Outreach leaders react to newly enacted Portland homeless camping ban

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  • Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
  • The ban prohibits homeless people from camping on public property, streets and sidewalks if they have access to alternative shelters.
    Video correction: Portland City Council passed the camping ban on Wednesday, May 8.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 77

  • @dearfinesoul
    @dearfinesoul 2 місяці тому +18

    It’s amazing how anyone would overlook the law and general decorum to allow blocking public walkways with tents, drugs and crime

    • @dearfinesoul
      @dearfinesoul 2 місяці тому

      @@blackops844 Anywhere but the sidewalks . This isn't Rocket Science or Brain surgery.. When you infect the general population with sick people You get a sick society which Portland has right now!
      If you don't want to go to a shelter Go under a bridge, behind a dumpster, to the park , But Get the hell off the sidewalks, common sense 101

    • @dearfinesoul
      @dearfinesoul 2 місяці тому

      @@blackops844 Anywhere else but get off the damn sidewalks!
      When you infect the general population with sick people you get a Sick Society which is what Portland has right now!

    • @dearfinesoul
      @dearfinesoul Місяць тому +1

      @@blackops844 just stay off the sidewalks

    • @Scorch1028
      @Scorch1028 Місяць тому

      Portland city leaders have a very lax attitude about drug use and drug addiction. Not surprisingly, Portland has a massive homeless population, and many of these individuals camp out on the sidewalks.

  • @ohlordy2042
    @ohlordy2042 2 місяці тому +13

    Are there any sane, law abiding, hard working taxpayers left in Portland?
    Or have all those who actually contributed to a functioning, livable city, already given up and left?

    • @JesseePDX
      @JesseePDX 2 місяці тому +1

      im here still...but feel dumber by the day

  • @shoegurl8849
    @shoegurl8849 2 місяці тому +15

    The Homeless Industrial Complex disagrees with the camping ban? I'm shocked. I'm shocked, I tell you!

    • @JesseePDX
      @JesseePDX 2 місяці тому +1

      this

    • @cheaptshirt
      @cheaptshirt 2 місяці тому

      this!

    • @shoegurl8849
      @shoegurl8849 2 місяці тому

      @@blackops844 If you don't know or haven't figured it out by now, then I can't help you.

    • @shoegurl8849
      @shoegurl8849 Місяць тому

      @@blackops844 I can say the same for you.
      Now go run along now and try to stay out of grown folks' business.

  • @tonyhann2714
    @tonyhann2714 2 місяці тому +18

    I get that the issue is difficult but allowing people who have a choice between drugs and rules chose drugs. Laws are needed to force people to get help. The current let them live on the streets is definitely not working. As a resident of outer se my patience is running low.

    • @eastbaykidd8574
      @eastbaykidd8574 2 місяці тому

      @@blackops844 He know plenty about the human condition. He clearly understands human nature, something that lefty liberal progressives can never seem to figure out.

    • @eastbaykidd8574
      @eastbaykidd8574 2 місяці тому

      @@blackops844 You know NOTHING about "fascism", you silly little child. You're just the typical lefty progressives, uttering buzz phrases and scolding other when you disagree with somebody but can't reply with an intelligent argument. Yes, many homeless people DO choose drugs, that's how they wound up in that position in the first place. The drugs were/are more important than any job, relationship, housing arrangement that they previously had. Seen it happen to numerous people firsthand, so don't pretend otherwise. 😐

    • @tonyhann2714
      @tonyhann2714 2 місяці тому

      @blackops844 i do, actually. That still doesn't give people suffering from addiction or mental health because they want to choose to do anything they want. A sumple one is that if they refuse treatment, there has to be a legal recourse for forcing them to gain treatment. The current plan of letting them live on the street is just doing nothing but allowing bad behaviors to continue. I do not see how allowing drug addicted people the choice of continuing to abuse drugs or facilities that dont allow drugs and it is no shock they pick drug abuse instead of change.

    • @tonyhann2714
      @tonyhann2714 2 місяці тому +2

      @blackops844 so if I want to camp in your yard. Pile trash up, defecate in your yard, leave my belongings around blocking your walking paths, that's ok? If there are facilities then 100% I do not see why there they are giving anyone a choice to pick between the two.

  • @caracoates4834
    @caracoates4834 2 місяці тому +13

    I can't believe four years later this city is still arguing about camping on side walks. Why does someone struggling with addiction have more right to the sidewalk than the disabled citizen trying to get from point a to point b. And honestly none of these services are going to have any funding at all if they run all the tax payers out of town. Which is already happening, the government is talking about cutting emergency responders budgets. Now who puts out tent fires and gives out of Narcan like candy?

  • @cvrart
    @cvrart 2 місяці тому +6

    Enforcing laws on the use of public right-of-ways is not criminalizing homelessness, any more than enforcing laws on shoplifting is criminalizing poverty or desperation. If you don't protect businesses from retail theft, businesses will die. If you don't protect the city from being turned into a sprawling settlement for the destitute,, the city will die. The solution isn't to be more permissive of criminal behavior by those who are desperate - the solution is to actually help those who are desperate, while at the same time enforcing existing laws to preserve order and public safety.

    • @michaelaxton5005
      @michaelaxton5005 Місяць тому +1

      And how do we help the homeless? Homelessness experts tell us that laws like this make it harder for the homeless to recover from it.

    • @cvrart
      @cvrart Місяць тому

      @@michaelaxton5005 yes, the homelessness "experts". All they want is to perpetuate this condition in our cities so they can convince cities to funnel more tax dollars their way. There will be less homelessness on the streets of Portland if the city doesn't spend so much money on enabling and accommodating it. Portland's approach has been attracting destitution and addiction to its streets. Focus on helping small businesses to survive so that the city can be vibrant and have a strong economy that can provide decent paying jobs. If the businesses die, eventually the city will die.

    • @michaelaxton5005
      @michaelaxton5005 Місяць тому

      ​@@cvrart I see. I hear three ideas here: 1. People working on homelessness make too much money while producing too few results in reducing homelessness. 2. Homelessness is caused by a city enabling and accommodating it. 3. We should help small business instead of helping the homeless.
      Unless I'm missing something, I think the third is easy to dismiss as a false dichotomy. Can't we do both at the same time? And doesn't reducing homelessness help businesses? As far as the first two, though, these can be answered with data. Where are you getting your data?

  • @jamesuberman5856
    @jamesuberman5856 2 місяці тому +8

    Those financially vested in continuing and expanding homeless are against the camping ban.

  • @TheGeriatricMillennial-80
    @TheGeriatricMillennial-80 2 місяці тому +4

    "high rents" are a national problem. And it doesn't matter if there were apartments for $200. When you don't want to work or can't mentally hold down a job because you're a junkie, it doesn't matter how cheap the rent is, you still can't afford it.
    I believe anyone willing to work 40 hours a week deserves a roof over their head and food in their bellies and I will support any initiative to provide that, and i don't care what the job is... but I draw the line and cash for bums initiatives where we just hand out money.

    • @michaelaxton5005
      @michaelaxton5005 Місяць тому

      Where are you getting this idea that the homeless don't want to work? I'm hearing the exact opposite.

    • @TheGeriatricMillennial-80
      @TheGeriatricMillennial-80 Місяць тому

      @@michaelaxton5005 my eyeballs.

    • @michaelaxton5005
      @michaelaxton5005 Місяць тому

      ​@@TheGeriatricMillennial-80 And what are you seeing?

  • @BJoySen
    @BJoySen 2 місяці тому +22

    Portland is so concerned about pronouns it can't solve homelessness and urban camping. To call a dude with a beard she is a major insult to all women young and old.

    • @dearfinesoul
      @dearfinesoul 2 місяці тому +3

      Exactly 👍🏻 Portland is Sick 🤒

    • @loganadams3474
      @loganadams3474 2 місяці тому

      these people are literally on the street actually helping the people who are homeless instead of making useless comments on the internet, you are the one concerned about pronouns here look in the fucking mirror and practice what you preach

    • @joeypollack5651
      @joeypollack5651 2 місяці тому +2

      Hey. Someone else gets it :)

    • @joeypollack5651
      @joeypollack5651 2 місяці тому +2

      I have a few adjectives for Tina 😊

    • @joeypollack5651
      @joeypollack5651 2 місяці тому

      I bet I could upset it more with adjectives than it's little boy looking pronoun

  • @Smilejumpfart
    @Smilejumpfart 2 місяці тому +2

    Who’s against it?!?

  • @heartofodds
    @heartofodds 2 місяці тому +2

    Minimum wage is supposed to be a lot higher. You can't dehumanize people in every way and be good people.

  • @1signalstrength
    @1signalstrength 2 місяці тому +12

    At 1:27 of the video a woman says some homeless don't want to go to shelter beds. What she really means is that it is harder to use drugs in a shelter than living in an illegal encampment. She honestly believes she is a homeless advocate but in reality she is their worst nightmare. She would rather enable addiction than help the homeless to get clean and sober.

    • @michaelaxton5005
      @michaelaxton5005 Місяць тому +1

      From what I hear, the best solution for addiction is stable housing followed by rehab. And that drug addiction is a disease, not a moral failing. Where are you getting this idea that the homeless is caused by drug use, and that drug use is a moral failing?

    • @1signalstrength
      @1signalstrength Місяць тому

      @michaelaxton5005 Housing Multnomah Now was a well funded program that would have provided stable rent free housing for a year. It was a spectacular failure for the Housing First argument. The best solution for addiction is to help the person stop using drugs. Since camps are to addiction what unmasked indoor events were to Covid we need a zero tolerance policy on illegal camping.

    • @michaelaxton5005
      @michaelaxton5005 Місяць тому

      @@1signalstrength Where can I learn more about this? Where did you hear that HMN was a spectacular failure? Where are you getting this from?

    • @1signalstrength
      @1signalstrength Місяць тому

      @@michaelaxton5005 Read the Oregonian article on HMN from Feb 27,2024. The Oregonian usually tries to suppress any connection between homelessness and addiction but this article reported the fact that HMN failed because 99% of the people camped at the west end of the Steel Bridge suffer from addiction. A similar housing first initiative in Seattle was also a spectacular failure. Camps are to addiction what unmasked indoor events were to Covid. We need a zero tolerance policy on illegal camping.

  • @sweetliquidsnake
    @sweetliquidsnake 2 місяці тому +2

    Its their fault for wasting all the money aready thrown at problem, youll have to cut off non profits and advocating for it who keep making it a money vacuum because if the problems solved they're out of work

  • @daviddooley5361
    @daviddooley5361 2 місяці тому +8

    Good luck getting rent lowered. The homeless do have a right to survive and have a place to sleep, at the same time those of us who are not homeless do have a right to be able to walk down the sidewalks and not run into tents blocking the sidwalks.

    • @Sufferingsassafrass
      @Sufferingsassafrass 2 місяці тому

      Walk or wheel. The disabled community can’t do either on our stupid sidewalks now. And they sued the city for it.

    • @heartofodds
      @heartofodds 2 місяці тому +1

      Everybody else wants to underpay and kick people once they're down, now Portland too.

  • @richard3716
    @richard3716 2 місяці тому +10

    this dudes name is tina?

    • @MarvinThiessen
      @MarvinThiessen 2 місяці тому

      It's a "transtestical".

    • @eastbaykidd8574
      @eastbaykidd8574 2 місяці тому +3

      Interesting question, did the drug abuse result in gender confusion or the other way around?

    • @lostinthedesert-hp4bw
      @lostinthedesert-hp4bw Місяць тому

      @@eastbaykidd8574 I don’t think it’s drug abuse as much as it’s a desperate need for attention. For years these clowns were pandered to by the left/woke as being “ground breaking trail blazers.” Now that REALITY settled in, most people just see it for what it really is… a mental illness.

  • @011-L
    @011-L 2 місяці тому +8

    Tina lolololol

  • @carloscamara1097
    @carloscamara1097 Місяць тому +1

    If you really care about them, take them to your place then, I’m glad it passed and I hope is enforced, I’m tired of these so called homeless stealing from us hardworking taxpayers

  • @DrthGrth
    @DrthGrth Місяць тому

    Those fire bans are not enforced, at least not out here in SE. Gimme a break. This is all posturing, no teeth to these policies.

  • @casienwhey
    @casienwhey Місяць тому

    How many of those homeless advocates do you suppose let homeless people move into their own homes?

  • @TheGeriatricMillennial-80
    @TheGeriatricMillennial-80 2 місяці тому +4

    there's a place for people who don't want to assimilate with society. It's called Florida. Go there.

  • @Scorch1028
    @Scorch1028 Місяць тому

    Portland’s “Live and Let Live attitude” towards drug use, created the massive homeless problem.

  • @dieplam4943
    @dieplam4943 4 дні тому

    If sleeping on public property is a right cuz homeless people has no where to sleep, then is stealing for food a right cuz hungry people has no food eat? What a stupid argument.
    The homeless advocates should house the homeless in their own home if they care for the homeless people so much. The homeless issue will disappear if all the homeless advocates out there adopt one and house them in their own home. Taxpayers deserve to enjoy the public area that their tax dollars paid for without putting up with the filthy & dangerous conditions caused by homeless encampments.
    Instead, the homeless advocates just take the grant monies from the gov to pretend like they care about homeless people while laughing all the way to the bank. Homeless advocates just want more homeless people because they profit from them. These homeless advocates are only crying now cuz their revenue stream might become smaller after this ruling. We have lots of shelter spaces that the homeless refuses to sleep in then go around & complains that they don't get help, this ruling should address this problem.

  • @coolhandluuuke
    @coolhandluuuke Місяць тому

    "variety of perspectives" my ass

  • @kattycat3502
    @kattycat3502 2 місяці тому +2

    Let them eat cake.

  • @deborahlozano7134
    @deborahlozano7134 2 місяці тому +3

    Wait - she?

  • @KelvinAung95
    @KelvinAung95 2 місяці тому

    We need to raise minimum wage and rent at the same time

  • @terenceflanagan1225
    @terenceflanagan1225 2 місяці тому +3

    I've seen that Tina thing on Tri met. In a dress . With 4 day stubble and kielbasa

  • @jamesuberman5856
    @jamesuberman5856 2 місяці тому +1

    In Portland, the "she" need a shave.