Please, help us to tell him to first define "knowledge" for us and contextualize it with Tableegh Jamah and Salafiyyah Jamah. Then, let him come out with a valid conclusion if he is a true researcher. Because, we are tire of all these emotional and ignorance conclusions in Yoruba lands
Knowledge is known to everyone! You cannot tell me the Tebleegs are the people of knowledge! I live with them and I have been with them! There is no knowledge affiliated to them!
@@adelekeshaakir458 Knowledge is not a lip service my brother. It is action of the heart. What many people call knowledge today is education (ability to read and write), which a non Muslim can also learn. Going by their them we will discredit many pious predecessors who do not know how to read and write . Knowledge is ability to know your creator and how to worship him properly and tressed to Rasulullahi SAW. Thanks for this beautiful comment
We do not know about that particular incidence but obviously we believe cannot lie, but will you stand infront of Allah to testify the case still remain the same this country and the whole jammatu tablig all over the world. Why will someone use a single event to generalize ? May Allah forgive us all
Anyone close to Ustaadh Abdul Rauf Bello should please let him know that someone said that "WALLAHI, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN JAMA'AT TEBLEEGH THAT WILL SINK HIM IN WHEN IT COMES TO KNOWLEDGE"
I think you didn't get this Sheikh's message right , he is not boasting nor claiming superiority (in knowledge) over Tableeg jammah. But the methodology of Tableeg in relegating knowledge and not encouraging it . Allah knows best .@@adegbiteismail9107
*Basic Vs Advanced Knowledge* It is a great misconsception for anyone to think Modern Day Tabligh is against knowledge and people of knowledge. What Tabligh emphasize more is the basic knowledge required from every Muslim,of which if someone lacks,he may not fit into criteria of being a Muslim in Allah's court. While Allah warns,we should not die except as Muslim. This basic knowledge is *Fard A'in* As for Advanced Knowledge, not everybody can acquire it except some people of exceptional ability, even when given opportunity to do that. Since Tabligh knew, that this form of knowledge is impossible for everyone to acquire, they don't emphasize it in their circle but individual will do that on his own. If you search for this type of knowledge and you gain it, it will give you ability to give FATWA(for Mufti), ability to do judgement (for Qodi), ability to lead Tarawih and other solat (for huffaz)etc. Having a Qodi,a Mufti and some huffaz in Muslim communities is like FARD KIFAYA. If some people are in that it suffice and doesn't need more emphasis. As for Khuruj fisebilillah, and all the activities in Khuruj fisebilillah are among the things that will make our islam sound and that is the reason Tabligh emphasize on it even at the expense of quitting madrasa for a while. Infact,in cities where everyone is an Hafiz,a Mufti and a Qodi,are where we find much conflict of leadership, closure of mosques (due to ENVY and hatred of Imam), The ummah needs many good Muslims (with basic knowledge) than many leaders with (advanced knowledge). Ummah with more advanced knowledgeable people fall into risk of conflicting ideas as we can see today.
@@mubarakaharogundade1341 Basic knowledge comprises of 6 aspects: 1) Quran (recitation and meaning) 2) Hadiths especially fadoil(reward and punishment for deeds) 3) Basic Fiqh(on solat, purification,Hajj,zakat, business dealing etc) 4) Basic Dua(Masnun Dua) 5)Hayyatul Sahaba (life pattern of the Sahaba and how to copy them) 6) Daily work: of which the first and foremost work for this ummah is daawah, that is hikma use to do daawah, domestic activities (like adab of sleep,masjid,market, clothing etc). As for Advanced Knowledge: This knowledge has 16 branches and includes: 1)Nauw 2)Sarf 3)Balaga 4)Asbab Nuzul 5) Uloom Hadith 6)Suluk 7)Nasih waman suk 8)Usool Fiqh 9)Ilm bayan 10)Ilm Qira'a 11)Lugga(Arabic language) 12)Tajwid and etc Expertise in these 16 branches of knowledge will make you to be a Mufti (ability to pass FATWA),Muffasir(ability to do tafsir), Qodi (judge),Imam(ability to lead Muslim communities). Tabligh jamaah only emphasis the basic knowledge because that is the ones Allah will ask everyone be it male/female and not the advanced Knowledge. Anyone who needs it can go and search for it on his own and nobody will discourage him (and if anyone claims that someone discourage him it is not true). If I want to become a medical doctor,who will discourage me today? Likewise if I want to become a judge (Qodi) why will someone discourage me. The reason of Tabligh outing is to convert Nominal Muslims(Muslim by name) to real Muslim. Discussing advanced Knowledge in presence of a nominal Muslims who hardly pray is like a waste of time. Wama Taufiki ilabiLahi (To understand anything is a Taufiki from only Allah) Don't forget to give time fisebilillah to make effort on your IMAN and yakeen also my respected brother Mubarak! Wasallamu A'alykum.
Daawah Vs FATWA Many people including most of our self acclaimed scholars and Sheikh failed to realize the difference between daawah and FATWA. Daawah is a responsibility for every Muslim and little knowledge is only necessary for that, neglect of it will be severely punished. However FATWA is not for everyone except the advanced knowledgeable in 16 field of uloom, and even then it is not compulsory to give FATWA if keeping quiet on certain issues is maslaha of ummah. All these augment will not come up if our respected Sheikh was able to differentiate daawah from FATWA. Tabligh organisation was created to train Muslim on daawah not on FATWA. Definitely if you are giving FATWA in Julus bayan your Amir will call you to order, but your acceptance will depend on your humility. We have different school specialized in doing different things there they will call you to order. Some school are to train you on how to read and write (college of education), some to train you on health and wellness (college of health sciences), some for military (NDA), some to drive car(driving school). What will happen if you are reading Military text in medical college, the provost will definitely call your attention that you are wasting your time, not because military curriculum is bad but it is not the need of that time.Like if you are off point in Tabligh bayan the amir will check you so that you will not cause problems for other brothers. For instance if you start FATWA(which is not the concern of Tabligh), the local people can beat you to stupor and in court they will win the case, because you are the person who meet them. Anyone who need FATWA who will direct them to their local ULAMA even if a Mufti is in our jamaah, because our mission is to revive daawah and not FATWA (train Ulama like yourself are responsible for that) Tabligh is a school with their curriculum (reason I laughed at those calling Tabligh a sect). In their national markaz in Ilorin Don't you see "ELEKEU"meaning school. School to teach wisdom of daawah because Allah said we should do daawah with wisdom. This wisdom is not learnt in books but on motion,the like of which Musa AS learnt from Khidr AS. Please let open our hearts for proper knowledge to penetrate Wama Taufiki ilabiLahi
I'm unsure how to categorize this-whether as a lecture or a display of superiority. We should acknowledge people's efforts instead. In my opinion, Tabligh is the first and most important movement in Dawah, while Al-Sunnah can then build upon their achievements. If you are a member and disagree with their ethics, it’s best to leave; however, claiming that your new organization or sect is better on the basis that they did not allow you to hold major position is superior and that there are worse options simply reveals your ignorance as a scholar.
@@olayiwolakehinde5962 Calling Tabligh a sect a gross misunderstanding. A sect is a group who entirely deviate from the way of Allah towards hell. Please can you please enumerate why Tabligh are going to hell,my respected brother. We should be careful on what we say and even saying wallahi to support your point (anything we post on media will be there forever). Allah warns(Real believers and not hypocrites): { يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لَا يَسۡخَرۡ قَوۡمٞ مِّن قَوۡمٍ عَسَىٰٓ أَن يَكُونُواْ خَيۡرٗا مِّنۡهُمۡ وَلَا نِسَآءٞ مِّن نِّسَآءٍ عَسَىٰٓ أَن يَكُنَّ خَيۡرٗا مِّنۡهُنَّۖ وَلَا تَلۡمِزُوٓاْ أَنفُسَكُمۡ وَلَا تَنَابَزُواْ بِٱلۡأَلۡقَٰبِۖ بِئۡسَ ٱلِٱسۡمُ ٱلۡفُسُوقُ بَعۡدَ ٱلۡإِيمَٰنِۚ وَمَن لَّمۡ يَتُبۡ فَأُوْلَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلظَّٰلِمُونَ } [Surah Al-Ḥujurāt: 11] Dr. Mustafa Khattab: O believers! Do not let some ˹men˺ ridicule others, they may be better than them, nor let ˹some˺ women ridicule other women, they may be better than them. Do not defame one another, nor call each other by offensive nicknames. How evil it is to act rebelliously after having faith! And whoever does not repent, it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers.
That is your personal encounter Alfa, We know many scholars that is teblig jammah that motivate them for knowledge. Stop generalizing your problem on others..
*Deeper Connotation of knowledge* What is *Real knowledge.* *Ilm/Knowledge* is ability to live a shari'a and SUNNAH based way of life even if I can not read or write Arabic letters. Ignorance is a life deviated from the shari'a even if I am the author of the best Arabic dictionary. *Nabi Yusuf AS prayed* : { قَالَ رَبِّ ٱلسِّجۡنُ أَحَبُّ إِلَيَّ مِمَّا يَدۡعُونَنِيٓ إِلَيۡهِۖ وَإِلَّا تَصۡرِفۡ عَنِّي كَيۡدَهُنَّ أَصۡبُ إِلَيۡهِنَّ وَأَكُن مِّنَ ٱلۡجَٰهِلِينَ } [Surah Yūsuf: 33] Dr. Mustafa Khattab: Joseph prayed, “My Lord! I would rather be in jail than do what they invite me to. And if You do not turn their cunning away from me, I might yield to them and fall into ignorance.”
That is your personal encounter Alfa, We know many scholars that is teblig jammah that motivate them for knowledge. Stop generalizing your problem on others.. Your point is unscientific
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Please, help us to tell him to first define "knowledge" for us and contextualize it with Tableegh Jamah and Salafiyyah Jamah. Then, let him come out with a valid conclusion if he is a true researcher. Because, we are tire of all these emotional and ignorance conclusions in Yoruba lands
Knowledge is known to everyone! You cannot tell me the Tebleegs are the people of knowledge! I live with them and I have been with them! There is no knowledge affiliated to them!
@@adelekeshaakir458
Knowledge is not a lip service my brother. It is action of the heart.
What many people call knowledge today is education (ability to read and write), which a non Muslim can also learn.
Going by their them we will discredit many pious predecessors who do not know how to read and write .
Knowledge is ability to know your creator and how to worship him properly and tressed to Rasulullahi SAW.
Thanks for this beautiful comment
Ogede wo Koko ye tan
We do not know about that particular incidence but obviously we believe cannot lie, but will you stand infront of Allah to testify the case still remain the same this country and the whole jammatu tablig all over the world. Why will someone use a single event to generalize ? May Allah forgive us all
Hey, leave aside an incident. The fact is the jamat whether they are everywhere or not, are heretic and not on correct Sunnah
Anyone close to Ustaadh Abdul Rauf Bello should please let him know that someone said that "WALLAHI, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN JAMA'AT TEBLEEGH THAT WILL SINK HIM IN WHEN IT COMES TO KNOWLEDGE"
I think you didn't get this Sheikh's message right , he is not boasting nor claiming superiority (in knowledge) over Tableeg jammah. But the methodology of Tableeg in relegating knowledge and not encouraging it .
Allah knows best .@@adegbiteismail9107
No voice
*Basic Vs Advanced Knowledge*
It is a great misconsception for anyone to think Modern Day Tabligh is against knowledge and people of knowledge.
What Tabligh emphasize more is the basic knowledge required from every Muslim,of which if someone lacks,he may not fit into criteria of being a Muslim in Allah's court.
While Allah warns,we should not die except as Muslim. This basic knowledge is *Fard A'in*
As for Advanced Knowledge, not everybody can acquire it except some people of exceptional ability, even when given opportunity to do that. Since Tabligh knew, that this form of knowledge is impossible for everyone to acquire, they don't emphasize it in their circle but individual will do that on his own.
If you search for this type of knowledge and you gain it, it will give you ability to give FATWA(for Mufti), ability to do judgement (for Qodi), ability to lead Tarawih and other solat (for huffaz)etc.
Having a Qodi,a Mufti and some huffaz in Muslim communities is like FARD KIFAYA. If some people are in that it suffice and doesn't need more emphasis.
As for Khuruj fisebilillah, and all the activities in Khuruj fisebilillah are among the things that will make our islam sound and that is the reason Tabligh emphasize on it even at the expense of quitting madrasa for a while.
Infact,in cities where everyone is an Hafiz,a Mufti and a Qodi,are where we find much conflict of leadership, closure of mosques (due to ENVY and hatred of Imam),
The ummah needs many good Muslims (with basic knowledge) than many leaders with (advanced knowledge).
Ummah with more advanced knowledgeable people fall into risk of conflicting ideas as we can see today.
What is modern Tableeg? Tableeg is Tableeg, be it old or modern
What is your definition of basic knowledge? And also, those that stop you from seeking further knowledge?
Khuruj, without knowledge? Iro lasan
@@mubarakaharogundade1341
Basic knowledge comprises of 6 aspects:
1) Quran (recitation and meaning)
2) Hadiths especially fadoil(reward and punishment for deeds)
3) Basic Fiqh(on solat, purification,Hajj,zakat, business dealing etc)
4) Basic Dua(Masnun Dua)
5)Hayyatul Sahaba (life pattern of the Sahaba and how to copy them)
6) Daily work: of which the first and foremost work for this ummah is daawah, that is hikma use to do daawah, domestic activities (like adab of sleep,masjid,market, clothing etc).
As for Advanced Knowledge:
This knowledge has 16 branches and includes:
1)Nauw
2)Sarf
3)Balaga
4)Asbab Nuzul
5) Uloom Hadith
6)Suluk
7)Nasih waman suk
8)Usool Fiqh
9)Ilm bayan
10)Ilm Qira'a
11)Lugga(Arabic language)
12)Tajwid and etc
Expertise in these 16 branches of knowledge will make you to be a Mufti (ability to pass FATWA),Muffasir(ability to do tafsir), Qodi (judge),Imam(ability to lead Muslim communities).
Tabligh jamaah only emphasis the basic knowledge because that is the ones Allah will ask everyone be it male/female and not the advanced Knowledge.
Anyone who needs it can go and search for it on his own and nobody will discourage him (and if anyone claims that someone discourage him it is not true).
If I want to become a medical doctor,who will discourage me today?
Likewise if I want to become a judge (Qodi) why will someone discourage me.
The reason of Tabligh outing is to convert Nominal Muslims(Muslim by name) to real Muslim. Discussing advanced Knowledge in presence of a nominal Muslims who hardly pray is like a waste of time.
Wama Taufiki ilabiLahi
(To understand anything is a Taufiki from only Allah)
Don't forget to give time fisebilillah to make effort on your IMAN and yakeen also my respected brother Mubarak! Wasallamu A'alykum.
Thanks for the analysis sir..... that's main issues we supposed to solved in our neighborhood ❤
I don laf die.. Tableegh yeye..
Please don’t joke with it ,we just need to put them on dua for true guardiance
Daawah Vs FATWA
Many people including most of our self acclaimed scholars and Sheikh failed to realize the difference between daawah and FATWA.
Daawah is a responsibility for every Muslim and little knowledge is only necessary for that, neglect of it will be severely punished.
However FATWA is not for everyone except the advanced knowledgeable in 16 field of uloom, and even then it is not compulsory to give FATWA if keeping quiet on certain issues is maslaha of ummah.
All these augment will not come up if our respected Sheikh was able to differentiate daawah from FATWA.
Tabligh organisation was created to train Muslim on daawah not on FATWA. Definitely if you are giving FATWA in Julus bayan your Amir will call you to order, but your acceptance will depend on your humility.
We have different school specialized in doing different things there they will call you to order.
Some school are to train you on how to read and write (college of education), some to train you on health and wellness (college of health sciences), some for military (NDA), some to drive car(driving school).
What will happen if you are reading Military text in medical college, the provost will definitely call your attention that you are wasting your time, not because military curriculum is bad but it is not the need of that time.Like if you are off point in Tabligh bayan the amir will check you so that you will not cause problems for other brothers.
For instance if you start FATWA(which is not the concern of Tabligh), the local people can beat you to stupor and in court they will win the case, because you are the person who meet them.
Anyone who need FATWA who will direct them to their local ULAMA even if a Mufti is in our jamaah, because our mission is to revive daawah and not FATWA (train Ulama like yourself are responsible for that)
Tabligh is a school with their curriculum (reason I laughed at those calling Tabligh a sect).
In their national markaz in Ilorin Don't you see "ELEKEU"meaning school.
School to teach wisdom of daawah because Allah said we should do daawah with wisdom.
This wisdom is not learnt in books but on motion,the like of which Musa AS learnt from Khidr AS.
Please let open our hearts for proper knowledge to penetrate
Wama Taufiki ilabiLahi
الله اعلم
I'm unsure how to categorize this-whether as a lecture or a display of superiority. We should acknowledge people's efforts instead. In my opinion, Tabligh is the first and most important movement in Dawah, while Al-Sunnah can then build upon their achievements. If you are a member and disagree with their ethics, it’s best to leave; however, claiming that your new organization or sect is better on the basis that they did not allow you to hold major position is superior and that there are worse options simply reveals your ignorance as a scholar.
Sincerely you understand were he is driving to,but your lust for the sect will not let u see it .he is specific with his speech Wallahi.
Many do not know whom the Tebleegs are, they just talk out of point. Allaah's aid is sought
@@olayiwolakehinde5962
Calling Tabligh a sect a gross misunderstanding.
A sect is a group who entirely deviate from the way of Allah towards hell.
Please can you please enumerate why Tabligh are going to hell,my respected brother.
We should be careful on what we say and even saying wallahi to support your point (anything we post on media will be there forever).
Allah warns(Real believers and not hypocrites):
{ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لَا يَسۡخَرۡ قَوۡمٞ مِّن قَوۡمٍ عَسَىٰٓ أَن يَكُونُواْ خَيۡرٗا مِّنۡهُمۡ وَلَا نِسَآءٞ مِّن نِّسَآءٍ عَسَىٰٓ أَن يَكُنَّ خَيۡرٗا مِّنۡهُنَّۖ وَلَا تَلۡمِزُوٓاْ أَنفُسَكُمۡ وَلَا تَنَابَزُواْ بِٱلۡأَلۡقَٰبِۖ بِئۡسَ ٱلِٱسۡمُ ٱلۡفُسُوقُ بَعۡدَ ٱلۡإِيمَٰنِۚ وَمَن لَّمۡ يَتُبۡ فَأُوْلَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلظَّٰلِمُونَ }
[Surah Al-Ḥujurāt: 11]
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
O believers! Do not let some ˹men˺ ridicule others, they may be better than them, nor let ˹some˺ women ridicule other women, they may be better than them. Do not defame one another, nor call each other by offensive nicknames. How evil it is to act rebelliously after having faith! And whoever does not repent, it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers.
That is your personal encounter Alfa,
We know many scholars that is teblig jammah that motivate them for knowledge.
Stop generalizing your problem on others..
Name them ooo, na lie
*Deeper Connotation of knowledge*
What is *Real knowledge.*
*Ilm/Knowledge* is ability to live a shari'a and SUNNAH based way of life even if I can not read or write Arabic letters.
Ignorance is a life deviated from the shari'a even if I am the author of the best Arabic dictionary.
*Nabi Yusuf AS prayed* :
{ قَالَ رَبِّ ٱلسِّجۡنُ أَحَبُّ إِلَيَّ مِمَّا يَدۡعُونَنِيٓ إِلَيۡهِۖ وَإِلَّا تَصۡرِفۡ عَنِّي كَيۡدَهُنَّ أَصۡبُ إِلَيۡهِنَّ وَأَكُن مِّنَ ٱلۡجَٰهِلِينَ }
[Surah Yūsuf: 33]
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
Joseph prayed, “My Lord! I would rather be in jail than do what they invite me to. And if You do not turn their cunning away from me, I might yield to them and fall into ignorance.”
That is your personal encounter Alfa,
We know many scholars that is teblig jammah that motivate them for knowledge.
Stop generalizing your problem on others..
Your point is unscientific
This man has problems
Salafiya 1990 money Hajj no money no DAWAH 😂😂😂