The Collapse of Star Wars, Star Trek & Doctor Who - And the Entitlement of the Media Complex
Вставка
- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- #StarWars #StarTrek #DoctorWho
In the last few years, we have witnessed the implosion of some previously very popular entertainment franchises, franchises that go back decades, and have become institutions in their own right. Institutions like Star Trek. Star Wars. And Doctor Who, the most recent to implode.
On February 14th, the BBC, home of Doctor who, put out an article which pointed out the rising influence of fans, all while bemoaning what they call “fan entitlement”. But after fans really the entitled ones?
In the aftermath of the destruction of Doctor Who, @AndreEinherjar will go through this article, and give his response to the accusation that fans somehow are the entitled ones.
Special thanks to @Deviant_Porg for French Subtitles!
Buy our Merch:
mixedtees.com/...
Please share, like, subscribe, and follow us on…
Facebook: Facebook.com/Groups/MidnightsEdge
Twitter: @Midnights_Edge
And support us here for cool extra features:
www.subscribes...
/ midnightsedge
We also welcome one-time Paypal donations at:
contact@midnightsedge.me
Send us stuff!
MIDNIGHT'S EDGE
(C/O Tom Connors)
PO Box 325
Hillsboro, WI 54634
Music:
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
creativecommons...
FAIR USE NOTICE. Midnight’s Edge videos might contain copyrighted material, the use of which may not al-ways be specifically authorized by the copyright owner. In such cases, the material is displayed for commen-tary and educational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this video for purposes of your own, you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
I'm all for creative expression, but there's a difference between being creative and being an entitled asshole who thinks his audience are a bunch of ignorant pigs that need to be educated.
Yup, make a shitty movie and blame the fans, it's a hollyweird trope at this point.
Spot on, my guy🖖🏿 Hollywood thinks we need them to tell us how to be decent people, how to treat one another. They can fuck off! They've put so many false ideas into our minds over decades, and now they want to tell us *we're* the assholes for going along with their evil whims, and further, weaponise our fellow person as their loyal foot soldiers in spreading their disease of feebleness and soft bigotry? I think that's called *gaslighting* at its finest! It's how cults are formed, and how well-meaning people start to do evil, while believing they are on The Right Side Of History.
That's about the best way to put it. There has been a few movies out, that I liked, but they just didn't work for the universe like the Kelvin Timeline Star Trek. They were decent popcorn movies, just not Star Trek movies. If they had been a new IP for space action movies I think they might have been better received.
@Valdet Paumi
That's my problem, as the latest incarnation of Doctor Who seems to scream "propaganda" as we're told how to feel and think... At least that's the impression I've gotten from reviews and assessments as I refuse to watch it. I'm sick of this mediocrity being passed off as "art."
It's also a sign of Chibnall and BBC execs' egos to see their critical audience as "entitled..."
When you are working on an IP not of your creation., you have no artistic freedom. And even then you are not entitled to the automatic acceptance of the audience.
"Its unfair that my Star Trek is judged as a Star Trek and expected to be like one!"
"Then why not just make your own 100% original product?"
"NO! I want the money and built in fanbase of people who will buy into anything with the Star Trek brand name on it!"
A lot of this garbage would do EVEN WORSE if they didn't have the brand names. There would never have been a Disco season 2, nor would there be any defenders or viewers, if it wasn't called Star Trek, but was just some new original series. These people claim to be "artists" but they're just opportunists looking to profit off established brands.
@Trevor Sisson Hollywood has pretty much always been a corporation where we were just lucky when artists got a chance to actually give us any artistic output.
We only think things were ever different before, because we forget all the dreck that came out at the same time those properties were released.
I'm firmly of the mind that these new showd are just some other shitty sci-fi script taken from a copy shop bin recycled but Ctrl+F'd all original names and tech with familiar ones, and with room for asides to berate the Wypipo™ in the audience. That would explain why these property shells stuffed with used tampons seem like something else entirely than the brand it masquerades as.
There's a word for product set in and taking advantage of an existing fan-base while adjusting the characters and settings to investigate differing situations. It's called FANFICTION. And you don't get paid for that.
@@NelsonStJames Except normal corporations care a great deal about protecting the brand. Even AFLAC regulates just how the duck is supposed to look and what it does. Every fast food franchise has to look and taste the same way, they can't have unequal quality. The fact that Hollywood DOESN'T care is a red flag in itself.
Theres always the orville
It’s funny when the fan base gets blamed for the failure of a franchise that even the creators and actors didn’t even like.
chillboy 118 the actors didn’t like the new Star Wars movies either? That’s hilarious!
@@muglymae7408 ua-cam.com/video/Sd9DvIs97G0/v-deo.html
Star Wars failed because it turned to crap. The fans MAKE the franchise. That's just reality. No fans, no franchise.
"Should fans have this power over the product they consume?"
How is that even a question? They're paying their hard worked money for a product, it gives them the right to complain if it is not good.
That's the question of a tyrant, someone that inherently wants to control what is allowed.
These people are legit retarded. Its crazy they have jobs in media
'Richter WLK
' ... Well said! They're gonna have our money if they give us what we want.
What type of products do the fans actually want?
@@evertonporter7887 Walk into any convention, look at the cosplay, the fan fic, the art. Fans constantly tell Hollywood, the whole world, what they want. They wear their fandom on their sleeve. There is no ambiguity as to what fans want. The elites simply refuse to listen.
GI Joe was more diverse with strong women and minorities in the early 1980s and no one complained. Studio Ghibli has more strong women leads than any other studio, yet no one is calling for Miyazaki's head. "Perceived injustice" is so spot on.
"But much like biting into a Big Mac..."
For years now McDonalds (along with every other fast food chain) has overtly encouraged it's customers to order burgers with what the customer specifically want in them. Don't like pickles? Order a Big Mac sans pickles.
Maybe next time the BBC wants to crap on it's customers it can use a better example than an industry that THRIVES on satisfying it's customers wants.
The BBC is funded by a mandatory fee paid by all TV watchers
There's a certain entitlement there when you don't have to worry about competition
There is a big difference between a 4 dollar (or whatever the price is) burger and a movie production of hundreds of millions dollars.
@@Cunnysmythe And the government wants the BBC to become private and have the fee be removed.
@Jeffery Amherst Victim much?
It is funny that I suppose people have forgotten how restaurants have tried this crazy approach of telling customers what they should want and failed miserably too.
Anybody remember Shamrock shakes? I guess some people liked it, but a green milkshake looking like baby diarrhoea is fortunately not on the McDonald's menu any more.
Wendy's current attempt at serving breakfast is another. Check it out if you haven't even heard about it, but this is a huge experiment that is insanely expensive but trying to tell customers what is good for them.
KFC also tried to become a full service restaurant with waiters and bussers. Not really change the menu but change how it was served to justify higher prices.
I could go on, but even big chains in the restaurant industry get it wrong and they are not immune from this kind of thinking.
This channel is criminally underrated. Andre and his staff know their shit and studios would be wise to listen to them.
I couldn't agree with you more. This channel is just way to awesome!
It's a great channel.
Fantastic Channel, love the narrator's voice, great information.
The words, "wise", and, "studios", are mutually exclusive and cannot co-exist in the same sentence.
Indeed. I love that Andre is able to use his day job to help with analysis with behind the scenes stuff. He helps me think critically.
This is the most gentleman rant I've ever seen.
You know you've lost your way when you think you're entitled to people buying your product. Regardless of quality.
Robert Sides facts
Hear hear!
That's corporate fascism for ya. Lots of these companies have become *really* entitled in recent years across the board and it'll only erode further.
@@Denji2006 Vote with your dollar, stop buying their crap.
Very easy to have that mindset when the customers are FORCED to buy that product, in the case of the BBC.
So, let me get this straight (pun intended), BBC and Hollywood. A company sales model is to sale bikinis to Eskimo women, and they post losses for the company. It is the fault of Eskimo entitlement?
🤣🤣 Love that scenario
You know, actually they're model was to sell pretty women in bikinis to men.
Men still buy over 75% of tickets. Women still buy 47% of their own tickets. A decade ago men bought over 80% of tickets. When a straight couple goes on a date, the man still usuallypays for the ticket.
I'm not going to pay money to see a woman in a golden shapeless potato sack. I did, at some level, pay to see that same woman in an extremely skimpy costume waive her barely covered ass around. And there's a group of women who wanted to see the same thing who also don't care for Golden potato sacks.
I'm sure if you visit Nuuk or certain other bigger majority Eskimo settlements, you'll find at least one or two indoor swimming pools.
2016 - 2020 franchise media will be dated by its agenda driven content, like 1920’s movies are dated by blackface.
They might as well had Jake Skywalker soft-shoeing and singing mammy!
Ham Sandwich LOL
If Hollywood is so concerned that they should be taken as art and not as a consumer product, then they should only show their films in art houses and museums, not cineplexes.
Having a female doctor, does not bother me. Having doctor's of various races does not bother me. The character is regularly regenerating into new characters with new appearances and personalities. This is okay. What I dislike is retconning the original doctor and the entire story of the timelords. This is established lore that has been around for a series which is more than 50 years old. In addition people like when the doctor goes on adventures and sees a variety of things. Hitting similar cultural moments again and again defeats the point of being able to travel anywhere. Most of my favorite doctor moments are when there are fun adventures on alien worlds. The past couple of seasons are killing the magic of the exploration.
Star Wars is something similar. Once again i don't mind a female lead. What I don't like is making a character who is "perfect" (though perfect clearly does not include an actual personality). Writers are hired who have no love for the series, but told they have a set number of points they have to hit. There was already decades worth of extended universe material which fans enjoyed. Instead Disney ignored it since they didn't want to pay any rights to authors.
Not a fan of Star Trek, but my wife is (plus she is a bigger fan of Dr Who and Star Wars then I am) and the amount of complaining I hear from her about the stories in the more recent Star Trek series is endless. For her almost all of her fandoms are just being destroyed at the same moment. Her passions are just being ruined all at the same time.
We don't mind people having a discussion of race, values, etc. Honestly it is healthy and needs to happen but it has a time and place. Ruining franchises to have current cultural discussions is wrong. Leave entertainment as entertainment. We watch this stuff to escape.
Sealbinder agreed. but this trend started when Moffat took over - almost everything took place on earth, rather than exploring the universe.
@@mattdelvecchio1537 Curiously enough my favourite Doctor, John Pertwee, was banished to Earth for most of his tenure but, because of interesting storylines and great scripts it never bothered me. These days however.....
@@mattdelvecchio1537 It's cute when fake fans comment on things they hardly watch. It's like you never watched Pertwee's years or RTD's first year. What a poser.
Some SJW loony I worked with suggested that escapism should no longer allow us to escape because we're getting too wrapped up in it. She was apparently trying to suggest that every problem (or at least the ones liberals think are the biggest problems) in the real world should be crammed into our entertainment so that we're _forced_ to deal with them all. Sheesh...
I would suggest your wife take a look at the Big Finish website if she hasn't already. It has hundreds upon hundreds of hours of good pre-SJW Doctor Who audio dramas, and sometimes there are sales. Some of the new productions _might_ be on the verge of allowing "wokeness" to seep in, but I haven't heard anything too bad yet.
@@mattdelvecchio1537 Moffat had plenty of stories that took place off-planet. The trend really only started to sink in during his era with the last season of Capaldi (Which I still loved). And as Ivor pointed out using the excellent example of the third Doctor (Also my favourite) an earth story didn't mean it had to be crummy. Doctor Who has always had a large number of stories that take place on earth. The problem isn't the location is the crummy scripts written by writers and performed by a lead (Whittaker) who care little to nothing for the show and its legacy
The BBC's handling of the Dr. Who feedback by calling the audience entitled is rich. Tell me more about how the UK citizens should be fleeced so you can make whatever you want?
Hopefully, Boris Johnson will go through putting a stop to funding the BBC with tax payer money. No one should be forced to pay to be propagandized. It's the very definition of a protection/extortion racket.
The statement from Andre’s friend was probably the best description of the woke establishment I’ve heard.
yes; a very good analogy.
No doubt, it was perfect as well as simple. Even SJWs should be able to understand it although it will likely just make them more angry, lol.
I've used that analogy before myself, just not as well articulated.
@@brandongray1059 They never understand, because they never listen. Those that put up their comments or dislikes here have not seen or listened to this. They are uneducated and they will stay that way. Nothing will change it. Just more reason to kick them out and then ignore them.
Media: "hell yeahs it's awesome having the power to make the entertainment industry cower in fear of us at will! Better not piss us off or we'll drag you through the mud!!!!"
Also media: "HEEEEEEEEEEEEY. That's not fair. The fandom should NOT have the power to make the entertainment industry cower in fear. That's toxic. I'ma write an essay about it, call it a story, drag fandoms through the mud, and post it to my news site!!! something needs to be done! They must be stopped!!!1!1! I'ma hit up the mediabros group email and get everyone on board to write their own articles!!!"
I'm all for subverting expectations...
*Their* expectations of getting *our* money.
I'm Liberal and I'm getting tired of the Hollywood agenda
Seriously! people on our side are starting to sound just as bad as the church ladies that wanted to ban all the things I loved as a kid!
Ok… Speaking from the other side and really not meaning this as an insult but… Seriously?! You’ve only JUST NOW noticed how similar your side has become to the soccer moms, church goers and priests of last generation??? How? How on God’s Earth could you not have seen it before now?!
Not surprising - while I'm a moderate, and tend to lean slightly to the right, I don't look at Hollywood as "liberals" - they are more akin to unhinged left wing extremist activists.
@@readsomebooks666 I'll be honest. I only really started noticing after the shitshow that was Ghosbusters 2016.
Hollywood is no longer liberal. It has gone full blown leftist.
“What they need” is code for propaganda
I absolutely love and laugh when multi-millionaires call people who live paycheck to paycheck "privileged".
J. Weatherford EXACTLY! Money-worshipping out-of-touch freaks.
Reminds me of the 'let them eat cake' moment from the French Revolution. We thought we got rid of aristocrats, but they keep popping up.
Twice as funny if you consider that most of the "woke intelligentsia" are rich people and their "activism" is by product of the fact that they have enough time on their hands, instead of, you know, actually working.
I am so glad that the FANS have finally learned how to be customers, and demand customer service. For decades, Hollywood has been taking advantage of the charms of estabilished franchises, to the point that they don't seem to know how to create new IP's. But the future is bright, when they're done ruining the old franchises, creativity and service will be all they have. Fun times ahead.
Only if they're hiring the right people.
They're not. You're getting this crap from Hollywood because the people able to understand both sides of an argument are being blacklisted. They're partisan right now and the only solution is for them to go broke.
@@littlebee7147 They have to become self-suficient then, somewhere else. Already happening. An audience willing to pay for good movies will keep being there.
Like this stupid Uncharted movie starring Tom Holland instead of Nathan Fillion. Hope they lose millions
Not necessarily. They'll just reboot, and reboot, and reboot, and reboot, and reboot...
@@Giantwaspface or worse reboob like Ghostbusters
I remember when "entitled fans" used to be called "customers".
"Diversity!" - Hollywood
"We should have Akira play in "Neo" New York, and turn all the characters black or Latino" - Also Hollywood
That sounds horrifying... And most likely to happen.
Also Hollywood: shrink the black guy on the posters so our movies sell in China.
They're hypocrites.
Don't give them any ideas!
Wow, imagine thinking you know what others need then insulting them when they don't like what you give them...
I'm a Dr.Who fan from the UK. I was born in 1962 and have been have a Dr.Who fan all my life. (Classic series more than 'new who'). I just wanted to say THANK YOU for this. THANK YOU so very much. It is much appreciated.
Politics Then: A take on current events using various sci-fi cultures to make a point. Ex: "Characters solve a conflict between two planets by making them see reason".
Politics Now: "White Male Bad".
Star Trek Then: A take on current events using various sci-fi cultures to make a point. Ex: "Characters solve a conflict between two planets by making them see reason".
Star Trek Now: "White Male Bad. Also, murder everyone."
Pretty much! There's so much bloodshed in Discovery/Picard I think someone honestly got Trek confused with Warhammer 40k.
I would agree that in some ways the “woke politics” of Star Trek Discovery can be divisive to some, but I also think that is more a matter of writing skill, since yes, Star Trek has always been with a few exceptions pretty progressive. Perhaps the difference is that in the past it was also inclusive and nuance in tone, for example the DS9 episode for the first season that dealt with religion vs. science, and the compromises that sometimes have to be made in the name of the greater good - which for Sisko was not pissing off the Bajorians who the Federation needed as allies.
Humanist beliefs stress the potential value and goodness of human beings, emphasize common human needs, and seek solely rational ways of solving human problems. That means “bridge drama” in old Star Trek, with debate between characters about right and wrong. Instead with “Discovery” we get lots of action, violence, and bloodshed because apparently “talk” is boring. Burnham also doesn’t make the hard but right choices concerning life and death. Like leaving Mirror Georgiou to die as she wishes in her own universe, and spacing a rouge crewmember that her captain tells her to sacrifice for the greater good, to prevent the enemy from becoming unstoppable. Yup - what a hero.
When the great female science fiction author Ursula K. Le Guin died, the NY Times obit stated: “The immensely popular author who brought literary depth and a tough-minded feminist sensibility to science fiction and fantasy… Ms. Le Guin embraced the standard themes of her chosen genres: sorcery and dragons, spaceships and planetary conflict. But even when her protagonists are male, they avoid the macho posturing of so many science fiction and fantasy heroes. The conflicts they face are typically rooted in a clash of cultures and resolved more by conciliation and self-sacrifice than by swordplay or space battles.
Yes! That is the ethos of Star Trek, for sure while we get Kirk rolling in the dirt with a Gorn or Klingon, in the end they find common ground and mutual respect. “Yes, we are killers,” Kirk says in ‘A Taste of Armageddon’, “but we have choice, we can choose not to kill today.” While taking life is sometimes unavoidable, in Star Trek it is the last choice. Even in Star Trek III, Kirk gives the Klingon commander a hand to pull him up over the cliff edge, which upon the Klingon's attempt to pull Kirk over too, our hero finally kicks the unrepentant Kruge off the cliff and into the lave flow below. Then after beaming up to the Bird-of-Prey, Kirk threatens to kill the last remaining Klingon if he doesn’t help, and upon the Klingon’s refuse to cooperate, Kirk first tells him that “I’ll kill you later” and then “I lied.”
For being very “woke” Star Trek Discovery is a disaster for women. Yes, lots of evil and loser white males, but the women are basically as incompetent. Burnham is an unprofessional and emotional idiot, despite her Vulcan upbringing. When place in a no-win situation, she freezes up or makes an astoundingly dumb decision, like kidnapping the evil twin of her dead captain. Good Georgiou loses her life and ship, while bad Georgiou loses her entire empire. And some poor female officer is promoted to command, only to lose her ship within a day to a moron who wants to turn tribbles into nuggets. Ironically its Captain Pike who is the “great while male savior”. I mean whose ship would you want to be on? I'm with Pike!
Yes, good people die for reasons that are not their fault and are beyond their control - and we have seen that in Star Trek before - but I would rather have seen a Captain Georgiou and Commander Burnham that beat the odds, that could kick-ass, and yet in the end find a peaceful solution to the problems and antagonists they faced. I also would have love to see these two women - along with Suru - argue, debate, and bicker over right and wrong, just as you have seen in previous Star Trek, from TOS to Enterprise.
I was really excited about having a women led Star Trek - the wise elder jaded captain and naive idealistic young first officer - but that is not what I got, because what I got was not Star Trek. I think the restaurant analogy in this video was correct. With ‘Discovery’ I thought I was going to get a new take on an old dish, but what I got served instead was not recognizable as Star Trek in look, smell, or taste. The custodian argument is also a good one, that for an iconic cultural property like Star Trek you need to move carefully and respectfully, and some writers and directors may or may not be a good fit based on how they view their relationship as a temporary creator with the established canon and fan base.
My other issues with Star Trek Discovery focus on little but meaningful things. Like the writers not knowing what the distance of a light year or 1 AU in the context of the galaxy. For example: If Talos IV is 2 light years from Starbase 12, that means that is basically across the street, since the nearest star to Earth is 4 light years away. And if the Klingon Fleet is 1 AU from Earth, that means that the Klingons are on the front porch, since 1 AU is the distance from Earth to the Sun. That means the Federation is not losing, but has lost. The battleships are in Tokyo Bay. If you are going to use astronomical terms to add realism, then use them right! And why is a Section 31 base being protected by buzz saw blades??? Really? The Reagan Star Wars program had fantastical weapons like “nuclear lances” and “brilliant pebbles” - yet the best the writers of ‘Discovery’ can think up is a Looney Tunes gimmick. TOS gave us the Tholian Web, and Discovery gives us flying zero-gee buzz saws.
Take out the “wokeness” and ‘Discovery’ is still largely junk. It had a few good ideas, and a few good moments, but overall, its just not really great sci-fi or entertainment. And that is a shame for the franchise and it's progressive mindset of a better and inclusive future.
what exactly is this "wokeness" you refer to in Discovery? What particular plot points bother you?
@@lincolnkupchak4795 Woke (as used by the collective) generally means tokenism, anti-white, anti-Christian messaging, I've observed. Ironic how society devolved once race grifters started losing money and influence.
My customers are to entitled! They keep telling me what they want to buy!
Yes. Exactly. Your friend hit the nail on the head. I've been saying that for decades now. If you want to put forth your artistic vision then make your own thing don't highjack an established franchise and then change it around to suit your own desires. No one generally wants that and the artist's own vision is stiffled and muted by the work that it's being layered onto. This leads to the wasyed potential of both the established work and the artist's vision. Hollywood doesn't get that. It is a business. It's not condusive to art in its current state of operation which is largely done by commity and influenced by panicked investors.
I love how that pic of the one crazy woman with her bulging eyes will always be shorthand for insane sjw's and their ilk. Not the best way to start a legacy, but exactly what she deserves.
She was actually just straining while on the toilet.
Fan entitlement: give us the product you advertised. Industry entitlement: If we want your opinion we will tell you what your opinion is now shut up and buy the dog food.
I am myself an artist and I thrive on fan approval. Of course I will branch out and try different themes and subject matter. As a creative, it's more or less part of our natures to explore. The key point to remember is that while you should seek out new customer bases, you shouldn't abandon the ones that helped you get there. This is why with every show I do, I create at least a couple pieces in the style of those early times. It's my way of thanking the fans and customers and letting them know I appreciate their support. It also a way to introduce my new customers to my older fans and get a dialog going. You know, develope that culture thing we all parade around yet rarely understand.
They want to presume to know what we “need” and demand we like it no matter what, yet we’re the entitled ones.
Excellent video. I actually had a similar conversation in a bar recently. A friend asked why I was so annoyed over the recent Dr. Who butchering, and I replied along the lines of:
"Imagine you ordered a beer and instead received a £5 glass of water, and when you rightfully complain, the barman calls you entitled and claims he knows better. Not only that, but when you leave, he insults you, calls you every name under the sun, and still expects you to come back in tomorrow evening. That's what a lot of fans have to put up with now., and that's why they're so pissed off."
I agree with everything said here. However, I would also add that its extremely important to be a conscientious consumer as well. I worked at a movie theater for just under 5 years and saw firsthand just how uninformed and generally oblivious consumer the average movie-goer was. Businesses only understand the language of money, the best way to get them to stop producing content that you don't want is to stop giving them your money. I couldn't tell you how many times I would hear people gripe about the lack of creativity in Hollywood as they shuffled their ass into the auditorium showing the latest remake/reboot. Inform yourself on what you are seeing and think if its actually something you want to spend your hard-earned money on, if the answer is "no" or "not really", don't go. Long gone are the days where you can just walk into a theater and just buy a ticket for some random film you know nothing about, you have to vote with your wallet and the only way to do that intelligently is to know what you're consuming.
Amen.
Also, the 1st to be attacked were gamers, i remember how they keep saying gamers were entitled because everyone was pissed when devil may cry was rebooted back in 2009
Why did you have to remind me about Donte? Today was a good day, and you ruined it.
@@VernulaUtUmbra super-uncle DMC5 dante exists, so there is a balm for that.
In the UK we are 'entitled' to get good TV and know that someone will not be allowed to split the fanbase when we are paying tax for the TV - we have no choice but to pay for the TV licence.
The drop in viewing figures shows they do not care about quality but just their own narrow world view that the large majority of people reject.
This might be the most on point commentary on this situation with the current day entertainment industry I've seen; very well done!
The restaurant analogy is a great example of why Brexit was so contentious as welll as any business that fails then blames the customers for not being greatful and bow to the alter of superior, intelligent leadership with ideas and directions not reflected in the wider public.
Brexit works twice. First they were told "We'll join the EU! It will be great for business and therefor be good for the working class!". So they joined the EU, British corps sent their good manufacturing jobs to poor countries like Romania with cheap labor, poor laborers moved to the UK to try to make more money which amplified the problem 100 times. Now leaving the EU is going to do even more massive damage to the UK. They were screwed the moment their corrupt politicians got them to join, now their going to get crushed again. The UK working class is going to get decimated, but on the other hand British corporations have never been richer! People keep framing this is a right/left thing and it's not. ALL OF THIS is about the elites versus the general population, this is the way it's always been.
Well, if you got a great idea, explain it to me. Explain it to everybody. Maybe we will get it and support you. Clever people will never support you if you say "believe me". Those clever brexit managers knew that and therefore they played on fears and emotions and not on rationality.
I could not have said it better myself! Bravo!
THANK YOU! I have now finally subscribed, due to you embedding your friend's spot-on analogy into your already bulls-eye commentary.
Having lurked for a while, this particular video 'triggered' my long overdue subscribing.
Kudos to you and your friend...
Another great video that hits the nail on the head! It will take some time yet all this will pass as it was so eloquently pointed out: entertainment is a business - if you don't give what your customers want, then you'll end up with no customers.
I wonder if we could have that speech about entitlement put into the description box or have a link to it somewhere as we need to boost the signal on it, get it out there so people will finally start to listen.
This makes me think of that episode of Kitchen Nightmares featuring Amy's Baking Company where the food is awful but they owners tell off the customers like it's their fault.
The fans pay the bills, the fans keep these people in jobs, the fans buy the merchandise, the fans say what they like and don't like. If fans were entitled a lot of shows wouldn't be axed.
What I wanted to see with "Rise of Skywalker" was a satisfying conclusion to the Skywalker Saga; I didn't get it. Fans want to be entertained, not lectured. It is not the job of the media elites to tell us what we should believe.
It wasn't even "The Rise of Slywalker"... the entire family line was wiped out.. A more appropriate name would have been "The Triumph of Palpatine" Or even better "Ultimate Evil is Actually Good"... To take a page from "Animal Farm" The 'pigs' started off saying "two legs bad, four legs good" and ultimately changing it, once they had all the "power" and decadency they accused the humans of, into "Four legs good, two legs better"... meanwhile the bleating, mindless, sheep just endlessly repeated whatever they were "told" to say"...
When did it become a thing for a producer of a product to blame the consumer of that product for not liking / buying the product?
What sort of sense does that make?
No, the first fandom to be gaslighted was Stargate's, I still remember the producers blaming the cancellation of Universe on "sabotaging Atlantis fans" who ruined Universe by not liking or watching it.
I tried watching Atlantis but I wasn't a fan of universe mostly just liked SG1
At least Stargate had a good run before Universe emulated BSG in the worst ways.
I was a fan of SG1, really enjoyed Atlas apart from the last episode. I thought Universe deserved another season at least as there were some excellent characters in a reverse BSG or a forced start trek taking them further away from home even if they don't all want it.
@@ashwinarun9817 Really? because apart from a webseries nobody watched no new material has come out of that franchise in almost a decade.
@@Dave-ks9fi Im not commenting on SGU's quality, I didnt like it, lots of people did, thats fine, what Im pointing out is the producer response was basically verbatim to the "woke" narrative producer feed fans these days, like it was an omen of things to come.
Restaurant analogy is apt. At one time,folks would've responded to changes in management/undesirable alterations to the menu by simply dining at different establishments henceforth, ones that were more to their liking. Any and all "furor" would be limited to a few angry letters to the local press...Hell, some may have even embraced this turn of events as an opportunity to expand their horizons, sample cuisines that they'd previously never tasted. Today,
The advent of social media makes it possible for several thousand supposed adults to spend 3/4 of their lives on social media, not simply expressing disappointment, but lamenting "the destruction of their childhood", all because the new(and likely temporary)owners of the neighborhood steakhouse went with a different seasoning, began using margarine rather than butter on that baked potato
On point and well said. A lot of people, us included, are speaking up, and when we feel the pushback get stronger, we know we're getting to the root of the problem. Entertainment shouldn't be a combative experience, it should be entertaining, and that needs to be remembered.
I just wonder how much investor money will be lost before SHTF and studios start closing.
Destruction of Star Wars brand has already caused millions of loses. Now, add to that shit reputation of the most SW video games and you get yourself lost billions.
Thanks KK!
I just made an official complaint to the BBC reference that blasted article. I had to restrain myself from calling the writer exactly what he was as it would have involved lots and lots of what they would have called foul language, and in this country, it can lead to the police coming to your door in response to a complaint. I'm not expecting any positive response from them, having had previous experience of their "we know best" attitude.
This is exactly how I feel but never knew how to put it into words. The restaurant analogy was spot on.
They are pretty much killing there own industry.
Funny thing you brought up the Orville. When I heard the subject for the 2nd episode "About a Girl"; I had my cringe cannon ready with a fresh clip of max cringe and several more boxes at the ready...
The way they handled that subject by the end had a tear in my eye and it became one of my favorite episodes and every time the subject came up later in the season my heart sank a little bit. THAT'S good story telling!
i am so thankful that there are still mild mannered and well-spoken people arguing against the industries lunacity.
i bashed my head against the wall for years and i sadly confess that i tired out and gave up. with the recent upheaval around birds vs sonic, i got interested again and glad to see people like you are still on it. thanks
8:55 "And I guess for Doctor Who"
You guess correctly
Wow very well put together! Liked and shared for the algorithms!
Fan entitlement doesn't exist, or at least not their definition of it.
If I am paying for a product and I am not satisfied with that product, I will be disappointed at best and angry at worst. You don't walk into a store, buy an expensive TV, find out it has a crack on the screen which makes the screen not work, go back and then call the person who bought the TV entitled. End of story.
11:16 - THANK YOU!!!! That's the same example I've been using to explain it to people!
THANK YOU! You hit the nail on the head.
To add to the restaurant eating analogy, as far as Star Trek goes, the audience or the restaurant patrons are in fact the ones demanding the healthiest, highest quality, creative, culinary winners, and to our delight and surprise, master pieces. It is the restaurant owners that are serving slop and demanding that it is the amazing food we love at its core but better, that we should be eating their improved version, and that we should shut the hell up, fork over our money, and fork the plate of garbage into us with smiles.
Only been to the cinema once this year and that was to see Sonic. Nothing else has been released that I fancy. I'm not gonna waste my money to see something I don't want.
Seen "I am Mother"? It's a decent movie
I wouldn't even watch Sonic, TBH. It's not my thing.
I just saw the Invisible Man. I thought it was pretty good. I was actually amazed that they kept the use of CG to a minimum and for the most part, it felt like a classic horror movie with suspense.
@@jon-erich9752 I have heard good things about this film but after been bitten by The Mummy, I was reluctant to see it. If I gett good reports from people I can trust to be unbiased, I might go to see it at the weekend.
@@asianhippy Universal has abandoned the Dark Universe, so this movie has no connections to the Mummy. I'm actually disappointed they couldn't make Dark Universe work. It's probably the closest thing we would have gotten to a live action Castlevania film.
I'm a content creator--I've created lots of content. I try to write as interesting and original stories as I can. I have my personal political beliefs, but I keep them to myself--none of my books have an ounce of real-world politics in them. I write entertaining stories, and that's all. I do not feel it's my job to preach or make people see things my way. I also do not expect to have success just because I've published books. I do not expect people to come rushing to my table waving tons of dollar bills. I know if I want to sell a book, I have to battle, scratch, and claw for them. I have to talk my books up. I have to wheel and deal. I know if I had a bad day and didn't sell anything, it's not the customers' fault, it's mine.
I know it's not on the customer to see the value in my work--It's up to me to sell it to them, to convince them to want to buy. (Selling books and selling used cars have much in common) I also know the day I stop thinking that way--the day I expect customer fealty and demand success "just because" is the day I stop being an artist and become a spoiled, entitled hack.
Precisely, I am amateur writer myself and I will stop respecting myself if I start pandering and changing my stories to the demand of people who have very little insight into creative process.
virtually all stories are inspired by politics
Thing is, for the purposes of telling a story, sometimes it's _necessary_ to have politics in it, depending on the story. And even more importantly, it's possible that the politics of the character go directly against what the author believes. If you're writing a villain, it's obviously not going to agree with your view of how the world should work.
Sanitizing everything the way all these stupid goddamn college children demand would turn out nothing but boring bland beige one-dimensional characters all singing Culturally-Neutral Inoffensive Non-Kumbaya(tm) around a solar-powered carbon-neutral zero-emission artificial campfire.
Heinlein wrote stories deeply immersed in his personal politics. They're good stories, some of them anyway, and you can take or leave the politics. Some of the characters agree with Heinlein's hard-pushed ideas, some of them disagree (and Heinlein goes out of his way to make a case that they're naive, how surprising), but it allows for an intelligent conversation. I don't agree with Heinlein's openly pro-militaristic politics, but I still enjoy Starship Troopers. Go figure, it's not an infectious disease.
When I created a campaign setting for D&D, I had an emperor who kept an orderly and open society, welcoming people to "trouble" him with their problems, but who also gratuitously murdered anyone who forgot to be obsequious. The kind of tyrant I'd die fighting against, but not exactly a villain. I couldn't have made a character with nuance if I'd been forced to bubble-wrap every sharp corner to protect the emotionally incompetent children running around today, he'd have had to have been a happy bubbly friendly person who never raises his voice and everybody likes and also probably female and black and also handi-capable and [check all token boxes here] just to satisfy all these idiotic pricks obsessed with their lack of self-esteem. I didn't create that emperor to push a political message, I didn't create him to get goose-stepping losers to salute me or to piss off children, I created him to be able to tell a story, warts and all.
I guess it all boils down to the painfully goddamn obvious: you can write something you disagree with, and if anyone is so stupid as to think this means you're endorsing that idea, they should be quietly removed from society and put back in kindergarten where they can't hurt themselves or anyone who actually matters until they grow the fuck up or die the fuck off, because the adults are talking and the kiddie table needs to stop being so noisy.
@@EdwardHowton name any popular story and you'll find politics in it
@@savagetv6460 Yeah it's nice that you keep repeating that stupid crap, kid, but I notice you aren't actually naming any examples. Did you learn how to argue your case from Sarah "I read all of the newspapers that's why I can't name any" Palin?
Not that it would matter. One single example would prove you wrong, not that it'd shut your dumb ass up anyways. I've got a trilogy of books about a thief by Brent Weeks, no politics in it, go fuck yourself and stop bothering us, the adults are talking.
"No caviar in our Big Macs. PLEASE" brilliant!
I know it's a cliche, but while watch this all I could think to some it up was...Mic Drop.
Great Job @Midnight's Edge.
RIP Doctor Who: 1963-2017.
1963-1989. New Who was never anything but a con trick. All that's happened is that they've finally dropped the act.
Apparently there's a military saying they need to learn.
You serve at MY leisure.
Ironically, the BBC didn't even care to keep stuff from the Classic Who series. And that's why that era has so many lost episodes.
There is an old saw to "give the reader what they need, not what they want." But essentially it means to not give everyone happy endings and perfect resolutions. To maintain creative tension.
But I do believe they have misinterpreted that a smidge.
Thank you very much Sir I couldn't have said it any better. What puzzles me the most is that Hollywood must know better. Mainstream movies are for the mainstream and not for some elitist arthouse movie lovers. The average person wants to see movies to be distracted from everydays distress. The least thing they want for their hard earned money is to be lectured.
To put it plain and simple give me what I want and I give you my money.
I think a large part of the distinction is that old Doctor Who, Star Trek, and even Star Wars understood the "you could lead a horse to water" principle. There are certainly parts of those franchises that were intended to make the audience think, but it was subtle enough that the audience was still able to think they were coming to their own conclusions. Some of the recent stuff, however, feels like the moral is being beaten over the audience's head with a clue-by-four. A lot of the early episodes of the most recent Doctor Who season, for instance, really felt like they were going "Have you got the message yet? How about now? Here it is again, just to be sure!"
Or, to offer an example just from the new trilogy of Star Wars: some of the background material for the new trilogy, released before TLJ, indicated that the First Order buildup was aided through unscrupulous manufacturers within the New Republic that were willing to sell the First Order ships and other weapons under the table. There's a subtext there - weapons manufacturers can be unscrupulous, not caring if their sales fuel war and genocide or even hoping for such as it leads to more business. The Last Jedi, however, dedicated a good portion of the movie's runtime to taking that subtext and ramming it down the collective throat of the audience.
Haven't been watching Discovery, so I can't comment on that. In the case of Picard - apparently it's supposed to be an analogy to Brexit, and knowing that in advance I can pick out parallels, but that one at least is subtle enough (to me at least) that it doesn't take over. (In fact, if I didn't have that outside knowledge and I had to guess what it was about, I would have picked something else.)
Spot on commentary. Stop turning established franchises into indie films and then getting mad at everyone because it gets the same traction as an indie film.
the problem is that these directors, producers, etc have become more and more stubborn, treating the fans as an afterthought rather than the ones they are supposed to please. They want us to believe if the fans don't like what these people put out than we are the problem instead of them. Their ego's are the problem. They are more and more consumed with "their vision" than pleasing the fans.
Anyone thumbing this down is so convicted and full of themself, they should be beyond ashamed. They get to hide behind a thumb down button while scrolling through comments and rage thumbing them down. Pathetic lot. Amazing video and all facts.
The old Star Trek was also against Metoo Zealotry. or McCarthyism.
There was the Episode were Riker was accused of murder and sexual misconduct ("A matter of Perspective"); and another were Picard defends a man accused of "Romulan Collusion" ("The Drumhead"! Civil liberties mattered in the old Star Trek.
I completely agree with your friend; if any business wants my money they have to provide a product that I'm interested in paying for.
Blockbuster films like the ones made by Marvel are like a restaurant. Cinematic films like the ones made by Martin Scorsese are art. Fans are entitled to absolutely nothing, other than to be told a good, clear story.
They have absolutely no right to critique the direction or content of that story, only it's quality.
Turns out the "entitled" ones weren't the fans. Someone call Shyamalan, because what a twist!
One of the best videos produced regarding the topic. The restaurant analogy is brilliant. Will share the heck out of this. The humanist approach is what made these stories become classics that stand the test of time. By moving away from this, you have stories that stir the current conversation today and then will become forgotten because they are no longer relevant to the current conversation. This is why I feel pretty confident that Lucas’ two trilogies will outlive the sequel trilogy.
This is one of those videos that needs to be Revisited because the Message Needs to be Reiterated Again as the likes of the G4 debacle has happened now a year on and the Message Still Stands.
They removed the style & substance from all of these stories, & replaced it with vapid propaganda & childish yelling.
These are people who have the technical know how to put together a movie, establishing shots, lighting, etc., but they lack an artist's soul.
i love the way you say "temporary custodian"
Very well done. Youve earned my Sub!
Just replace "Fan" with "Customer" and "Fandom" with "Loyal customer base" and this highlights how absurd Hollywood and the media has become. I mean god forbid these customers get what they are asking for!
Spot on brother.
The "friend" quoted starting at 11:15, sounds kinda like Michael Medved. But I'm sure sure, I haven't listened to his show since it went behind a paywall.
Other shows ruined.
Alien
Predator
One they haven't killed? Cobra Kai.
"It’s not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience wants. If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn’t be the audience. They would be the artists. It is the job of artists to give the audience what they need."
-Alan Moore
Kind of missing the point there.
To further the kitchen analogy, when Alan Moore worked on Batman and Swamp Thing, his job was making Bic Macs, and he made Bic Macs that were so good they stood out from all other Bic Macs - but they were still Big Macs.
When he felt like making fine cuisine, he did so in his own restaurant, where fine cuisine was clearly on the menu. Therein lies the difference.
Also, Alan Moore is of a completely level than any Alex Kurtzman or Chibnall or Johnson.
@@MidnightsEdge badum tissss!
Alan Moore is a rape-obsessed wanker. Screw him.
The restaurant analogy is gorgeous
Not being a fan of any of these shows - but simply enjoying them for escapist entertainment - I don't have a problem with any of the change-ups. It is the fan that has the problem of dashed expectations - and that is the money train for these entertainment bigwigs. I mean - people see these shows as kids and grow up collecting "action figures" and boxes of comic books under their beds. Their identity gets entwined in a fantasy life that exists to see the next episode of someone else's life - and it isn't real. Shatner's SNL bit "Get a life" comes to mind. Here is a refresher to the bit: ua-cam.com/video/ZaB_G1WNT70/v-deo.html The format changes seem to be the biggest difference: Older shows would have a beginning - middle - end in one or two episodes - then move to a different topic. These days they will stretch a story arc for an entire season - and that gets boring for me.
Wow! Just wow! This video is, by far, the best take on Hollywood PC culture I've seen in a long time. Bravo!!
The restaurant analogy is the best description I've heard to describe this current problem. I have an anecdote to add to it. I went for a family event to an Italian restaurant. They had sea bass on a bed of broccoli and chilli. So I ordered it. It all came as described. But I really liked the sound of the sea bass. and it was excellent. But the dish was that good because the dressing and flavours made the broccoli the best broccoli I'd ever tried. This analogy has made me realise that subverting expectations isn't about doing a full 180 it should be about taking an element you know about but aren't bothered by and elevating it.
I'm really sick of this current trend in sci fi. These people think they're sci fi nerds and understand what we like. They don't have a clue.
Yes I was disappointed that my favourite character in the original Star Wars extended universe was no longer canon, but you know what I was genuinely excited and looking forward to Disney's Star Wars. The Force Awakens gave me huge A New Hope vibes, but I let it slide because I figured they were just establishing the new trilogy. And then comes The Last Jedi and I will be honest when I say I've never sat in the theatre and gotten more and more furious at a movie. I don't care that Rose Tico was a new character introduced, I care that in the casino scene she spent the entire time talking about child slavery, implying she was a child slave only to free the animals cause "awwww they're so cute" instead of those child slaves. I care that all of that character development between Rey and Kylo was dumped straight down the drain after that final fight in the throne room.
My issues with the new Star Wars trilogy have nothing to do with representation or anything else in that area, but in the fact that Rey isn't someone I'd look up to as a women, but someone I'd avoid because she reminds me of all the women who have bullied and belittled me throughout my life. I care that the story makes no sense in any way and doesn't even tie into the original trilogies in the series. I care that character development is dumped down the drain to put them back at the beginning of the trilogy at the end. I care that there are so many plot holes in the story that they're now trying to sell me comics and books to fill them in when it shouldn't be that way for a movie trilogy. How does that make me a "toxic fan"? Because I got invested in the story and world of Star Wars and have an issue with the glaring problems of the new trilogy?
I don't think that makes you a "toxic fan" at all.
Here's where I think the disconnect is.....
There absolutely ARE toxic fans out there. Bigoted asshats who were making racist and misogynistic complaints about the movies before the first movie ever hit the theaters. These toxic people are a microscopic section of the fanbase. Unfortunately, in the era of the internet and social media, they have a platform big enough to amplify their voices all the way to the actors and studio execs. These people suck at life in general, and unfortunately you will find their ilk in a tiny faction of just about everything. Trolls and morons exist everywhere, but if you aren't one of them, most of us just shake our heads and carry on and ignore them. Though it's understandable why the targets of such vile comments (the actors) are less able to just ignore them.
So Star Wars sequels come out and....they suck.....for many of the reasons you quite accurately described, and then some. But rather than accept and face those criticisms head on, JJ/RJ/KK and others at the top try to dismiss the complaints as just being from those bigoted fans. Which is totally wrong. I mean, yes, those bigoted toxic fans absolutely do exist (as I noted above), but the overwhelmingly critical response to these sequel movies runs far deeper than that. They are clearly just trying to cover their asses by deflecting and dismissing criticism. Which sucks, but I also get it. It is human nature to deflect/dismiss unpleasant criticisms
Which then brings us to the "backlash" by fans who, I think, have WAY over-internalized this. Rather than just acknowledging the obvious that some of those toxic cretins do exist, that such criticisms do not apply to us personally, and then carrying on confidently stating our honest and valid complaints about the movies as you did......too many folks seem to want to identify with and hold water for the cretins. And I don't get it.
It's not an either/or thing here. If someone is not a "toxic fan," then don't worry about being called a toxic fan. You're not. There are toxic fans AND the movies are terribly written. Both things can be true. One doesn't have to identify with the former to point out the latter. And yet, a bunch of people seem hellbent on identifying with the former.
I think the video game industry calls that "DLC Marketing" and has sadly been getting away with it.
I should point out that there is a statement in this article that describes the 'digital news media' as being 'regularly complicit in amplifying toxic sub-communities in search of traffic'. Technically, they don't leave the media entirely blameless.
I think you got the timeline pretty wrong. The date of death of Doctor Who for me and many others is the airing of 'The Empress of Mars' in 2017 (the same year as TLJ) but had been on the same downward spiral that the entire BBC had been on for a decade or so. The Writer Mark Gatiss (who you'll recognize as Mycroft Homes from Sherlock) had deep misgivings about casting a black actor as a Victorian soldier but was more-or-less overruled from on high.
www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/06/11/exclusive-doctor-writer-protested-against-problematic-casting/
It was the same season where they'd replaced the pretty white girl with the black lesbian and the idea the next doctor would be "diverse" was established. Also that year was the height of the "Idris Elba must be cast as everything or it's racist" plague of professional blogger opinion pieces.
Also I don't think the "pop-culture may have been political but it was never partisan" thing is true. Firstly I think the "star trek was always woke" thing is more true than you give it credit for, but more importantly the change coming about is due to a failure in the basic social contract in which a handful of mostly Jewish, most left-wing, mostly from-New-York-or-LA corporate executives were allowed to take control of pop culture in the first place. The deal can be most succinctly stated as "you, who are not us, may have control of our culture, provided it remains now and always OUR culture and never becomes YOUR culture."
Thus the money flowed while the content remained generally focused on the cultural needs of middle America - white, protestant, ordinary, generally conservative (in the sense of opposed to change rather than the poorly defined political classification in current usage) introspective but not self-loathing. And since this can be generally said of the middle class across Western Europe and the English speaking world, Hollywood had a more or less universal appeal at least to all the people who could afford to buy what it was selling.
What's changed can be attributed to two things, the first is that Middle America has become increasingly reactionary (wanting things to change back rather than remain as they are) but more importantly Hollywood no longer sees itself as the servant to, but rather the master of, Middle American culture. So a lot of this can really be traced back to the likes of Adam Sandler and Seth Rogan or even Mel Brookes, who began to make Jewish movies instead of old standard, John Hughes style, red-text-white-background movies, of which American Pie is probably the clearest example. Despite the fact American Pie had an almost entirely Jewish cast and crew, all of it's themes and subtexts were Middle American.
Beginning with You Don't Mess With Zohan and Superbad the Jewishness of the characters Hollywood started to produce became defining features of those characters. Jonah Hill and Michael Cera in Superbad were very much playing young Jews in Protestant America, rather than Jason Biggs in American Pie, or Mathew Broderick in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, playing ordinary Americans engaging in their own culture. I know Jews get uncomfortable when you talk about them, so just to reiterate here, these are all Jews, the good and the bad, so I'm not blaming Jews as a whole or implying any sort of conspiracy, I'm merely pointing out the first examples of this breach in the social contract between Hollywood and Middle America happened 10-15 years ago and seemed relatively innocuous at the time.
But it's like a crack in a car windshield, the smallest chip eventually shatters the whole thing. And what we've seen over the last 4 or 5 years is the cracks caused by those original chips grow to the point they can no longer be ignored. Properties like Disney Star Wars, Ghostbusters, New Star Trek, are no longer Middle American introspection, but rather an attack from a hostile other. The purely human reaction to that is to either run away or circle the wagons and dig in, thus the "toxic fanbase" and the lack of a replacement class of audience.
Hollywood has increasingly sought international audiences to supplement declining domestic revenues but two things can be immediately said about that. The first is that on the path of social progressivism, or "current-yearism" California is on the extreme bleeding edge compared to the rest of the world, the rest of the world is not thinking when, but if, the diversity utopia will actually happen, or if the whole thing will be proven a catastrophically failed experiment, and that is not a question Hollywood is asking. The second and more important thing is that American self-loathing is not NEARLY as entertaining to the rest of the world as American introspection, and introspection and woke-culture are like oil and water.
But while the nuance of when, how and why the social contract was broken is interesting, it is ultimately irrelevant. Contracts are not things you can jump in and out of as it pleases you, they're much easier to break than they are to fix, and social contracts even more so. Hollywood needs to find a new way to connect with Middle America in a non-hostile way. And to do that it needs to remember it's place as servant to, not master of, Middle American culture. If that happens the money will flow again in a torrent like never before. If it doesn't all of Hollywood will collapse once it's financial foundation is no longer sufficient to support it's well fed bulk. The proverbial shattering of the windscreen.
That's my take anyway, like or comment if you read it.
If you post a comment before the video begins does that make you negative first?
Hollywood. Is getting GREEDY . LISTEN TO THE FANS BEFORE IT'S. FAR TOO LATE !
Nailed the comparison to a restaurant!
One thing about the remarks starting at 11:20. It isn't just the entertainment industry doing this. You see this behavior also in more monopolistic/oligarchic industries. Example: just look at approval ratings of cellphone and cable companies, they don't care because they don't have to, or WalMart, they don't care because their employees are not paid enough to care.
Very clear words. Thank you.