When this first came out, I didn't think it was necessary as I was already doing this thru templates in my daw. But after finally getting it working, I would not want to be without it, as an ultimate user.😁🎶🎹🎶Play On
Since 1978, I went from non-midi hardware synths to midi synths, to 20+ years of "workstations". I dropped workstation's in favor of software synths and master controller. While I still own a boatload of software synths, I recently revamped my setup based on Montage M8x. I still use and love Omnisphere, Diva, Hive, Zebra and Arturia V, but the immediacy of the new UI and controls of the Montage M8x coupled with the poly aftertouch has me actually playing versus endless menus diving and too many software options. I might have been more creative with a Dyno-My-Rhodes, MS-20 and Oberheim OBXa than to 5000x+ options I have today
I have Roland Cloud, and I own the Juno 60, SH-101, 808, TB-303, System 100, and 909 VST's (all of which I got as rewards for years of having paid for my pro membership on the cloud). I'm really, REALLY tempted to spring for a Juno X... but I'm trying to decide whether the immediacy created by having the actual hardware box is worth the $1700 a new Juno X will cost. I'm not a keyboard player, so I basically use the Ableton Push to "play" these synths (I DO have a fair knowledge of music theory, so I'm able to finish tracks without being a keyboard player). I'm just really, really hung on this decision. If Roland made desktop versions of the Juno and Jupiter, there's no question I'd be all over that (and I don't mean the boutiques - I'm talking a full desktop version with the multi-timbrality, full polyphony, etc.) Anyway, another banging video - thanks, Starsky!
Juno X is software with knobs, i had a Jupiter X. Sold it. It's too much money for a controller. You will double your sound, why should you. And after 2 years Roland doesn't Care about further software updates. But just let your heart decide.
Love your reviews and videos - both informative and funny to watch. One thing - I noticed that you said a real Jupiter-4 have no sub oscillator but I think you really meant that a real Jupiter-4 only have a on/off switch for the sub and not a level control for the sub as the ACB model have. Around 20:10 in the video. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Sweden! 😃
Bro it's been a month i still don't get what this is for. Didn't Zenology already had a GIU and FX section? Yup it couldn't stack synths but any DAW could do it. Just use two or more tracks. RIght? Legitimately confused here.
its a standalone app.. so you get the cloud synths without having to use your DAW. Good if you're playing live etc. if you only use a DAW then maybe its not for you. There are loads of Fantom player out there.. this gives some of the Fantom style stacking experience without having to buy the synth.
@@StarskyCarrahhh! i forgot that Roland never had standalone version! My old memory... IT's funny coz Korg and Arturia included standalone versions by default, so i thought Roland followed suit. Got it now! Thanks
Plugin developers working hard to remove all aliasing.. users come along and use a bit-crusher effect 🤷♂ (Joke alert.. I also added a bit-crusher in my plugin)
Certainly not bad. Unfortunately, you will never own it because it only works via a subscription model. And even with the things that you can buy with a lifetime key, you still need a regular internet connection, otherwise the purchased software synths will no longer work after 30 days. The idea behind the Roland Cloud is fantastic and it's actually a Roland dream come true that you have everything Roland has ever had on your computer. But the Roland Cloud can be absolute hell and a nightmare.
They should make a flagship MPC killer. Analog or ACB out of the box but extra option for Zencore and cloud. MV-XL with features from 707,Tr8s,Gaia and Sh4D. I think people whould be really excited for that.
Will it matter in a mixdown? Can the average schmoe tell the difference? Probably not. HOWEVER... I can definitely hear the difference in between the Jupiter-4 and the Roland Cloud version. Maybe it's because I've spent nearly 30 years producing electronic music? The Roland Cloud version is definitely a slightly more bright and 'digital' sounding - albeit *very* close. I'd personally prefer having a Jupiter-4 (I'll settle for my Jupiter-6) because it's more hands on and you don't have to faff about mapping a controller to the Roland Cloud version. I'm confident there will be a time when synth software will be indistinguishable from the hardware it emulates. We're very close, but I'm still not sure we're quite there *yet* but that time is very near.
This one doesn't sound as exact as the SH101 Juno ACBs - but then every voice on my JP4 sounds slightly different anyway. I think they're so close the only real difference is the interface and maintenance costs :)
@@StarskyCarr oh for sure. If you own an old synth you have to be prepared to be able to afford to maintain it. All of my studio has been gone over by my tech so it should be good for the next ten years or so, but I know that by owning old synths there's a cost involved... Not to mention the real estate they take up.
Looks alright. Here’s the thing though - I have 9 lifetime keys from just buying one offs and a couple of years of play 4 life subscription. Am I allowed to use this with just the stuff I own? Apparently not. Ps Merry Christmas! Hope you had a good one!
i'm curious that there seems to be no Roland JX-8P nor it's doppelgänger the Roland Super JX-10 (although the JX-8P would be sufficient given you could probably add more voices) ...
Arturia V collection doesn’t include all synths available in Roland Cloud, none of the drum machines. And the yearly upgrade to V collection is 200. I have a ton of Arturia products and they still ask 150 for the recent upgrade. And there are just two new synths. Though I agree that 200 is a not exactly cheap. Just noting that long term V collection is not much cheaper.
How is the CPU on the Roland cloud stuff nowadays? When they came out they would chew through a lot of CPU when idle. Same as when at full tilt actually. Has that improved? Especially on Apple silicon?
anyone know of a good video on how to slave softsynths/vst to the Arturia(like his)? The Arturia videos are horrible and assume a person has a basic understanding of the process and a basic understanding of a DAW(I can make a Tascam 488 dance). Im assuming its not in DOS. ..: )
I was the same about subs at first then I realised how much I’d spent on plugins. Subs have saved me money and I’ve got access to everything. The time I’ve saved by not deliberating over new purchases is probably worth it alone!
I love roland cloud. Even the concept of the subscription. Every now and then i need the pallete of sounds from roland. so i subscribe for a month or so. After using the shit out of the cloud, i cancel my subscription. Its like going to a guitar center and lending all the synths they have for a month or two. The Pricing is ridiculous low if you think about it. Their constant development and adding new content and features to the cloud, is top notch. And hey iam not a roland fanboy. Thank for this great review.
Cool but I can t get off my head the rudeness of the offer. I d just pay it upfront, no strings attached. Because after a while it sounds like an unwanted marriage. Anyway thx for the video and HNY mate
When many of the original Roland gear came out synthesis was the sound of the future, new and exciting. Now, sadly it's about monetising the past, an endless nostalgia fest. I would love Roland to concentrate on creating something new and exciting but it seems it's not so lucrative anymore.
I'm repeating myself over and over again : I want the System 16 (Hardware) Synth from Roland... With 16 Voices and all ACB models 😊
Jupiter x is pretty much what Roland have you instead.
@@Curious_Skeptic no Jupiter X is Zen core, S8 is ACB. 2 diff things
When this first came out, I didn't think it was necessary as I was already doing this thru templates in my daw. But after finally getting it working, I would not want to be without it, as an ultimate user.😁🎶🎹🎶Play On
Since 1978, I went from non-midi hardware synths to midi synths, to 20+ years of "workstations". I dropped workstation's in favor of software synths and master controller. While I still own a boatload of software synths, I recently revamped my setup based on Montage M8x. I still use and love Omnisphere, Diva, Hive, Zebra and Arturia V, but the immediacy of the new UI and controls of the Montage M8x coupled with the poly aftertouch has me actually playing versus endless menus diving and too many software options.
I might have been more creative with a Dyno-My-Rhodes, MS-20 and Oberheim OBXa than to 5000x+ options I have today
I have Roland Cloud, and I own the Juno 60, SH-101, 808, TB-303, System 100, and 909 VST's (all of which I got as rewards for years of having paid for my pro membership on the cloud). I'm really, REALLY tempted to spring for a Juno X... but I'm trying to decide whether the immediacy created by having the actual hardware box is worth the $1700 a new Juno X will cost. I'm not a keyboard player, so I basically use the Ableton Push to "play" these synths (I DO have a fair knowledge of music theory, so I'm able to finish tracks without being a keyboard player). I'm just really, really hung on this decision. If Roland made desktop versions of the Juno and Jupiter, there's no question I'd be all over that (and I don't mean the boutiques - I'm talking a full desktop version with the multi-timbrality, full polyphony, etc.) Anyway, another banging video - thanks, Starsky!
Juno X is software with knobs, i had a Jupiter X. Sold it. It's too much money for a controller.
You will double your sound, why should you. And after 2 years Roland doesn't Care about further software updates. But just let your heart decide.
I’ve enjoyed every minute of owning the Juno X. It’s a very inspiring synth also, having 4 parts. I was in a similar junction, as I have Cloud.
I’ve been waiting for your review. I think it’s amazing, and am really working forward to DAW hosting!
Excellent overview. I think this is great for those who love the roland sound 👍
BSG for the win. OG kicks it for sure and the 4K version of the movie is outstanding
Very cool concept!
Not sure how I should feel about this as an owner of both a D50 and a maxed out XV5080. On the upside they don't have a subscription fee :)
Love your reviews and videos - both informative and funny to watch.
One thing - I noticed that you said a real Jupiter-4 have no sub oscillator but I think you really meant that a real Jupiter-4 only have a on/off switch for the sub and not a level control for the sub as the ACB model have. Around 20:10 in the video.
Keep up the good work. Cheers from Sweden! 😃
Duh yeah!
Bro it's been a month i still don't get what this is for. Didn't Zenology already had a GIU and FX section? Yup it couldn't stack synths but any DAW could do it. Just use two or more tracks. RIght? Legitimately confused here.
its a standalone app.. so you get the cloud synths without having to use your DAW. Good if you're playing live etc. if you only use a DAW then maybe its not for you. There are loads of Fantom player out there.. this gives some of the Fantom style stacking experience without having to buy the synth.
@@StarskyCarrahhh! i forgot that Roland never had standalone version! My old memory... IT's funny coz Korg and Arturia included standalone versions by default, so i thought Roland followed suit. Got it now! Thanks
Plugin developers working hard to remove all aliasing.. users come along and use a bit-crusher effect 🤷♂ (Joke alert.. I also added a bit-crusher in my plugin)
VST3 support is crucial
Certainly not bad. Unfortunately, you will never own it because it only works via a subscription model. And even with the things that you can buy with a lifetime key, you still need a regular internet connection, otherwise the purchased software synths will no longer work after 30 days. The idea behind the Roland Cloud is fantastic and it's actually a Roland dream come true that you have everything Roland has ever had on your computer. But the Roland Cloud can be absolute hell and a nightmare.
So this is essentially the Jupiter x editor but with the addition of legendary synths?
They should make a flagship MPC killer. Analog or ACB out of the box but extra option for Zencore and cloud. MV-XL with features from 707,Tr8s,Gaia and Sh4D. I think people whould be really excited for that.
how is that "mpc killer" different from the current mc-707?
Will it matter in a mixdown? Can the average schmoe tell the difference? Probably not.
HOWEVER... I can definitely hear the difference in between the Jupiter-4 and the Roland Cloud version. Maybe it's because I've spent nearly 30 years producing electronic music? The Roland Cloud version is definitely a slightly more bright and 'digital' sounding - albeit *very* close. I'd personally prefer having a Jupiter-4 (I'll settle for my Jupiter-6) because it's more hands on and you don't have to faff about mapping a controller to the Roland Cloud version.
I'm confident there will be a time when synth software will be indistinguishable from the hardware it emulates. We're very close, but I'm still not sure we're quite there *yet* but that time is very near.
This one doesn't sound as exact as the SH101 Juno ACBs - but then every voice on my JP4 sounds slightly different anyway. I think they're so close the only real difference is the interface and maintenance costs :)
@@StarskyCarr oh for sure.
If you own an old synth you have to be prepared to be able to afford to maintain it. All of my studio has been gone over by my tech so it should be good for the next ten years or so, but I know that by owning old synths there's a cost involved... Not to mention the real estate they take up.
The Roland Cloud is a nightmare. Avoid.
Looks alright.
Here’s the thing though - I have 9 lifetime keys from just buying one offs and a couple of years of play 4 life subscription.
Am I allowed to use this with just the stuff I own? Apparently not.
Ps Merry Christmas! Hope you had a good one!
i'm curious that there seems to be no Roland JX-8P nor it's doppelgänger the Roland Super JX-10 (although the JX-8P would be sufficient given you could probably add more voices) ...
So I have the free demo of it but it's not pulling up any sounds and it's not pulling up in mpc live2 so it's kinda a let down
What can Galaxias do what Unify, Mainstage, Gigperformer etc. can't?
$200 per year? Gonna have to be a hard pass. It makes Arturia V seem like a bargain, even at full price.
Getting a lifetime key for all of the synths and drum machines costs over $3000.
Arturia V collection doesn’t include all synths available in Roland Cloud, none of the drum machines. And the yearly upgrade to V collection is 200. I have a ton of Arturia products and they still ask 150 for the recent upgrade. And there are just two new synths. Though I agree that 200 is a not exactly cheap. Just noting that long term V collection is not much cheaper.
@@jetxeeArturia is still better, more variety and you get a drum machine with it called Spark 2.
How is the CPU on the Roland cloud stuff nowadays? When they came out they would chew through a lot of CPU when idle. Same as when at full tilt actually. Has that improved? Especially on Apple silicon?
Still heavy on the ACB, but not as heavy as it used to be, so it's good that you can use the Zencore models if you're not pushing the tone.
Can I use my Korg Triton Extreme as a keabord for this Roland Galaxias?😮
Yes… that’s one MASSIVE synth!
@@StarskyCarr thanks😃
Not flexin’ 😂😂😂
will you be able to buy this outright or is suscription only?
It’s sub only as you need access to all the synths in the ultimate sub.
anyone know of a good video on how to slave softsynths/vst to the Arturia(like his)? The Arturia videos are horrible and assume a person has a basic understanding of the process and a basic understanding of a DAW(I can make a Tascam 488 dance). Im assuming its not in DOS. ..: )
Hi ! You can work or used it in your daw with galaxias?
No, it's standalone only at the moment.
VST3 and AU support is now available as of GALAXIAS 1.1.2.
Lot of bad feeling about subscription. Unfortunately for Roland no matter how good it is.
I was the same about subs at first then I realised how much I’d spent on plugins. Subs have saved me money and I’ve got access to everything. The time I’ve saved by not deliberating over new purchases is probably worth it alone!
@@StarskyCarrGood point. Or painstakingly waiting for sales. UVI have a great subscription too, drop in / out anytime.
I love roland cloud. Even the concept of the subscription. Every now and then i need the pallete of sounds from roland. so i subscribe for a month or so. After using the shit out of the cloud, i cancel my subscription. Its like going to a guitar center and lending all the synths they have for a month or two. The Pricing is ridiculous low if you think about it. Their constant development and adding new content and features to the cloud, is top notch. And hey iam not a roland fanboy. Thank for this great review.
Cool but I can t get off my head the rudeness of the offer. I d just pay it upfront, no strings attached. Because after a while it sounds like an unwanted marriage. Anyway thx for the video and HNY mate
Fyi you can purchase lifetime keys for individual roland instruments. Not sure about galaxias.
When many of the original Roland gear came out synthesis was the sound of the future, new and exciting. Now, sadly it's about monetising the past, an endless nostalgia fest.
I would love Roland to concentrate on creating something new and exciting but it seems it's not so lucrative anymore.