What Exactly is a Late Model?
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2021
- Late models are so ubiquitous to short track racing that I don't know if I could find a track that doesn't have some variant of them as a weekly division. They are absolutely inescapable, but what the hell are they? Well, let's find out . . .
#NASCAR #LateModel #SuperLateModel
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_“what exactly is a late model?…”_
Josh Berry: *_tis my baby. it’s my holy grail._*
They look like if NASCAR never stopped using the Gen 4 lmaooo I love late models
I honestly thought that too until my first late model race
Interesting. I'm European, so this is all a big unknown. Just got into Stockcar racing last year. Thanks for telling a novice NASCAR fan all there is to know.
It is great nascar is reaching people in Europe
Another European (German)
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@@nascarfan1880 Honestly it’s really fascinating to watch how people try to get cars to tackle ovals, it’s totally counterintuitive to the way I’m used to seeing cars run over here. ‘Only trouble is that all the races are run near midnight over here!
@@EthanCookereal That's the problem indeed.
Really enjoying these "what are they?" segments. Always got confused, thanks so much for these, very educational!
as a european fan, they are fantastic. I honestly knew very little about these cars before watching the video
Welcome to the greatest sport in the world.
Never thought I'd see the day I saw my own late model in a B-roll shot on a random UA-cam video. But here it is 🤣🤣 so glad you used footage from the Rockford Speedway!!🤘
Timestamp?
@@manz7860 1:41
@@shaggydabbydoo1468 what number was it?
Lol I thought I recognized the #14 Kar Korner car.
Little history lesson. At 3:10 in the video, the black number 3 in the lead there is driven by a man people like to call "Big Show." The video is taken at Lancaster Motor Speedway in South Carolina. Big Show unfortunatly passed away about a month ago but before that, her racked up over 600 wins at that track. To put that in perspective, the track only runs around 25 races a year. That means that he would have had to win every race heled there for 24 years straight. Truly a great of out time and he will not be forgotten. R.I.P.
Also the 16 car at 9:29 run for the team I drive legend cars for.
Wow that is awesome ngl there needs to be something at the track honoring him for an achievement like that I love hearing stuff like this the facts about tracks and drivers just goes to show racing isn't dead
Its genuinely crazy seeing people winn hundreds of races
600 wins?! That's way more than me on Nascar Heat 5 or even Ignition 21
Every race for 24 years?......sounds like they need some better competition at that track
The CARS Late Model Stock Tour is likely the most competitive in the country. Based in SC, NC & VA The whole schedule is comprised of high character old-school half miles and a couple bullrings.
Yeah. The SRL tour is also extremely competitive, probably more competitive than the cars late model stock tour.
ARCA Midwest Tour.. Majeski, Johnson, Bickle, Fenhaus, Kraus, Hocevar, Johnny Sauter.. Stop sleeping and come see a dixieland 250 race at Wisconsin International Raceway 😎
@@JoeyWilliamsJOLO Bickle had a good career.
Not a tour, but i would also like to throw in the opinion that IMCA hobby stocks/stock cars are also some of the most competitive in Iowa specifically
Saw them run at Florence Motor Speedway. Great stuff
Fun fact, my hometown short track (Thunder Road) was founded by Ken Squier. The track still runs today and has multiple divisions including Latemodels
I haven’t ben to Thunder Road in a little how’s its going up there
I'm from Connecticut and the 3 tracks here are still going strong today. It seems like modifieds rule here and New Hampshire but NH is a good mix of mods and late models
There’s also Pro Late Models. Same Chassis and Body and tires as a super, just a way smaller engine. The Pro Lates run 604 Crate Engines instead of the open motors in the Supers.
As a short track, late model guy, THANK YOU!!! GREAT JOB!! Dick Trickle was a god, and Mark Martin dominated these cars back in the day!!!
I'm from Italy, and I first learned about these big boys on iRacing. Curiously enough, from an iRacing player's perspective, I didn't know that the World of Outlaws late models were in some kind of way related to the stock late models. The lore of oval racing is intriguing! I'm really looking forward to join the Nascar scene the next season with the Next-gen models. I hope it will grow in Europe, much like the NFL did in the past 10 years, even hosting some matches in London. If you guys make up your mind on the other side of the pond, just tell us in advance, and we will refurbish the Oval track in Monza lol. Anyway, great contents dude! Keep up the good work
Man I rly do wish you could do a video on Oglethorpe speedway park in Pooler Georgia.... They just had their last weekend of racing, the weekend of November the 13th and it's sad because it was a nascar track back in the day and the finally ran the vintage late model class on the last night of racing for the history books. Sad to see it go after 70 years of getting down and dirt, Richard Petty started on Lee Petty's pit crew there and Dale Earnhardt, fireball Roberts and many other greats raced there and I'd like you to do a video on the place... It's full of history
Damn it! I live in Savannah and should have gone there when I had the chance.
savannah native, it sure is a shame to see OSP go. it started going downhill when they shortened it a few years ago but that doesn’t mean i wanted to see it go like this. rumor says Amazon bought the land for some crazy amount like 30mil and they’ve offered to buy the houses by the track for $300,000 per acre
Super-late models look like your standard NASCAR chassis after an anvil landed on it. I love them.
Great video - it's surprising how little people talk about the difference in racing classes, it always just seems implied.
I also love that you're trying to turn more fan on to their local short tracks.
Love the outlaw late models man. The 18 car you showed runs at my local track. Those cars absolutely fly around the track, and look insane doing it. Great vid slap.
One of the things that makes me never run out of love for auto racing is the myriad kinds of cars that can be seen having it out on tracks everywhere. Some of them are straight ridiculous looking, and yet perfect for their job; and I love them best.
Supermodifieds are the best example of that, I think. Those cars are insane.
The ACT tour is fun to watch but up here in the northeast the pro all star series (super late models) is where it’s at. One of our own, Derek Griffith, actually made a start for Kyle Busch’s truck team this past season
Correct, and even then it's a bit muddy. PASS presents itself as a Super Late Model touring series, but PASS isn't strictly ABC-compliant (particularly with crate engines, but built motors would be wasted on most of our tracks). In some ways it's closer to a Pro Late Model. The Granite State Pro Stock Series, as its name suggests in a roundabout way, is far more along the lines of a Pro Late Model compliant with the ABC Committee. The ACT Late Model rules specify a perimeter chassis, but some teams have used straight rail cars in the past; ACT brings in a shock rule, 8" tires and a crate motor, so they're not quite like a NASCAR-spec Late Model Stock Car. There's a lot of nomenclature involved and it's quite ticky-tack at times!
The ACT Tour and the PASS Series don't come anywhere close to modifieds. I'm from Connecticut and seen the ACT Tour and PASS Series race at all 3 tracks and the modifieds beat them even at Thompson which is run by both ACT and PASS
@@justinspiewak1482 nothing beats the modifieds, I hope to be in a car some day, I currently race in the pro 4 mods and my first race was at Thompson last month
@@j_badach_xvi6261 Cool. My cousin races SK Lights at all 3 tracks and is the newest member of Keith Rocco Racing. My cousin has a lot of top 10 finishes at Stafford in his rookie SK Light season and Stafford got over 30 cars every week
I'm so glad you're more or less making this a series. My dad freakin loved the supermodified video. He was a little disappointed that you didn't mention the West Coast Supers or Troy Regier, his favorite supermodified driver. In case you're looking to do a third episode in the series, I'd suggest Sprint Cars. The variety is about as crazy as the Late Models.
As a fairly casual motorsports fan, this video actually answered a TON of questions I’ve had for a while. Cheers!
You cannot appreciate how exciting a super later model dirt race is until you actually go see it live. It is amazing.
As of this video being uploaded, next weekend is the snowball derby in Pensacola, Florida. It has 54 super late model, 61 pro late model, and 40 outlaws scheduled to race
Do they all race together at the same time
@@Greg1_c outlaws run 50 and pro late model run 100 on Saturday, super late model run 300 on sunday
A video I'd really like to see is something along the lines of "how to watch a nascar race" i recently saw the Martinsville 500 in person, my first nascar race. and while I enjoyed myself, I did feel somewhat at a loss for what to be watching for. A video on what to look for and where to watch while the race is going on would be very interesting and informative to me and other people new to the sport.
Thank you for sharing videos from the Rockford speedway and the midwest as it's where I grew up and my dad was the announcer at the speedway before passing away on Monday
Wow Rockford is my home track as well and plan to race in the mid am series and race there a few times next year. I heard about your dad John. Sorry to hear that. I met him at the spring classic this past year. Good man
Remember when NASCAR had their own super late model series, there isn't really a video discussing their history because they all had a unique history
When was that?
The CARS tour is technically NASCAR’s late model series
I love when you show a late model in todays short track scene and how you got a short track LEGEND in Richie Bickle Jr. on pole with the hometown kid Austin Nason next to him at Bickle's favorite track!
now that we have finished the video and understand what Late Models and Super Late Models are, it’s time to ask the next question…
*_what’s a SUPER SUPER Late Model?_* lol
A sequel we all need
Nascar
ULTRA SUPER DUPER LATE MODEL
Maximum Over Super Late Model
A Ford T?
I like seeing you add the Rockford speedway nstc super late model race. As it’s my home track and will begin racing there next year. Slinger is also one of my favorites. If you ever get the chance go see a arca Midwest tour race. One of the most competitive super late model series around.
It really sucks Rockford couldn't get super late models this year. always loved NSTC weekend.
@@Spooky711B I’m suprised. They go around there real quick. They had them this year on Saturday night for the bickle twin 45s. But big 8s for nstc. Need to bring back the arca Midwest tour to Rockford
"he cobbled up $100 and built his first race car"
Boomer economy is wild!
You could buy a literal race car in under a year working 40 hours at an honest job lmao. Same guy will probably say kids these days don’t want to work sadly
I usually see regular Late Models and Limited Late Models at the local short track where I'm from, and it's always cool to watch both, regardless of either class. They're based off of Chevrolets, and look like 1990s Monte Carlo bodies (the Street Stocks at mine are based off of 1988 Monte Carlos).
The biggest hidden gem regarding racing on the Internet this channel is.
I love this. My dad has drove a pro late model since I was a baby. He has raced with Augie grill, chase Elliot, chandler smith, and hunter robbins
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I reckon you should make a video on Gary Balough. His story takes _quite_ an unexpected turn (y'know... provided one doesn't already know it).
Now I have a dilemma. Do I look up his Wikipedia page or wait for the S1apSh0es video?
Glad we have a game in SRX that has both the dirt late models and super late models! They’re really fun to drive.
Hands down SlapsShoes is the best teacher I’ve ever had. Screw learning about math and english, I want to learn about racing!
It's pretty handy to be efficient in math if you're going to be a racer. Learn all you can!
@@666streetskater 😑
Happy to hear Bojack Horseman's theme on a NASCAR video :D
Good video as usual!
These videos allows me to know more about various classes of race cars. Keep up the awesome work.
I was jackman, then spotter on a team that ran late model cars from 99 to 2006 at a 1/3 mile asphalt track. I still have my NASCAR membership cards. Back then on the west coast, it was the Dodge weekly racing series. We had a 99 Monte, but switched bodies in 03 to one like the thumbnail. Somehow it was also a Monte Carlo lol. We had some wars. Seasons with the most wins, a ton of poles, trophy dash wins, fist fights, ambulance rides...but no Championship. Watching Jr win the Pepsi 400 from the infield of our little track felt like we were at Daytona. I developed life long friendships at that track. Thanks for the memories!
Wasn't expecting this on a Sunday morning, but awesome as always. Keep up the excellent work.
fascinating stuff! i love comparing our circle track classes and culture to Australia's twighlight zone, mirror universe versions of what we have. we have dirt latemodels, they have these weird "tin-top" Sedans. we have Sprint Cars, they call a sprint with a fiberglass rear window tacked-on a Modified. plus, they go the big steel bumper "F1-stockcars" and "bangers". they also race their version of Street Stocks in a clockwise direction around each track. they even have a track built onto a steep hillside called Mothar Mountain where turn 2 is a 1st gear hairpin turn, and the backstretch curves to the right when counterclockwise. lets see if Down-Unda's uncanny valley produces their own S1apsh0es, aye?
If you find one, let us know. Being able to watch Southern Hemisphere racing would make winter up here feel a good bit shorter.
Well TIL. This is one aspect of stock car racing that I could not wrap my head around mostly because of the naming scheme. Thanks for helping out S1ap.
Outlaws look like the only rule is that when painted black it can be mistaken for a bat mobile straight from a TV or Movie set.
Thanks for making these S1ap.
Your videos have helped me introduce racing to some of my friends and help them understand what I love about it.
It’s so cool that some of the outlaws you show are ones I see up here in the northern Indiana/southern Michigan area(Jeff Ganus, Tyler Rohrig, Steve Needles). They’re my dad and I’s favorite class to watch. Every year we go to at least a half dozen different tracks to watch them race.
Been waiting for this one! I’m actually a team photographer for a small Late Model team based in NC. Grew up with Lates and Dirt Lates all around me and as an aspiring career Motorsport photographer, it’s super exciting to be doing this. Thanks for that awesome video!
I appreciate the video. I have a couple points. 1, Chassis builders all owe 1 big name, Ed Howe. He is the man who started building chassis that people would buy and it even included setup manuals. Jr Hanley built tons of chassis but every car was pretty much unique and of itself. Again appreciate the video but a pioneer like Ed Howe can never be left out or forgotten.
you know when S1ap posts, gotta hop on immediately
Well this came in handy, especially yesterday when my local track did their annual Bill Bigley Memorial Race with the late models and me thinking why they call them that. Thanks S1ap 👍
Thank you for mentioning the Canadian series. Canada’s stock car racing doesn’t get enough exposure even though we have NASCAR sanctioned series. I believe that’s part of why these series don’t match up with American stock car racing.
Thanks for this video. As an European sports car/prototype racing fan I was rather confused by what this term meant, for some reason... Your video is easily digestible and understandable.
Great video, love your work!!! Please make more of these videos explaining the series
Would love see a series of short track history type stuff. Slinger/Slinger Nationals, the Snowball Derby, Nashville Fairgrounds, etc.
Awesome coming across this and seeing some cars and tracks from my area make it into your video. I was there in person the night when that winged car set the track record!
I love this channel, I'm from Wisconsin and I love racing more than life itself. Have you ever did a episode on offroad short course truck racing? There's a huge amount of history with that. Especially around Crandon international offroad speedway.
Good video slap.. very informative for those that don't know! Wish you would've took a little more time to talk about one of the most prestigious weekends in asphalt short track history, the Snowball derby weekend. But nonetheless you killed this one!
Great explanation! I've watched Late Models since I was a kid and I've never had the name and different divisions explained like this. I'm going to watch the CARS Tour race at Langley Speedway this weekend.
One thing that I think is important to note is that while late model racing is definitely a stepping stone on the path to NASCAR, and may be entry level for some, the costs of running a late model is very significant and most drivers start out in something like a quarter midget, legends car or street stock.
Loved the video and lots of great information here! I'd love to see one about sprint car racing. As a NASCAR fan in my childhood I never gave dirt open wheel racing a thought until I got involved with micro sprints on dirt. Dirt sprint cars are amazing machines and I would encourage every NASCAR fan to check out some highlights and learn more about them. Some of the best racing in the world!
Ayyyyyyyyyy my neck of the woods!
Glad to see your talking about this topic Slap. My family used to do this kind of stuff back in the heyday of short track racing. Also very glad you talked about Dick Trickle and his impact in short track history.
Thanks Slap, you do a great job on these, keep up the good work!
These are nice educational videos about NASCAR and American Motorsports.
Keep up the good work, S1apSh0es!
Thank you for the sharing of the Good, What Exactly/ late model and I am enjoying to watching the video!
Oh man, i totally missed the video in my favorite series of yours! Great stuff, as always. By the way, any chance on episode about Trans Am TA/TA2 cars?
Hey Slap. Just wanted to say that I've not watched virtually any races of any type since the F1 US Grand Prix 05, but your quality of material and presentation is so high that I've watched most of your stuff over two months because I got here from your video on that catastrophe of an event.
You and your team do great work. Keep this level of quality and integrity and you're going to the moon.
It’s been a while since I’ve watched this but I’m going through your old videos. Since this first came out I started working on late models for a local team in Alabama. The 112 car you showed as like the second or third clip is augie grill. He has his shop in Bessemer and we get our cars from him. Awesome dude and has won the snowball a couple of times
Ahhh, growing up watching Dick Trickle run Wisconsin International Raceway in Kaukauna. Love those summer night memories.
Thanks for the education S1ap. A combination of yourself and iRacing are teaching this Brit about the finer points of turning left. I never realised how many divisions and rule sets there are. I do wish we had this sort of stock car racing here in the UK. I love watching short track so the late models have really piqued my interest. Thanks again for the awesome content mate and stay safe!
Another great video as always. Would have loved to seen a shoutout to the southwest Late model scene with with SRL Southwest Tour and legends like Jim Thirkettle, Dan Press, Hornaday. The list goes on.
I seen you had some clips from Kalamazoo speedway in there. You definitely should do a video on that legend of a track. There has been a ton of great great racing there. my uncles (Robert "bob" Town and David Town) raced there for many many years. It used to be sanctioned by nascar for as long as I can remember, but they cut their ties with nascar about three four years ago sadly. It's such a blast being there. Great place!
Love your videos, brother! I noticed you used some footage from Speed, and it got me to thinking: have you ever thought of doing a history of Nascar on TV?
@9:10 Been to the watermelon many many times, great track! Seen a lot of amazing races there.
The person that comes to mind when I hear Late models - Junior Hanley weird he wasn't mentioned at all here conceding his huge effect one late model racing.
Loved the video! where I live we have Limited late models, Pro late models and Outlaw Super Late models Love them all!
Really enjoy your videos. Seen the vintage class from lancaster motor speedway on this one.... That is my home track. I live 15 mins away from the big half mile. Keep up the amazing work slap. Still think dirt supers are the best 👌
Another awesome video. The #21 winged dirt late-model was David Hilliker. Great guy races all around Michigan.
Thanks for this great piece of info 👍
About coughed up my coffee this morning walking my dog when I saw the #1 Cochran car in the video. I remember watching that car race at Challenger speedway with my dad when I was really little. That brought back really good memories from when I was little with him. The place is closed down but the sign is still up
That was really good, thanks for taking the time to research that
Been planning on selling my drift car and getting back into a Late Model again soon. This video just gave me some more motivation!
Up here in Indiana, I got the Outlaw Late Models and the CRA Arca series. For dirt racing, Perigon, Bloomington, and Brownstown are all great and of course Indianapolis has a dirt track, but for asphalt I really like Winchester, and of course you got a drag strip, a short track in Lucas Oil Raceway Park and the big IMS. And, those winged Outlaws have raced at the Anderson XXX drome and they ran a figure 8 race which was nuts! Indiana loves the modifieds and late model stocks
Another absolute banger of a video by S1apSh0es. Awesome job!
The races held at my hometown track of Highway 92 Raceway have the limited late models at their highest division. Usually, we have about three to four guys who show up their consistently. My personal favorite one is a black, orange, and silver number 3 car, which combines Dale Earnhardt's car with Kevin Harvick's 2004 scheme. So far, I have yet to see him win in it, but the driver of that thing can wheel a car better than anybody else and I know of. He even dominated the warriors class, which are basically street cars gutted of all their electronic components, and only had to sell it off because it was getting too expensive for him to maintain two cars for two different divisions. His name is Dylan Osborn.
So if you ever come by the Gering-Minitare area of Scottsbluff from around late May to the end of September, come on down to the track on a Saturday night at 6:00 p.m., and I'm sure you'll have a great time at the last great and active quarter mile oval in Nebraska! I will be in the booth calling the action for the 2022 season!
Good luck on next year!
Can I just say, (this has nothing to do with the video), even though I love motorsports, I've never been a Nascar fan, but your videos are just so damn good I can't help but go down the rabbit hole and watch every single one of them. Keep up the work man, your videos are awesome 👌
I’ll say thank you to introducing me to late model racing. I’ve been a nascar fan for years but just now realized there are multiple short tracks near me. I need to check some out
loving all your video's!
THANK YOU, UA-cam needs more asphalt late model videos. There’s like nothing other than full races. It’s my favorite class and I wanted to watch more since I’ll be racing in it this year lol
So happy to see another wonderful vid
I love these videos, keep up the good work. 😉
Great choice of subject. I think its one of those things people are wondering but just never look into. Good job Slap!
i wasn't all that interested in nascar before i found this channel. the history is great and i love the videos. kudos slapshoes. awesome work.
I love asphalt late models but my true passion is dirt late model racing
Love a good S1apSh0es video on my Birthday! BTW, greetings from Ireland!
This is a fantastic series of videos
Hey S1ap, awesome video! How about a video on some other classes like this one digging into the history of it. Street stock, pure stock, modifieds, 4 cyl, etc.
As a long time UK NASCAR fan, I've always been curious about the ecosystem below the main series, so this was a really enjoyable watch. Next up is trying to understand the Tourismo Carretera structure in Argentina!
My first in-person race was a modified late model race, from back when Nascar still used vastly different cars in the Grand Nationals and the cup, at Hialeah Speedway in South Florida, and this particular series followed the models for the Grand Nationals series. I still remember the name of the driver who won: Ricky Bryant, in a Lance Foods sponsored number 5 Pontiac. The indigestion I earned from the chili dog, multiple corn dogs, and greasy funnel cake I ate as my parents devoured Cuban Sandwiches was delicious and well worth it. My next race would be the 300 mile Busch Grand National Series race at Homestead-Miami, followed by the Winston Cup Race the next day. Our seats were on the front straight, right before turn 1. My gramps had a pit radio scanner.
Great to see you back Slap
Love this video! Saw 2 of my hometracks, but you kinda skipped straight from stocks to supers😭 late models sportsmans are a huge part in between the two, great video tho!
I genuinely appreciate when you upload videos lol
I live in the Northeast and when the Modified tour started 2 new divisions got pushed. 1st one was the Sk Modified. Pretty self-explanatory. They are identical to the Tour Modifieds but with some engine changes. Then there were the Pro-Stocks. Pro-Stocks became the top division in places like Seekonk. What I dont understand is the differences between Pro-Stocks and Late Models. Seekonk has both divisions, but they look the same. Id love to see a video on Pro-Stocks.
This has cleared up a big misconception of mine. When I heard the name "Late Model," I thought it was about running late for races 😂, but in all seriousness, another great explanation video S1ap 👍
Cool to see Ray Dillon pop up in this video. His late model setup video is still here on youtube. I've always loved the late model division and growing up 25 minutes from Jennerstown Speedway, I saw some great late model races.
Such a great video thank you