@@alcedob.5850 Exactly and with good positioning and ammo management it won't even be much of a problem with how fast you can add individual rounds to the magazine. Plus, you can always switch to your secondary, so long as it isn't empty.
Between you and rachtaz you guys have amazing game sense, aim, etc etc. what really impresses me the most is your guys’ insane eyesight. I feel that super power alone is so vital to hunt
It’s gonna sound stupid but part of me wonders if he has blue eyes. People with blue eyes perceive changes in light (something along those lines) faster than others. Good example of this is Professional Hockey Goalies. I myself have blue eyes and also have been told my whole life “how did you see that/ you reacted so quickly”
If you’re wondering why that would be the case it’s due to people with blue eyes not actually having any color in their eyes. Our eye colors are just the color our eyes don’t absorb. Blue eyed people have clear eyes, but the only light not absorbed is blue, which is why blue eyes can vary in color or intensity based on outside light source.
what i did to be able to spot hunter better at a distance was to use image sharpening and set it to 80 or 100%, i find it to be usefull to easilly spot moving hunters at a distance, i use AMD but i dont know if Nvidia has a similar setting
Like someone said, it could be the bitrate. Yt videos are compressed from the edited video from the original footage. Theyre also playing at 4k and likelt on larger monitors
Crytek shouldnt buff guns based on how many ppl use it, the cyclone is a good weapon but i feel ppl dont use it because it's boring. If they keep buffing this gun its gunna get to the point ppl will use it cuz it's op and not necessarily cuz they want to
Same reason for Mosin and Uppercut.. besides the fact those guns are strong, they are also popular... For me now Krags are better than Mosins, but people love Mosins in every single game no matter what.
My feeling about this gun is still that its way too expensive for what it is. at longer range you still need to re-aim after every shot so (for me and my mid-tier skills) the actual rate of fire isnt that great+(velocity is crap) and at shorter range the magazine is empty way faster than it should be. Basically i will always do better with a Winnie+levering.
Crack shot works well with cyclone. You can push more confidently. I'll be using it more regularly for the duration of the event. However yeah, without that it's still nothing to write home about. The complainers do what they do - complain.
@sourxpill I don't like Mosin haha, and its way more expensive than Martini Ironside, and then it requires bullet grabber and ironeye traits to fully work.
Finally some1 admires martin ironside as well ....for it's cost,use and damage and requiring no traits to use it makes it a must use gun for me for every new hunter
This gun alone carried me from 2 stars into 5 stars. Best two tap weapon in the game. Quick cycle rate means quicker calibration after your first shot. That sound and overall design of the weapon is just one of a kind. Special
Why two tap when you can just get 3 headshots without having to pull a bolt? Thisbweapon saved me since im a tarkov player so rate of fire is very nice and headshots are already coded into my dna
My experience with seeing it was oh no the balance will be terrible but after using it a few times. I can say with confidence just give me a sparks or bolt actions. It’s not great. I’d say it’s pretty balanced .
The cyclone is 280$ for 24 medium bullets of 124 damage at 410m/s with 4 rounds in a mag, and if you use high velo it's 340$ for 16 bullets of 116 damage at 510 m/s. The Krag is 345$ for 18 shots of 126 damage long bullets travelling at 610m/s in a 6 round magazine that reloads fast and doesn't need bulletgrubber. Why would you choose a gun with less ammo, less pen, less damage over range, less muzzle velocity, and less magazine size for just a 0.8 s faster cycle rate? Krag is just superior in everything except cycle rate and cost, and for cost it's literally just 5$ more while being so much better.
Valid points, but you cant just pass up the 0.8s cycle rate. Almost every scenario you can two tap a person while the krag cant. But lets be honest, its not that the cyclone is underpowered. The Krag is way overturned right now, esp with the silencer update.
@@lnsertCreativeNameHere Sure, when you peek and take a fight the cyclone will be able to two tap in situations the krag can't. The tradeoff is with 2 extra long ammo you'll be able to fish for wallbangs and continue holding angles after shooting multiple times, whereas with the cyclone after 2 or 3 shots you either need to reload or take a fight with only 1 or 2 bullets. Also, when you fight outside at ranges longer than 40m damage fall-of becomes a thing. Also also, if you down someone and they get revive bolted or necro'd you can just execute them with a bodyshot from the krag. Sure you can two tap the guy on revive with a cyclone, but that's also 2 less bullets for a peek or a push from the rest of the guys team AND your reload is worse, and if you miss the second shot you're cooked. The crisp two taps you get from the cyclone just aren't worth all the times the gun just doesn't perform compared to the krag, but to be fair the krag is probably the best rifle right now in terms of value proposition.
Both play different roles. I use this weapon at medium and even closer ranges. Krag couldnt handle a cyclone in its face. Its role is exactly that as a drilling.
The only buff that could make me truly love this gun is change it's sights, but I know that won't happen (and I don't really want it to change, I just don't like the sights). That said, it's still one of my favorite guns.
Im glad the cyclone and the other semi-autos arent that popular. Ive always liked hunts emphasis on careful, methodical gunfighting. Making semi autos too strong would really detract from that.
I love the cyclone, especially paired with katana. I get that other choices like krag are simply better, but that doesnt change the fact that cyclone is strong
It feels so good now. It's not as strong as the "old" cyclone with HV before the nerf, but I really don't see a reason why you should ever pick the Officer Carbine now. Edit: I still want to see the iron sights reworked though. That would be the best buff in my opinion.
Personally I like the Cyclone, I guess I don’t use it much because in and around the price point there are more fun options. Saying that, I’ve had some great wins with the Cyclone in compounds, it’s good in 30m and under engagements, generally a double tap. Might give it a go a little more often.
its not that the cyclone is bad. there are just better options. Especially if you want a fast firing weapon there is the officer carbine which is just a total headclicker.
The officer carbine is a much worse gun now that it HV was heavily nerfed on it. It has like half the 2 tap range of the cyclone , shoots slower and has more recoil now. I never see it since the HV nerf. Cyclone base MV is almost as fast as the officer with HV.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 I get it but 2 tap range is very important because you're not going to have 100% headshot accuracy. Might as well use the born HV if you're just fishing for headshots. Less recoil and similar MV, faster RoF.
Horny, two questions: 1) Silksong when 2) Are you using screen dot? I mean like overlay crosshair. I play fps shooters for all my life but i have really hard time feeling that center of the screen for some reason and don't know what to do with it. I wanna learn to feel the center naturally but it kinda too late since i wasnt able to in my younger years
It's still on par with crow for buck shot but it definitely gets hit hard by the point nerf not in strength but attractiveness to actually play. Also have seen lots of specter because of the big buff it got
idk, i love the idea of cyclone, i thought that it would be mt main weapon, but now i just can't land my shots with it. I can land the same shots with sparks or other weapon, but just can't with cyclone. Even on the distance you don't need to lead. for example 30-40 meters. Don''t know why
people arguing over guns in hunt as of their real lives depend on them. It's game, it's supposed to be fun, and what is more fun than busting duos and trios with a semi-auto rifle?
Faster cycle? I used to use the normal pax a lot and when they released trueshot, the slightly slower cycle felt off to me. Pax is a great gun regardless
I just can't stand the iron sights. Only time I bring it is to spam fmj through the compound, kind of a meme build. I don't want it to be meta though, so they should keep it where its at.
Hopefully Crytek finds the audience they're looking for because the old one obviously wasn't good enough? I still think the game is great but what it's becoming is not what I fell in love with as a gamer.
I doubt that there's any buff that will get people to use it. It just doesn't feel right in the game. That's why I think no one uses it. It doesn't fit the yeehaw vibe.
that extra long reload when you empty the mag in addition to only having 4 in the magazine will always be brutal
makes you pick your shots instead of just spamming left click and praying to the rng gods
@@alcedob.5850 Exactly and with good positioning and ammo management it won't even be much of a problem with how fast you can add individual rounds to the magazine. Plus, you can always switch to your secondary, so long as it isn't empty.
@@alcedob.5850 yeah, it's really solid, it just is rough for someone like me who plays a lot of lemat carbine and marathon
I love the cyclone as an effective rifle at all ranges. It's is great at close range double taps
Just pretend its a bertie and spam fire to your hearts content (requires drilling shorty as ammo pig)
Between you and rachtaz you guys have amazing game sense, aim, etc etc. what really impresses me the most is your guys’ insane eyesight. I feel that super power alone is so vital to hunt
It’s gonna sound stupid but part of me wonders if he has blue eyes. People with blue eyes perceive changes in light (something along those lines) faster than others. Good example of this is Professional Hockey Goalies. I myself have blue eyes and also have been told my whole life “how did you see that/ you reacted so quickly”
If you’re wondering why that would be the case it’s due to people with blue eyes not actually having any color in their eyes. Our eye colors are just the color our eyes don’t absorb. Blue eyed people have clear eyes, but the only light not absorbed is blue, which is why blue eyes can vary in color or intensity based on outside light source.
Keep in mind the video's bit rate is very low. So if you have only watched him via stream/YT it almost is impossible to see these people anyways.
what i did to be able to spot hunter better at a distance was to use image sharpening and set it to 80 or 100%, i find it to be usefull to easilly spot moving hunters at a distance, i use AMD but i dont know if Nvidia has a similar setting
Like someone said, it could be the bitrate. Yt videos are compressed from the edited video from the original footage. Theyre also playing at 4k and likelt on larger monitors
Crytek shouldnt buff guns based on how many ppl use it, the cyclone is a good weapon but i feel ppl dont use it because it's boring. If they keep buffing this gun its gunna get to the point ppl will use it cuz it's op and not necessarily cuz they want to
Hmm the gun def gets gapped by the drilling which do similar jobs
Same reason for Mosin and Uppercut.. besides the fact those guns are strong, they are also popular...
For me now Krags are better than Mosins, but people love Mosins in every single game no matter what.
I’m pretty sure 90% of players in his 6stars lobby choose guns based on op or not,not fun
its not true i'm 6 and playing only fun weapons like dragonbreath shotguns or hand crossbow on fire belts and infantry :D
cyclone, a semi auto, not fun? It is the most fun weapon I've played with
My feeling about this gun is still that its way too expensive for what it is. at longer range you still need to re-aim after every shot so (for me and my mid-tier skills) the actual rate of fire isnt that great+(velocity is crap) and at shorter range the magazine is empty way faster than it should be. Basically i will always do better with a Winnie+levering.
Ya its honestly better to run the normal version with iron eye. I still use it for fun though.
It's $280... it's so fucking cheap for what it is, thing is a headclicker
Crack shot works well with cyclone. You can push more confidently. I'll be using it more regularly for the duration of the event. However yeah, without that it's still nothing to write home about. The complainers do what they do - complain.
Agreed. The poor hip fire accuracy with it hurts more often than you'd think, but crack shot makes it pretty reliable
I really like what you can do in solo with that gun since it offers you quite the firepower as long as you have ammo in the mag
Martini Ironside is an insane gun, specially with fire ammo, I just love it.
If you think that gun is insane, you'll think a mosin is godlike.
@sourxpill I don't like Mosin haha, and its way more expensive than Martini Ironside, and then it requires bullet grabber and ironeye traits to fully work.
17:01 this you then?
Krag is better then both
Finally some1 admires martin ironside as well ....for it's cost,use and damage and requiring no traits to use it makes it a must use gun for me for every new hunter
Don't think we didn't notice that profile pic in the lobby lmao
the silence after getting shredder'd
at 8:15 how did you loot 3 seconds of dark sight? cant be corpse seer cuz you have blademancer
packmule
I like it but I cant be bothered to grind through 5 vetterli variants every prestige.
Same...
This lol. Especially not while the drilling is auto unlocked each prestige
just find gun oil or blueprints, also bash ai and last hit bosses, its not that hard actually
@@GuardianMehmedjust because it's easy to do doesn't mean that it's annoying when other options require less
@@GuardianMehmed You can grind all of that or just pay 5$ more for a krag
Have you tried it with subsonic ammo? It's very quiet.
The Muzzle Velocity in question : 💀
@@GlitchBoy-ws5in I get consistent hits
@@johnski4709 266 if only they learn to hold W and ZigZag
This gun alone carried me from 2 stars into 5 stars. Best two tap weapon in the game. Quick cycle rate means quicker calibration after your first shot. That sound and overall design of the weapon is just one of a kind. Special
Why two tap when you can just get 3 headshots without having to pull a bolt? Thisbweapon saved me since im a tarkov player so rate of fire is very nice and headshots are already coded into my dna
Dang, you got revive bolt'd that first match. I'm so sorry that happened to you bro
My experience with seeing it was oh no the balance will be terrible but after using it a few times. I can say with confidence just give me a sparks or bolt actions. It’s not great. I’d say it’s pretty balanced .
Reddits are long ammo crybaby anyway
@ Idk what this means? I’m not a particular fan of long ammo.
I gave it a go yesterday after you talked about it and it's pretty damn good it's just the sight holding it back
The cyclone is 280$ for 24 medium bullets of 124 damage at 410m/s with 4 rounds in a mag, and if you use high velo it's 340$ for 16 bullets of 116 damage at 510 m/s. The Krag is 345$ for 18 shots of 126 damage long bullets travelling at 610m/s in a 6 round magazine that reloads fast and doesn't need bulletgrubber. Why would you choose a gun with less ammo, less pen, less damage over range, less muzzle velocity, and less magazine size for just a 0.8 s faster cycle rate? Krag is just superior in everything except cycle rate and cost, and for cost it's literally just 5$ more while being so much better.
Valid points, but you cant just pass up the 0.8s cycle rate. Almost every scenario you can two tap a person while the krag cant. But lets be honest, its not that the cyclone is underpowered. The Krag is way overturned right now, esp with the silencer update.
and you didn't even mention the superior iron sight of Krag
@@lnsertCreativeNameHere Sure, when you peek and take a fight the cyclone will be able to two tap in situations the krag can't. The tradeoff is with 2 extra long ammo you'll be able to fish for wallbangs and continue holding angles after shooting multiple times, whereas with the cyclone after 2 or 3 shots you either need to reload or take a fight with only 1 or 2 bullets. Also, when you fight outside at ranges longer than 40m damage fall-of becomes a thing. Also also, if you down someone and they get revive bolted or necro'd you can just execute them with a bodyshot from the krag. Sure you can two tap the guy on revive with a cyclone, but that's also 2 less bullets for a peek or a push from the rest of the guys team AND your reload is worse, and if you miss the second shot you're cooked. The crisp two taps you get from the cyclone just aren't worth all the times the gun just doesn't perform compared to the krag, but to be fair the krag is probably the best rifle right now in terms of value proposition.
Cyclone doesn't need any traits to be fast as fuck.
Both play different roles. I use this weapon at medium and even closer ranges. Krag couldnt handle a cyclone in its face. Its role is exactly that as a drilling.
The only buff that could make me truly love this gun is change it's sights, but I know that won't happen (and I don't really want it to change, I just don't like the sights).
That said, it's still one of my favorite guns.
One of my top 3 favourite weapons before this update, so this is even better 😎
Im glad the cyclone and the other semi-autos arent that popular. Ive always liked hunts emphasis on careful, methodical gunfighting. Making semi autos too strong would really detract from that.
I love the cyclone, especially paired with katana. I get that other choices like krag are simply better, but that doesnt change the fact that cyclone is strong
It feels so good now. It's not as strong as the "old" cyclone with HV before the nerf, but I really don't see a reason why you should ever pick the Officer Carbine now. Edit: I still want to see the iron sights reworked though. That would be the best buff in my opinion.
Personally I like the Cyclone, I guess I don’t use it much because in and around the price point there are more fun options. Saying that, I’ve had some great wins with the Cyclone in compounds, it’s good in 30m and under engagements, generally a double tap. Might give it a go a little more often.
whats your pc specs? where can i find it?
Probly a pc store
its not that the cyclone is bad. there are just better options.
Especially if you want a fast firing weapon there is the officer carbine which is just a total headclicker.
The officer carbine is a much worse gun now that it HV was heavily nerfed on it. It has like half the 2 tap range of the cyclone , shoots slower and has more recoil now. I never see it since the HV nerf. Cyclone base MV is almost as fast as the officer with HV.
@@ramsaybolton9151 Its fine. and as i said, headclicker. dont go for bodyshots.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 I get it but 2 tap range is very important because you're not going to have 100% headshot accuracy. Might as well use the born HV if you're just fishing for headshots. Less recoil and similar MV, faster RoF.
@@ramsaybolton9151 bring a scottfield then.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 Slow velocity, slow firing speed lol, who uses that gun?
great vid man
Me and the gang are Cyclone enjoyers
Horny, two questions:
1) Silksong when
2) Are you using screen dot? I mean like overlay crosshair. I play fps shooters for all my life but i have really hard time feeling that center of the screen for some reason and don't know what to do with it. I wanna learn to feel the center naturally but it kinda too late since i wasnt able to in my younger years
my man horny
Everyone is trying to imitate RachtaZ accent.
Im curious about Terminus honestly. After levering traint point change, it's in the mud. I expect it to be crazy OP 2 more patches down the line LOL
It's still on par with crow for buck shot but it definitely gets hit hard by the point nerf not in strength but attractiveness to actually play. Also have seen lots of specter because of the big buff it got
idk, i love the idea of cyclone, i thought that it would be mt main weapon, but now i just can't land my shots with it. I can land the same shots with sparks or other weapon, but just can't with cyclone. Even on the distance you don't need to lead. for example 30-40 meters. Don''t know why
I used with the new fast firing bow and got 6 kills. I think the gun is balanced. I’m hoping for a new hammer skin bonking hunters and bosses is fun.
Im prestigeing and frankly theirs very little reason for me to play vetterli to unlokc the cyclone
Is there someone talking in the background the whole time? Feels like im going insane lol
I think as long as they don't give the cyclone a proper ironsight this gun with stay mid
They need to increase mag size by 1
Dude the thing just has the weirdest hit registration I swear
It should have 5 ammo magazine or become 2 slots weapon. Changin recoil dont make it 30-40% stronger
people arguing over guns in hunt as of their real lives depend on them. It's game, it's supposed to be fun, and what is more fun than busting duos and trios with a semi-auto rifle?
Anyone knows why Hornet always uses regular Pax instead of Trueshot?
Faster cycle? I used to use the normal pax a lot and when they released trueshot, the slightly slower cycle felt off to me. Pax is a great gun regardless
This gun is so sleeper. It's perfect anbd they keep making it perfecter
I just can't stand the iron sights. Only time I bring it is to spam fmj through the compound, kind of a meme build. I don't want it to be meta though, so they should keep it where its at.
those revive darts are the worst thing they could've added into the game, the first game just highlights how skill-less they are
The constant jump wiggles are ridiculous. I get it's how to avoid being hit, but it just looks silly.
They should buff it again and nerv the uppercut again xP xD
Feel like they just need to drop the price too expensive for a gun with only 4 shots of medium.
if the crosshair is bad the "gun" can be as good as it want it doesent really matter.
Ban or nerf every semi-auto gun in this game is perfect.
Not sure about buffing the cyclone but they will nerf uppercut 100%
Best gun in the game, feel like I am playing BF1.
Hopefully Crytek finds the audience they're looking for because the old one obviously wasn't good enough? I still think the game is great but what it's becoming is not what I fell in love with as a gamer.
But if you use high velocity ammo or fmj you don’t get the buff. The problem of cyclone is the reload time and low velocity.😢
I doubt that there's any buff that will get people to use it. It just doesn't feel right in the game. That's why I think no one uses it. It doesn't fit the yeehaw vibe.
I never see uppercuts in my games but it got nerfed
funny because i see it on almost every hutner in 6 star but hey
@@hornetlul im 6 or 5 only. NA. hardly ever see uppercuts, i know cause i collect them! lol not sure why now, old habits
Can we Nerf the avtomat though 🎉👀
pain
also as a buff make this two slot
hornet kiss
its hunger or hunt
i suck with this gun lol
first
Gey