All Premium Squads (Gold Bought) explained - Are they worth buying? Edit: MG45 squad is worse than the normal tech tree MG gunners and since we can expected 100 round MG42s in the near future, this squad will be completely underpowered soon. American Squads: ua-cam.com/video/Kt1B-uDeWrA/v-deo.html x.com/ParaDivisionYT 0:00 Moschetto M91 1:26 Panzer 38 (t) F 3:02 Beretta M38 4:34 Gewehr 41 (M) 5:15 TZ-45 6:17 Stug III G 9:27 Sniper Gewehr 41 10:52 8,8cm Flakbus 13:44 Gerät 03 15:17 Suomi KP/-31 16:43 FW 190 D-9 18:59 Dicker Max 21:46 Stug III A 23:52 Erma EMP 24:30 Bf 110 C-6 25:53 Panzer III M 28:18 Bf 109 G-14 30:16 MP 18 31:20 Breda 88 (P.XI)
MG45 can hold 100 more rounds in reserve (250 with a large ammo pouch) and has a significantly higher fire rate. Not to mention the squad has pretty good perk points.
Pz 3 M is even better. It actually has ~80mm armour, due to additional high hardness plates. At an angle you can have ~100mm frontal armour. It reliably stops soviet 45mm and even early 76mm. It’s br2 tiger.
The beretta is the best BR I SMG. Same stats as the BR IV. I know it has less ammo but in BR I you don’t feel that as much because everyone has bolt actions
you are missing a couple of important points regarding the cheap squads, 1st quite a few got a slot so you can add an engineer to the squad so that is value right there, 2nd on some type of squads notably infantry / assault / mg you can respec them to carry 2 weapons and you can use a low BR shitter squad at any BR. sure, you might say skill points are shit on some squads but I for one never look too much into that and I do just fine in game. for example i shit on kids with BR 1 italian riflemen decked out with carcano PG / CR carbines in high BR on second weapon slot. this is like a cheapsters guide, you can get much value for low $ cycling 3-4 cheap premium squads that unlike vehicles you can do very decent in at any BR just by adding secondary weapon and benefit from 100% exp/silver. also about vehicles BR I premium planes are very useful to quickly snipe some annoying fucker or a bomber squadron even at BR V, so it's worth getting the RE2001 / I16 /24 and even tech tree hurricane iib/ tropin my opinion, if you don't want to be super effective in bombing with them you can play them at all BRs
I agree. For me, discounted MP18 Squad and Moschetto are the best squads for anyone who wants to spend as less as possible and get an option to circle many premium squads per match for maximum xp. MP18 Squad got even better since the Battle Bass Soldiers provide 20% bonus xp, because that also applies to the old premium squads where engineers can be manually added. Also, after the one premium squad slot for each nation was added, getting one of these cheap squads is also very helpful in using that slot without spending a lot of money. And like you said: by skilling the secondary weapon perk, the drawbacks of the weaker weapons of the squads can be negated.
adding engineers is a factor indeed, i didnt check for it on some old squads. regarding letting soldiers dual wield to uptier them, this is barely an improvement on higher BRs as you still have a usually underpowered squad based on squad size, so the additional utility of the stronger weapon barely compensates for the small squad size. these details would make some squads a bit more playable, though still just OK and not really strong buying choices.
@@paradivision1362 I would say it's totally worth it if 1. you are a decent fps player 2. you want to invest in the game but not crazy amounts and i guess 3. you aren't easily bored or obsessed with mimaxing. with a few thousand gold, on sale, you can get 3-4 premium squads cycle them and get grind benefits and play at most BRs with them, I for one have no issue cycling 5 man squads and being in the top of the scoreboard. the problem is, that for new players it's hard to know these details, that some squads get extra soldier slot, that yo ucan put in weapons as you unlock them etc, and it's in darkflow's interest to make us buy buy buy and not find a sweetspot where we can play OK without buying 30 squads to taste every flavor of the rainbow and every patch a new gimmick is added that doesn't impact the game much. most impactful gimmick is paratroopers imo, the rest you can either do without or build a squad to do something or the other, large or small squad, meta or mediocre weapons, skill is still the deciding factor
You are sleeping on the suomi squad. Yes, they are worse than conders or stg, but they are better than any tech tree smg in the German lineup. The slower fire rate compared to the ppsh is actually an advantage bc of ammo consumption
I always take my StuG III A. It has 19 shells of APBC and 18 of HEAT. APCBC is garbage, but the HEAT does work well enough. I wish they gave it regular HE and HEAT, but the snail must nerf its massive power somehow. Just make sure you are using it as an assault gun. Hammering infantry on objectives with the HEAT and smoke shells. I always take it.
After watching some of your videos I am trying to understand why you put so much value on the number of men in a squad? After playing for more than 1000 hours I came to the conclusion that having more than 5 guys in a squad brings more disadvantages than advantages, e.g. soldiers blocking your line of view when aiming, blocking entrances, making enemies focus on you more often etc....
@@yamatokurusaki5790 i could see the value at high BR when youre just cycling FG42s and STGs. Yes, more bots with STGs = more firepower and usually more kills. But depending on the squad you play and at low BRs, Bigger squad size is absolutely a handicap.
@@yamatokurusaki5790 It's not just the "handling"... some weapons/squads have so bad animations and sounds that they are not as pleasant to play as the stats on paper may suggest. Gewehr 41 Mauser for example as an unfinished reloading animation: even if only 1 round is missing in the magazin, the soldier reloads 2 clips of 5 rounds in the gun... I am glad that we have the firing range for testing squads before buying.
@Shiny49GER that's also shared with the Polish Semi auto it always reloads 10 rounds When it comes to the Gewer 41 ... It also has bad sight but no bc the gun itself but bc it was weird placement of the camera
I don't agree with premium needing to he stronger then techtree ... Sounds like pay to win to me You ignore couple of other important stuff Firerate and armor isn't everything
if things are moderately stronger and not oppressively stronger than tech tree stuff then its ok. a game obv needs stuff worth buying to exist and pure cosmetics wont work in enlisted.
Personally oposition. M10 is Great, But suffers from terrible back speed. Has one of the best camps Germans can get for Winter, and also one of the more reliable tanks. Not crazy good or bad, but if your looking at the golds vs paid. M10 is better then the two. Only surpassed by DM which has been surpassed by the Maraders and their close fire rate + MG at some protection. You want to talk really stuff. Flame Tank, Suomi, Sniper, Paratroopers (both), HT, are the best take aways. I own almost every German exclusive, the Rocket Tank has been nerfed, the Plane is worse then BR3s, and most of the Rifles get outpaced, especially the Gerald.
it is. the normal panzer4J is overall better and more reliable, but the dicker max offer the by far strongest offensive power you can get on BR3. its downside obv is being very easy to kill
Hey paradivision I wanted to ask you if enlisted is going to bring old premium squads back like Italian operations and medics premium squad for German if you know or can find out for me I would appreciate it I’m trying to collect all infantry squads for enlisted thanks
MG45 squad is worse than the normal tech tree MG gunners and since we can expected 100 round MG42s in the near future, this squad will be completely underpowered soon.
They removed all the good sqauds for axis germans even weapons like the gewher kurz automatic & the artillery luger i bought like the last 2 sqauds like the japanese apc & type hei lmg i only got it cuz of sale but damn these sauds suck soo much & there charging you so much 😂
For a 35 minute video, you don’t really go into depth with most squads. Things such as perk points ect can be the make or break of a premium squad. The moschetto for example the soldiers are riflemen 3 with vitality and you can put bandage speed on them on top of their base perk. They are extremely survivable. BR 1 paratrooper you don’t mention that they get a BR 3 MG34 in their crate which is amazing. You’re also reading the un upgraded stats when you inspect the weapons. The Suomi KP is far from unplayable and is currently the only way for a player to get a drum mag SMG for Germany. It preforms extremely well and is only slightly behind the PPSH.
i left out that many details to keep the video under 1 hour. the german segment already got much longer than i had planned. i revised many squads after making the videos and not a single one jumped into the worth-it-category, actually 2 squads dropped down to just-ok-buys. obv everyone can buy what he wants, this series is just to give people advice who want to get only the absolutely best squads.
All Premium Squads (Gold Bought) explained - Are they worth buying?
Edit: MG45 squad is worse than the normal tech tree MG gunners and since we can expected 100 round MG42s in the near future, this squad will be completely underpowered soon.
American Squads: ua-cam.com/video/Kt1B-uDeWrA/v-deo.html
x.com/ParaDivisionYT
0:00 Moschetto M91
1:26 Panzer 38 (t) F
3:02 Beretta M38
4:34 Gewehr 41 (M)
5:15 TZ-45
6:17 Stug III G
9:27 Sniper Gewehr 41
10:52 8,8cm Flakbus
13:44 Gerät 03
15:17 Suomi KP/-31
16:43 FW 190 D-9
18:59 Dicker Max
21:46 Stug III A
23:52 Erma EMP
24:30 Bf 110 C-6
25:53 Panzer III M
28:18 Bf 109 G-14
30:16 MP 18
31:20 Breda 88 (P.XI)
MG45 can hold 100 more rounds in reserve (250 with a large ammo pouch) and has a significantly higher fire rate. Not to mention the squad has pretty good perk points.
@@tjlockie2214 additional reserve rounds are nice to have, but barely relevant as soldiers rarely survive long enough.
@@paradivision1362 pretty relevant when the weapon has 1500 fire rate.
I finally have the Pz III M! I have one painted up the same in a 1/100 scale model. I have been waiting to buy it on sale.
Pz 3 M is even better. It actually has ~80mm armour, due to additional high hardness plates. At an angle you can have ~100mm frontal armour. It reliably stops soviet 45mm and even early 76mm. It’s br2 tiger.
Yea idk how he didn't notice that but he made more mistakes
The soumi is my favorite premium squad of the Germans in high tier
How good is it?
I have it as well very good, better the the karily 39m
@@christophermckenzie7064 isn't basically any smg better then Kiraly39M?
@@yamatokurusaki5790 pretty similar to the PPSH41 but for the Germans I also a few German PPSH41s but you can't get them anymore
@sweetkiller9696 yea i should have got them when i had the chance ages ago but eh
The beretta is the best BR I SMG. Same stats as the BR IV. I know it has less ammo but in BR I you don’t feel that as much because everyone has bolt actions
Or SMGs
you are missing a couple of important points regarding the cheap squads, 1st quite a few got a slot so you can add an engineer to the squad so that is value right there, 2nd on some type of squads notably infantry / assault / mg you can respec them to carry 2 weapons and you can use a low BR shitter squad at any BR. sure, you might say skill points are shit on some squads but I for one never look too much into that and I do just fine in game. for example i shit on kids with BR 1 italian riflemen decked out with carcano PG / CR carbines in high BR on second weapon slot. this is like a cheapsters guide, you can get much value for low $ cycling 3-4 cheap premium squads that unlike vehicles you can do very decent in at any BR just by adding secondary weapon and benefit from 100% exp/silver. also about vehicles BR I premium planes are very useful to quickly snipe some annoying fucker or a bomber squadron even at BR V, so it's worth getting the RE2001 / I16 /24 and even tech tree hurricane iib/ tropin my opinion, if you don't want to be super effective in bombing with them you can play them at all BRs
I agree. For me, discounted MP18 Squad and Moschetto are the best squads for anyone who wants to spend as less as possible and get an option to circle many premium squads per match for maximum xp. MP18 Squad got even better since the Battle Bass Soldiers provide 20% bonus xp, because that also applies to the old premium squads where engineers can be manually added.
Also, after the one premium squad slot for each nation was added, getting one of these cheap squads is also very helpful in using that slot without spending a lot of money.
And like you said: by skilling the secondary weapon perk, the drawbacks of the weaker weapons of the squads can be negated.
He is ignoring couple of things
adding engineers is a factor indeed, i didnt check for it on some old squads. regarding letting soldiers dual wield to uptier them, this is barely an improvement on higher BRs as you still have a usually underpowered squad based on squad size, so the additional utility of the stronger weapon barely compensates for the small squad size. these details would make some squads a bit more playable, though still just OK and not really strong buying choices.
@@paradivision1362 I would say it's totally worth it if 1. you are a decent fps player 2. you want to invest in the game but not crazy amounts and i guess 3. you aren't easily bored or obsessed with mimaxing. with a few thousand gold, on sale, you can get 3-4 premium squads cycle them and get grind benefits and play at most BRs with them, I for one have no issue cycling 5 man squads and being in the top of the scoreboard. the problem is, that for new players it's hard to know these details, that some squads get extra soldier slot, that yo ucan put in weapons as you unlock them etc, and it's in darkflow's interest to make us buy buy buy and not find a sweetspot where we can play OK without buying 30 squads to taste every flavor of the rainbow and every patch a new gimmick is added that doesn't impact the game much. most impactful gimmick is paratroopers imo, the rest you can either do without or build a squad to do something or the other, large or small squad, meta or mediocre weapons, skill is still the deciding factor
The Soviets didn't "copy the design" of the Suomi.
PPD existed before the Winter War.
What they borrowed was the drum mag system.
You are sleeping on the suomi squad. Yes, they are worse than conders or stg, but they are better than any tech tree smg in the German lineup. The slower fire rate compared to the ppsh is actually an advantage bc of ammo consumption
I always take my StuG III A. It has 19 shells of APBC and 18 of HEAT. APCBC is garbage, but the HEAT does work well enough. I wish they gave it regular HE and HEAT, but the snail must nerf its massive power somehow. Just make sure you are using it as an assault gun.
Hammering infantry on objectives with the HEAT and smoke shells. I always take it.
The Soviets didn't copy the Suomi design.
The PPD existed before the winter war.
What they borrowed was only the drum mag system.
The Pz III M also has more camo options than the J1. If that matters to you.
After watching some of your videos I am trying to understand why you put so much value on the number of men in a squad? After playing for more than 1000 hours I came to the conclusion that having more than 5 guys in a squad brings more disadvantages than advantages, e.g. soldiers blocking your line of view when aiming, blocking entrances, making enemies focus on you more often etc....
Also the whole playerbase is obsessed with firerate on everything instead of actually handling and other stats
@@yamatokurusaki5790 i could see the value at high BR when youre just cycling FG42s and STGs. Yes, more bots with STGs = more firepower and usually more kills. But depending on the squad you play and at low BRs, Bigger squad size is absolutely a handicap.
@@yamatokurusaki5790 It's not just the "handling"... some weapons/squads have so bad animations and sounds that they are not as pleasant to play as the stats on paper may suggest. Gewehr 41 Mauser for example as an unfinished reloading animation: even if only 1 round is missing in the magazin, the soldier reloads 2 clips of 5 rounds in the gun...
I am glad that we have the firing range for testing squads before buying.
@Shiny49GER that's also shared with the Polish Semi auto it always reloads 10 rounds
When it comes to the Gewer 41 ... It also has bad sight but no bc the gun itself but bc it was weird placement of the camera
@@adadadad-hh1zy i like to play with 5 man squads it makes me more effective then needing to care about bigger squads
I have the mp18 one and it allows you to add an engineer with whatever equipment you want
The 8.8cm Flak is so disappointing at BR IV. Should really be BR 3.
...and they are Italians.
I don't agree with premium needing to he stronger then techtree ... Sounds like pay to win to me
You ignore couple of other important stuff
Firerate and armor isn't everything
if things are moderately stronger and not oppressively stronger than tech tree stuff then its ok. a game obv needs stuff worth buying to exist and pure cosmetics wont work in enlisted.
Personally oposition.
M10 is Great, But suffers from terrible back speed. Has one of the best camps Germans can get for Winter, and also one of the more reliable tanks. Not crazy good or bad, but if your looking at the golds vs paid. M10 is better then the two. Only surpassed by DM which has been surpassed by the Maraders and their close fire rate + MG at some protection.
You want to talk really stuff. Flame Tank, Suomi, Sniper, Paratroopers (both), HT, are the best take aways. I own almost every German exclusive, the Rocket Tank has been nerfed, the Plane is worse then BR3s, and most of the Rifles get outpaced, especially the Gerald.
Hey para what do you think about the dicker max because i just want a fun to play tank for Germany and it looks look the dicker max is that
it is. the normal panzer4J is overall better and more reliable, but the dicker max offer the by far strongest offensive power you can get on BR3. its downside obv is being very easy to kill
Ok thank you for you advice
Hey paradivision I wanted to ask you if enlisted is going to bring old premium squads back like Italian operations and medics premium squad for German if you know or can find out for me I would appreciate it I’m trying to collect all infantry squads for enlisted thanks
yes theyre returning every couple months during sales
Ok maybe im dumb, but why tf cant i change the premium weapon of a premium squad?? Is this for real?
its on purpose by gaijin. thats why many squads here get not recommended.
@@paradivision1362 Goofy ahh gajin move. Should have know. Saw your video after i bought the tz 45 pack for the Germany :(
du hast das MG 45 vergessen.
ja, ist inzwischen im pinned comment adressiert.
whats the mg45 like?
MG45 squad is worse than the normal tech tree MG gunners and since we can expected 100 round MG42s in the near future, this squad will be completely underpowered soon.
@ thanks
Generic mg42
@@Jack07556holds 100 more rounds in reserve and has a significant fire rate increase. The perks on the soldiers are very good too.
They removed all the good sqauds for axis germans even weapons like the gewher kurz automatic & the artillery luger i bought like the last 2 sqauds like the japanese apc & type hei lmg i only got it cuz of sale but damn these sauds suck soo much & there charging you so much 😂
For a 35 minute video, you don’t really go into depth with most squads. Things such as perk points ect can be the make or break of a premium squad. The moschetto for example the soldiers are riflemen 3 with vitality and you can put bandage speed on them on top of their base perk. They are extremely survivable. BR 1 paratrooper you don’t mention that they get a BR 3 MG34 in their crate which is amazing. You’re also reading the un upgraded stats when you inspect the weapons. The Suomi KP is far from unplayable and is currently the only way for a player to get a drum mag SMG for Germany. It preforms extremely well and is only slightly behind the PPSH.
i left out that many details to keep the video under 1 hour. the german segment already got much longer than i had planned. i revised many squads after making the videos and not a single one jumped into the worth-it-category, actually 2 squads dropped down to just-ok-buys. obv everyone can buy what he wants, this series is just to give people advice who want to get only the absolutely best squads.