I've watched several YT videos on this subject and by far, this one is the most straight forward. I tried various dyes from the other YT videos, and the two products here work the best. Good Job!
I bought some Odie's Oil on your recommendation, directly from their website. They even threw in a non-abrasive pad that I chopped a piece out of just large enough to apply just the couple of coats I needed for an all-maple neck. It feels absolutely glassy-smooth, yet with a little tactile satin-y grip. For anyone who is thinking about building a kit or partscaster, this is the way to go so you don't have to spray-gloss a neck. And yes, it's like $50 USD for a jar, but it only takes a comically-small amount of oil to finish a neck.
Great work there Brad! A while ago I finished my first cigar box guitar. The neck and fretboard were made from white oak and being a cheapskate, the dye I used for the fretboard was liquid shoe polish :-D It covered nice and evenly, the colour is great and it seems to be holding up well. Look forward to you playing your new acoustic. I think you're going to love it!
@@BradAngove funny you mention pen ink. I did a black edged blue burst on a kit I built and for the blue in the middle I used blue fountain pen ink. Looks incredibly good!
The guitar looks pretty good. I also like the satin finish you put on the neck with the Odie's oil. I have 4 different products of Odie's and like it quite a bit.
Hi, @@BradAngove i would like to darken or even ebonize it if i could. It does not seems sealed. I used some sandpaper on a test area and it seems it is easy to get to the wood. Rustins Wood Dye did nothing to it. Fiebings Leather Dye did darken the grains only.
@tetanusforbreakfast3500 roasted maple is really tight. If it’s sealed the dye won’t soak in. If it’s not you should be able to dye it. You could also throw a thinned down coat of black lacquer on it to really darken it up.
Hey would you have an recommendation for coloring a fretboard white, I'm trying to build an all white jazz master similar to the Fender silent siren telecaster and trying to figure out the best way to go about it. If you get to this thanks in advance!
Indian ink can do this too ? I'm had a Maple fingerboard and i can't Buy another neck . So the Rosewood or ebony style is My choice and i hope can do this or keep the Maple fingerboard 🙄
@@BradAngove Thanks for the reply. After you have applied this, do you goat the fretboard with lemon oil? or? Mainly asking how to keep the dye from not getting on your fingers during use. Or does this not happen ? Also can't seem to find the link you mention? THX
It normally comes off the plastic inlays but sometimes the abalone or mother of pearl can go a little darker but its easy enough to tape off if your worried.
Brad, is it possible to stain the fret board different colors without it wearing away from the strings?? I wanted to put a design on my fretboard without inlaying it into the wood.
I only use Boiled Linseed oil on purple heart or amaranth as I think it always looks dry! I also dye it and it looks much better. Also one or two coats of tru oil will also work and its a harder finish so lasts also.
When you said, "I'm gonna dye it." I thought you said, "I'm gonna diet." And I thought, no. You just need looser shirts. 🤣😂🤣😂😂 Another great video. I always learn something new. Great job Brad!
so if you can just put any finish on a fretboard how come you only ever see necks come in light brown, dark brown, and black? seems like people oughta be putting their rainbow of rit dye to better use lol
The short answer is you don’t. Lots of the more specialty builders are doing colorful fretboards etc now. It’s just that many of the colors only look good on lighter woods for the most part.
How different is this oil from a tung oil finish? I'd tung oiled a one-piece maple neck, frets and back - best thing I ever did (and thanks for the video on that). Is this oil comparable?
Wha!...No white fretboard! (Just kidding) I always find it amusing that so many people relic (or trash imho) guitars to make them appear old or "worn looking" but no one wants a relic fretboard too. Nothing like dirty finger smudges on a white or light colored fretboard :)
That was some mighty fine oiling, rubbing and buffing. You can see the years of experience in every stroke.
Gotta keep up the practice. Vocational skills require maintenance.
I've watched several YT videos on this subject and by far, this one is the most straight forward. I tried various dyes from the other YT videos, and the two products here work the best. Good Job!
Thanks Joe
Looks great Brad. I like the product too. Wish me luck finding it in Australia! Cheers for the vid.😊
That’s came up really nice! Good work. I like the satin finish of the hard wax oil. 👍
Thanks. Glad you like it.
Man that is some good stuff...might have to raid the change jar...as always great work brad.you are appreciated. ...
Thanks. Glad you like it.
Thanks, Brad! This helps.
I bought some Odie's Oil on your recommendation, directly from their website. They even threw in a non-abrasive pad that I chopped a piece out of just large enough to apply just the couple of coats I needed for an all-maple neck. It feels absolutely glassy-smooth, yet with a little tactile satin-y grip. For anyone who is thinking about building a kit or partscaster, this is the way to go so you don't have to spray-gloss a neck. And yes, it's like $50 USD for a jar, but it only takes a comically-small amount of oil to finish a neck.
100% agree
Outstanding as usual!
Thanks Michael!
Great work there Brad!
A while ago I finished my first cigar box guitar. The neck and fretboard were made from white oak and being a cheapskate, the dye I used for the fretboard was liquid shoe polish :-D It covered nice and evenly, the colour is great and it seems to be holding up well.
Look forward to you playing your new acoustic. I think you're going to love it!
Thanks Tony. There are lots of options for dye that people don’t think of. Even refill pen ink can work. It’s just not very uv resistant.
@@BradAngove funny you mention pen ink. I did a black edged blue burst on a kit I built and for the blue in the middle I used blue fountain pen ink. Looks incredibly good!
Glad to hear it
The guitar looks pretty good. I also like the satin finish you put on the neck with the Odie's oil. I have 4 different products of Odie's and like it quite a bit.
They make good stuff
Thank you for helpful tips as always; I'm going to have to try that Odie's Oil...looks great! 🤘
It’s pretty nice. I really like it.
I like the results. I should try that next time I have nice wood grain but odd colour.
Indeed. It’s definitely a decent option.
could you advise us on how to do the same thing on Roasted Maple fretboards ?
You’re just trying to darken it? Is it sealed?
Hi, @@BradAngove
i would like to darken or even ebonize it if i could.
It does not seems sealed. I used some sandpaper on a test area and it seems it is easy to get to the wood.
Rustins Wood Dye did nothing to it.
Fiebings Leather Dye did darken the grains only.
@tetanusforbreakfast3500 roasted maple is really tight. If it’s sealed the dye won’t soak in. If it’s not you should be able to dye it. You could also throw a thinned down coat of black lacquer on it to really darken it up.
Hey would you have an recommendation for coloring a fretboard white, I'm trying to build an all white jazz master similar to the Fender silent siren telecaster and trying to figure out the best way to go about it. If you get to this thanks in advance!
Mohawk used to have a white pickling stain. I’m not sure if they still do. You could also simply paint it white.
How do you keep the dye off the frets?
There’s no need to keep the dye off the frets. You can’t dye metal.
Looking good thanks
Thanks Fred
Indian ink can do this too ?
I'm had a Maple fingerboard and i can't Buy another neck .
So the Rosewood or ebony style is My choice and i hope can do this or keep the Maple fingerboard 🙄
Yes that ink should work.
Do you reckon this will work on a maple (non-laminaed) neck as well?
As long as it isn’t sealed.
What is the brand of the black dye in the white bottle ? Do you have a link ?
It’s Mohawk’s NGR dye stain. I have some in the amazon link in the description.
@@BradAngove Thanks for the reply. After you have applied this, do you goat the fretboard with lemon oil? or? Mainly asking how to keep the dye from not getting on your fingers during use. Or does this not happen ? Also can't seem to find the link you mention? THX
Once it’s dry that shouldn’t be an issue, but yes I generally oil the fretboard after.
@@BradAngove One other question. What a mount of time should be sufficient to dry, more or less. Thanks again.
45 minutes
Where to buy this dye and wax oil.?
The solomusicgear link in the description.
What was the name of the dye?
NGR Dye Stain.
Will this dye the inlays ?
It will if they’re a porous material like wood. Otherwise it can darken them a bit but you can clean them up reasonably well.
Would you have to do anything different if the fretboard had larger inlays, like a trapezoid inlay, or does the stain wipe right off?
It normally comes off the plastic inlays but sometimes the abalone or mother of pearl can go a little darker but its easy enough to tape off if your worried.
What Stu said. The stain doesn’t tend to be an issue with most inlays if you don’t let it sit on there.
Brad, is it possible to stain the fret board different colors without it wearing away from the strings?? I wanted to put a design on my fretboard without inlaying it into the wood.
I don’t think you need to worry about it wearing away too much. Keep in mind, fender does fully coated fretboards on many of its guitars.
@@BradAngove thanks a ton bro. Been searching for that answer and could not get a good one. My idea is to mark the frets with stain instead of inlays.
Should be interesting
I just ordered a electric guitar from solomusicgear and i am going to paint it with dupli-color
wish me luck im going to need it
I hope it goes well for you.
What finish will you put on a purple heart fretboard so it wont deoxidize?
I only use Boiled Linseed oil on purple heart or amaranth as I think it always looks dry! I also dye it and it looks much better. Also one or two coats of tru oil will also work and its a harder finish so lasts also.
Realistically you can use pretty much whatever finish you want.
That odie's oil looks great brad. Wonder if its sold in the U.K? Will have to investigate.
I’d be surprised if it wasn’t available there.
Where the inlays permanently dyed or can they be cleaned up?
The dye mostly wiped right off them. They’re plastic.
@@BradAngove Thx
What dye are you using ?
The NGR dye stain from Mohawk.
I used rosewood for the fingerboard, but have dyed in other applications. Someday I will send a picture.
Can I use solid color or enamel?
I wouldn’t recommend enameling a fret board, but technically you could.
Oo okay thank you. How about wood stain. Itsokay?
Yes that’s fine.
Hay Brad could U do a follow up vid in 6 to 12 months to show How the oil darkened, if it's not to much fuss
If there is a noticeable change in that time, which I find fairly unlikely, I will do a follow up video to show everyone.
Brad thanks for the video, does the dye wear off with playing? - cheers
Not generally. The dye is in the wood. If you wear off the wood it will.
FYI, been playing and building for 63 years this coming April.
Yay, I'm the first to like this video.
I never even noticed you did that lol 😆
Hello Brad. Good video . How many times have you done that. 1st time I’m guessing.
This would be my 3rd or 4th time dyeing a board on one of my guitars. 1st time specifically using Odies dark over it.
When you said, "I'm gonna dye it." I thought you said, "I'm gonna diet." And I thought, no. You just need looser shirts. 🤣😂🤣😂😂 Another great video. I always learn something new. Great job Brad!
If I diet I will need to replace my wardrobe with mediums. I’m not sure I can afford that sort of thing.
@@BradAngove HAHA!
so if you can just put any finish on a fretboard how come you only ever see necks come in light brown, dark brown, and black? seems like people oughta be putting their rainbow of rit dye to better use lol
The short answer is you don’t. Lots of the more specialty builders are doing colorful fretboards etc now. It’s just that many of the colors only look good on lighter woods for the most part.
Not sure if you noticed, but you still have some of that filler on the body binding. Otherwise, its looking great
Yup, I have to scrape that again after I spray my amber, so I’ve left it for now.
How different is this oil from a tung oil finish? I'd tung oiled a one-piece maple neck, frets and back - best thing I ever did (and thanks for the video on that). Is this oil comparable?
The result tends to be relatively similar. Hard wax oil has a bit of a different feel to it, but I like both options.
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Wha!...No white fretboard! (Just kidding) I always find it amusing that so many people relic (or trash imho) guitars to make them appear old or "worn looking" but no one wants a relic fretboard too. Nothing like dirty finger smudges on a white or light colored fretboard :)
Couple of gouge marks to make it look like Edward scissor hands was “shredding”?
Prevention is better than cure!
😲WOW Thats expensive oil. Just looked on Ebay, its on sale from £54.60 to £204.06.😲
… yikes
So not easy to get in the UK then…
@@BradAngove I will keep looking around.
Amazon UK £85
Crimson guitars probably has something suitable that isn’t crazy far off in terms of end result.
Brad
Looks nice
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Thanks David
Does it effects the sound?
Not at all