@@binarystar300 I think it's because the mainstream Dems didn't realize until the aftermath of January 6 just how bad the political climate was gonna get. This is basically their last chance to finally pull a Macron.
Capitalism as politics: dancing on the knife edge of maxing out returns for your investors (err, "donors"), while pissing off your own constituents just enough to delight the donors, but not so much as to lose elections. There's a reason the margins are always razor thin!
I’m sure! This makes religious families very happy. It takes funds away from public schools, some that are already hurting for funds. So Christian and Hebrew parents (for instance) are getting school breaks regardless of their income. To pay a portion of their tuition that isn’t under the same scrutiny as public schools are. They don’t have to hire teachers with the same education or qualifications as teachers in public schools do. Some teachers in private school may not have much more than a high school diploma. They might be attending college but no way would they get hired as a teacher in a public school. A teachers aid or assist. maybe. Also, private schools can pick and choose who they want to let in and who they want to kick out. This could be problematic if they don’t have to prove wrongdoing on the child or parents part. They just simply decided to shut the kid out. There’s a lot wrong with using public funds intended for public use directed towards private expenditure.
Normal people aren't going to care about this. You're in a bubble. The extremely online left just looks for reasons to lose. They're going to find a reason to not vote no matter what.
The younkin argument hasn’t aged well. High stakes testing and disingenuous rhetoric have been used to scapegoat public education while denying real societal factors. They all claim competition will make the system better while simultaneously draining resources from these very same schools. Profits over people leads to greater oligarchical entrenchment.
Dems picking the most divisive candidate in Shapiro in order to please donors. I'm sure that won't backfire. It's not like they JUST saw first-hand this very same strategy backfire for Trump in picking J.D. Vance to please Musk and Peter Thiel. I swear, the staff around Harris (the exact same people who advised Biden into his debate) must be totally cut off from anything outside their little bubble. They vaguely heard rumors that Harris was popular with Gen-Z on Tik-Tok, but they never stopped to wonder why that is, or how important that is to her success.
He's not divisive. You're in a bubble. The extremely online left just looks for reasons to lose. They're going to find a reason to not vote no matter what.
@@bizygirl1 Some, but not at the numbers you think. Only a small percentage of students give a shit about Gaza and more concerned about abortion rights and stopping Trump. You listed Jews? Are you really that ignorant? Shapiro is a Jew.
It would for me. After some hard debate with myself, I decided I would not vote for Biden because of his stance on the Palestinian genocide. Yes, even with project 2025 looming. That's how despicable a job Joe did with Palestine. If she picks Shapiro, that decision not to vote will go back to what it was, pre-Kamala. IMO, Shapiro's stance against dissent IN AMERICA against the israel settlement and the unjust persecution of the Palestinian genocide protestors, again, IN AMERICA is unconstitutional. He shouldn't be allowed to hold office, let alone be VP.
I'm pragmatic about doing whatever it takes to win this election, but of first time donors to Kamala, the top two groups were nurses & teachers. I hope Kamala's team can read the room.
That's really my only concern atm as well. The Republicans are busy incinerating their chances of winning as best they can. The nightmare would be screwing it up with garbage neoliberal strategy.
Re: Shapiro - popping up in my feed writing by Shapiro which unequivocally states "Palestinians could not live in peace with Jews". He is overtly anti-Palestinian. Please do what you can to track this down + get it to Harris campaign in case they're not aware.
As a Pennsylvanian, I've been concerned with Shapiro's school choice stance since his campaign. Thank God we have real progressives in our state assembly that shut it down (for now). How anyone thinks giving our tax money to private schools is a good idea is beyond me!
We have the same struggle in NC . They are intentionally trying to defund our public schools and give vouchers to the already well off and the church. Educate for citizenship, yes. The private schools send all the difficult kids away and then try to act like they have better metrics than public.
The attempts to undermine and abandon public-schools have done shocking damage to our ability to have an effective, competent society. Yet, they're completely unbothered that the collapse of social cohesion isn't going to work out well for business in the long-term.
Jennifer's comment about how some people view hierarchy is right on the money. We all know that there will always be people trying to make a mad dash for power, willing to do anything to get it and keep it, just as there will always be people who never rise to their full potential no matter how much intervention is done. The difference between us is that some people believe the preservation of power in the "right" hands is what makes a moral world. Progressives (should) see power not as a finite resource for the righteous to use but as an infinite, collective resource we all can access and share to make the world even better.
@@track1949 yeh and he covered up a murder for his rich Jewish buddy...not sure how a suicide can have 5 stab wounds including one in the back of the head....
Shapiro's brief tenure is why I want him to stay put. My daughter, her husband, and my youngest sister live in Pennsylvania. They need Shapiro to at least finish out his first term.
Whatever happened to Common Core? My daughter lives & works in Philadelphia. She teaches math at a public charter high school. She was hoping a core curriculum would be pursued. Within the large numbers of elementary & middle schools in Philly, math education is uneven. The state requirements in math proficiency in order to graduate high school are strict. Every school year, there are students who need intense help catching up to their peers. I know that local control is almost idolized, especially on the right; however, local control in dozens of small districts too often brings about unequal educational outcomes.
A great conversation and her last statement of fighting over scraps is the key imo. I think the out of control greed in our country, society, and world for that matter has conned so many people out there to believing that survival of the fittest is the way to go. I've had so many discussions with people in my life about why people want to be rich. I've tried to express that anyone who works and makes an honest living knows it's hard to get rich without exploitation of other people but I almost always get push back. No one wants to seriously look at how the sausage is made in terms of getting rich. The dismantling of the education system and the blaming of the system for all the greed driven problems in our society today is just another way the Greedy shady sons a you knows are trying to exploit and rule the American people.
Philadelphia Inquirer - Josh Shapiro 1993 college writing saying, "Palestinians are too battle-minded to live in peace" or something like that. No Shapiro!
@@dl2725 A renouncement of that is just as good as a youtube apology video to me. As far as I'm concerned he is already radioactive, she picks him I will make sure to vote uncommitted not just on the top of the ticket but down ballot as well. The party has fucked around enough in the past and I will ask others to do the same if Josh Shapiro is picked.
Shawn Fain came out against Shapiro and Kelly and for Beshear or Walz. So add union labor to youth, Uncommitted, public education advocates, women (and men) grossed out by sexual harassment, etc. This guy has so many negatives he makes Tim Kaine look like a genius pick.
I want Buttigig or Walz. I think Shapiro would be a really bad choice! Especially after that article came out about his previous aid. While he may not have been involved, Trump will spin it. Not to mention, she’s been focused on women’s rights and having this Shapiro aid issue would look bad. And while Trump has no leg to stand on, it could turn into some saying neither candidate is worth it. I also think Josh and Andy are best in their seats. Kelly shouldn’t be removed because he’s a sitting D senator from a state that could easily replace him with R. Further he’s very pro oil and terrible on climate change. And given the new climate report that just came out, he’s the last thing we need as VP. Idc if he was an astronaut, (cool career brah) that has nothing to do with policy. JB Peziker is a billionaire venture capitalist from the Hyatt family. We’ve already had a “billionaire” as president and we saw how that went. Even if he’s better than a Cheeto, it’s still not a good idea.
I know that the media hype around Shapiro is going wild right now, but I’m sorry I cannot take this dude seriously. He tries to sound like Obama, and that is just way too lame. MAGA will relentlessly point how phony that is on the daily, as they should. It’s nonsense.
yikes. if "debundled" schools existed in the rural, religious, poor place where i grew up in that midwest, I'm afraid i would have been forever in that impoverished, awful place. education was my one way to reach beyond those circumstances. I'm afraid my parents would have chosen education courses mostly based on religious ideas, and some hodgepodge of other courses to fill in the gaps. my parents were willingly or circumstantially clueless in so many ways.
Yet another tremendously important reason that Josh Shapiro CANNOT be the VP on this ticket. And all the more reason that Tim Walz MUST be the VP on this ticket.
I can see my daughter suffer so much in Public School based on the common core and standardized testing has made her life hell especially with all the focus on Math and Science it is overkill
2 points: 1. The GOP hasn’t forgotten what value public education brings. They want indoctrination from a young age and they’re not getting the purity of indoctrination they need for social control. 2. ROI isn’t just neo-liberal it’s a reality. Education is far too expensive to justify a 40K teaching job with no pension and one that requires each teacher to provide their students with supplies. ROI is CRITICAL and needs to be a factor to be considered as “cultural cohesion” and “honor” don’t pay bills or build retirement savings.
"I don't want an educated populace. I want obedient workers. Just smart enough to push the buttons, too stupid to know how bad they're getting screwed!" G Carlin. Ad-lib of John D. Rockefeller.
Nationalize public education. The successes of the American district funding model are an "in spite of" deal and not "because of" and its fundamental weakness, especially on the world stage, will continue to be made increasingly evident as things like income inequality grow. School nationalization should be a plank issue for any self-respecting progressive going forward.
Part of the campaign for debt free public money instead of a private corporation creating debt bearing private money loaned to member banks, financial interests, and the very wealthy as its 'first use' (along with 'fractional reserve' multiplication of those loans), is that National Public Education Funding would be one of the 'first uses' of money created and introduced into the economy. Not a 'trickle down' form of monetary policy that give 'first use' of new money created to banks/financial interests.
2:27 You can’t evaluate teachers without first evaluating the IQs of the students. Think about football recruits going into college. You give the best recruits to the poorest colleges with unheralded head coaches and staff then you’d see how good the coaches (“teachers”) really are.
Some people have pointed out non-conservative public schools have the benefit of a superior public education system. I am just limited to the urban vs small town. They are fair and lean right and they say that in order to get the same level of education you have to send them to private school which is not within reach to pretty much any family in income as well as supply. Im not sure but that is a big thing for parents. Its not consistent across the state city and local which is why I mention it is a systemic issue. Very interesting Also, Im sure most of these private schools are not affordable and the classroom or student:teacher ratio and selective process makes them out of reach. Plus parents dont want to go drive to the other side of the city. So there are few in quantity and even with financial assistance there are not enough because they focus on elite education where they are focused on college acceptance. There are students who may not feel 4 years of studying a college major is a good tradeoff for the tuition and we have way more areas of online learning or occupational stuff than 20 years ago. So you have this gap Like she says, it is more important for parents to have a better public education high school and under school system that doesnt cater to one type of family Also, Im referring to people I know living in Texas who are republican. I say this because it speaks to the opinion that many republicans observe in the lack of the quality of education (the content of study is a lesser concern) quality to them has to do with how effective the teacher is able to teach ect.. Anyways, just a comment The people that are effect are both utban and suburban. Suburban in that there are so many students and too little options and urban being mainly affordability. Privatization of education isnt what these parents want nor do they think is a necessity. also, issues of what is taught in school is more or less not a statewide issue it has to do with the local board and not the system 12:07 Sam understands it I personally feel other people are light years ahead of the traditional school system. I cant put my brain around it but its like some people are stuck on rigid teaching methods vs teaching vouchers and that causes students to lag behind or what bush said “left behind”
@~9:45, "the fact that we have public education in this country in the first place, because of that vision of equality." I don't think equality was what they had in mind when they first set up *SEGREGATED SCHOOLS*
As an Aussie I don't know much about your politics, political machinations etc - just see it thru a detached and jaundiced perspective BUT I can tell you I'm not impressed with Shapiro😱😱😱 he's WAY TOO SLICK, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. His slick hair, tailored suits, (perfect) Obama-esque style of debate and delivery just give me MASSIVE snake oil salesman vibes🤢🥴🤔
Doesn't matter. People will have to suck it up, unless they want trump again. This education stuff is similar to what Obama was all about. It's not a big deal
@@idkwhybut... My pick would be Tim Walz, he's a bit rustic, homespun and proven to be a good campsigner, and a good achiever of political wins in a hostile state environment. Delivering many landmark projects and programs in health education and welfare, ALL democratic talking points. He's a great orator for the messages Kamala wants to put out there, approachable, appealling to the wid e public and dedicated to the cause. He's in the right demografics to complement Kamala and would appeal greatly to all the rural, regional people in the farming, forrestry, mining states. If I could wisper in Ms Harris's ear I would say 'pick Tim'😂🤣😂🤣
As it stands currently in pa, students can attend cyber schools and the cost per pupil is subtracted from the district where the student resides. In many urban settings there are secular charter schools. You correctly identify the issue as an attempt to break with precedent and have the government fund religious education.
I think Shapiro would tank the campaign's momentum. It's a very depressing thought. Walz would unite everyone and electrify the campaign. I have my fingers crossed for a Harris/Walz ticket.
The characterization of voucher programs is mostly right, but this is a misrepresentation of the whole story with Shapiro. He had a proposal for a voucher system in a budget last year. PA is a split state with some some hardball Republicans and he was trying to deal with them. After the teacher's union protested, he struck it from the bill, and didn't have it in this year's budget, which added 1.1 billion dollars for public school funding, including breakfast for all K-12 students.
Wake up to reality! Nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world. The longer you live, the more you realize that the only things that truly exist in this reality are merely pain. suffering and futility. Listen, everywhere you look in this world, wherever there is light, there will always be shadows to be found as well. As long as there is a concept of victors, the vanquished will also exist. The selfish intent of wanting to preserve peace, initiates war. and hatred is born in order to protect love. There are nexuses causal relationships that cannot be separated.
Parents need to step up and do most of the educating of their own children. The public education system will only give children the basics so they can become worker bees. The pandemic revealed the lack of parental participation in educating children. Most students fell behind during that time because parents did not step up to make sure that their child learned what they needed to learn in order to advance to the next grade.
Disagree. He's a good guy but isn't a good communicator and comes across as an old school politician in every way. He won't energize young people, who are fueling the current surge for Kamala. By contrast, social media is in love with Walz.
If pro-Genocide Josh is on the ticket, Palestine is doomed either way. A lot of people me included will feel hopeless. Greed triumphs over empathy yet again...
Election or not, please don't let this stop you from aiding Palestinian families and medical facilities, one dollar of yours infinitely matters more than however much the media and Harris admin is paid by AIPAC and the Zionists.
So, if you need Shapiro for Penn, but realize that vouchers signal the destruction of public education and equality for all students, what do you do? Do you put him on the ticket hoping that no one will vote for Trump just because Shapiro is on the ticket? Or do you pick someone who believes in public education and risk the election?
You all act like Shapiro will be President, if she picks him he could, like Harris did, learn from the President. Trump picking Vance will not cause Maga to not vote for Trump. Democrats are ready to throw Harris over the clif if she doesn't pick their choice. There will never be a perfect ticket, but there is always the alternative or just stay home and see what happens to all of us if Trump wins.
Shapiro is not my first choice, but it should be made clear that abstaining from voting or voting third party doesn't "make a statement" at least not one that's heard. Democracy is not a business where making more money is always beneficial thereby empowering consumers to boycott; it's about getting 50% + 1 of the votes in each state. If you don't vote for one of the two main parties (yes, it sucks that we have only two), your voice is silent, not missed. Please keep this in mind if your favorite choice for VP is not selected in the next few days.💙
participating in an evil system doesn't make it less evil. if it takes losing more elections before they adopt left positions, then i guess maybe the Democrats are stupid enough to keep on ignoring left voters until they get tired of losing so often. outcomes of elections are not going to stop me from voting my conscience.
The Green Party has totally failed because they have never built from bottom up. They’ve been running presidential races since the 1990s with zero gain. They could have run numbers of candidates for down ballot seats they could actually win to influence policy instead, but they keep repeating the same mistake decade after decade.
Shapiro on the ticket may very well cost them my vote. This is just all so obvious that if Kamala can't get this right it will make me wonder about everything else.
Let's face it, they're going to pick Shapiro. However remember that Obama and Biden were opposites on the Iraq war. So from her perspective winning PA is the first step towards enacting policy. And he has to get in line with her policies. She didn't have a choice with Biden either.
Picking Shapiro would only make a bad situation worse. But with or without Shapiro, Harris ain't going nowhere. But hey, she's not Donald Trump. That's literally all that matters, right?
I am half way into the podcast and have not yet heard the term “teacher’s union”. I HATE the idea of my tax dollars being paid to a religious school. But I hate more any child being trapped in a system that does not provide an adequate education because unqualified teachers cannot be let go to find a job they are better suited for. Yes, rich people can use vouchers, but most people are not rich, and the less well- off people really get the most out of school choice. I don’t understand why the good teachers, who are a super-majority, don’t defend and promote the public school system by enabling the system to be parents’ first choice.
The less well off people can’t afford to send their kids to the private schools even with the vouchers. It just traps them with schools that are even more underfunded.
@@bevtaylor5466 If any parent can find a way to make it work, I support them. And by definition, that is what they have decided is best for their child. If the public school does not want to lose the funding, it can improve itself. This entire podcast (I did listen to the end) did not mention the teacher's union. Therefore, it did not begin to truly address the issue.
Shapiro was included in the process because PA is perhaps the central swing state and he’s popular here. Given the series of news stories that have surfaced lately about him and the fact that the Democratic Party knows Shapiro will be an odds on favorite to win re-election in 2026 - preventing PA from going full MAGA - I can’t see him being the pick. Kelly - a much more robust resume - or Walz - blue collar and relatable - are far better choices. I’m not thrilled in every way with Shapiro. I’m a teacher here in the Philly suburbs and while Shapiro is a FAR better option than Mastriano was, he’s at best far less harmful to unions and public education than the MAGA movement. That’s not saying much but given the alternative in PA politics is very much like to keep Shapiro as governor until 2031.
Even better, no Shapiro as VP and he is replaced as PA's governor. All well before 2031 cause fuck that shit, someone else can do the job, get that fuck head outta power.
But you’re defending the integrity of public schools where, in California, only 1/3 of the students meet basic math and reading standards! The public school system is a money machine: the education-industrial complex is feeding vast special interests but not really capable of educating children in many places.
Anyone but Pete Buttigieg taps the brakes on Harris’ momentum. Aside from Harris, who might have won the nomination had the Democrats had a real primary this past winter/spring?
Conservatives liking him is not helping his case here. Unless you want the Dems to continue having shit people in power. We already have enough to remove from the Dems why add more. Before you mention conservatives will vote for Dems then they wont, all the Dems would end up doing is fucking their chances of winning the election with having a pro Israel VP as is Harris is already on shaky ground when it comes to the folks who are very against Israel, from swing states and on. Myself included here as is I'm already thinking on voting uncommitted because of Harris's doing the same song and dance as Biden when it comes to Israel. All she did was a very small rhetoric change.
False. In 2012 there was some concessions to R's in funding some programs, by 2014 they were taking it apart: What’s Obama’s Problem With School Choice? By GOV. BOBBY JINDAL and GOV. SCOTT WALKER POLITICO July 08, 2014 Updated July 09, 2014
I must have missed where the vice president runs the White House. Guy will abandon his more right wing position like Kamala has abandoned her more left wing ones.
So Josh Shapiro's vouchers versus getting rid of the Department of Education and we need to wake up to reality really Sam. Are you sure it is not his stance on Israel that TMR has a problem with and disguising it as education.
I honestly like all of them, but if Shapiro would being PA that's the key thing and he is very pop there. he had to govern with a Republican senate, Walz didn't have that limitation. I don't think shapiro has any different position on Israel from most Dems, people on the Left act like he is a Netanyahu fan or something. It does smack a bit of not wanting a Jew on the ticket, unless it's Saint Bernard of course.
The fuck? The dislike for Shapiro is do to many issue with him but his support for Israel is fucked, hell anyone giving any support of Israel is extremely fucked. Dems should pick someone else or else the uncommitted votes will be there in swing states and otherwise and I will do whatever I can to have others do the same. So Dems should choose wisely I'm unemployed and very motivated.
There is no certainty that he can bring Pennsylvania and he has multiple cases of negative baggage that drags the campaign down. Walz is the candidate who can keep the momentum going and has none of the negatives.
@@michelleisaacson6069 they should learn their lesson from Biden. "Oh, not voting for Biden is voting for Trump. Lesser of two evils." The voters don't give a fuck. Give us a shit candidate and we will not show up.
Voting third party has the same effect as not voting. All it does is let whoever votes D or R pick the president for you, with you having no voice in it. As a lifelong independent voter, I am critical of both parties, but recognize that right now the R party is dangerous with Project 2025 on the table. They try to deny it, but if you look at the red states, you can see the policies already being legislated. I really don’t want to live in an authoritarian theocracy that interferes in what should be personal decisions. So however we feel about D, it would be smart to vote them in until we head off this danger. Put D in office until we can work out a better system.
Well that's stupid. I think he's a terrible choice and seeing Harris already pivoting to more moderate policies is disheartening, but any other vote is a vote for Trump
The VP doesn't set the policy- the POTUS does that. If she picks Shapiro, please don't let it scare y'all off so much. It's just a strategy thing for this election (which I don't agree with.) I want Tim Walz. But I'll happily vote Kamala 2024 no matter who she picks to keep democracy going so we can improve it over time.
@michelleisaacson6069 Yeah, the polls said Hillary was going to win and we saw how that turned out. If Kamala is even half as smart as she’s supposed to be she’ll pick Walz to keep her momentum going, not Shapiro to drag her down.
Hope they don't pick him, but the Dems could F up the recipe for ice.
If picking him guarantees us Pennsylvania it's not the worst thing ever but he is like my fifth choice.
@@Stockhandle123 True, but he comes with a lot of baggage.
There's been leaks looks like it's him
@@Stockhandle123but for starters does it even guarantee Pennsylvania? This show had s good analysis that that’s not necessarily the case anymore
The Dems are champions of fucking up...because they paid to be.
Pelosi is backing Walz, sounds too good to be true. 🤞 Shapiro would really put the brakes on the Harris momentum.
Look into what Nancy Pelosi's brother got away with because of her MAFIA family.
My god, where was THIS Nancy Pelosi when the Squad first started in 2019?! Wow, did progressive support really not start until Biden dropped out?!
@@binarystar300
I think it's because the mainstream Dems didn't realize until the aftermath of January 6 just how bad the political climate was gonna get. This is basically their last chance to finally pull a Macron.
Biden is also said to like Walz a lot, and Bernie gave him an endorsement!
@@janefreda7034yes!! Just saw that!
Shapiro seems great to the DNC, not to the people. Pick Tim Walz!
The democrats need to reward Shapiro for allowing the Trump assassination attempt to happen in his state.
The extremely online left just looks for reasons to lose. They're going to find a reason to not vote no matter what.
Andy beshear
Walz has all his positives and more. Beshear owes his position to rich family connections. Walz was a high school teacher and football coach.
Tim Walz coined the weird tag for MAGA, worth VP just for that.
He’s the only one who hurts her. I can not imagine why they would do this
Big money and a need to mess it up
Buttigieg is brilliant, but she couldn’t choose him either.
@@kyriedandrow6778 becuz that’s what the ZIONIST want
Capitalism as politics: dancing on the knife edge of maxing out returns for your investors (err, "donors"), while pissing off your own constituents just enough to delight the donors, but not so much as to lose elections. There's a reason the margins are always razor thin!
Well, him and Kelly. Kelly voted against the PRO act and only changed his stance the day before his name came out on the short list.
"It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand."
Mike Royko
No to him!
I’m sure! This makes religious families very happy. It takes funds away from public schools, some that are already hurting for funds. So Christian and Hebrew parents (for instance) are getting school breaks regardless of their income. To pay a portion of their tuition that isn’t under the same scrutiny as public schools are. They don’t have to hire teachers with the same education or qualifications as teachers in public schools do. Some teachers in private school may not have much more than a high school diploma. They might be attending college but no way would they get hired as a teacher in a public school. A teachers aid or assist. maybe. Also, private schools can pick and choose who they want to let in and who they want to kick out. This could be problematic if they don’t have to prove wrongdoing on the child or parents part. They just simply decided to shut the kid out. There’s a lot wrong with using public funds intended for public use directed towards private expenditure.
Vouchers are not the way to win over the people in the swing states.
PA voter here. You’re absolutely right!
Most definitely not, not for teachers, not for unions either
Normal people aren't going to care about this. You're in a bubble. The extremely online left just looks for reasons to lose. They're going to find a reason to not vote no matter what.
The younkin argument hasn’t aged well. High stakes testing and disingenuous rhetoric have been used to scapegoat public education while denying real societal factors. They all claim competition will make the system better while simultaneously draining resources from these very same schools. Profits over people leads to greater oligarchical entrenchment.
Dems picking the most divisive candidate in Shapiro in order to please donors. I'm sure that won't backfire. It's not like they JUST saw first-hand this very same strategy backfire for Trump in picking J.D. Vance to please Musk and Peter Thiel.
I swear, the staff around Harris (the exact same people who advised Biden into his debate) must be totally cut off from anything outside their little bubble. They vaguely heard rumors that Harris was popular with Gen-Z on Tik-Tok, but they never stopped to wonder why that is, or how important that is to her success.
They’ll lose the younger voters, many university students, teachers, Muslims, middle easterns, Jews, it would be a shit show
@@bizygirl1Basically growing voting blocks that will be the most important in this election…
He's not divisive. You're in a bubble. The extremely online left just looks for reasons to lose. They're going to find a reason to not vote no matter what.
@@bizygirl1And lose a lot of confidence with women due to his office’s coverup of harassment.
@@bizygirl1 Some, but not at the numbers you think. Only a small percentage of students give a shit about Gaza and more concerned about abortion rights and stopping Trump. You listed Jews? Are you really that ignorant? Shapiro is a Jew.
i genuinely think if they pick shapiro the momentum kamala has stops
It would for me. After some hard debate with myself, I decided I would not vote for Biden because of his stance on the Palestinian genocide. Yes, even with project 2025 looming. That's how despicable a job Joe did with Palestine. If she picks Shapiro, that decision not to vote will go back to what it was, pre-Kamala.
IMO, Shapiro's stance against dissent IN AMERICA against the israel settlement and the unjust persecution of the Palestinian genocide protestors, again, IN AMERICA is unconstitutional. He shouldn't be allowed to hold office, let alone be VP.
Agreed
I'm pragmatic about doing whatever it takes to win this election, but of first time donors to Kamala, the top two groups were nurses & teachers. I hope Kamala's team can read the room.
That's really my only concern atm as well. The Republicans are busy incinerating their chances of winning as best they can. The nightmare would be screwing it up with garbage neoliberal strategy.
well, she doesn't have Hilary's staffers in her campaign this time, hopefully that helps
I really hope Harris has some better sense than to select Josh Shapiro as their VP pick. A better option would be Tim Walz..
Re: Shapiro - popping up in my feed writing by Shapiro which unequivocally states "Palestinians could not live in peace with Jews". He is overtly anti-Palestinian. Please do what you can to track this down + get it to Harris campaign in case they're not aware.
I'm a Harris voter, I agree with Shipiro on this. 60+ % of Palestinians support hamas when polls were taken under strict anonymity.
Yeah there is no way you will get me to back this ticket with Shapiro in any sort of federal power, even as VP.
And that he volunteered working with the IDF when he was in Israel.
As a Pennsylvanian, I've been concerned with Shapiro's school choice stance since his campaign. Thank God we have real progressives in our state assembly that shut it down (for now). How anyone thinks giving our tax money to private schools is a good idea is beyond me!
It’s easy. He took campaign money from Yass who really wants private schools everywhere. Yass also helped Trump not that long ago.
We have the same struggle in NC . They are intentionally trying to defund our public schools and give vouchers to the already well off and the church. Educate for citizenship, yes. The private schools send all the difficult kids away and then try to act like they have better metrics than public.
I'm in NC too. Our state is slowly going off the rails. Sad.
And now the taxpayers are paying for religious schools? Disgusting.
The attempts to undermine and abandon public-schools have done shocking damage to our ability to have an effective, competent society. Yet, they're completely unbothered that the collapse of social cohesion isn't going to work out well for business in the long-term.
Jennifer's comment about how some people view hierarchy is right on the money.
We all know that there will always be people trying to make a mad dash for power, willing to do anything to get it and keep it, just as there will always be people who never rise to their full potential no matter how much intervention is done. The difference between us is that some people believe the preservation of power in the "right" hands is what makes a moral world. Progressives (should) see power not as a finite resource for the righteous to use but as an infinite, collective resource we all can access and share to make the world even better.
He was PA AG before becoming PA gov.
He barely has a record since he's only been PA gov for a short time.
@@track1949 yeh and he covered up a murder for his rich Jewish buddy...not sure how a suicide can have 5 stab wounds including one in the back of the head....
Shapiro's brief tenure is why I want him to stay put. My daughter, her husband, and my youngest sister live in Pennsylvania. They need Shapiro to at least finish out his first term.
I think he’d be a better asset if he were left there
@@davidmann2524Really?
barely has a record? have you seen literally 0 news lately...
Walz was a teacher. He also just increased public school funding by $2 billion in Minnesota, as well as the free school lunches.
Whatever happened to Common Core? My daughter lives & works in Philadelphia. She teaches math at a public charter high school. She was hoping a core curriculum would be pursued. Within the large numbers of elementary & middle schools in Philly, math education is uneven. The state requirements in math proficiency in order to graduate high school are strict. Every school year, there are students who need intense help catching up to their peers. I know that local control is almost idolized, especially on the right; however, local control in dozens of small districts too often brings about unequal educational outcomes.
Republicans believe in keeping people stupid.
Josh needs to stay in Pennsylvania so don't JD Vance it
A great conversation and her last statement of fighting over scraps is the key imo. I think the out of control greed in our country, society, and world for that matter has conned so many people out there to believing that survival of the fittest is the way to go. I've had so many discussions with people in my life about why people want to be rich. I've tried to express that anyone who works and makes an honest living knows it's hard to get rich without exploitation of other people but I almost always get push back. No one wants to seriously look at how the sausage is made in terms of getting rich. The dismantling of the education system and the blaming of the system for all the greed driven problems in our society today is just another way the Greedy shady sons a you knows are trying to exploit and rule the American people.
DeVoss is the devil. We need a public education renaissance where it is about lifelong learning skills. How to learn. Not necessarily what.
Is Devoss still there???
@@Independent2024-x9q No. The damage is though.
Philadelphia Inquirer - Josh Shapiro 1993 college writing saying, "Palestinians are too battle-minded to live in peace" or something like that. No Shapiro!
Whether he gets picked by Harris or not, it would be good if he renounced that sentiment. He still represents the dem brand 😒
1993? People do grow so maybe his opinion has changed.
Why? I agree. 60+% of Palestinians support hamas, and that's in polls that are taken under strict anonymity
@@michelleisaacson6069Before Israel started bombing Gaza, their approval rating was much lower. Now Hamas looks like their only line of defense
@@dl2725 A renouncement of that is just as good as a youtube apology video to me. As far as I'm concerned he is already radioactive, she picks him I will make sure to vote uncommitted not just on the top of the ticket but down ballot as well. The party has fucked around enough in the past and I will ask others to do the same if Josh Shapiro is picked.
Shawn Fain came out against Shapiro and Kelly and for Beshear or Walz. So add union labor to youth, Uncommitted, public education advocates, women (and men) grossed out by sexual harassment, etc. This guy has so many negatives he makes Tim Kaine look like a genius pick.
He didn't come out against, he said he preferred Beshear or Walz.
What's wrong with Tim Caine?
@@mikeyt34 He did say he preferred Beshear or Walz, but he has also publicly criticized Shapiro and Kelly as picks with a troubling record on labor.
@@bretEdwardsNothing. He was a fine pick, he had nothing to do with Hillary losing.
Tim Walz = younger Bernie Sanders 🔥
I'm from Pennsylvania the way I see it Josh belongs no where near the white house
Yes,Bernie forever
Thank you so much for this segment.
NO SHAPRIO
Too pro-Israel.
That ends it right there for me.
So do you think Trump would be better or…
@@christinab5778 I'm confident Harris will not pick Trump to be her VP.
If Kamala picks Shapiro goodbye, Michagan.
Harris is up by like 11 points in Michigan right now. She can affords to lose some there 🤷♀️
@michelleisaacson6069 if you say so.. Don't forget these are biased cherry-picked polling data to make it appear she is favored.
If Kamala picks Shapiro, goodbye Palestine
@@jsrodriguez101 Trump literally wants to help Bibi turn Palestine into a parking lot but you do you boo.
@@michelleisaacson6069outlier poll more like +4 at best
I want Buttigig or Walz. I think Shapiro would be a really bad choice! Especially after that article came out about his previous aid. While he may not have been involved, Trump will spin it. Not to mention, she’s been focused on women’s rights and having this Shapiro aid issue would look bad. And while Trump has no leg to stand on, it could turn into some saying neither candidate is worth it.
I also think Josh and Andy are best in their seats. Kelly shouldn’t be removed because he’s a sitting D senator from a state that could easily replace him with R. Further he’s very pro oil and terrible on climate change. And given the new climate report that just came out, he’s the last thing we need as VP. Idc if he was an astronaut, (cool career brah) that has nothing to do with policy. JB Peziker is a billionaire venture capitalist from the Hyatt family. We’ve already had a “billionaire” as president and we saw how that went. Even if he’s better than a Cheeto, it’s still not a good idea.
Walz comes from an old strain of rural progressives. Buttigieg is a market-tested Rand Corp neoliberal product.
@@ravenm6443 bootyjudge ain't great either
This is a deal breaker for me with Shapiro. I am completely against the voucher system!
I know that the media hype around Shapiro is going wild right now, but I’m sorry I cannot take this dude seriously. He tries to sound like Obama, and that is just way too lame. MAGA will relentlessly point how phony that is on the daily, as they should. It’s nonsense.
I hope for Walz for Vice President
1st I pray it's not him
So does most people under 50 in Pennsylvania
He will JD Vance it
He’s an IDF soldier. He has no business anywhere near the White House.
I heard that this morning. If that's true, totally disqualifing!
He was in high school when he was on the IDF base learning. Not a soldier. Go read his bio and learn about him.
He lived on a kibbutz that assisted the IOF in various ways. He wasn't a member.
@@nicolej5670 No, even that is unacceptable. He became a Judean-Samarian Candidate in his time there?
@@rachael_grey Like the guys who ran the trains or built the gulags?
Please don’t pick Shapiro
Thank you for your program.
I hope Kamala Harris makes the right decision and for me it’s Tim Waltz. Buttugieg and Bashear are second best.
Not what I was expecting from this video, but so important and enlightening!
No matter what you say, Shapiro looks like a sleazy corporate dem,
Straight up
Welcome to Harrisburg Pennsylvania State House in a nutshell
yikes. if "debundled" schools existed in the rural, religious, poor place where i grew up in that midwest, I'm afraid i would have been forever in that impoverished, awful place. education was my one way to reach beyond those circumstances. I'm afraid my parents would have chosen education courses mostly based on religious ideas, and some hodgepodge of other courses to fill in the gaps. my parents were willingly or circumstantially clueless in so many ways.
Yet another tremendously important reason that Josh Shapiro CANNOT be the VP on this ticket. And all the more reason that Tim Walz MUST be the VP on this ticket.
Picking Shapiro would be a surefire way to kill any enthusiasm Harris has generated.
GREAT show ty
I can see my daughter suffer so much in Public School based on the common core and standardized testing has made her life hell especially with all the focus on Math and Science it is overkill
So why the hell is Shapiro being touted as VP???
Because pundits still believe that nothing else matters other than delivering Pennsylvania. As if Democrats couldn't win the state on their own.
2 points:
1. The GOP hasn’t forgotten what value public education brings. They want indoctrination from a young age and they’re not getting the purity of indoctrination they need for social control.
2. ROI isn’t just neo-liberal it’s a reality. Education is far too expensive to justify a 40K teaching job with no pension and one that requires each teacher to provide their students with supplies. ROI is CRITICAL and needs to be a factor to be considered as “cultural cohesion” and “honor” don’t pay bills or build retirement savings.
"I don't want an educated populace. I want obedient workers. Just smart enough to push the buttons, too stupid to know how bad they're getting screwed!" G Carlin. Ad-lib of John D. Rockefeller.
Nationalize public education. The successes of the American district funding model are an "in spite of" deal and not "because of" and its fundamental weakness, especially on the world stage, will continue to be made increasingly evident as things like income inequality grow. School nationalization should be a plank issue for any self-respecting progressive going forward.
Part of the campaign for debt free public money instead of a private corporation creating debt bearing private money loaned to member banks, financial interests, and the very wealthy as its 'first use' (along with 'fractional reserve' multiplication of those loans), is that National Public Education Funding would be one of the 'first uses' of money created and introduced into the economy. Not a 'trickle down' form of monetary policy that give 'first use' of new money created to banks/financial interests.
2:27 You can’t evaluate teachers without first evaluating the IQs of the students. Think about football recruits going into college. You give the best recruits to the poorest colleges with unheralded head coaches and staff then you’d see how good the coaches (“teachers”) really are.
Some people have pointed out non-conservative public schools have the benefit of a superior public education system. I am just limited to the urban vs small town. They are fair and lean right and they say that in order to get the same level of education you have to send them to private school which is not within reach to pretty much any family in income as well as supply.
Im not sure but that is a big thing for parents. Its not consistent across the state city and local which is why I mention it is a systemic issue. Very interesting
Also, Im sure most of these private schools are not affordable and the classroom or student:teacher ratio and selective process makes them out of reach. Plus parents dont want to go drive to the other side of the city. So there are few in quantity and even with financial assistance there are not enough because they focus on elite education where they are focused on college acceptance. There are students who may not feel 4 years of studying a college major is a good tradeoff for the tuition and we have way more areas of online learning or occupational stuff than 20 years ago. So you have this gap Like she says, it is more important for parents to have a better public education high school and under school system that doesnt cater to one type of family
Also, Im referring to people I know living in Texas who are republican. I say this because it speaks to the opinion that many republicans observe in the lack of the quality of education (the content of study is a lesser concern) quality to them has to do with how effective the teacher is able to teach ect..
Anyways, just a comment
The people that are effect are both utban and suburban. Suburban in that there are so many students and too little options and urban being mainly affordability. Privatization of education isnt what these parents want nor do they think is a necessity. also, issues of what is taught in school is more or less not a statewide issue it has to do with the local board and not the system
12:07 Sam understands it
I personally feel other people are light years ahead of the traditional school system. I cant put my brain around it but its like some people are stuck on rigid teaching methods vs teaching vouchers and that causes students to lag behind or what bush said “left behind”
@~9:45, "the fact that we have public education in this country in the first place, because of that vision of equality."
I don't think equality was what they had in mind when they first set up *SEGREGATED SCHOOLS*
When schools started to be integrated, the purpose of a lot of these church private schools was to continue segregation.
I hope she picks Tim Walz 👍
As an Aussie I don't know much about your politics, political machinations etc - just see it thru a detached and jaundiced perspective
BUT
I can tell you I'm not impressed with Shapiro😱😱😱 he's WAY TOO SLICK, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. His slick hair, tailored suits, (perfect) Obama-esque style of debate and delivery just give me MASSIVE snake oil salesman vibes🤢🥴🤔
Doesn't matter. People will have to suck it up, unless they want trump again. This education stuff is similar to what Obama was all about. It's not a big deal
@@michelleisaacson6069The Democrats will never learn their lesson smh
@@idkwhybut...
My pick would be Tim Walz, he's a bit rustic, homespun and proven to be a good campsigner, and a good achiever of political wins in a hostile state environment. Delivering many landmark projects and programs in health education and welfare, ALL democratic talking points.
He's a great orator for the messages Kamala wants to put out there, approachable, appealling to the wid e public and dedicated to the cause.
He's in the right demografics to complement Kamala and would appeal greatly to all the rural, regional people in the farming, forrestry, mining states.
If I could wisper in Ms Harris's ear I would say 'pick Tim'😂🤣😂🤣
@@michelleisaacson6069 People didn't catch on Obama's bullshit then, times are different now.
Great show.
Here's a teaching moment: Shapiro gets you Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania gets you the election. Any questions?
As it stands currently in pa, students can attend cyber schools and the cost per pupil is subtracted from the district where the student resides. In many urban settings there are secular charter schools. You correctly identify the issue as an attempt to break with precedent and have the government fund religious education.
about 7:20 I just totally lost track of what Sam was rambling about
I think Shapiro would tank the campaign's momentum. It's a very depressing thought. Walz would unite everyone and electrify the campaign. I have my fingers crossed for a Harris/Walz ticket.
The characterization of voucher programs is mostly right, but this is a misrepresentation of the whole story with Shapiro. He had a proposal for a voucher system in a budget last year. PA is a split state with some some hardball Republicans and he was trying to deal with them. After the teacher's union protested, he struck it from the bill, and didn't have it in this year's budget, which added 1.1 billion dollars for public school funding, including breakfast for all K-12 students.
Thank you for this clarification. I'm personally fine with Shapiro. People need to get over it, or we'll be stuck with way worse than Shapiro as VP 🙄
Wake up to reality! Nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world. The longer you live, the more you realize that the only things that truly exist in this reality are merely pain. suffering and futility. Listen, everywhere you look in this world, wherever there is light, there will always be shadows to be found as well. As long as there is a concept of victors, the vanquished will also exist. The selfish intent of wanting to preserve peace, initiates war. and hatred is born in order to protect love. There are nexuses causal relationships that cannot be separated.
Really? 😂
Have you only been alive for 5 minutes?
@@track1949 it's a reference madara's speech from naruto lol
Madras was wrong for one thing, he never considered how bratty he sounded with that drivel.
Well, that's cheerful
@@rezrunnercla hard no!? Get over it, or we'll all be stuck with trump who obviously is 100× worse than Shapiro!! Jesus
That’s why it’s popular in Pennsylvania. Because we love our private schools even on the left and we like the government to pay for it.
The ONLY thing that matters is his record on winning elections.
Parents need to step up and do most of the educating of their own children. The public education system will only give children the basics so they can become worker bees. The pandemic revealed the lack of parental participation in educating children. Most students fell behind during that time because parents did not step up to make sure that their child learned what they needed to learn in order to advance to the next grade.
Bro why does he look weird? Like Steve Mnuchin?
Pelosi is backing Walz? I didn't know that 👍🏽💯 Walz is the best choice 💯💯💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🤣😁
The safe bet is kelly
Or Waltz. Kelly is the safest.
Walz is far better. The unions dislike Kelly and he needs to stay where he is to keep that Senate seat with Democrats.
Disagree. He's a good guy but isn't a good communicator and comes across as an old school politician in every way. He won't energize young people, who are fueling the current surge for Kamala. By contrast, social media is in love with Walz.
If pro-Genocide Josh is on the ticket, Palestine is doomed either way.
A lot of people me included will feel hopeless. Greed triumphs over empathy yet again...
Election or not, please don't let this stop you from aiding Palestinian families and medical facilities, one dollar of yours infinitely matters more than however much the media and Harris admin is paid by AIPAC and the Zionists.
Palestine is far more doomed if Republicans get in office, as is the rest of the world.
Beshear could be today’s Carter. We need that person again.
He needs to stay in Kentucky to keep that seat in Democratic Party hands.
Shapiro the jew has come to mess up Kamala Harris's momentum
So, if you need Shapiro for Penn, but realize that vouchers signal the destruction of public education and equality for all students, what do you do? Do you put him on the ticket hoping that no one will vote for Trump just because Shapiro is on the ticket? Or do you pick someone who believes in public education and risk the election?
Shapiro straight up looks like Bryan Singer. 💀
Used car salesman or nightclub owner
Damn.
You all act like Shapiro will be President, if she picks him he could, like Harris did, learn from the President. Trump picking Vance will not cause Maga to not vote for Trump. Democrats are ready to throw Harris over the clif if she doesn't pick their choice. There will never be a perfect ticket, but there is always the alternative or just stay home and see what happens to all of us if Trump wins.
He likely will be vp runs for president plus it’s a signal she won’t be progressive and just be Obama which would be bad
Biden drove the religious exemptions of birth control and abortion coverage in the ACA. VPs do have power.
Well then you should be saying no to Shapiro if you don't want Trump.
@@Andrew-of8uq I already think she wont be progressive and just pull an Obama pretending to be progressive again.
@@Undead_Logic agreed
PETE BUTTIGIGE
Did they talk about Shapiro at all? 😂😂😂
WEWILL PROTEST SHAPIRO
Shapiro is the only one I don't want.
I choose Walz!
Shapiro is not my first choice, but it should be made clear that abstaining from voting or voting third party doesn't "make a statement" at least not one that's heard. Democracy is not a business where making more money is always beneficial thereby empowering consumers to boycott; it's about getting 50% + 1 of the votes in each state. If you don't vote for one of the two main parties (yes, it sucks that we have only two), your voice is silent, not missed. Please keep this in mind if your favorite choice for VP is not selected in the next few days.💙
participating in an evil system doesn't make it less evil. if it takes losing more elections before they adopt left positions, then i guess maybe the Democrats are stupid enough to keep on ignoring left voters until they get tired of losing so often. outcomes of elections are not going to stop me from voting my conscience.
That's why you have primaries
Democrats AIPAC ,Republicans AIPAC NO , Vote GREEN PARTY!
The Green Party has totally failed because they have never built from bottom up. They’ve been running presidential races since the 1990s with zero gain. They could have run numbers of candidates for down ballot seats they could actually win to influence policy instead, but they keep repeating the same mistake decade after decade.
Betsy DeVos “mentored” Cory Booker on education policy.
Cite your source
Sure lol
Beshear!!!!!!!
🌊💙🌊🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗳🗽
Shapiro on the ticket may very well cost them my vote. This is just all so obvious that if Kamala can't get this right it will make me wonder about everything else.
wtf, is it the vp who will be in charge? No
Let's face it, they're going to pick Shapiro. However remember that Obama and Biden were opposites on the Iraq war. So from her perspective winning PA is the first step towards enacting policy. And he has to get in line with her policies. She didn't have a choice with Biden either.
YES! Agree!!
Picking Shapiro would only make a bad situation worse. But with or without Shapiro, Harris ain't going nowhere. But hey, she's not Donald Trump. That's literally all that matters, right?
I am half way into the podcast and have not yet heard the term “teacher’s union”. I HATE the idea of my tax dollars being paid to a religious school. But I hate more any child being trapped in a system that does not provide an adequate education because unqualified teachers cannot be let go to find a job they are better suited for. Yes, rich people can use vouchers, but most people are not rich, and the less well- off people really get the most out of school choice. I don’t understand why the good teachers, who are a super-majority, don’t defend and promote the public school system by enabling the system to be parents’ first choice.
The less well off people can’t afford to send their kids to the private schools even with the vouchers. It just traps them with schools that are even more underfunded.
@@bevtaylor5466 If any parent can find a way to make it work, I support them. And by definition, that is what they have decided is best for their child. If the public school does not want to lose the funding, it can improve itself. This entire podcast (I did listen to the end) did not mention the teacher's union. Therefore, it did not begin to truly address the issue.
Shapiro was included in the process because PA is perhaps the central swing state and he’s popular here. Given the series of news stories that have surfaced lately about him and the fact that the Democratic Party knows Shapiro will be an odds on favorite to win re-election in 2026 - preventing PA from going full MAGA - I can’t see him being the pick. Kelly - a much more robust resume - or Walz - blue collar and relatable - are far better choices. I’m not thrilled in every way with Shapiro. I’m a teacher here in the Philly suburbs and while Shapiro is a FAR better option than Mastriano was, he’s at best far less harmful to unions and public education than the MAGA movement. That’s not saying much but given the alternative in PA politics is very much like to keep Shapiro as governor until 2031.
Even better, no Shapiro as VP and he is replaced as PA's governor. All well before 2031 cause fuck that shit, someone else can do the job, get that fuck head outta power.
Kelly needs to stay where he is to keep the Senste seat blue. Walz is the superior choice.
@@bevtaylor5466 Walz is the only choice.
But you’re defending the integrity of public schools where, in California, only 1/3 of the students meet basic math and reading standards! The public school system is a money machine: the education-industrial complex is feeding vast special interests but not really capable of educating children in many places.
Quite using "like" as a filler. Especially while you're discussing education.
Slimy Shapiro
Anyone but Pete Buttigieg taps the brakes on Harris’ momentum. Aside from Harris, who might have won the nomination had the Democrats had a real primary this past winter/spring?
Ive listened to quite a few focus groups. Alot of trump to Biden voters like him Pennsylvanians like him. I trust the campaign knows whats up
Conservatives liking him is not helping his case here. Unless you want the Dems to continue having shit people in power. We already have enough to remove from the Dems why add more. Before you mention conservatives will vote for Dems then they wont, all the Dems would end up doing is fucking their chances of winning the election with having a pro Israel VP as is Harris is already on shaky ground when it comes to the folks who are very against Israel, from swing states and on. Myself included here as is I'm already thinking on voting uncommitted because of Harris's doing the same song and dance as Biden when it comes to Israel. All she did was a very small rhetoric change.
Thing is Shapiro stance on education is the same as Obama's so its not a new thing.
Obama crappie record is what got us trump in the first place
False. In 2012 there was some concessions to R's in funding some programs, by 2014 they were taking it apart: What’s Obama’s Problem With School Choice?
By GOV. BOBBY JINDAL and GOV. SCOTT WALKER POLITICO July 08, 2014 Updated July 09, 2014
I must have missed where the vice president runs the White House. Guy will abandon his more right wing position like Kamala has abandoned her more left wing ones.
you may be underestimating just how sick people are of any politician that ever remotely stinks of zionism
So Josh Shapiro's vouchers versus getting rid of the Department of Education and we need to wake up to reality really Sam. Are you sure it is not his stance on Israel that TMR has a problem with and disguising it as education.
Harris better don't F!! Up. If she chooses Shapiro. I will not vote for her
Get over it, if she loses you be stuck with WAY worse than VP you don't like 🤯
I honestly like all of them, but if Shapiro would being PA that's the key thing and he is very pop there. he had to govern with a Republican senate, Walz didn't have that limitation. I don't think shapiro has any different position on Israel from most Dems, people on the Left act like he is a Netanyahu fan or something. It does smack a bit of not wanting a Jew on the ticket, unless it's Saint Bernard of course.
The fuck? The dislike for Shapiro is do to many issue with him but his support for Israel is fucked, hell anyone giving any support of Israel is extremely fucked. Dems should pick someone else or else the uncommitted votes will be there in swing states and otherwise and I will do whatever I can to have others do the same. So Dems should choose wisely I'm unemployed and very motivated.
There is no certainty that he can bring Pennsylvania and he has multiple cases of negative baggage that drags the campaign down. Walz is the candidate who can keep the momentum going and has none of the negatives.
If she puts him as vice president I am not going for her I’m going to vote for Jill stein
Well that's pretty much a vote for trump
@@michelleisaacson6069 well I’m tired of the bull shit
@@michelleisaacson6069 they should learn their lesson from Biden. "Oh, not voting for Biden is voting for Trump. Lesser of two evils." The voters don't give a fuck. Give us a shit candidate and we will not show up.
Voting third party has the same effect as not voting. All it does is let whoever votes D or R pick the president for you, with you having no voice in it.
As a lifelong independent voter, I am critical of both parties, but recognize that right now the R party is dangerous with Project 2025 on the table. They try to deny it, but if you look at the red states, you can see the policies already being legislated. I really don’t want to live in an authoritarian theocracy that interferes in what should be personal decisions.
So however we feel about D, it would be smart to vote them in until we head off this danger. Put D in office until we can work out a better system.
Well that's stupid. I think he's a terrible choice and seeing Harris already pivoting to more moderate policies is disheartening, but any other vote is a vote for Trump
Dems use who for policy!
The VP doesn't set the policy- the POTUS does that. If she picks Shapiro, please don't let it scare y'all off so much. It's just a strategy thing for this election (which I don't agree with.) I want Tim Walz. But I'll happily vote Kamala 2024 no matter who she picks to keep democracy going so we can improve it over time.
It's not just about policy. It's about voters not voting- especially in MI.
Look at Biden's work to allow religious exemptions for birth control and abortion coverage in the ACA. VPs are not sitting around powerless.
@@cassandratq9301she's 11 points ahead in Michigan. She can afford to lose some
@michelleisaacson6069 Yeah, the polls said Hillary was going to win and we saw how that turned out. If Kamala is even half as smart as she’s supposed to be she’ll pick Walz to keep her momentum going, not Shapiro to drag her down.