although I've always seen the mosin as a pretty average fire arm, but after watching this, I can see it has some very good features.It could be said that this is the rifle that won the second world war since Germany broke its back against Russia...that alone should earn this rifle respect.
Great review! You cover everything most people want to know about the gun in an easy to follow yet interesting way. Makes me even more excited to get my Mosin later today! Nice action photos from various wars in the intros, too.
Thank you for the kind comments! I recommend a local gun shop where you can see the rifle before you buy it. You want to inspect it yourself and make sure for certain if it's the best you can get. That's what I did.
When first buying one it can be advisable in my experience to completely disassemble the bold so make sure there is no packing grease within its workings, I believe it is called cormaline or some such name. Mineral oil is safe for the bolt and excelent for cleaning the grease out of the workings. If you get a Mosin with "sticky bolt syndrome" you can almost be more or less certain that either the breach or part of the bolt has packing grease that has melted and then hardened inside it.
I have to second this comment. I just got two of the Mosin's yesterday and am looking forward to shooting them. Have some cleaning to do first and then down to the range. Thanks for the videos!
Great videos - well history backup also added. To me you have extraordinary communication (which pass on your actions clearly and your video is well builded and compressed video message - you are well grounded speaker. Thank you.
thx for the vid ive had my mosin for awhile but i haven't shot it at all, this makes me feel more confident in myself with my rifle, i love guns but i wasn't raised in a gun environment and ive only had my licence alittle longer than the gun so it's intimidating to be around them and handle them feels so good :)
Just a note on dissassembly of the bolt . They cut the fork on the guide bar so it fits onto the firing pin then twist and out pops the pin under spring pressure , there is as you will notice on the cocking piece a horizontal cut corresponding to the firing pin alignment this way when you put it back in you can't get the pin in the wrong depth works every time
You can actually just push the bolt back in the reciever without touching the trigger. If memory serves, the Carcano required the trigger to be depressed to put the bolt back. The M91/30, M44, Kar98k, and M1917 bolts can simply be pushed back in.
"The bullet is a mad thing only the bayonet knows what it is about" - Alexander Suvorov You should've killed the spider with a bayonet for it knows how to kill it.
This is one of the highest quality reviews on the Mosin Nagant 91/30 I have seen. Just a few things to note though. Single loading is safe, however it can cause problems with the extractor engaging the rim. Also mass production ended in 1945, however there are examples of 91/30's that were produced in 1946, 1947, and 1950 at the Izhevsk arsenal. What year and arsenal is your 91/30? Thanks for posting.
when you dismantle the bolt you can completely dismantle the firingpin from the hammer bu using the split end of the guiding rail as a wrench, that`s the way they used to do that back in the day. you don\t need any wood, book or anything.
Mosin Nagants are $80-$130, Kar98k rifles can be anywhere from $250-$2000 depending on a number of factors. Your profile says you're from Ireland, so the prices there are different than here in the US. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Your videos are professional quality and very informative! I'm thinking about getting a Nagant, Well actually, I've wanted one for a while but am just now getting around to pulling the trigger (too terrible of a joke?) Fantastic upload and would you recommend any specific places to buy a Mosin from? Thanks for the great video!
@lasseriks they cost usually from 79.99-139.99 depending on how lucky the deal or if the stamping is Tula or a hex receiver or both Tula+hex receiver. M44 variants are a different story.
Better idea: buy a Yugoslavian model 24/47 or 48. Both are very high quality Mauser rifles and BOTH are easily found UNFIRED for about 200-300 dollars. I considered a Mosin myself, then I realized that an extra 100 or so bucks could get me a real Mauser in mint condition. The m24/47s will be a used rifle that was taken out of storage after WWII, checked for function, and had any necessary parts replacements performed. The M48 was a new production rifle and was often stored without seeing service
@something01992 That seems to be the most common year and arsenal here in the states even though 1942 production numbers were larger than 1943 at Izhevsk. Oh and by the way, when I said single loading I meant when you load a round without using the magazine, i.e. just placing it into the receiver, sometimes the bolt either won't close or is much more difficult to close. Happy shooting.
Fantastic video! I just bought one myself, and I really enjoyed your video, however I do have one concern: Those sure look like live rounds that you're cycling through the rifle to demonstrate the action...
@theTNoutdoorsman98 Depends entirely on your body. To me, they all feel the same. Recoil is the last thing I think of when I'm about to pull the trigger, exceptions to .500 S&W, .44 Magnum, etc.
@FoodFolksandGuns The ones I prefer are Polish, I got them from a local gun store while they had them in stock, you should be able to find them on line. Avoid the stainless steel ones, those are a PIA to use, at least in my case.
@FoodFolksandGuns Finnish Mosin Nagants have a reputation for excellence. The M39 rifles are supposedly the best. And I'm glad to hear that my videos are helpful, it means that I've done my job.
@theTNoutdoorsman98 Thanks, I'm taking a summer semester right now, but I'll be back to finish this series ins August. I have part 2 almost done, but I still need about 5-10 minutes of footage covering cleaning accessories.
I never said that it WAS a K98k I said it was very close. Clone IS going too far in everyday terms but for a reenactor it WOULD function more or less as a clone. And fussy with ammo? How long are the 8mm rounds that you are using :0? PS: I have an m24/47 and it's a honey. PSS: Great video series! I learned a few nuances about the guns!
hey man thanks for all of your vids you do it very well and always please us with your complete vids (i meant it answers all your questions) but can you also compare these awesome weapons with each other ? like is Kar 98 better or mosin nagat? thanks please answer me
I'd say mosin, if you don't mind a bit of work and fiddling, you can improve the trigger to be more responsive and quicker then the k98k, it is generally sturdier, easier to clean from my experience, and the ammo is generally less expensive. Not to mention it costs about 10% of the k98k!
PS: The M48 is almost an exact clone of the K98k (the Yugoslavians had the tooling after the German occupation of their country) while the m24/47 is an earlier version of the Mauser 98. If you wanted to, you could blue the m48's bolt and make it look exactly like a K98k.
I've improved since making this video. Also, it's impossible to cycle the bolt without moving your heard, otherwise you gouge out your eyeball with the cocking piece of the bolt.
No that's not correct. The M48 and 24/47 have intermediate length actions derived from a Belgian 98 model, whereas the Kar98k has a full length one. The intermediate length action's a bit shorter and might be more fussy with ammo, because you have less room for error and you might get issues with rounds getting hung up on the feed ramp. The rear sights on a 98k start at 100 meters with the 24/47 and m48 start at 200. Additionally the handguard on the 24/47 and m48 extends behind the rear sight.
@Thatevilmidget Well, seeing as I've never shot a Finnish Mosin Nagant before, I'll have to take your word for it. But there's not doubt in my mind that the M39 is the best looking of all the Mosin Nagants out there. I especially like the semi-pistol grip on those honeys and the wood they use (tikka? Or something like that) is easy on the eyes.
I just bought that same kit today for around 175. ( I have a soft spot for world war modles -^_^-) I was wondering how durable the gun is and how easy is it to find replacement parts? Also how easy is it to find the ammunition for the firearm?
@1971Chevelle502 A Kar98k of course. 8mm ammo is easier to find, and I'm just a biased SOB that loves Mausers more than Enfields. Both are good choices though.
mine shoots slightly low too. i haven't tried it with the bayonet. apparently they all have different behaviors without the bayonet... some shoot high without it, some shoot low without it. but all seem to shoot to the right without it. at least i know where THAT behavior comes from.
If you don't have to pull the trigger to to get the bolt in then your trigger assembly is probably very worn. SLAMMING one in place might work but you run the risk of sheering metal off of part of the trigger catch and damaging an otherwise rugged, dependable, accurate, and inexpensive little gem. Treat your weapons with care if you wish for them to do the same to you.
@cwbyfan223 I got what you meant. I personally never single load at the range, I was just doing it for demonstration purposes on video. In a range video that I'll put up within the coming weeks, you'll see me instructing two new shooters to push the round into the magazine before chambering it.
9:55 There is a video you can watch here ua-cam.com/video/SPGUBnEHlTE/v-deo.html --and there is an old footage of what I believe to be a Soviet officer or possibly an NCO demonstrating reloading the Mosin with stripper clips. You'll find in that footage, he doesn't tilt the top round and lever it in. He actually hooks his thumb on top of the rounds and pushes them down like that. I time stamped it at the 3:11 mark in the comments.
If I cock it can I rotate the cocking piece to take pressure of the firing pin? I believe the Russians liked to leave the bolt open to allow air throw the barrel to prevent corrosion. This is a super video by the way. I have seen lots of shooting and customising videos but none that cover the basics. I don't know anybody with one of these rifles, though we do have them here in the UK, and videos like this help plug the gaps.
@something01992 I figured as mine has no lathe marks and a low wall mentioned in part 3. Would you recommend a Lee Enfield or Kar98K for my next ww2 rifle
i have 2 mosins great guns but i must admit if i had to choose a rifle bolt rifle to go to war with i would choose a type 99 arisaka or a k98k the soviet weapons just don't have the quality as other rifles of the time had
@something01992 just got it and it looks great - i will be posting a video of it soon. quick question: what is your preferred stripper clip and where do you buy them? thanks!
@something01992 Yeah my local store sells cheap .303 but Ive always loved mausers, saw a kar98 when I got my 91/30 for 400 but figured id get the $150 mosin and save for a better Kar
I have a Mosin Nagant m38 that I have put 20 rounds or more of crossive 7.62x54r through how often should I expect to have sticky bolt and is sticky bolt normal with the Mosin Nagant m38 or any other Mosin Nagant variants
Check Iraqveteran8888's channel regarding sticky bolt. As long as you clean your rifle properly once you get home after shooting, you should have no issues. "Sticky bolt" is most often a function of a dirty, cosmoline filled chamber area or possibly a burr or other debris in the chamber.
@1971Chevelle502 A heat lamp or hair dryer, a lot of time, and a lot of elbow grease. That's how I did my M1 Garand. There are probably better ways out there. Sorry I can't help more :/
Thanks for this series of 3 videos. As a complete newbie I thought they were very informative and well-presented without any BS.
Excellent video, best explanation of a 91/30 action I've ever seen. Well done.
This is an extremely good video - clear, concise while being detailed. Well done!
although I've always seen the mosin as a pretty average fire arm, but after watching this, I can see it has some very good features.It could be said that this is the rifle that won the second world war since Germany broke its back against Russia...that alone should earn this rifle respect.
Great review! You cover everything most people want to know about the gun in an easy to follow yet interesting way. Makes me even more excited to get my Mosin later today! Nice action photos from various wars in the intros, too.
Thank you for the kind comments! I recommend a local gun shop where you can see the rifle before you buy it. You want to inspect it yourself and make sure for certain if it's the best you can get. That's what I did.
When first buying one it can be advisable in my experience to completely disassemble the bold so make sure there is no packing grease within its workings, I believe it is called cormaline or some such name. Mineral oil is safe for the bolt and excelent for cleaning the grease out of the workings. If you get a Mosin with "sticky bolt syndrome" you can almost be more or less certain that either the breach or part of the bolt has packing grease that has melted and then hardened inside it.
Great video nothing new to me, but still kept me quite interested good work. Also, LOLed at the spider annotation.
I have to second this comment. I just got two of the Mosin's yesterday and am looking forward to shooting them. Have some cleaning to do first and then down to the range. Thanks for the videos!
BEAUTIFUL SHOOTING RANGE! Wow!
Great videos - well history backup also added. To me you have extraordinary communication (which pass on your actions clearly and your video is well builded and compressed video message - you are well grounded speaker.
Thank you.
thx for the vid ive had my mosin for awhile but i haven't shot it at all, this makes me feel more confident in myself with my rifle, i love guns but i wasn't raised in a gun environment and ive only had my licence alittle longer than the gun so it's intimidating to be around them and handle them feels so good :)
Just a note on dissassembly of the bolt . They cut the fork on the guide bar so it fits onto the firing pin then twist and out pops the pin under spring pressure , there is as you will notice on the cocking piece a horizontal cut corresponding to the firing pin alignment this way when you put it back in you can't get the pin in the wrong depth works every time
Hmmm. I didn't know this about the guide bar. I'll have too try this because it's got me curious now.
Im just getting into guns. Thank you so much for making this video. Great tips and instructions.
You can actually just push the bolt back in the reciever without touching the trigger. If memory serves, the Carcano required the trigger to be depressed to put the bolt back. The M91/30, M44, Kar98k, and M1917 bolts can simply be pushed back in.
Thank you! I'm glad you found it useful and congratulations on getting a Mosin Nagant!
"The bullet is a mad thing only the bayonet knows what it is about" - Alexander Suvorov
You should've killed the spider with a bayonet for it knows how to kill it.
I'm getting my first MN tomorrow ( a Finnish one) and I'm excited. Will be referring to your videos often - they are excellent.
Nice video. I recently purchased a '43 Tula Nagant and have cleaned the cosmoline and such out of the rifle and am hoping to shoot it later this week.
This is one of the highest quality reviews on the Mosin Nagant 91/30 I have seen. Just a few things to note though. Single loading is safe, however it can cause problems with the extractor engaging the rim. Also mass production ended in 1945, however there are examples of 91/30's that were produced in 1946, 1947, and 1950 at the Izhevsk arsenal. What year and arsenal is your 91/30? Thanks for posting.
Amazing quality, I mean not just visual but the contents the most. I wish I could do like this.
when you dismantle the bolt you can completely dismantle the firingpin from the hammer bu using the split end of the guiding rail as a wrench, that`s the way they used to do that back in the day. you don\t need any wood, book or anything.
Mosin Nagants are $80-$130, Kar98k rifles can be anywhere from $250-$2000 depending on a number of factors. Your profile says you're from Ireland, so the prices there are different than here in the US. Thanks for watching and commenting!
My M- 9130 is a Hex receiver 1921 Tula in excellent condition. will put 5 rds in a 2 inch circle at 50yrds.
I have a 91/30 Tula 1943 mfg. that is also very accurate!! I agree b2flyer1!
Goodbye Slavyanka, loved the intro!
You have a mosin and you have a problem (spider). CRUSH FASCIST SPIDER COMRADE!
Give em the bayonet comrade, no need to waste ammo coming from the people's factories.
Pseudologic or club the Jerry to death
I’ve done this with my Mosin
Your videos are professional quality and very informative! I'm thinking about getting a Nagant, Well actually, I've wanted one for a while but am just now getting around to pulling the trigger (too terrible of a joke?)
Fantastic upload and would you recommend any specific places to buy a Mosin from? Thanks for the great video!
@lasseriks they cost usually from 79.99-139.99 depending on how lucky the deal or if the stamping is Tula or a hex receiver or both Tula+hex receiver. M44 variants are a different story.
Better idea: buy a Yugoslavian model 24/47 or 48. Both are very high quality Mauser rifles and BOTH are easily found UNFIRED for about 200-300 dollars. I considered a Mosin myself, then I realized that an extra 100 or so bucks could get me a real Mauser in mint condition. The m24/47s will be a used rifle that was taken out of storage after WWII, checked for function, and had any necessary parts replacements performed. The M48 was a new production rifle and was often stored without seeing service
Nope, I chose the best 91/30 in the store after handling each and every rifle. And thank you for the kind comments!
Wonderful substantive information. Did you take the entire trigger mechanism apart for initial cosmoline cleaning?
@something01992 That seems to be the most common year and arsenal here in the states even though 1942 production numbers were larger than 1943 at Izhevsk. Oh and by the way, when I said single loading I meant when you load a round without using the magazine, i.e. just placing it into the receiver, sometimes the bolt either won't close or is much more difficult to close. Happy shooting.
Fantastic video!
I just bought one myself, and I really enjoyed your video, however I do have one concern:
Those sure look like live rounds that you're cycling through the rifle to demonstrate the action...
@theTNoutdoorsman98 Depends entirely on your body. To me, they all feel the same. Recoil is the last thing I think of when I'm about to pull the trigger, exceptions to .500 S&W, .44 Magnum, etc.
@FoodFolksandGuns The ones I prefer are Polish, I got them from a local gun store while they had them in stock, you should be able to find them on line. Avoid the stainless steel ones, those are a PIA to use, at least in my case.
@FoodFolksandGuns Finnish Mosin Nagants have a reputation for excellence. The M39 rifles are supposedly the best. And I'm glad to hear that my videos are helpful, it means that I've done my job.
@theTNoutdoorsman98 Thanks, I'm taking a summer semester right now, but I'll be back to finish this series ins August. I have part 2 almost done, but I still need about 5-10 minutes of footage covering cleaning accessories.
I never said that it WAS a K98k I said it was very close. Clone IS going too far in everyday terms but for a reenactor it WOULD function more or less as a clone. And fussy with ammo? How long are the 8mm rounds that you are using :0? PS: I have an m24/47 and it's a honey. PSS: Great video series! I learned a few nuances about the guns!
hey man thanks for all of your vids you do it very well and always please us with your complete vids (i meant it answers all your questions)
but can you also compare these awesome weapons with each other ? like is Kar 98 better or mosin nagat?
thanks please answer me
I'd say mosin, if you don't mind a bit of work and fiddling, you can improve the trigger to be more responsive and quicker then the k98k, it is generally sturdier, easier to clean from my experience, and the ammo is generally less expensive.
Not to mention it costs about 10% of the k98k!
PS: The M48 is almost an exact clone of the K98k (the Yugoslavians had the tooling after the German occupation of their country) while the m24/47 is an earlier version of the Mauser 98. If you wanted to, you could blue the m48's bolt and make it look exactly like a K98k.
@1971Chevelle502 Not in particular. I think it might be pre-war as most that I see are blued steel.
@scarlebloke Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.
It's easier to remove the bolt than engage the safety.
@Charles' Milsurp Firearms what kind of rounds were you using in the video with the silver tip.
Its 148gr Ball Mild steel core I this ammo also :) Hope that helps :)
I've improved since making this video. Also, it's impossible to cycle the bolt without moving your heard, otherwise you gouge out your eyeball with the cocking piece of the bolt.
No that's not correct. The M48 and 24/47 have intermediate length actions derived from a Belgian 98 model, whereas the Kar98k has a full length one. The intermediate length action's a bit shorter and might be more fussy with ammo, because you have less room for error and you might get issues with rounds getting hung up on the feed ramp. The rear sights on a 98k start at 100 meters with the 24/47 and m48 start at 200. Additionally the handguard on the 24/47 and m48 extends behind the rear sight.
@Thatevilmidget Well, seeing as I've never shot a Finnish Mosin Nagant before, I'll have to take your word for it. But there's not doubt in my mind that the M39 is the best looking of all the Mosin Nagants out there. I especially like the semi-pistol grip on those honeys and the wood they use (tikka? Or something like that) is easy on the eyes.
I just bought that same kit today for around 175. ( I have a soft spot for world war modles -^_^-) I was wondering how durable the gun is and how easy is it to find replacement parts? Also how easy is it to find the ammunition for the firearm?
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG IN THE BEGINNING!!?? i cant live without it.
I use Sellier and Bellot 196 grain FMJ's. A perfect match for these guns!
Did you know you can also load from the floor plate as well.
Great video! Lots of good info!
how much do you shoot now a days where are you located it looked like a great place to shoot is it expensive
@1971Chevelle502 A Kar98k of course. 8mm ammo is easier to find, and I'm just a biased SOB that loves Mausers more than Enfields. Both are good choices though.
mine shoots slightly low too. i haven't tried it with the bayonet. apparently they all have different behaviors without the bayonet... some shoot high without it, some shoot low without it. but all seem to shoot to the right without it. at least i know where THAT behavior comes from.
There is a AWB in effect here. We are Class 3 friendly and we have no mag limits.
@cwbyfan223 Thanks for the additional info, I'll try and add them in via annotations. My Mosin Nagant is a 1943 Izhevsk.
If you don't have to pull the trigger to to get the bolt in then your trigger assembly is probably very worn. SLAMMING one in place might work but you run the risk of sheering metal off of part of the trigger catch and damaging an otherwise rugged, dependable, accurate, and inexpensive little gem. Treat your weapons with care if you wish for them to do the same to you.
@cwbyfan223 I got what you meant. I personally never single load at the range, I was just doing it for demonstration purposes on video. In a range video that I'll put up within the coming weeks, you'll see me instructing two new shooters to push the round into the magazine before chambering it.
9:55
There is a video you can watch here ua-cam.com/video/SPGUBnEHlTE/v-deo.html --and there is an old footage of what I believe to be a Soviet officer or possibly an NCO demonstrating reloading the Mosin with stripper clips. You'll find in that footage, he doesn't tilt the top round and lever it in. He actually hooks his thumb on top of the rounds and pushes them down like that.
I time stamped it at the 3:11 mark in the comments.
Local gun shops. I don't recommend buying online unless you're dealing with reputable people on the forums.
If I cock it can I rotate the cocking piece to take pressure of the firing pin? I believe the Russians liked to leave the bolt open to allow air throw the barrel to prevent corrosion. This is a super video by the way. I have seen lots of shooting and customising videos but none that cover the basics. I don't know anybody with one of these rifles, though we do have them here in the UK, and videos like this help plug the gaps.
I really do think this gun is an engineering marvel.
It is if you consider its an 1891 design that always works and any uneducated pessent can use it and maintain it.
love your videos man i have this model of Nagant and this helped me a lot thanks :)
@something01992 I figured as mine has no lathe marks and a low wall mentioned in part 3. Would you recommend a Lee Enfield or Kar98K for my next ww2 rifle
Good video... well done
@tigerm48 Don't deny it. I'm back at college for summer school, so by the end of the summer, you will most definitely be the best shot amongst us.
My M91/30 Izhevsk was stamped 1946.
i really wish you could... but no. if you can find a safe-to-shoot Bannerman 30-06 conversion, i bet you could.
i have 2 mosins great guns but i must admit if i had to choose a rifle bolt rifle to go to war with i would choose a type 99 arisaka or a k98k the soviet weapons just don't have the quality as other rifles of the time had
@something01992 just got it and it looks great - i will be posting a video of it soon. quick question: what is your preferred stripper clip and where do you buy them? thanks!
@something01992 Just got my first 91/30, its a 1931 Tula Hex cleaned most of the cosmoline off, but any good tips to clean it all?
@shuntachi Thank you! I wish I had a better camera, the lack of a focus is really driving me crazy.
simply perfect video
@something01992 btw how did you find all of this information out? sorry bout all the questions
i love watching these videos too know how to actually use one of these and here some history about it. Makes COD WAW more enjoyable :P
ravenwda007 ikr
@something01992 Thanks worked great. Do the brass pieces on my top hand guard mean anything?
I just bought a 1939 91/30 tula its pretty nice.
Think on the bright side. The spider is next to you, but you have a ww2 rifle.
A giant spider? Luckily you were armed huh!! Perfect chance for a firing demo.
do you anything about the Finnish Mosin-Nagant M/56 a experimental 7.62x39mm rifle?
@something01992 I figured. What would you recommend I get next a Kar98 or Lee Enfield
@something01992 Yeah my local store sells cheap .303 but Ive always loved mausers, saw a kar98 when I got my 91/30 for 400 but figured id get the $150 mosin and save for a better Kar
They're both great weapons, I like the Kar98k better. But the Mosin Nagant is cheaper to shoot.
the song in the begining is farewell to slavianka
I have a Mosin Nagant m38 that I have put 20 rounds or more of crossive 7.62x54r through how often should I expect to have sticky bolt and is sticky bolt normal with the Mosin Nagant m38 or any other Mosin Nagant variants
Check Iraqveteran8888's channel regarding sticky bolt. As long as you clean your rifle properly once you get home after shooting, you should have no issues. "Sticky bolt" is most often a function of a dirty, cosmoline filled chamber area or possibly a burr or other debris in the chamber.
Can you load the Nagant with a 5+1 load? Been wondering that for a while.
@MegaChief111 I'd take it to a gun smith. This is probably beyond my expertise.
@cwbyfan223 Your right, this is the most pro. gun review I have ever seen. And I've seen many gun reviews :)
@1971Chevelle502 Internet, and books. Some people helped me in my research.
No problem, and thanks!
placing your thumb against the back of the bolt may result in a broken thumb. im not trying to be an ass im just noting
Whats the name of the song in the beginning
u do know u can use the tool to put the safety on and off... instead of using your hand and running a risk of injury.
you dont have to pull the trigger to get the bolt in the mosin just push it in
thanks man your the best
@1971Chevelle502 A heat lamp or hair dryer, a lot of time, and a lot of elbow grease. That's how I did my M1 Garand. There are probably better ways out there. Sorry I can't help more :/
00:33 there is a SVT-40 Scoped sniper rifle
conpro21 I saw it
Can't find part 2 of 3 !
Open your eyes!!! lol... It's not hard to find