam going and spend with earthquakes.
One suggestion on the rotation - Ascendence increases lava burst damage based on your crit %, so you should first ascend proc then primordial wave proc to gain the extra dam. Additionally this may value crit much higher as a stat for this build
I've loved all these build/rotation videos. Really great job in the buildup to DF. I hope you'll continue to put these out as balance changes update new builds and rotations in different classes and specs. Subscribed
Nice build this is what I was thinking of playing next expo. I've been toying around with the fire elemental build going down the right side of the tree and man Earthquake pumps. With 5 more skill points I'm thinking of taking mountains will fall over ascendance we'll have to see.
Few things. First, love the build w/o Icefury! Great job explaining as well, enjoyed the video. Small suggestion, when talking about the rotation you are using, have you ever considered the graphic some folks use where it has a basic block flow chart of the spells used? It's a great visual queue for people trying to get the rotation down to reference. Great work, thank you very much!
I like the idea of using chain lightning spells outside the ascendance window. It gives ele shaman a master of the elements feel where as lightning rod you kinda spam chain lightning. I'll have to play with this and see how the Cd's line up but it'll prob be one pack ascendance next pack chain lightning spam until higher keys when each pull takes 2 minutes
Keep in mind that if your group is coordianated and when u get good gear, high haste, you can make a giant pull pop cds, that pull might last long enough so ur ascendance cd is like 30 secs, and you do the same thing again
Hey there, first of all, cool build, interesting idea, especially for fortified weeks with big pulls. I have some suggestions though 1. If you play a build that committs to Ascendance, Aftershock is usually the way to go, if the mobs are alive long enough. Aftershock will give you more Ascendance uptime, which beats the 6th hit on LavalBeam pretty reliably, I would think. 2. In your opener, use totemic recall for a 2nd liquid magma totem, so you get up the maximum of 6 Flameshocks asap, in your video you only have 5. 3.Improved Flame Tongue Weapon is probably stronger than Flow of Power here, because the latter only generates more Maelstrom on Single Target spells. 4. Drop the point from Magma Chamber, put it in Searing Flames, this will give you more reliable Maelstrom generation
This is very similar to what I'm running (I think I commented it one of your previous videos). it is also going to be really good for leveling 60-70, I would swap just a few thinks in the class tree (like take Earth Shield and Elemental, for example), and then swap to Deeply Rooted Elements instead of Ascendance.
Elemental has always been the most satisfying caster to play, even better than mage to me. Now it will be a no brainer for me since I had my eye on enhancement too for sometime. My main will be shaman.
After testing the only thing I don't like about this build is that you have to stack cooldowns to make it work. If you don't have it all lined up it wont work as well and in M+ stuff is really chaotic sometimes.
hey thats a cool talent tree 😊 gotts try tomorrow 😊just one question 🤔how about taking flametongue weapon instead of magma chamber? gives another 5% on all flame spells? 😊
Yep I've tried both... Generally speaking, If you're hitting your Earthquakes, the extra damage from Magma Chamber will be better. Both they are both great!
@@mookmanic awesome I will! thank you. I've been enjoying Enhancement quite a bit but I would really like to get good at elemental too so I can go ranged for crappy melee m+ weeks (by that I mean my own complete inability to not stand in sanguine)
I second what @jj Avelleyra said. Check Zuco's previous video for the lighting rod build - he does similar numbers on multi target, maybe even better on them. On single target maybe he is doing much more. But what is even better - no wasted skills, shorter and simpler rotation. Both Naesams and Petko use similar builds now too, and they perform very competitively.
I was having a lot of issues with lightning build in DF dungeons . They seem like they require an exceptional amount of mobility. I switched from lighting to this lava build and it’s so much smoother and feels so much better.
Can’t help but wonder if Skybreakers might be better than Splintered Elements. It would very much works on how many FS you can keep rolling but might be better overall damage, plus more Fire Elemental uptime will help keep those FS up. Looks really fun but lightning build is probably just better, easier, and more consistent.
The haste from Splintered is almost always better. It just enables you to go wild for 10 seconds. With the CDR on Prime Wave, it makes it even more worth it because you get that big haste window every 20 seconds or so in M+.
Thanks Zuco. Any chance we get an updated Enhace vid? It's been 4 weeks since your last Enh vid and things have changed a bit with minor buffs. Are you still main'ing Enhance too?
I'm still maining Enhance, yes. I'm probably not going to make another Enhance video for now, as I've already made quite a few. The recent buffs that came through about a week ago haven't really changed much in my eyes. Enhance is in a very strong position for M+ and Raid. It still has multiple build options and playstyles and it super fun to play! :)
There is in terms of getting it onto your gear and how effective that ends up being. Once you pass 25% Haste from gear it starts to become less and less worth it to get more. I would say a great amount to land on is 25-30%. Ele really thrives when it's got enough haste. :)
@@Ennar I think so yeah... You're getting lots of free Crit from LB + FS... Buuuutttt, when in Ascendance, you gain extra damage based on Crit, so it's not entirely uselss
I never think that i will use ascendance cus its a huge 3 min cd. Now its really can be 1 min burst. Also i prefer fire build instead of lightnight. Love ur vids.
Would it be worth taking the point out of magma chamber and putting it in flame tongue weapon instead due to the majority of our dam being fire? Or is there a bug with that talent? Great vid Zuco! Liked 😊
Not a bug, but you can´t put gylphs from inscribes on weapons that are enhanced by flametongue weapon, so the net gain you get from the talent is lower as you might think.
Hey buddy good video! I had decided to main Ele and now I have a new build to try out. We will have to see how it compares to the Lightning build in terms of damage, but it does look like fun.
Honestly the only Shaman spec I’ve consistently mained is Enhancement (I mained Elemental a little in MoP), but this is really making be want to main it for a tier in DF even though I’m married to Enhancement (even despite the nerf).
It's not a bad idea at all. This was the first iteration of this build for me, so I gotta fiddle around with it and see what the best talent combos are.
I dont know why but my Ele still feels clunky to me, mainly throwing in Earthquake where you have to click it twice. Still going at it since its my alt but man it feels off to me still, may need more gear or something, who knows.
Uuuugg...ive been using meatballs for 14 years...i was so happy that there was a spec that was mostly lightning bolt and rarely use lava burst unless lava surge procs. Buuut then they nerfed it :sadface
Good thing about shamen is the gameplay. Dmg is not really a thing to worry about. Both lightning and this are great fun to play. Stop looking at ur dmg details and u will enjoy it more :)
I just hate Icefury, if I am being honest. I know it's a pipe dream but I wish there were three builds within Elemental which were all viable. Two which are specifically for Lightning and Fire as well as a hybrid Icefury build. It's just such a drag that they've essentially forced it in to Lightning.
Yes looks cool , but the dmg is not there . And no u cant run whatever u want coz u wont be invited in a pug , if u have a grp going or a guild yes sure other wise NOT . Pug life True story >.< . Hope Im wrong too ...
With respect, you are wrong. I've ran all kinds of Enhancement/Ele builds in season 3 and 4 with pugs. Yes my que time was longer. At times it was frustrating, but, once I got my m+ rating higher, that's all people cared about. I got invited to lots of keys after that. The damage of this build will be incredible. :)
His rotation from the video:
1. Cast Fire Elemental
2. Cast Liquid Magma Totem
3. Primordial Wave (gives you haste with splintered elements after casting lava burst)
4. Lava Burst (the more targets hit with flame shock the more haste from splintered elements)
5. Earthquake number 1
6. CAST ASCENDANCE
7. Earthquake number 2
8. Earthquake number 3
9. Spam lava beam with haste window... (watch splintered elements buff)
10 Another earquake maybe (depending)
11. Cast storm keeper (once splintered elements is off... make a WA to track it)
12. Big lava beams (cast earthquake as needed)
13. Flame shock (see next step)
13. Primordial Wave again (when its up gives haste window)
14. You should still be in ascendance... keep casting lava beam going and spend with earthquakes.
One suggestion on the rotation - Ascendence increases lava burst damage based on your crit %, so you should first ascend proc then primordial wave proc to gain the extra dam.
Additionally this may value crit much higher as a stat for this build
Crit is always highly valued for ele in aoe
Crit is aoe ele bis
Thank god, any build thats good enough on dmg so i can avoid playing with ice fury is a win to me.
This build absolutely rocks. Loving it. thanks, Zuc.
I've loved all these build/rotation videos. Really great job in the buildup to DF. I hope you'll continue to put these out as balance changes update new builds and rotations in different classes and specs. Subscribed
Nice build this is what I was thinking of playing next expo. I've been toying around with the fire elemental build going down the right side of the tree and man Earthquake pumps. With 5 more skill points I'm thinking of taking mountains will fall over ascendance we'll have to see.
Few things. First, love the build w/o Icefury! Great job explaining as well, enjoyed the video. Small suggestion, when talking about the rotation you are using, have you ever considered the graphic some folks use where it has a basic block flow chart of the spells used? It's a great visual queue for people trying to get the rotation down to reference. Great work, thank you very much!
I agree!
I like the idea of using chain lightning spells outside the ascendance window. It gives ele shaman a master of the elements feel where as lightning rod you kinda spam chain lightning. I'll have to play with this and see how the Cd's line up but it'll prob be one pack ascendance next pack chain lightning spam until higher keys when each pull takes 2 minutes
Keep in mind that if your group is coordianated and when u get good gear, high haste, you can make a giant pull pop cds, that pull might last long enough so ur ascendance cd is like 30 secs, and you do the same thing again
Great Fire build...cant wait to try it out
I like Ele very much. It’s a hidden gem for the next Mythic raiding I guess.
Hey there,
first of all, cool build, interesting idea, especially for fortified weeks with big pulls.
I have some suggestions though
1. If you play a build that committs to Ascendance, Aftershock is usually the way to go, if the mobs are alive long enough. Aftershock will give you more Ascendance uptime, which beats the 6th hit on LavalBeam pretty reliably, I would think.
2. In your opener, use totemic recall for a 2nd liquid magma totem, so you get up the maximum of 6 Flameshocks asap, in your video you only have 5.
3.Improved Flame Tongue Weapon is probably stronger than Flow of Power here, because the latter only generates more Maelstrom on Single Target spells.
4. Drop the point from Magma Chamber, put it in Searing Flames, this will give you more reliable Maelstrom generation
This is very similar to what I'm running (I think I commented it one of your previous videos). it is also going to be really good for leveling 60-70, I would swap just a few thinks in the class tree (like take Earth Shield and Elemental, for example), and then swap to Deeply Rooted Elements instead of Ascendance.
I play ele for the first time and im learning the firelord right now, and its so much fun, kinda hard to do as a beginner on shami but hell of fun
That's awesome!
Elemental has always been the most satisfying caster to play, even better than mage to me. Now it will be a no brainer for me since I had my eye on enhancement too for sometime. My main will be shaman.
Awesome to hear!
I would really love to know how this measures up to the other talent builds because this looks so cool and fun
Been looking for a reason to try ele over enhancement, gonna give this a shot. Nice vid!
After testing the only thing I don't like about this build is that you have to stack cooldowns to make it work. If you don't have it all lined up it wont work as well and in M+ stuff is really chaotic sometimes.
You had me at no Ice Fury
hey thats a cool talent tree 😊 gotts try tomorrow 😊just one question 🤔how about taking flametongue weapon instead of magma chamber? gives another 5% on all flame spells? 😊
Yep I've tried both... Generally speaking, If you're hitting your Earthquakes, the extra damage from Magma Chamber will be better. Both they are both great!
Yeah I seen Naseem doing some mplus with this build the other day! I haven’t played WoW in like 9 months I’am so excited for ascendence lava beams!😁😁😁
How does this compare to the lightning rod build?
just as good if not better and a lot more fun, check out naesams video on it as well where he pulls 100+k on every pack
@@mookmanic awesome I will! thank you. I've been enjoying Enhancement quite a bit but I would really like to get good at elemental too so I can go ranged for crappy melee m+ weeks (by that I mean my own complete inability to not stand in sanguine)
I second what @jj Avelleyra said.
Check Zuco's previous video for the lighting rod build - he does similar numbers on multi target, maybe even better on them.
On single target maybe he is doing much more.
But what is even better - no wasted skills, shorter and simpler rotation.
Both Naesams and Petko use similar builds now too, and they perform very competitively.
I was having a lot of issues with lightning build in DF dungeons . They seem like they require an exceptional amount of mobility. I switched from lighting to this lava build and it’s so much smoother and feels so much better.
Can’t help but wonder if Skybreakers might be better than Splintered Elements. It would very much works on how many FS you can keep rolling but might be better overall damage, plus more Fire Elemental uptime will help keep those FS up.
Looks really fun but lightning build is probably just better, easier, and more consistent.
Get where u going, but gotta look at what gets the most damage during m+. Is FS on top? Or is lava beam spam and EQ on top?
The haste from Splintered is almost always better. It just enables you to go wild for 10 seconds. With the CDR on Prime Wave, it makes it even more worth it because you get that big haste window every 20 seconds or so in M+.
Now you can officially name yourself Zuko (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
I had a shaman named Roku once
Thanks Zuco.
Any chance we get an updated Enhace vid? It's been 4 weeks since your last Enh vid and things have changed a bit with minor buffs. Are you still main'ing Enhance too?
I'm still maining Enhance, yes. I'm probably not going to make another Enhance video for now, as I've already made quite a few. The recent buffs that came through about a week ago haven't really changed much in my eyes. Enhance is in a very strong position for M+ and Raid. It still has multiple build options and playstyles and it super fun to play! :)
I like this build a lot. Has the same vibe as ele in MoP. Is there any soft cap on haste?
There is in terms of getting it onto your gear and how effective that ends up being. Once you pass 25% Haste from gear it starts to become less and less worth it to get more. I would say a great amount to land on is 25-30%. Ele really thrives when it's got enough haste. :)
@@ZucoWoW yeah, that sounds about right. Would go for mastery over crit in this build?
@@Ennar I think so yeah... You're getting lots of free Crit from LB + FS... Buuuutttt, when in Ascendance, you gain extra damage based on Crit, so it's not entirely uselss
@@ZucoWoW thank you for the replies. Subbed :)
I never think that i will use ascendance cus its a huge 3 min cd. Now its really can be 1 min burst. Also i prefer fire build instead of lightnight. Love ur vids.
The video explains that it's a 2 min cd with a talent. Now you can spread aoe and funnel single target at the same time.
Would it be worth taking the point out of magma chamber and putting it in flame tongue weapon instead due to the majority of our dam being fire? Or is there a bug with that talent? Great vid Zuco! Liked 😊
Not a bug, but you can´t put gylphs from inscribes on weapons that are enhanced by flametongue weapon, so the net gain you get from the talent is lower as you might think.
Hey buddy good video! I had decided to main Ele and now I have a new build to try out. We will have to see how it compares to the Lightning build in terms of damage, but it does look like fun.
Sick!
Honestly the only Shaman spec I’ve consistently mained is Enhancement (I mained Elemental a little in MoP), but this is really making be want to main it for a tier in DF even though I’m married to Enhancement (even despite the nerf).
They will both be viable in Dragonflight, it's a good choice!
Currently using this build and WoW it’s good. Had an 100k pull yesterday at 359 ilvl.
Thanks for the content. I am maining Ele in a AOTC raid guild for the first time in DF. I think it is going to be a blast (pun intended lol)
just tried it, BEAMIN
Why not power of the maelstrom, weaving in lava surge procs can give your lava beams free stormkeeper procs,
It's not a bad idea at all. This was the first iteration of this build for me, so I gotta fiddle around with it and see what the best talent combos are.
sorry for the noob question , but what is the safest DPS meter to get ??
compare to demono lock which is easier to play?
Am I missing something ?? I don’t have enough talents points to match this as a level 60??
The build is for level 70.
In order to be able to reach 70, you must buy Dragonflight expansion.
I dont know why but my Ele still feels clunky to me, mainly throwing in Earthquake where you have to click it twice. Still going at it since its my alt but man it feels off to me still, may need more gear or something, who knows.
so they give us the option to share talent builds but we are not using it ?
the in game talents are in the video description now.
I mean how can you not play ele sham after watching this? Really? What are you going to main now that you’ve played em all?
I'm really torn. There are too many good specs heading into Dragonflight. The new talent tree system is such a game changer! :)
@@ZucoWoW haha I’ve gotten 9 classes from 1 to 60 in prepatch just to check everything out and i still can’t really choose
@@ewave9643 That's a wonderful dilemma to have!
Uuuugg...ive been using meatballs for 14 years...i was so happy that there was a spec that was mostly lightning bolt and rarely use lava burst unless lava surge procs. Buuut then they nerfed it :sadface
So yo udont think after shock beats out surge?
this build looks like a much more advanced build, but the damage isn't nearly as high as the lightning build :(
Good thing about shamen is the gameplay. Dmg is not really a thing to worry about. Both lightning and this are great fun to play. Stop looking at ur dmg details and u will enjoy it more :)
@@Slippy82 I entirely agree. I just feel like the more difficult builds should reward some extra dps.
Over the simple builds.
It will be there, I promise. This was my first time trying it out. I'm not playing 100% optimally. This is a competitive build for M+. :)
You didn't link the build 😞
It's up now :)
I think.aftershock makes more sense than surge of power here
I just hate Icefury, if I am being honest. I know it's a pipe dream but I wish there were three builds within Elemental which were all viable. Two which are specifically for Lightning and Fire as well as a hybrid Icefury build.
It's just such a drag that they've essentially forced it in to Lightning.
I end up mostly using icefury to get 50 maelstrom for earth skills, or to slow enemies
Unless something has changed on the beta i was able to keep ascendence up for the full 2 minutes lol on five target dummies
tried to import but wow reports its from an older build :(
Hmm, ok I'll try it again in a bit.
Try this. Let me know if it doesn't work: BYQAfcj78nJtvjmejSqe5Zhm9AAAAAAg0SrUSSLJgQSLpFOQTCBAAAAAAUCgSSIFRBIJJtUChkAB
@@ZucoWoW that works perfectly, thank you
Isn't it a waste double casting EQ like that? You're wasting a proc of SoP, arent you?
you get more value with this build getting the 3.5 sec of ascendance uptime from each earthquake than burning 1 SoP
Yes looks cool , but the dmg is not there . And no u cant run whatever u want coz u wont be invited in a pug , if u have a grp going or a guild yes sure other wise NOT . Pug life True story >.< . Hope Im wrong too ...
With respect, you are wrong. I've ran all kinds of Enhancement/Ele builds in season 3 and 4 with pugs. Yes my que time was longer. At times it was frustrating, but, once I got my m+ rating higher, that's all people cared about. I got invited to lots of keys after that. The damage of this build will be incredible. :)