@@zanfre I do have a lot of older videos like this but with the new updates, some are out of date. Like I say in the video, it's been hard to talk about this because so much has changed and I'm still trying to wrap my head around everything. I don't want to say something that's not correct and it can be tough. I appreciate the support.
@@Vivimaster thank you so much for your service. I did a Mediterranean float with the Navy. I got to see a good part of the world and loved the ship and military personnel that I served with. I had a really good time. Salute to you, my good friend! 🫡🫡🫡
@@detective1785 with a 115% added to make that number. The only way to completely verify this is to go back in time and do 100% which is impossible but, there would be no reason in this case for extra badges and also extra %.... Also food for though. If you are putting in 15000 experience points, that number does not add up correctly.bit also states if you don't have at least 100%, you lose experience value. Just another Wing Fighter number that nobody will ever understand in full and keeps everyone guessing so, I would be more comfortable in still stating, it's better to be 115% because you would lose even more of that experience points going into the next round and yes, you can verify the experience levels at 15000 before I even do this. So technically if you are not getting the 120%, you lose factual experience by upgrading as you could see, that I could not get it to work as other said it's possible. So by having the 115% keeps you from losing even more experience as again, it's states if you are only doing 100%... It's Wing Fighter math at its finest... I think as I said again, it's a glitch or has no factual sense to any of this as always.
@@WingFighterTalkI think you completely overthought this whole thing. The loss of exp only applies if you fail to promote. If your odds are 75% and you don't promote, then you will have to fill up your xp bar again to try again and that amount is the amount they are talking about. XP after the promotion is based on how much was left over from the last multiplier that was applied. For example.: If you needed 1000 to finish this level and you 5x bonus rolled and got 5000 instead, you start the next tier w/ 4000 bonus xp that didn't get applied to the previous rank. What's happening is, you're needing just a smidge to get the next ranking and you're 10x drawing. Each of those draws gets it's own multiplier calculation. Whenever you are close to the promotion point, youve still got xp to be applied and you're just going over. But you're not getting a bonus of 15%. That can be verified by doing them 1 at a time instead of 10x when u get close to promotion. Going past 100% doesn't actually get you anything and more importantly, is easy to test. When you get close to getting the next rank, do it 1 at a time instead of 10 at a time. Those multipliers that pop up are only applying to one of the xp sinks and not all 10 of the xp syncs. That can be tested by noting your xp before you do it, the multiplier That pops up, and your xp after you do it. I've been rolling the dice and leveling up at 95% every time bc it's close enough that the odds I lose xp from failing sre minimal and it costs less diamonds. That little bonus you get towards the next xp is just whatever bonus u got from rolling a multiplier and not needing all of the xp for this ascend. There are several things to test here but from my observations I've found no reason to exceed 95% and definitely no reason to go above 100%
8:30 you were at 154700, got a x3 bonus on 15,000, 154700+45000=199700 199700-186600=13100 The exp loss only occurs if promotion fails, if promotion succeeds, regardless of success rate, there's no exp loss.
@@smokeyninja9920 I know that's not true. This video is with 115% and everyone keeps comparing it to 100% that nobody has done the math on. I'm the only one willing to put up videos that make everyone think for one, and two, to come back and show proof with Thier testing. Guess what I did the other day? Ascended to level 2 stars, I used 100% and the loss was over 114,150 points if you did it wrong. By doing 100% vs the 115%, I lost 47150 points to the next assend. I know for a fact now, you have a chance to lose by only doing a 100%. I did take pictures of it and will send them out to anyone that wants the proof. Also, why would there be paid badges that you can buy and reach to 120% by others claims also? If it was just 100% there would not be the extra you can give, but the game gives you an option to waste materials? Again, I lost 47,150 points the last assend with 100%. By all means, show me your video this is not true. You are using my video that shows me as sending at 115%, not 100%. Let's make sure this is very clear. So if you want to keep doing the 100% by all means, keep doing it that way.
@@WingFighterTalk Sure, I got a spare phone, I can start a fresh game and do that, gonna take a few days to rank it up past private since you can't apply badges if the success rate is greater or equal to 100%, but then I'll do the first promotion after at 95% then the second at 120%. As to why they would allow you to exceed 100% when applying badges if it doesn't provide a benefit? Well I'm sure the devs never put code into the game with features that are dysfunctional (such as shown in your crit damage vs attack rate video a couple weeks ago where attack rate shows negligible results to baseline, while crit damage provides clear benefits). It would not surprise me if they just didn't consider using badges to exceed 100% and so only applied a check that success rate
@smokeyninja9920 I never once take offense, and I never thought this was offensive in anyway. I'm not like that. It's crazy when players really do get offended reading cold words without emotion really tied to the message. If someone would invent that, it would change social media forever. We are all trying to figure out the game and I really appreciate your comments. We are here to push eachother to be better players, get a higher score and see if Wing fighter is giving us what they say they do. I again lost points the last ascend at 100% and just am experimenting as always. I don't want to risk losing anymore points over this but, there is something weird going on with this whole % thing. I have not yet, seem a player prove they have been able to get the 120% and bonus form that.
@@WingFighterTalk Videos posted, there was no missing or gained exp upon successful promotion whether the chance of success was under, at, or above 100%. 115% promotion done after the update
@smokeyninja9920 well I will say it 100 times, I will not take a chance and the last two upgrades I tested at 100%, I lost tens of thousands of points. It pennies to ensure you get at least 115% but if you are comfortable with 100%, go for it. Don't say I did not warn you. Best of luck b
Panthro if you equip Inferno then you get more idle rewards, i tried it several times for 24h . You get much more and 1 purple mother ship token more and other things. Im much higher then my friends with same activity, it's actually broken.
Is the XP bump not just the overflow from before the promotion? You essentially overpaid XP to get the promotion and that being applied to the next rank
@@davyt174 when you add up the total, 115%, it adds to 13100 vs the 15000 points I spent to assend. If you read below the badges, it says you can lose 93,300 and the badges give you a higher % of not losing those points.I think there still needs to be further testing with 100% vs the 115 but again, I'm still trying to see anyone that claims you can get to 120% that I have not been able to trigger. This means 100% you can lose more points or break even. It's really stupid how Wing Fighter does this and at 120%, you would factually get your 15000 or more spent for this level up. The bonus is not losing points. Some say you can get the 120% but I have not been able to make it work. It's one of the strangest parts of the game. If you did not get a bonus from this or trying to over % this, it would not be apart of the game.
i starting using diamonds to buy more hunts, i feel on a need for legion points. but i also a fan of the military rank. i curious which its the max rank
@@andrerossel8394 it's kinda interesting the way the bounced around the military ranking as I stated. It went from a mid enlisted rank to all of the sudden a officer rank. I'm very interested now to see what the end rank is also.
I'm assuming you know this, but just in case, you know you get diamonds for clicking on each link within the community tab, right? I only bring it up because the community button on your screen shows as unread, which means you may have more diamonds to earn in that tab. Thanks for all that you do to help enrich the community.
@WingFighterTalk I understand that. However, after returning to the game from clicking on those links in game, I got 100 diamonds per social media site visted.
@WingFighterTalk I got the 100 diamonds when I returned to the game after clicking the social media site for the first time from the community tab. Thanks again for all you do to give us tips and tricks and experiment with what works and doesn't.
@@Modio81 I can honestly say, that is true. But, there were many, many players that could not even get gold pieces for a few weeks. I have done nothing but red level sweeps and you can see, I still don't have them as many other players still have none. Not sure if Wing Fighter is broken. Lol
You should make more videos "talking" like this one, help us clear our doubts. Thanks!
@@zanfre I do have a lot of older videos like this but with the new updates, some are out of date. Like I say in the video, it's been hard to talk about this because so much has changed and I'm still trying to wrap my head around everything. I don't want to say something that's not correct and it can be tough. I appreciate the support.
@@WingFighterTalk Yeah, I've watched a lot of them! Showing my support for the great job you're doing! ;-)
@zanfre it's really means a lot. If you ever have suggestions or questions, I'm always here for you.
Yeah man I watch a lot of these videos too is so good so useful
@nickhiew7862 🙏🙏🙏
Love it @11:30 of the military ranks. I am one too, but Navy.
@@Vivimaster thank you so much for your service. I did a Mediterranean float with the Navy. I got to see a good part of the world and loved the ship and military personnel that I served with. I had a really good time. Salute to you, my good friend! 🫡🫡🫡
199700 - 186600 = 13100 - this is your "Bonus" after promotion. Look at your EXP bar at 8:30
I mean there is no bonuses. Your overfilled exp was moved to the next rank
@@detective1785 with a 115% added to make that number. The only way to completely verify this is to go back in time and do 100% which is impossible but, there would be no reason in this case for extra badges and also extra %.... Also food for though. If you are putting in 15000 experience points, that number does not add up correctly.bit also states if you don't have at least 100%, you lose experience value. Just another Wing Fighter number that nobody will ever understand in full and keeps everyone guessing so, I would be more comfortable in still stating, it's better to be 115% because you would lose even more of that experience points going into the next round and yes, you can verify the experience levels at 15000 before I even do this. So technically if you are not getting the 120%, you lose factual experience by upgrading as you could see, that I could not get it to work as other said it's possible. So by having the 115% keeps you from losing even more experience as again, it's states if you are only doing 100%... It's Wing Fighter math at its finest... I think as I said again, it's a glitch or has no factual sense to any of this as always.
@@WingFighterTalkI think you completely overthought this whole thing.
The loss of exp only applies if you fail to promote. If your odds are 75% and you don't promote, then you will have to fill up your xp bar again to try again and that amount is the amount they are talking about. XP after the promotion is based on how much was left over from the last multiplier that was applied.
For example.: If you needed 1000 to finish this level and you 5x bonus rolled and got 5000 instead, you start the next tier w/ 4000 bonus xp that didn't get applied to the previous rank. What's happening is, you're needing just a smidge to get the next ranking and you're 10x drawing. Each of those draws gets it's own multiplier calculation. Whenever you are close to the promotion point, youve still got xp to be applied and you're just going over. But you're not getting a bonus of 15%. That can be verified by doing them 1 at a time instead of 10x when u get close to promotion.
Going past 100% doesn't actually get you anything and more importantly, is easy to test. When you get close to getting the next rank, do it 1 at a time instead of 10 at a time. Those multipliers that pop up are only applying to one of the xp sinks and not all 10 of the xp syncs. That can be tested by noting your xp before you do it, the multiplier That pops up, and your xp after you do it.
I've been rolling the dice and leveling up at 95% every time bc it's close enough that the odds I lose xp from failing sre minimal and it costs less diamonds. That little bonus you get towards the next xp is just whatever bonus u got from rolling a multiplier and not needing all of the xp for this ascend.
There are several things to test here but from my observations I've found no reason to exceed 95% and definitely no reason to go above 100%
8:30 you were at 154700, got a x3 bonus on 15,000, 154700+45000=199700 199700-186600=13100
The exp loss only occurs if promotion fails, if promotion succeeds, regardless of success rate, there's no exp loss.
@@smokeyninja9920 I know that's not true. This video is with 115% and everyone keeps comparing it to 100% that nobody has done the math on. I'm the only one willing to put up videos that make everyone think for one, and two, to come back and show proof with Thier testing. Guess what I did the other day? Ascended to level 2 stars, I used 100% and the loss was over 114,150 points if you did it wrong. By doing 100% vs the 115%, I lost 47150 points to the next assend. I know for a fact now, you have a chance to lose by only doing a 100%. I did take pictures of it and will send them out to anyone that wants the proof.
Also, why would there be paid badges that you can buy and reach to 120% by others claims also? If it was just 100% there would not be the extra you can give, but the game gives you an option to waste materials? Again, I lost 47,150 points the last assend with 100%. By all means, show me your video this is not true. You are using my video that shows me as sending at 115%, not 100%. Let's make sure this is very clear. So if you want to keep doing the 100% by all means, keep doing it that way.
@@WingFighterTalk Sure, I got a spare phone, I can start a fresh game and do that, gonna take a few days to rank it up past private since you can't apply badges if the success rate is greater or equal to 100%, but then I'll do the first promotion after at 95% then the second at 120%.
As to why they would allow you to exceed 100% when applying badges if it doesn't provide a benefit? Well I'm sure the devs never put code into the game with features that are dysfunctional (such as shown in your crit damage vs attack rate video a couple weeks ago where attack rate shows negligible results to baseline, while crit damage provides clear benefits). It would not surprise me if they just didn't consider using badges to exceed 100% and so only applied a check that success rate
@smokeyninja9920 I never once take offense, and I never thought this was offensive in anyway. I'm not like that. It's crazy when players really do get offended reading cold words without emotion really tied to the message. If someone would invent that, it would change social media forever.
We are all trying to figure out the game and I really appreciate your comments. We are here to push eachother to be better players, get a higher score and see if Wing fighter is giving us what they say they do. I again lost points the last ascend at 100% and just am experimenting as always. I don't want to risk losing anymore points over this but, there is something weird going on with this whole % thing. I have not yet, seem a player prove they have been able to get the 120% and bonus form that.
@@WingFighterTalk Videos posted, there was no missing or gained exp upon successful promotion whether the chance of success was under, at, or above 100%.
115% promotion done after the update
@smokeyninja9920 well I will say it 100 times, I will not take a chance and the last two upgrades I tested at 100%, I lost tens of thousands of points. It pennies to ensure you get at least 115% but if you are comfortable with 100%, go for it. Don't say I did not warn you. Best of luck b
thanks a lot for sharing your exp.
@@linalan1024 the thanks is always mine. Big thank you for the support. 🙏🩷🙏
Remember I said it first commanders will play a part in the mothership!!! Another 👊thx for the info🥷
@@nobledenoel1 absolutely.
Thanks again
@@melvincobragreen606 big thank you for the support.
Panthro if you equip Inferno then you get more idle rewards, i tried it several times for 24h . You get much more and 1 purple mother ship token more and other things. Im much higher then my friends with same activity, it's actually broken.
@@TheEnd-zj5sq wow. That's a huge tip if it actually work. I'm going to have to try it.
@@WingFighterTalk no problem, OrGi is with you Buddy 💪
@TheEnd-zj5sq great tip. Thank you again.
Upgrades to the Weapons in the camps does not actually upgrade them. These camps upgrades are only for increasing bp ?
@@asifiqbalbwp I show in the video that it does upgrade the weapons.
Nice I've been waiting for you to release this video especially for all the new upgrades good job bro thank you
@@nickhiew7862 I really appreciate you. Thank you for the support.
ths for the info
@@robert-marius9792 🙏🩷🙏
Is the XP bump not just the overflow from before the promotion? You essentially overpaid XP to get the promotion and that being applied to the next rank
@@davyt174 when you add up the total, 115%, it adds to 13100 vs the 15000 points I spent to assend. If you read below the badges, it says you can lose 93,300 and the badges give you a higher % of not losing those points.I think there still needs to be further testing with 100% vs the 115 but again, I'm still trying to see anyone that claims you can get to 120% that I have not been able to trigger. This means 100% you can lose more points or break even. It's really stupid how Wing Fighter does this and at 120%, you would factually get your 15000 or more spent for this level up. The bonus is not losing points. Some say you can get the 120% but I have not been able to make it work. It's one of the strangest parts of the game. If you did not get a bonus from this or trying to over % this, it would not be apart of the game.
i starting using diamonds to buy more hunts, i feel on a need for legion points. but i also a fan of the military rank. i curious which its the max rank
@@andrerossel8394 it's kinda interesting the way the bounced around the military ranking as I stated. It went from a mid enlisted rank to all of the sudden a officer rank. I'm very interested now to see what the end rank is also.
Should I use my purple turret to upgrade my gold one?
@@evolt666 absolutely
I have a lot of diamonds, and I'm saving for the titan event. Are they returning the titan event?
@@nicabalos8193 every month they run the same events.
I'm assuming you know this, but just in case, you know you get diamonds for clicking on each link within the community tab, right?
I only bring it up because the community button on your screen shows as unread, which means you may have more diamonds to earn in that tab.
Thanks for all that you do to help enrich the community.
@@Method24X well the community tab takes you to discord and Wing fighters social medias... So I'm not sure how that would work
@WingFighterTalk I understand that. However, after returning to the game from clicking on those links in game, I got 100 diamonds per social media site visted.
@WingFighterTalk I got the 100 diamonds when I returned to the game after clicking the social media site for the first time from the community tab.
Thanks again for all you do to give us tips and tricks and experiment with what works and doesn't.
@@Method24X I did that about two years ago. You will get extra diamonds one time for signing up with the community.
don't be afraid to try something new!!!
@@linalan1024 💯💪💯
hello, how you got energy cap at 70 points?
@@Dailyvlog006 by getting both the regular privilege and the super privilege card combo.
I had no problem get the red pieces only played once then only sweep. You must be the most unlucky guy on WF 😏
@@Modio81 I can honestly say, that is true. But, there were many, many players that could not even get gold pieces for a few weeks. I have done nothing but red level sweeps and you can see, I still don't have them as many other players still have none. Not sure if Wing Fighter is broken. Lol
What’s up buddy
@@jorrison281 hey Chuck!
I got all red turrets in like a week from sweeping. Definitely all luck.