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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Things don't go as planned today as we get started splitting all of the rounds that are staged in the yard. I'm hopeful that this will come to a happy ending but time will tell. Check out today's events and let me know your thoughts...
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Nice splitter
Hi Brad. Nice looking firewood. Hope that your issue is fixed quickly.
Perhaps take a grinder to those wings and blade wedge and sharpen them up. It will make for better and cleaner splits.....
They welded the new one up upside down 😅😅😅
It's too bad you don't have a local welder guy to take care of stuff like that. I'd have just built up the old wedge with weld and ground it back in. The weld will be harder than the base metal so it would hold an edge better anyway.
Might be easiest (fastest) to weld an extension to the to the new wedge by a Certified welder. I love that bundle machine, and could watch that for hours!
Looking good Brad, safe Splitting to ya 🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
hi there good show john
Hey man we have a ram splitter too and you can't believe the size rounds of maple it was put thru!
Looks like the guy welding g up the new wedge had a malfunction with his tape measure! Hopefully they can get it resolved quickly.Take care
Can you find someone to move the wings on the new wedge? That would save you supply chain headaches? Maybe a trade school with welding curriculum would do it for free as part of a class?
Ahh gees, sorry to see that the wedge didn’t work out this day, hopefully you heard back from Ram soon on this one! Andrew from NB :)
That first wedge is not done, it just needs to be persuaded back into shape and maybe a few weld passes then a grinder across it. Looks like it cought an old deer stand climber peg that grew over .
Bummer on the new wedge! Hopefully Ram splitter will get it solved for ya. Maybe a little quicker than it took to get in the first place. 👍🏻👍🏻🦅🥃🇺🇸
Yes hopefully
Weld a peace on bottom of new wedge
Brad, The grind angle on the original wings is too steep...causing the edge to be knife like...which works great for chopping a steak but not splitting wood...Grind the wave out and the wing will be stronger and still sharp enough to "split"...Do both sides to match.....slowly so you don't lose the Hardness.... The new wedge had the wings welded in the wrong place....Sad....
Looks like they got the top and bottom spacing dimensions mixed up. That would be my first guess. Either that, or like you said, they have changed the design.
Weld a piece of square bar or even tube to the bottom of it? ;) should I bring the welder 😉
Lol yes if that was my only option. I just have a hard time fixing something that I bought brand mew…
@@FirewoodattheFurnace i am with you on that brother
I'm not worried they will take care of you, Brad.. like you said, just a little delay..
I still haven't received my outflow work table so I hope you have better luck with John than I did
It is a struggle…
It is a struggle…
I have access to about any firewood I want. I have 45 acres of woods. Locust is my favorite all around firewood for my indoor furnace. Last spring, we had an ice storm, and I have 26 pignut hickory uprooted. Most are over 24 in. at the base. I will have enough hickory for the next few years. Unfortunately, I am 70 and had a horrible accident this year and broke 5 vertebrae in my spine. I am able to walk, but it will be some time before I can use a saw or lift.
Sorry to hear that James. I hope your healing up quickly!
Better just get an Eastonmade on order. 😉
Amen
Just a thought; I think there are two problems going on here. I think you have the wedge in upside down and I think the fabricator welded the wings of the wedge on upside down also. I think the beveled corner should be at the top so the wedge lifting arm would push on the squared end. This looks like it would put the wings in the right place or height but the beveled edge of the wings would force the split downward perhaps causing a bind.
The beveled edges are the same direction on the old wing. The bottom is not beveled for splitting so you would be pushing the wood into the square edge. It’s welded directly in the center so it’s the same distance each way
@@FirewoodattheFurnace yep, my bad! I see it now. Had to go back and watch when you first brought it out. Looked deceiving when they were side by side later in the video. Clearly wrong dimensions. Bummer.
Brad, just weld another piece under the wedge to make up the difference, every thing will be fine.😀
Well get a hand grinder and sharpen it up just like you do a lawn mower blade.
The 4 way sits back a little from the main wedge. If I remove material by sharpening I’m concerned that the ram won’t complete the split on the horizontal edge
Brad, I am very impressed with how organized your wood yard is!
Thanks
I just got a new RamSplitter, because of watching you use yours. Overall it's great, but My wedge wings started deflecting almost immediately. Seems anything knotty will bend them up. I've been tapping them back to near straight with a hammer any time it happens (4 times so far). I think whatever metal they're using isn't designed to be put under the stresses it's put under. I may have my welder friend try some of the suggestions already offered up.
Seems like many are having the same problem. Let me know how it works out for you. This is not isolated so I would think Ramsplitter should make it right
You could weld a block of steel to the base of the new wedge and grind weld to make flat surface.
I agree, even though when we buy something new, we expect it to work, and do so correctly,
Hey Brad, I have a good video idea that many viewers might find helpful. If you can, could you make a video talking about identifying different types of trees and what they are best used for such as kindling, bonfire, or heating? This would make an interesting and informative video. Great content dude.
Thanks! Appreciate the support and I’ll throw that in soon
Brad, find a local welding shop and have them resurface the wing edges and re grind them. Should be a lot cheaper. Send the new one back. Not worth welding blocks to lower arm. Rebuild the one you have.
The problem with that is the left side is too far damaged and will not last long after it is sharpened.. more heat will make it softer...
Also the 4 way edge is already set back from the main wedge so grinding material away will probably cause the ram to not complete the split on the horizontal edge
No, add new steel to the damaged edge, re sharpen. 2 pieces of plates. Not a big deal!
how about welding a two inch piece of metal at the bottom of the wedge to give it the proper height. Just a thought.
Hey Brad well the easy and quick solution you were on the right idea when you said about adding a block to the lever but I agree that's the wrong side but the easy thing to do would be to weld the block to the bottom of the new four-way wedge and that way there's as much down in that sleeve so that the four way wedge won't pop out when you have it all the way up and it will move up when you want it up so instead of welding it to your lever on your cylinder you should roll the spacer block to the bottom of the new wedge in the designs of the machines they probably changed that up over the years and just sent you what they produce now I don't know be interesting to follow up and see if that was the case
I am one of the guys looking hard at the Ram Splitter. I will be watching this closely.
Between Ram Splitter not being consistent on where they place the valves, delays in shipping parts and now this issue… my confidence is waning.
But I’ll watch to see how this is handled before making a decision.
Hey man if you wanted to extend the bottom of the wedge or something let me know.
Can you flip the 4 way? Would that work? Seems like the other end doesn't have that 45 degree cut like your old one. The only difference would be is the side cutting edges will be facing down.
The bottom is not beveled for splitting
Your wedge is the first one I’ve seen someone have to replace
The old wedge was like, “haha, look who came crawling back!!”🤣
Morning Brad , hope you get the wedge replaced . I really like the bundler .
Hey brad,If I were closer to you I would air arc the 4 way wings off and set them where they belong and reweld but such is life,anyhow the damage on that wing tells me they are not using anything very hard for their wedges or wings as anything harder then say 1045 and up would be missing chunks instead of being bent all to hell..as for getting steel in,there is more of a delay as far as getting in a timely fashion because some of the suppliers are on a as needed basis because of price right now and not stocking the yards as usual but within 5 to 7 days we are still able to get pretty much anything we need as far as harder alloys such as AR 400 and 450 which is what I tend to like for my wedges,prices are up x 3 but still readily available.
Hey Brad get a welder to hard surface the wedge it will last a lot longer, I would do it with the new wedge as well. We do it with packers in the construction trade and the difference is amazing. Cheers
Looks like a wedge for a different model
Hey Brad,,, received my ram splitter in August with a 4 and 6 way wedge a the edges on both of them got narfed up within a couple days!
Wow really!?!? Are they fixing it?
@@FirewoodattheFurnace I didn’t call them, just took the grinder to them, if they get bad enough I will hav a local machine shop make me new ones
@@jbking6376 I would call them and let them know. That shouldn't happen
@@FirewoodattheFurnace I’ll call Monday and I’ll let you know what they say
Annoying, would have to weld a spacer to get the bottom touching the lever again...
Weld it on the wedge.
Hey Brad new subscriber ,tried the hay elevator thing and it was a bust going to fabricate it to handle wood better slats for hay won't take the beating
Hello Russell and welcome! Thanks for the feedback and for watching
20 minute job to straighten out the bent wing edge and resharpen to a less acute angle, should be fine. Send the new one back.
I’m concerned if I grind material away that the ram won’t complete the split because it already sits back a little from the main wedge
Brad, perhaps you could take your old wedge to a welder, who would "layer on" some extra metal only on the thin side, to make both sides equal again? I am not sure if the old wedge is tempered, but it would last for a while?
This sounds crazy, looks like if you turn that the wedge 180 may work. However, the part of left arm hits to push it up will be off because of the grove not cut into it.
Hope you get the wedge issue figured out Brad!👍👍
They made the wedge an inch wider so they could cut them off and re-weld them higher, at no cost, thus proving their customer service. Wanna Bet?
It's unfortunate that it took so long to get the wrong wedge. Also, I would just grind the old wedge down.
Your inventory of rounds that need to be split looks really nice. Been a while since I used the Ultra’s 4-way
Thanks Joe
scrap yard and a welder - rattle can and send it
After watching your videos, I think ill pass on these units that 4 way wedge system seems like an afterthought.
I like wolf ridges/easton mades design better. It seems im better off buying a rugged made and modyfying it to have an auto cycle valve and an adjustable 4 way.
So what was the end result of the supplier on the 4way did they remedy the issue ?? Love to hear the end result
Still waiting. Check out the update video that was after this one
NEW DAY, NEW PART, SAME PROBLEM... - #113
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Just get your angle grinder out and clean up edge on old one. It is a log splitter not a very precision cutting machine.
That's to bad about the wedge. I bought a slip on 4way for my older (speeco) CL 25T and one of the wings did that, quite quickly I might add. It was next to impossible to find one for that particular older model, so I hammered and filed it, which gave it more life. I read an earlier comment here about taking to a local welder, not a bad idea for me to look into as I don't have a welder....might be a reason for me to get a welder lol. It's good that you're being understanding about the whole situation, not everyone would be after waiting so long just to receive a non comparable OEM part.
Keep it up Brad 👍
Ok i may just be seeing things but were you putting the splitting wedge in upside-down? It looked like you had it flipped.
No it was correct. Wrong dimensions entirely. They eventually got it right
@@FirewoodattheFurnace ah ok like I said wasn't sure if I was seeing things. Glad you got things solved.
Sorry about the wing issue Brad. I know it’s frustrating especially when you had to wait a couple months. A local welder could add some more plate to the bottom of the new one. Or get a refund and get a welder to add more material to your old wing to make the horizontal part thicker.
It’s truly frustrating when you wait an unreasonable length of time for a part and then you receive the wrong thing 😡… been there. Worse case take the new wedge to a good welding shop and have them move the side wings up to match the old one.
Good as always Brad.......keep up the good work :)
I suspect if you weld on a piece to the bottom of the wedge to make up the difference it would work fine. You'd get the extra benefit of a having a taller 4 way wedge to help with the larger rounds. Disappointing that the company didn't send you the correct part.
Yup
I think they will make it right. The only problem is how long will it take. Good luck with it and I hope they get you the correct part fast.
Brad, my first thought was the guy had the wrong distance in the wedge. It looks like the top of the wedge wings to the top of the verical single wedge should be the distance underneath. If i was in a pinch and they didnt have a new wedge ready, is to go to a local welding shop. Grid off the wings and move them up to the distance where your old one is at. Then, weld up that up. Other option is to take the old one in and resurface the wings and then shape the wings accordingly.
It stinks that it happened to you when you need it the most, however, i do hope they make it right. Otherwise Ram splitter may lose business. Great job on the locust and bundling.
Purchase top notch steel and build one yourself or have someone local build it!
I'm sure that wedge wasn't cheap they should stand behind the problem and fix it fast otherwise I would send it back for a refund and repair the old one .Good Luck
I would not try to modify the wedge they sent. It's clearly wrong. You paid for a new correct part. Their problem should not be on you to fix.
Agreed!
Just shim it by welding some stock at the bottom to make up the difference. It’s not load bearing so no big deal.
Bring it to a welding shop and extend the new wedge with a peice of the old one...
Could do that but I should t have to pay to fix something that I already paid for
@@FirewoodattheFurnace yeah I agree...
I had the same issue when I bought a 2way/single wedge from Timber Wolf, ordered it and it took about 6-8 weeks and they said it was due to steel shortages, but I finally got it. Hopefully yours will get figured out. Nice video!!
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Hello Don. Welcome to the channel! Hoping those are 4 good ones? 😄
I would cut the wings off your old one and you will have a single way for the knotty stuff
The adjustable wedge allows you to drop it down and have a single wedge without changing it
Could have maybe flip the 4 way wedge over try it that way. Just an idea. Have a great day be safe
The wing is welded directly in the center of the main wedge and the bottom is not beveled for splitting
Just need to extend the new wedge on the bottom to be even length with the old wedge. Problem solved.
True but the wedge wasn’t cheap and I’m not a welder so I would have to pay someone to fix a problem that’s not mine. Hopefully they will make it right
I was afraid when Ram always called it a wing, that they were going send a side wedge to weld to your main wedge. Glad you got a whole new 4 way to bad it didnt work for ya. Im sure they will take care of you. Take care!
Can you try putting the 4way in upside down?
No because the bottom side is not beveled for splitting
Hey Brad, this is a great opportunity for Ram Splitter to step up and show us, your audience of 6k and growing how good their customer service is. Hoping they do you right.
I agree!
Me too
I’m sure that they will make things right brad because you showed them on your you tube channel have a great night
I'm sure they won't be a problem with getting a new one. You might have to give them the measurements of the old one.
Can you just turn the new wedge over and put the "top" on the bottom?
No the wings are welded directly in the middle and the bottom is not beveled for splitting
Flip the new wedge over and see how it lines up with old one. To me it looks like they welding the wings on with the edge not in the typical direction.. for giggles put the wedge in upsidedown and see how it works.
Same issue plus the bottom is not beveled for splitting
@@FirewoodattheFurnace iv seen the bevel both ways it will still split. But my opinion it should be double beveled anyway. I was just curious if it lined up with the old one if you stood them side by side and flipped the the new one because to me it looked like the fitter got the orientation wrong before welding
@@jimmieburleigh9549 no I mean the bottom of the main wedge is not milled at all so if I flipped it, there would be a square edge not beveled
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Happens all the time. Order a part, need it now, shows up and it isn't right.
If heat treatment was done right the metal on the wedge would not of warped. Now after a certain point it would fail by cracking and snapping off.
Yes, tool steel is an issue still. Diesel is going to be the next problem.
Keep the videos coming, always look forward to seeing what is next.
Try getting parts for farm equipment, especially something over 10yrs old. Out of curiosity, stand the new one upsidedown next to the old one. Be willing to bet the welder may have measured from the wrong end.
It’s directly in the center
Did they change design on their splitter?? I had that problem with County Line where they changed wedge dimensions. Hopefully they will get it repaired for you. Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Just quick thought and question… could you invert the new wedge into the ram splitter and have it function correctly? This may be a design for multiple machines fitted is a newer model, and another way is for an older one!
I was just going to say the same thing.
I had the same thought, the only issue that is possible is the angle them would “push” the split down instead of up. Worth a shot to see if it might work though.
Problem is it’s welded directly in the center so same problem. Plus bottom is not beveled for splitting
@@FirewoodattheFurnace got you on that, I thought that one end was taller
Hell just grind the old one.
I don’t think removing material will work. The horizontal section already sits back off the main wedge so I think it wouldn’t split it completely
Almost looks like the original wedge was cut off and raised by the previous home owner
Goes back to the old saying that if you never use something it will never break. Yall work hard so it will happen again, but good luck and I hope you get back to splittin soon.
Another idea. Have them regrind the wings back to good steel and get rid of the deformed edge w/o welding. Plenty of metal to work with.
Yes but the deformed part of the wedge already sits back from the main wedge so grinding material away would cause a problem with the ram not completing the split on that edge
@@FirewoodattheFurnace then grind a little off the leading edge or the primary wedge to match better, then all you do is pop on another round to complete the split, then it would be more like a wood processor wedge, not really what you want, but it would work, the primary wedge and secondary wings are almost never the same, unless you have a very powerful engine, that way it splits the primary then the secondary wings require less power.
After watching for a bit, Ram should be embarrassed.
What about a bolt on spacer to the lifting mechanism?
I think it would push the wedge to high in the beam and cause it to pop out while splitting
@@FirewoodattheFurnace i guess you could go the other direction and weld a spacer to the wedge. With the gusset support behind the wedge i think that should help with any torquing. It’s a shame you would have to that but its hard times for everyone getting what they need. Maybe make full blown linkage.
Brad, I know how you feel… buying new stuff and it comes in wrong. Hopefully that company will send you a new one and take care of it.
I wonder if they sent you the wrong wedge, that was for a different model. Frustrating when you have to wait that long to get what you need and it's not the right one. 🤞👍
I would think it is just up side down?
If it was flipped over... Wouldn't the measurement work? It just has the wings welded on upside down or have they decided it splits better with wings the opposite direction?
Hopefully it is a quick and simple fix!👍
No it won’t work upside down because the wing is welded directly in the center so same issue plus the bottom is not beveled for splitting
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Hi Brad , I’m wondering if you could flip the new wedge over , put it in upside down ? I know the angle on the horizontal bar would be at the opposite angle but it may be worth a try , at any rate hope you get it all straightened out . Thanks for another great video.
Bottom of it is not beveled for splitting
good day brad try the new 4v way upside down cheers
The bottom edge is not beveled for splitting and the wing is welded directly in the center so it would be the same issue anyway