@@alcedob.5850 Exactly and with good positioning and ammo management it won't even be much of a problem with how fast you can add individual rounds to the magazine. Plus, you can always switch to your secondary, so long as it isn't empty.
Between you and rachtaz you guys have amazing game sense, aim, etc etc. what really impresses me the most is your guys’ insane eyesight. I feel that super power alone is so vital to hunt
It’s gonna sound stupid but part of me wonders if he has blue eyes. People with blue eyes perceive changes in light (something along those lines) faster than others. Good example of this is Professional Hockey Goalies. I myself have blue eyes and also have been told my whole life “how did you see that/ you reacted so quickly”
If you’re wondering why that would be the case it’s due to people with blue eyes not actually having any color in their eyes. Our eye colors are just the color our eyes don’t absorb. Blue eyed people have clear eyes, but the only light not absorbed is blue, which is why blue eyes can vary in color or intensity based on outside light source.
what i did to be able to spot hunter better at a distance was to use image sharpening and set it to 80 or 100%, i find it to be usefull to easilly spot moving hunters at a distance, i use AMD but i dont know if Nvidia has a similar setting
Like someone said, it could be the bitrate. Yt videos are compressed from the edited video from the original footage. Theyre also playing at 4k and likelt on larger monitors
Crytek shouldnt buff guns based on how many ppl use it, the cyclone is a good weapon but i feel ppl dont use it because it's boring. If they keep buffing this gun its gunna get to the point ppl will use it cuz it's op and not necessarily cuz they want to
Same reason for Mosin and Uppercut.. besides the fact those guns are strong, they are also popular... For me now Krags are better than Mosins, but people love Mosins in every single game no matter what.
In five star lobbies it seems to be a fair bit more common now, which is nice. I dunno how others feel about it, especially higher tier players, but it feels like it's in a really good spot and I can't imagine it getting any further buffs beyond like MAYBE one more round in the mag.
Crack shot works well with cyclone. You can push more confidently. I'll be using it more regularly for the duration of the event. However yeah, without that it's still nothing to write home about. The complainers do what they do - complain.
@sourxpill I don't like Mosin haha, and its way more expensive than Martini Ironside, and then it requires bullet grabber and ironeye traits to fully work.
Finally some1 admires martin ironside as well ....for it's cost,use and damage and requiring no traits to use it makes it a must use gun for me for every new hunter
My experience with seeing it was oh no the balance will be terrible but after using it a few times. I can say with confidence just give me a sparks or bolt actions. It’s not great. I’d say it’s pretty balanced .
My feeling about this gun is still that its way too expensive for what it is. at longer range you still need to re-aim after every shot so (for me and my mid-tier skills) the actual rate of fire isnt that great+(velocity is crap) and at shorter range the magazine is empty way faster than it should be. Basically i will always do better with a Winnie+levering.
This gun alone carried me from 2 stars into 5 stars. Best two tap weapon in the game. Quick cycle rate means quicker calibration after your first shot. That sound and overall design of the weapon is just one of a kind. Special
Why two tap when you can just get 3 headshots without having to pull a bolt? Thisbweapon saved me since im a tarkov player so rate of fire is very nice and headshots are already coded into my dna
This gun doesn't need to be buffed. It is fine and good. I don't use it because its a variant unlock, I am always prestiging, and I never use the veterli. I suspect this is why other people dont use it as well. What they really need to do is get rid of prestige, make it so there are 100x100 levels instead, and get rid of unlock resets. Wipe everyones hunter roster and bank roll once every every year.
Personally I like the Cyclone, I guess I don’t use it much because in and around the price point there are more fun options. Saying that, I’ve had some great wins with the Cyclone in compounds, it’s good in 30m and under engagements, generally a double tap. Might give it a go a little more often.
It feels so good now. It's not as strong as the "old" cyclone with HV before the nerf, but I really don't see a reason why you should ever pick the Officer Carbine now. Edit: I still want to see the iron sights reworked though. That would be the best buff in my opinion.
Horny, two questions: 1) Silksong when 2) Are you using screen dot? I mean like overlay crosshair. I play fps shooters for all my life but i have really hard time feeling that center of the screen for some reason and don't know what to do with it. I wanna learn to feel the center naturally but it kinda too late since i wasnt able to in my younger years
The only buff that could make me truly love this gun is change it's sights, but I know that won't happen (and I don't really want it to change, I just don't like the sights). That said, it's still one of my favorite guns.
I love the cyclone, especially paired with katana. I get that other choices like krag are simply better, but that doesnt change the fact that cyclone is strong
It's still on par with crow for buck shot but it definitely gets hit hard by the point nerf not in strength but attractiveness to actually play. Also have seen lots of specter because of the big buff it got
Im glad the cyclone and the other semi-autos arent that popular. Ive always liked hunts emphasis on careful, methodical gunfighting. Making semi autos too strong would really detract from that.
its not that the cyclone is bad. there are just better options. Especially if you want a fast firing weapon there is the officer carbine which is just a total headclicker.
The officer carbine is a much worse gun now that it HV was heavily nerfed on it. It has like half the 2 tap range of the cyclone , shoots slower and has more recoil now. I never see it since the HV nerf. Cyclone base MV is almost as fast as the officer with HV.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 I get it but 2 tap range is very important because you're not going to have 100% headshot accuracy. Might as well use the born HV if you're just fishing for headshots. Less recoil and similar MV, faster RoF.
idk, i love the idea of cyclone, i thought that it would be mt main weapon, but now i just can't land my shots with it. I can land the same shots with sparks or other weapon, but just can't with cyclone. Even on the distance you don't need to lead. for example 30-40 meters. Don''t know why
It's not just the Cyclone that needs the buff, it's all the Vetterlis, no one plays that gun and its variants because of its awful muzzle velocity (unless you play HV, which reduces its already puny damage). Right now there is no reason to chose the Vetterli over the Nagant Carbine.
I just can't stand the iron sights. Only time I bring it is to spam fmj through the compound, kind of a meme build. I don't want it to be meta though, so they should keep it where its at.
Faster cycle? I used to use the normal pax a lot and when they released trueshot, the slightly slower cycle felt off to me. Pax is a great gun regardless
people arguing over guns in hunt as of their real lives depend on them. It's game, it's supposed to be fun, and what is more fun than busting duos and trios with a semi-auto rifle?
Hopefully Crytek finds the audience they're looking for because the old one obviously wasn't good enough? I still think the game is great but what it's becoming is not what I fell in love with as a gamer.
I doubt that there's any buff that will get people to use it. It just doesn't feel right in the game. That's why I think no one uses it. It doesn't fit the yeehaw vibe.
The cyclone is 280$ for 24 medium bullets of 124 damage at 410m/s with 4 rounds in a mag, and if you use high velo it's 340$ for 16 bullets of 116 damage at 510 m/s. The Krag is 345$ for 18 shots of 126 damage long bullets travelling at 610m/s in a 6 round magazine that reloads fast and doesn't need bulletgrubber. Why would you choose a gun with less ammo, less pen, less damage over range, less muzzle velocity, and less magazine size for just a 0.8 s faster cycle rate? Krag is just superior in everything except cycle rate and cost, and for cost it's literally just 5$ more while being so much better.
Valid points, but you cant just pass up the 0.8s cycle rate. Almost every scenario you can two tap a person while the krag cant. But lets be honest, its not that the cyclone is underpowered. The Krag is way overturned right now, esp with the silencer update.
@@lnsertCreativeNameHere Sure, when you peek and take a fight the cyclone will be able to two tap in situations the krag can't. The tradeoff is with 2 extra long ammo you'll be able to fish for wallbangs and continue holding angles after shooting multiple times, whereas with the cyclone after 2 or 3 shots you either need to reload or take a fight with only 1 or 2 bullets. Also, when you fight outside at ranges longer than 40m damage fall-of becomes a thing. Also also, if you down someone and they get revive bolted or necro'd you can just execute them with a bodyshot from the krag. Sure you can two tap the guy on revive with a cyclone, but that's also 2 less bullets for a peek or a push from the rest of the guys team AND your reload is worse, and if you miss the second shot you're cooked. The crisp two taps you get from the cyclone just aren't worth all the times the gun just doesn't perform compared to the krag, but to be fair the krag is probably the best rifle right now in terms of value proposition.
Both play different roles. I use this weapon at medium and even closer ranges. Krag couldnt handle a cyclone in its face. Its role is exactly that as a drilling.
Great play.. but god its brutal watching you PC guys with your little adadada wiggle, it ruins every game I’ll never understand why anyone wants to play on a keyboard and suffer that and the instant head kick aim of a mouse when a controller makes it all totally even and more immersive Yes it’s worse.. that makes it way better
that extra long reload when you empty the mag in addition to only having 4 in the magazine will always be brutal
makes you pick your shots instead of just spamming left click and praying to the rng gods
@@alcedob.5850 Exactly and with good positioning and ammo management it won't even be much of a problem with how fast you can add individual rounds to the magazine. Plus, you can always switch to your secondary, so long as it isn't empty.
@@alcedob.5850 yeah, it's really solid, it just is rough for someone like me who plays a lot of lemat carbine and marathon
I love the cyclone as an effective rifle at all ranges. It's is great at close range double taps
Just pretend its a bertie and spam fire to your hearts content (requires drilling shorty as ammo pig)
Between you and rachtaz you guys have amazing game sense, aim, etc etc. what really impresses me the most is your guys’ insane eyesight. I feel that super power alone is so vital to hunt
It’s gonna sound stupid but part of me wonders if he has blue eyes. People with blue eyes perceive changes in light (something along those lines) faster than others. Good example of this is Professional Hockey Goalies. I myself have blue eyes and also have been told my whole life “how did you see that/ you reacted so quickly”
If you’re wondering why that would be the case it’s due to people with blue eyes not actually having any color in their eyes. Our eye colors are just the color our eyes don’t absorb. Blue eyed people have clear eyes, but the only light not absorbed is blue, which is why blue eyes can vary in color or intensity based on outside light source.
Keep in mind the video's bit rate is very low. So if you have only watched him via stream/YT it almost is impossible to see these people anyways.
what i did to be able to spot hunter better at a distance was to use image sharpening and set it to 80 or 100%, i find it to be usefull to easilly spot moving hunters at a distance, i use AMD but i dont know if Nvidia has a similar setting
Like someone said, it could be the bitrate. Yt videos are compressed from the edited video from the original footage. Theyre also playing at 4k and likelt on larger monitors
Crytek shouldnt buff guns based on how many ppl use it, the cyclone is a good weapon but i feel ppl dont use it because it's boring. If they keep buffing this gun its gunna get to the point ppl will use it cuz it's op and not necessarily cuz they want to
Hmm the gun def gets gapped by the drilling which do similar jobs
Same reason for Mosin and Uppercut.. besides the fact those guns are strong, they are also popular...
For me now Krags are better than Mosins, but people love Mosins in every single game no matter what.
I’m pretty sure 90% of players in his 6stars lobby choose guns based on op or not,not fun
its not true i'm 6 and playing only fun weapons like dragonbreath shotguns or hand crossbow on fire belts and infantry :D
cyclone, a semi auto, not fun? It is the most fun weapon I've played with
the silence after getting shredder'd
Don't think we didn't notice that profile pic in the lobby lmao
I really like what you can do in solo with that gun since it offers you quite the firepower as long as you have ammo in the mag
In five star lobbies it seems to be a fair bit more common now, which is nice. I dunno how others feel about it, especially higher tier players, but it feels like it's in a really good spot and I can't imagine it getting any further buffs beyond like MAYBE one more round in the mag.
Instead of buffing everything that is not used enough, why not nerf mosin and dolch?
Crack shot works well with cyclone. You can push more confidently. I'll be using it more regularly for the duration of the event. However yeah, without that it's still nothing to write home about. The complainers do what they do - complain.
Agreed. The poor hip fire accuracy with it hurts more often than you'd think, but crack shot makes it pretty reliable
Martini Ironside is an insane gun, specially with fire ammo, I just love it.
If you think that gun is insane, you'll think a mosin is godlike.
@sourxpill I don't like Mosin haha, and its way more expensive than Martini Ironside, and then it requires bullet grabber and ironeye traits to fully work.
17:01 this you then?
Krag is better then both
Finally some1 admires martin ironside as well ....for it's cost,use and damage and requiring no traits to use it makes it a must use gun for me for every new hunter
One of my top 3 favourite weapons before this update, so this is even better 😎
I gave it a go yesterday after you talked about it and it's pretty damn good it's just the sight holding it back
My experience with seeing it was oh no the balance will be terrible but after using it a few times. I can say with confidence just give me a sparks or bolt actions. It’s not great. I’d say it’s pretty balanced .
Reddits are long ammo crybaby anyway
@ Idk what this means? I’m not a particular fan of long ammo.
Dang, you got revive bolt'd that first match. I'm so sorry that happened to you bro
Can you make a video on your settings? Haven't played in a year, and the settings all changed. I would like to know whats best for pvp.
What do you think about the cyclone's sights? For me it feels a little obstructive and hard to see but I was curious to know if it bothers you
I like it but I cant be bothered to grind through 5 vetterli variants every prestige.
Same...
This lol. Especially not while the drilling is auto unlocked each prestige
just find gun oil or blueprints, also bash ai and last hit bosses, its not that hard actually
@@GuardianMehmedjust because it's easy to do doesn't mean that it's annoying when other options require less
@@GuardianMehmed You can grind all of that or just pay 5$ more for a krag
My feeling about this gun is still that its way too expensive for what it is. at longer range you still need to re-aim after every shot so (for me and my mid-tier skills) the actual rate of fire isnt that great+(velocity is crap) and at shorter range the magazine is empty way faster than it should be. Basically i will always do better with a Winnie+levering.
Ya its honestly better to run the normal version with iron eye. I still use it for fun though.
It's $280... it's so fucking cheap for what it is, thing is a headclicker
Balance, you know
at 8:15 how did you loot 3 seconds of dark sight? cant be corpse seer cuz you have blademancer
packmule
This gun alone carried me from 2 stars into 5 stars. Best two tap weapon in the game. Quick cycle rate means quicker calibration after your first shot. That sound and overall design of the weapon is just one of a kind. Special
Why two tap when you can just get 3 headshots without having to pull a bolt? Thisbweapon saved me since im a tarkov player so rate of fire is very nice and headshots are already coded into my dna
Problem is the time it takes vertical recoil to 'reset' is very poor, so the effective rate of fire is lower than cycle time implies
Have you tried it with subsonic ammo? It's very quiet.
The Muzzle Velocity in question : 💀
@@GlitchBoy-ws5in I get consistent hits
@@johnski4709 266 if only they learn to hold W and ZigZag
I though reviving bolts were only for bounty clash, im scared now
This gun doesn't need to be buffed. It is fine and good. I don't use it because its a variant unlock, I am always prestiging, and I never use the veterli. I suspect this is why other people dont use it as well.
What they really need to do is get rid of prestige, make it so there are 100x100 levels instead, and get rid of unlock resets. Wipe everyones hunter roster and bank roll once every every year.
Personally I like the Cyclone, I guess I don’t use it much because in and around the price point there are more fun options. Saying that, I’ve had some great wins with the Cyclone in compounds, it’s good in 30m and under engagements, generally a double tap. Might give it a go a little more often.
I used with the new fast firing bow and got 6 kills. I think the gun is balanced. I’m hoping for a new hammer skin bonking hunters and bosses is fun.
It feels so good now. It's not as strong as the "old" cyclone with HV before the nerf, but I really don't see a reason why you should ever pick the Officer Carbine now. Edit: I still want to see the iron sights reworked though. That would be the best buff in my opinion.
Horny, two questions:
1) Silksong when
2) Are you using screen dot? I mean like overlay crosshair. I play fps shooters for all my life but i have really hard time feeling that center of the screen for some reason and don't know what to do with it. I wanna learn to feel the center naturally but it kinda too late since i wasnt able to in my younger years
my man horny
Is there someone talking in the background the whole time? Feels like im going insane lol
The only buff that could make me truly love this gun is change it's sights, but I know that won't happen (and I don't really want it to change, I just don't like the sights).
That said, it's still one of my favorite guns.
Cyclone isn't weak at all, I just don't spend that amount of money on my load-out lol.
Me and the gang are Cyclone enjoyers
I love the cyclone, especially paired with katana. I get that other choices like krag are simply better, but that doesnt change the fact that cyclone is strong
Im curious about Terminus honestly. After levering traint point change, it's in the mud. I expect it to be crazy OP 2 more patches down the line LOL
It's still on par with crow for buck shot but it definitely gets hit hard by the point nerf not in strength but attractiveness to actually play. Also have seen lots of specter because of the big buff it got
Im glad the cyclone and the other semi-autos arent that popular. Ive always liked hunts emphasis on careful, methodical gunfighting. Making semi autos too strong would really detract from that.
great vid man
Im prestigeing and frankly theirs very little reason for me to play vetterli to unlokc the cyclone
its not that the cyclone is bad. there are just better options.
Especially if you want a fast firing weapon there is the officer carbine which is just a total headclicker.
The officer carbine is a much worse gun now that it HV was heavily nerfed on it. It has like half the 2 tap range of the cyclone , shoots slower and has more recoil now. I never see it since the HV nerf. Cyclone base MV is almost as fast as the officer with HV.
@@ramsaybolton9151 Its fine. and as i said, headclicker. dont go for bodyshots.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 I get it but 2 tap range is very important because you're not going to have 100% headshot accuracy. Might as well use the born HV if you're just fishing for headshots. Less recoil and similar MV, faster RoF.
@@ramsaybolton9151 bring a scottfield then.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 Slow velocity, slow firing speed lol, who uses that gun?
idk, i love the idea of cyclone, i thought that it would be mt main weapon, but now i just can't land my shots with it. I can land the same shots with sparks or other weapon, but just can't with cyclone. Even on the distance you don't need to lead. for example 30-40 meters. Don''t know why
I think as long as they don't give the cyclone a proper ironsight this gun with stay mid
It should have 5 ammo magazine or become 2 slots weapon. Changin recoil dont make it 30-40% stronger
It's not just the Cyclone that needs the buff, it's all the Vetterlis, no one plays that gun and its variants because of its awful muzzle velocity (unless you play HV, which reduces its already puny damage). Right now there is no reason to chose the Vetterli over the Nagant Carbine.
Dude the thing just has the weirdest hit registration I swear
They need to increase mag size by 1
They should buff it again and nerv the uppercut again xP xD
I just can't stand the iron sights. Only time I bring it is to spam fmj through the compound, kind of a meme build. I don't want it to be meta though, so they should keep it where its at.
This gun is so sleeper. It's perfect anbd they keep making it perfecter
The constant jump wiggles are ridiculous. I get it's how to avoid being hit, but it just looks silly.
if the crosshair is bad the "gun" can be as good as it want it doesent really matter.
Feel like they just need to drop the price too expensive for a gun with only 4 shots of medium.
Anyone knows why Hornet always uses regular Pax instead of Trueshot?
Faster cycle? I used to use the normal pax a lot and when they released trueshot, the slightly slower cycle felt off to me. Pax is a great gun regardless
Not sure about buffing the cyclone but they will nerf uppercut 100%
Best gun in the game, feel like I am playing BF1.
i hope they dont balance things based on player usage uhg
people arguing over guns in hunt as of their real lives depend on them. It's game, it's supposed to be fun, and what is more fun than busting duos and trios with a semi-auto rifle?
Hopefully Crytek finds the audience they're looking for because the old one obviously wasn't good enough? I still think the game is great but what it's becoming is not what I fell in love with as a gamer.
whats your pc specs? where can i find it?
Probly a pc store
But if you use high velocity ammo or fmj you don’t get the buff. The problem of cyclone is the reload time and low velocity.😢
Ban or nerf every semi-auto gun in this game is perfect.
I never see uppercuts in my games but it got nerfed
funny because i see it on almost every hutner in 6 star but hey
@@hornetlul im 6 or 5 only. NA. hardly ever see uppercuts, i know cause i collect them! lol not sure why now, old habits
its hunger or hunt
I doubt that there's any buff that will get people to use it. It just doesn't feel right in the game. That's why I think no one uses it. It doesn't fit the yeehaw vibe.
pain
also as a buff make this two slot
Can we Nerf the avtomat though 🎉👀
hornet kiss
The cyclone is 280$ for 24 medium bullets of 124 damage at 410m/s with 4 rounds in a mag, and if you use high velo it's 340$ for 16 bullets of 116 damage at 510 m/s. The Krag is 345$ for 18 shots of 126 damage long bullets travelling at 610m/s in a 6 round magazine that reloads fast and doesn't need bulletgrubber. Why would you choose a gun with less ammo, less pen, less damage over range, less muzzle velocity, and less magazine size for just a 0.8 s faster cycle rate? Krag is just superior in everything except cycle rate and cost, and for cost it's literally just 5$ more while being so much better.
Valid points, but you cant just pass up the 0.8s cycle rate. Almost every scenario you can two tap a person while the krag cant. But lets be honest, its not that the cyclone is underpowered. The Krag is way overturned right now, esp with the silencer update.
and you didn't even mention the superior iron sight of Krag
@@lnsertCreativeNameHere Sure, when you peek and take a fight the cyclone will be able to two tap in situations the krag can't. The tradeoff is with 2 extra long ammo you'll be able to fish for wallbangs and continue holding angles after shooting multiple times, whereas with the cyclone after 2 or 3 shots you either need to reload or take a fight with only 1 or 2 bullets. Also, when you fight outside at ranges longer than 40m damage fall-of becomes a thing. Also also, if you down someone and they get revive bolted or necro'd you can just execute them with a bodyshot from the krag. Sure you can two tap the guy on revive with a cyclone, but that's also 2 less bullets for a peek or a push from the rest of the guys team AND your reload is worse, and if you miss the second shot you're cooked. The crisp two taps you get from the cyclone just aren't worth all the times the gun just doesn't perform compared to the krag, but to be fair the krag is probably the best rifle right now in terms of value proposition.
Cyclone doesn't need any traits to be fast as fuck.
Both play different roles. I use this weapon at medium and even closer ranges. Krag couldnt handle a cyclone in its face. Its role is exactly that as a drilling.
i suck with this gun lol
Everyone is trying to imitate RachtaZ accent.
Great play.. but god its brutal watching you PC guys with your little adadada wiggle, it ruins every game
I’ll never understand why anyone wants to play on a keyboard and suffer that and the instant head kick aim of a mouse when a controller makes it all totally even and more immersive
Yes it’s worse.. that makes it way better
first
Gey
those revive darts are the worst thing they could've added into the game, the first game just highlights how skill-less they are