To the woman’s question at 8:00. No I am not saying that Israel has no right to defend themselves, I am saying Israel has no right to commit war crimes.
Israel is not defending itself. The Palestinian nians are trying to defend themselves, Hamas, an Israeli initiative aimed at destroying the PLO, wants revenge.
@@jaxonpickett6372 Israel acts in a carte blanche fashion across the board and always have. It is tiresome that they NEVER take any responsibility for their egregious behavior-----NEVER. It is bewildering that the US mainstream media is Israel's lapdog.
@jaxonpickett6372 If you can’t do something without killing civilians, maybe you shouldn’t do it. Or just admit that like Hamas you don’t care about civilians. Moving on.
What gets me is when people say that “Hamas is holding the Palestinians hostage”, but at the same time saying “the Palestinians should’ve stopped Hamas”. WHAT?!
Israel will take care of Hamas. Then another Hamas by a different name will take over. Why don't you tell us how you want to make peace with Israel. This is so obvious what you are doing. It's baffling you don't think rational people see this.
How about when they say "the Palestinians voted for Hamas, so they deserve to die", don't they realise that Israelis have voted for all the governments that have killed thousands of Palestinians? The rationale could be used to justify the terrorist attacks. I guess racists are just stupid.
I watched an interview with the Israeli president a few years ago. What was clear to me was his absolute disdain for the Palestinian people. It was clear that he does not see them as humans.
@@atauceiseeing the reporting from outside, it's seems with his judicial "reform" push, he is trying to get more and more autocratic control of Israel. It's important to remember their government runs without a constitution
It's just amazing how someone can be so outraged by certain babies being murdered, and completely indifferent about other babies being murdered. My brain needs a vacation.
In the main, Arabs only began calling themselves "Palestinians" in the 1960s for political expediency. United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (Partition Resolution) of 1947 never refers to the Arabs as "Palestinians," but simply as "Arabs." The first time that body calls the Arabs "Palestinians" is 1970 with UNGA Resolution 2628 (November 4, 1970). Before this, the United Nations referred to the Arabs as "inhabitants," "the population," or "the Arab civilian population." Not once did it use the term "Palestinians."
@@cosimodirondo972 "The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." Zuheir Mohsen, PLO officer, 31 March 1977. if you're on the side of the palestinians, you are either Arab or stupid and gullible.
@@cosimodirondo972 So? lets say for the sake of the argument that you are right, what does it change? they where there when British colonizers at the time came and took over the land and they where there when the same British colonizers gave a part of the land to a large Jewish population they wanted to get rid off, as much as the west tries to hide this, the alies themselves disliked Jews just not enough to harm them like the Germans did and so they gave them a few options and the Jews at the time chose the land they are in today.
She had basically shut her brain off the whole time he was talking, the only thing she was trying to do was interrupt him and just say her own talking points, whether they related to what he said or not
That’s what’s happening all over the British press; people speaking in support of Palestinians are all spoken over with no moderation. The news media are allowing another narrative to be shown in name only. Importantly fewer people are buying this, you can’t call people human animals and monsters and bomb civilian areas without raising a few even liberal eyebrows
I've never seen Emma get this emotional... but I totally understand why. She's a deeply compassionate and thoughtful human being. I weep alonside you, Emma.
It took me by surprise, because I think I've become disensitized to this after watching this kind of news (the one TMR are showing, not the TMR type of news, you don't really see that anywhere) for the past few days, but covering it over and over must take a toll.
@King-lt8go Wrong. She'll vote for Biden because the other option is a far right fascist lunatic. She's not a moron. She understands having to choose the lesser of two evils and Biden is astronomically better than another Trump term.
“If you're not careful, the newspapers (media) will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” - Malcolm X
As a lefty from the UK, Owen Jones is an important voice for a lot of us younger adults. Absolute top fella, the energy this man has to try push for a better world for everyone makes me have lots of respect for him
He's an absolute Moron On no planet would he have said a word about Palestinians if he was talking to a Tory Its all part of his'torys ok , labour bad ' narrative He's probably worse than noted idiot ash sakar
He’s very important for all of us, not just the young people. I’m 63 and I love him. I’ve been watching his thread about Palestine for the last three months and it is thoughtful and intelligent. He had interviewed many experts about what is happening in Palestine and I feel very well informed, partly because of this.
Sje is a pretty nasty person, her wing of the Labour party threw an election, so a social democrat, Corbyn wouldn't win an election. I'm Scottish and as an independence supporter, myself and others are aware what the British state can pull of if the status quo is threatened, Corbyn was cast as a communist spy, antisemite and terrorist sympathiser(he was one of the facilitatators of peace in N.Ireland). The attacks were daily and pretty universal in the media and from his fellow Labour party MP's, it is amazing to watch the UK media and political machine work in tandem, been politically on the end of it for most of my lifetime . they have been attempting this with Palestine for years too.
@@bazzaboy1100 I'm Irish but I haven't been watching the RTE news coverage of this. I do know that the Irish people are pretty overwhelmingly on the side of Palestinians and the Israeli Embassy in Dublin (a short walk from where I live) was vandalised over the weekend during a protest outside. There was another larger more organised protest today.
@@ilyafoskin Purely anecdotal but all the folk I know are sympathetic to Palestine and I'm aware that there is strong opposition to the treatment of Palestine by Israel in Ireland, apologies if I was "singing to the choir"
@@GSP-76 they seem to be doing a piss poor job of it... there's 7 million arabs living in the occupied territories. which is ten times more than there was when the modern state of israel was founded in 1948. you don't know history, at all, and are just a sheep. a parrot saying whatever the other loudest idiots say. a lemming who'd run off a cliff to his death if the rest of his little herd did it too. grow a brain. study the situation objectively, and then reach a conclusion based on the evidence available. if you'd done that, you'd know who the good guys are, here.
It's like when cops brutalize unarmed suspects then kill them out of mere perceived threat and then claim "self-defense" later. Gotta wonder who's training these cops to be scared and yet so violent. Who am I kidding, it's IDF.
Exactly! Imagine someone coming to your home and claiming it by saying, “god gave it to them” would you accept it or resist like the Palestinians are doing? The world stands with Palestine 🇵🇸!
Emma and Matt have been doing a great job cutting through the bullshit of the past week. Insight not only filled with compassion but a complete and thorough analysis of everything going on amidst a media space that has been operating somewhere between cowardly and craven.
The answer is No, Israel doesn't have the right to "defend" themselves killing civilians. The idea that if someone wrong you that gives you the right to punish him however you see fit is beyond barbaric. Even Romans had "An eye for an eye" meaning you can only hurt someone to the same extent he hurt you. Completely punishing a population the size of Detroit just for what some criminals did is insanely maniac.
Israel is punishing an enemy state for invading their border and have declared war. The only caveat is that this land isn't an independent country, it's a mass open air prison with inmates of all ages from birth to 100 yrs old. They have been condemned to life imprisonment by virtue of their religious belief...They are governed by savage " prison wardens" with absolutely no restraint or respect for any human life but were also born in the same prison as their prisoners.
When I respond with "I don't believe any country has a right to exist," they don't know what to do with it. Because people have a right to exist, not countries. But asking "I don't know, is genocide required for its continued existence?" is just as effective.
Exactly! Imagine someone coming to your home and claiming it by saying, “god gave it to them” would you accept it or resist like the Palestinians are doing? The world stands with Palestine 🇵🇸!
The top Israeli government officials are calling ALL Palestinian civilians as “human animals” and as they cut water, food, fuel, electricity, etc in their genocide against the people in Palestine 🇵🇸. Shame on those who support the same n@zi tactics used against Jews in Germany. Israel is NOT a “victim” but an apartheid colonial regime occupying Palestine 🇵🇸
@@akumakorgar well a lot of Asia really including the Middle East beyond Israel… also Africa… and North America… oh and Australia… am I missing a continent they committed genocide on? Oh yeah Europe duh… Oh fuck South America too? Damn they genocided everywhere.
Emma’s tears are validating my crippling depression and difficulty to express my true thoughts this past week. Thank you and keep up the good fight you two!
Emma's reaction mirrors how I've been feeling. It feels like intellectual debate is powerless against this racist, hypocritical bloodlust that rationalizes itself through propaganda.
And Hamas's beheading of babies and using fellow Palestinians as human shields is justifiable as "fighting oppression"?? Their WRITTEN CHARTER states their ENTIRE existence is engineered for killing Israelis. Israel is apartheid in some ways for sure, and it's horrible, but they don't openly advocate the murder of innocent civilians. Hamas is not interested in a two-state solution. They are more interested in generating chaos and global martyrdom by provoking an overreaction (like now, perhaps) so they can cast blame on Israel and the West later.
@@ImNotThereYeti The Palestinian people don’t have anything the US wants. The US doesn’t defend democracy or morality like it claims. The US defends its interest. And the US having a white ally in the middle east is worth the world seeing our hypocrisy.
The irony of that MP accusing him of 'ignoring the atrocities of the last week' as she ignores the atrocities of the last 50 years would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
I'm an oldie at 83 and I, like you, I feel very sad about what is going on here. I admire you guys for standing up with the whole truth of the matter. Hamas may be a terrorist organisation, but so is Israel. Lots of innocent people on both sides will die because of the terrorism of BOTH sides. The poltician talks about the past few days, but fails to admit there have been may years of terror on the Palestinian people from Israel. I feel for the innocent people on both sides.
Not “Israel” as a whole, but it’s current government that uses fascist rhetoric to rationalize fascist acts. Netanyahu, Putin, Orban, Trump are state actors whose rhetoric & policies aren’t nearly as different from Hamas’s as they should be. The worst mistake my country made was teaching post WW2 generations, fascism was exclusively European. Now, that we have people convicted of sedition & fascism is creeping back across the West, some of us are finally learning about the “Great Sedition Trial of 1944”, Father Coughlin & Silvershirts. I pray enough of us vote against the party that intends on instituting “Project 2025” & whose “leader” can’t stop praising dictators & terrorists, because he aspires to both!
Let’s not forget that the loudest voices calling for retaliation against Gaza are also promoting antisemitism and racism at home. The irony should not be lost.
Labour were mostly anti zionist and had the anti semetic trope aimed at them which is the response of zionists but now Labours fear of being called anti semetic has pushed them into a zionist stance most of the anti zionists were kicked out of the labour party btw like in the USA both parties are shite just the party on the right is worse
Noam Chomsky, on Palestinian resistance “You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, I am to blame: I shot a rocket back” Noam Chomsky
its a very necessary distinction to make between defending palestine and defending hamas - i dont think rockets are really ever justified as thats just always gonna kill citizens most of the time. legally, if someone literally steals your house you can defend it. obviously
@@akgfilming no you can't defend your home as a Palestinian, cause they roll into your town with tanks and the IDF bulldozing it. They made peaceful resistance completely impossible.
@@akgfilming If the people stealing my house are a well-funded military, with tanks, planes, helicopters, drones etc, and I am unarmed, through what obvious means could I defend my house? You mentioned a legal remedy?
What annoys me the most is that she claims he's "ignoring the last few days"... Lady, aren't you ignoring the last 50+ years? Just another case of the little guy standing up for themselves, only to be punished for it...
Well, If you truthfully want to talk about ignoring the history between these two peoples, let's take it all the way back to the beginning, when this war was started, and talk about the battle of Jericho. Where the Hebrew nation indiscriminately slaughtered pregnant women, new born infants, children, and everyone else, to take this land that didn't belong to them. Remember Jericho was a fully functioning city complete with walls, and a population of people who had done all the work required to turn a barren desert land into farmable land with access to water. The Jewish nation believed it should be theirs because their version of god supposedly told the men in charge it was their "promised land" and instead of just doing the labor required to build their own city, they conquered a city that was already inhabited by other human beings. This entire stupid war is an ongoing claim that the yahweh version of the Abrahamic god supposedly told the Hebrew nation that they should covet the people of Jericho's possessions, murder them, and steal the land and resources they worked to create. So much for those 10 commandments god set in stone for his people to follow, huh? Claims of some god being involved aside, this ongoing war is a perfect real world example of why it's so wrong to covet, murder, and steal.
Thank you, Emma, not least for setting me off again. I've been crying almost non-stop for the last week. Owen is one of only a few voices consistently on the right side of things. Hodge, meanwhile, was on =e of the major bad actors behind the so-called 'Labour anti-Semitism crisis', that saw Corbyn vilified, the left essentially purged from the party, and the largest number of expulsions of Jewish members in history, and it's all because they advocate for ending the occupation in Palestine. The actions of Hamas are despicable, and they deserve to be excoriated, but Hamas couldn't exist without the occupation. The asymmetry is off the scale. Bows and arrows against the lightning, and almost nobody's got the backs of ordinary Palestinians.
She is obviously equivocating and using emotive strawmen to try to shut Owen down and he has the righteous side of this debate in my view. But it is perhaps just worth bearing in mind that the UK has a tiny Jewish population that is very frequently targeted by both white far right and islamic extremists. If it can be said there is a victim mentality in effect that is causing Margaret Hodge to be affronted by default and to colour her opinions, it does have it's roots in genuine cause. Like everything really difficult.
@@Lagrangeifythis is the time where critical thinking is necessary. To fall back on the victim mentality is lazy and useless af. I’m so disgusted by all these so called “leftist” championing genocide . Fucking appalling.
@@Lagrangeify The fact that Jewish minorities anywhere is disproportionately often targets of religious extremism does not grant a Jewish majority to do "a little" genocide cart blanche. It's not self defense to level people's homes.
"I'm concerned about the lives of innocent Israelis because I value human life and world peace. You're concerned about the lives of innocent Palestinians because you have a weird obsession."
Nelson Mandela and ANC freedom fighters were called “terrorist” during the apartheid South African regime by the U.S, Israel, and Britain. The same playbook is being used against Palestinian people.
The ANC did not target women and children to kidnap and cut their heads off...but they fought using whatever means available to them to free all south Africans.
@@lou.yorke.xthey only stopped once the government began serious negotiations to bring about the end of apartheid. And even then, the apartheid government continued to secretly fund third parties (usually the IFP) to commit atrocities in the hopes of destabilising the negotiations
I am an Indigenous (Navajo) of Turtle Island. My ancestors were also ordered to leave our homes and land in the 4 Corners area in the 1860's and marched over 400 miles to a concentration camp in the Texas NM border which was known as the Long Walk. Over 25 percent of them died while on the march and while being held there for over 4 years along with the Mescalero Apache Unlike all the tribal nations we were allowed to return to a small portion of our original lands in 1868 rather than being forced to continue on to Oklahoma. The US figured it would be lest costly to just let the Navajo return to the what they thought was worthless land at the time. So we know what the Palestinian people are going through because we and almost every other Indigenous Tribal Nation have been there. The US wanted us out of the way for their "Manifest Destiny" so that they could take over our land and our resources to become one of the worlds wealthist nations at our expense. Colonization is wrong and people suffer History just keeps repeating itself and granted Hamas did start this latest war the Palestinian children should not have be the main victims of Israel's retailation. Just as they keep saying that Isreal has a right to protect its people and land well that is what our people across the US and Canada did we yet we were branded as savages, barbaric for defending our land and people almost completely being wiped out plus losing 98 percent of our original homeland.
@@blondiegreeneyes4802of course it does. You hear about prison riots because of atrocious conditions. The riots need to be put down. But if you don't improve things, you can't expect no more prison riots.
@@blondiegreeneyes4802 "It doesn't justify it, but it does explain it." "No it does not." Saying that suggests (reveals?) that you either don't *understand* the distinction or... perhaps you're just a three month and twelve day old bot or troll.
Hes an absolute joke in UK. No one takes him serious. If he was in charge of the chicken on a farm this dope would say "tear down fences, we can talk to these foxes"... His wet blanket approach would literally get the ppl around him killed. Absolute dangerous numpty
Emma's tears are a sign of true empathy and compassion for humankind. I wish all the best for her and her career as a political commentator and journalist. The world needs more people like her.
I would title this video, "Leftist RUTHLESSLY TALKED OVER During Media’s Relentless Apartheid Apologia". Owen wasn't able to complete a single thought, so it is a bit far to say he _shredded_ them.
She was triggered by herself having none. She worked so hard to justify her ruthless heartless vile position because she KNOWS she's rooting for atrocities. It's like the pro lifers who want to force underage r@pe victims to give birth to their rapist's hellspawn. They justify it by leaning hard on "saving babies" because they KNOW that if they have to assess the situation realistically, they are sentencing a child to a destroyed body and a ruined mind... She frames it in a way she can live with.. And we see what she's OK with... She's OK with Israel doing what it does, but she knows she's wrong.. So she has to spin. She has to reframe it.
Had this convo with my family yesterday. I was shocked that I was the only one that realized that this didn't just start a few days ago. I think I got through to my mom. She has a good heart she just had been so brainwashed...
Sweet Emma...your compassion for the awfulness happening in Israel and Gaza is so heartfelt. Sometimes I wonder how you can all go on in the face of the atrocities abroad and at home. I send my love and support. I wish with all my heart that this world becomes a better place 💔
Imagine if the US punished Mass Shooters by indiscriminately bombing the neighborhoods in which they resided. Whether their neighbors knew about what was happening or not.
I wake up every single day absolutely enraged. These people are monsters. I can’t believe how actively ignorant they pretend to be and how obviously they attempt to play word games in the face of genocide. In my lifetime, I have not been this disgusted by my government and it’s allies
I despair. I can’t believe this is the world we live in. People are so easily misled by disinformation the mind boggles. I’m a full grown man and I’m tearing up and the anxiety is really bad. These people have the Gaul to quote Christ and hide behind religion. Keep up the good work MR.
Emma is such a beautiful person inside and out. Thank you and the whole Majority Report team for your excellent coverage on this issue. Thank you for your empathy in a time when there is so little.
You people at this channel (especially Emma and the guy whom we cannot see - Matt), since this Gaza Genocide has begun? Have just hit home run after home run on this. Thank you SO much for your coverage. ☮
I think Owen was trying to be tactical by starting out by condemning hamas, so that way he would be able to point at that when the inevitable attack came, and look at how the woman blatantly lied even after he made such an emphatic denunciation at the very beginning of his statement.
I think most democrats, officials and voters, recognize that what the US government did to the indigenous people of America was horrible, beyond reprehensible. Anyone who is able to recognize that should also be able to recognize that what Israel is doing currently is basically the same thing and is also reprehensible.
Of course. But the US has political interest in Israel, so the U.S. leadership can’t be too loud in telling the truth - as it would be very hypocritical
These same people would be equivocating between lynchings of runaway chattel slaves and violent slave uprisings (that include horrific acts) were they alive before the American Civil War.
The Hamas attack is a bit like a bullied kid, having had enough, jumping up and punching his tormentor in the nose. The response by the Israelis is classic bully behavior.
No its not. Hamas are fascist religious nutters who would love to kill all Jews. Thats their official agenda, downplaying it does no good for anyone. Hamas and the current Israeli government are two sides of the same coin and thats about it.
No, this is a typical american "bullied" kid, who does not know what it even means because he's a psycho. Meanwhile the really bullied kids get the bad rep. because this one little brat.
Owen was brilliant. Margaret ignores willfully the way Owen started calling out the terror act. Ignores the points he makes. Ignores the facts raised to tow a party line and the talking points.
Owen Jones is a tireless and articulate advocate for socialism in the UK (and beyond). He's a good writer too - worth keeping an eye on his Guardian columns and UA-cam channel for informed insight into British (or more specifically, English) politics.
@@crazyeight9 America will go sociaIist soon. We've Ied enough chiIdren to the Ieft in the schooIs. We will have them vote for Ieftism and you watch how this repubIic is changed forever. Dæth to capitaIism! HaiI soIidarity! HaiI the Ieft! 🙋♂️
I get so angry at times the line between anti-zionism and anti-semitism starts to get tangled in my own mind. But I always go back to this. 25 years ago when I started to really question what the hell was really going on in Isreal Palestine I found my first answers coming from Israeli and Jewish writers, journalist, scholars and historians. They are the ones that pointed me to Arab, Palestinian and Western scholars, journalists and historians like Edward Said, Robert Fisk etc. With few exceptions (thank god for MR and others like you) western discourse on the subject is always the right wing Israeli government propaganda with a good sprinkling of religious mythology as history. Keep up the good work.
This woman is basically saying that if somebody breaks into your house and hurts you or your family, you should be able to go burn that person’s neighbors’ houses down and then claim self-defense. Like, it’s literally insane.
The UK is rapidly going loopy. It's not quite so bad here in Scotland, but it ain't great. The media has truly lost the plot, as have so many in political parties.
Only because Scotland has just been treated as the last vestige of empire for England and SNP rapidly becoming more pro-business but it’s at the least more wary of the big two down south being the exact same party when it comes to material conditions.
@@MSCCA 100% and the same people that now claim they were actually opposed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will claim that they weren’t pro Israel in 20 years
Owen has the patience of a saint. That woman is unbelievable and utter garbage. Yeah, the problem is indeed that one side of this argument ONLY cares about the suffering of innocents on one side of this conflict. That would be the pro-Israeli state side that shrew belongs to. The pro-Israeli state side refuses to acknowledge the suffering or even humanity of the Palestinians under any circumstances. They regularly dehumanize the Palestinians and constantly call for increasing their suffering. Humanitarians have repeatedly acknowledged the suffering of innocents on both sides and called for an end to all of it. Humanitarians just focus more on Palestinian suffering because their suffering is greater and Israel has the power to end the conflict. Israel is the oppressor and holds all the cards.
That woman’s family is infamous on the level of rockerfella and Rothschild. And she allegedly did some evil, corrupt things whilst in government. Think one of them was covering up child abuse.
Watching the world cheer on the destruction of the Palestinian ppl is beyond disturbing. Because they can transfer this same energy towards any group they want, all they need is a reason.
He is critisized for ignoring the last 3 days, she ignores the last 50+ years.
Exactly!
With that logic Israel gets a pass to kill every single Palestinian . They had 50 years of beef wiping them all out. Makes sense .
70+
Yes, no hesitation there...
Spot on, mate.
To the woman’s question at 8:00. No I am not saying that Israel has no right to defend themselves, I am saying Israel has no right to commit war crimes.
Israel is not defending itself. The Palestinian nians are trying to defend themselves, Hamas, an Israeli initiative aimed at destroying the PLO, wants revenge.
How can they possibly disarm Hamas without attacking Gaza?
@@jaxonpickett6372 Israel acts in a carte blanche fashion across the board and always have. It is tiresome that they NEVER take any responsibility for their egregious behavior-----NEVER.
It is bewildering that the US mainstream media is Israel's lapdog.
@jaxonpickett6372 If you can’t do something without killing civilians, maybe you shouldn’t do it. Or just admit that like Hamas you don’t care about civilians. Moving on.
@@wilcee238 Israel has consistently shown that they don't care about civilians for 50+ years. However, this doesn't count, right 238?
What gets me is when people say that “Hamas is holding the Palestinians hostage”, but at the same time saying “the Palestinians should’ve stopped Hamas”. WHAT?!
Israel will take care of Hamas. Then another Hamas by a different name will take over. Why don't you tell us how you want to make peace with Israel. This is so obvious what you are doing. It's baffling you don't think rational people see this.
When you can claim your enemy is both a victim and perpetrator of all the violence you can justify pretty much any violent act against them.
@derekbrandell8520Whats get me us that people doesnt understand that Hamas single goal is to kill jews.
How about when they say "the Palestinians voted for Hamas, so they deserve to die", don't they realise that Israelis have voted for all the governments that have killed thousands of Palestinians? The rationale could be used to justify the terrorist attacks.
I guess racists are just stupid.
@derekbrandell8520commas exist
Gotta love how she completely ignored his point that over half their population is children. Heartless.
She didn't ignore it, she doesn't care, that's all.
Just like Albright when she was asked about half a million dead children in iraq and her answer was " it was worth it"
These monsters dont have a soul
I watched an interview with the Israeli president a few years ago. What was clear to me was his absolute disdain for the Palestinian people. It was clear that he does not see them as humans.
@@noneya313"I love it when a plan comes together" -Israeli PM Hannibal Smith
As an Israeli citizen, I can tell you that he doesn't see Israelis as human as well...
Israeli Government - the new Nazis.. ironic
@@idogonen3075 Could you talk more about it? What is his end goal besides ending the palestine people and take over their land?
@@atauceiseeing the reporting from outside, it's seems with his judicial "reform" push, he is trying to get more and more autocratic control of Israel. It's important to remember their government runs without a constitution
It's just amazing how someone can be so outraged by certain babies being murdered, and completely indifferent about other babies being murdered. My brain needs a vacation.
Simple, some of the babies look like they could've been their babies, the others don't.
It's already in vacation apparently.
Racism
Labour are just cowards. Owen Jones was great
It’s pretty easy: these babies are imperialist overlords and those babies are the lower caste lesser than animal. Got it?
Emma, thank you for standing up and feeling so deeply for the Palestinian people.
In the main, Arabs only began calling themselves "Palestinians" in the 1960s for political expediency.
United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (Partition Resolution) of 1947 never refers to the Arabs as "Palestinians," but simply as "Arabs."
The first time that body calls the Arabs "Palestinians" is 1970 with UNGA Resolution 2628 (November 4, 1970).
Before this, the United Nations referred to the Arabs as "inhabitants," "the population," or "the Arab civilian population." Not once did it use the term "Palestinians."
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@@cosimodirondo972 Super nerdy comment. ...But how is it relevant... to being FOR or AGAINST killing innocent civilians...?
@@cosimodirondo972 "The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
Zuheir Mohsen, PLO officer, 31 March 1977.
if you're on the side of the palestinians, you are either Arab or stupid and gullible.
@@cosimodirondo972 So? lets say for the sake of the argument that you are right, what does it change? they where there when British colonizers at the time came and took over the land and they where there when the same British colonizers gave a part of the land to a large Jewish population they wanted to get rid off, as much as the west tries to hide this, the alies themselves disliked Jews just not enough to harm them like the Germans did and so they gave them a few options and the Jews at the time chose the land they are in today.
She's talking over him because she doesn't want him to get his message across. It's absolutely disgusting
Right wingers always take that tactic. It's disgusting.
Worse, she's saying Jurgen Stroop of warsaw ghetto fame was justified and probably a pussy.
She had basically shut her brain off the whole time he was talking, the only thing she was trying to do was interrupt him and just say her own talking points, whether they related to what he said or not
It’s funny how they think that actually works…we can all see what’s going on. They really do think we’re all stupid
That’s what’s happening all over the British press; people speaking in support of Palestinians are all spoken over with no moderation. The news media are allowing another narrative to be shown in name only. Importantly fewer people are buying this, you can’t call people human animals and monsters and bomb civilian areas without raising a few even liberal eyebrows
I've never seen Emma get this emotional... but I totally understand why. She's a deeply compassionate and thoughtful human being. I weep alonside you, Emma.
It took me by surprise, because I think I've become disensitized to this after watching this kind of news (the one TMR are showing, not the TMR type of news, you don't really see that anywhere) for the past few days, but covering it over and over must take a toll.
@King-lt8go Wrong. She'll vote for Biden because the other option is a far right fascist lunatic. She's not a moron. She understands having to choose the lesser of two evils and Biden is astronomically better than another Trump term.
@@King-lt8goAnd what good will that do? Help give the gop another foothold in power? This is why democrats keep losing elections.
@@King-lt8go Do you suppose she wants to see the guy who poured gas on that fire back in office?
@@ts109 LMFAO NAME A POSSIBLE OPTION THAT HASN'T POURED GAS ON THIS FIRE LMFAO
Pro-imperialists: “Lets not ignore what happened in the last few days!”
“How about the last few decades?”
Pro-imperialists: “…… we can ignore that.”
“If you're not careful, the newspapers (media) will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”
- Malcolm X
Tell us more about how the Hamas militants were being oppressed by the women they r*ped and the babies they beheaded.
Right on! As accurate as it always was.
Thanks for the entire MR staff for standing for Justice for Palestine and major backbone in this crisis.
I agree. This is the coverage that should be on MSNBC
There's millions of us that know what's going on and what Israel has done to those people. Sickening
That and $5 will get you a cup of Coffee.
For real, I have dropped so many "leftist" news channels because they are trying to equivocate this obvious struggle of good and evil
Indeed. The only flaw is that, sadly, Michael Brooks isn't still around.
It shakes me to my core that anyone can describe what Israel is doing to Palestine right now as "defending themselves".
Part of it is. Shutting off food, water, electricity to two million people, heck no
NRA style self defense
@@nosuchthing8in direct violation of the 1949 Geneva Convention, of which Israel is a signatory. But of course they won't face any consequences
@@SpoopySquidthere never are consequences
you need your core to be shaken if youre so filled with antisemitic hate to believe that
As a lefty from the UK, Owen Jones is an important voice for a lot of us younger adults. Absolute top fella, the energy this man has to try push for a better world for everyone makes me have lots of respect for him
Yeah, he's great.
He's important for us older left wingers in the UK too 😉
He's an absolute Moron
On no planet would he have said a word about Palestinians if he was talking to a Tory
Its all part of his'torys ok , labour bad ' narrative
He's probably worse than noted idiot ash sakar
That was a heroic display of patience on his part, honestly.
He’s very important for all of us, not just the young people. I’m 63 and I love him. I’ve been watching his thread about Palestine for the last three months and it is thoughtful and intelligent. He had interviewed many experts about what is happening in Palestine and I feel very well informed, partly because of this.
Matt is so right in drawing the distinction between 'justifying' and 'explaining' such a key point
That old woman's shit-eating grin when the host cut him off was infuriating
The whole thing is just a debate game to her. All she cares about is winning, not human lives.
@@mycosysliterally sickening, she’s probably a mother and grandmother but cannot empathize with 1 million children being slaughtered.
Sje is a pretty nasty person, her wing of the Labour party threw an election, so a social democrat, Corbyn wouldn't win an election.
I'm Scottish and as an independence supporter, myself and others are aware what the British state can pull of if the status quo is threatened, Corbyn was cast as a communist spy, antisemite and terrorist sympathiser(he was one of the facilitatators of peace in N.Ireland). The attacks were daily and pretty universal in the media and from his fellow Labour party MP's, it is amazing to watch the UK media and political machine work in tandem, been politically on the end of it for most of my lifetime . they have been attempting this with Palestine for years too.
@@bazzaboy1100 I'm Irish but I haven't been watching the RTE news coverage of this. I do know that the Irish people are pretty overwhelmingly on the side of Palestinians and the Israeli Embassy in Dublin (a short walk from where I live) was vandalised over the weekend during a protest outside. There was another larger more organised protest today.
@@ilyafoskin Purely anecdotal but all the folk I know are sympathetic to Palestine and I'm aware that there is strong opposition to the treatment of Palestine by Israel in Ireland, apologies if I was "singing to the choir"
Committing war crimes and engaging in collective punishment is not "defending yourself". To say otherwise is a disgusting attempt to justify genocide.
take a look at the jewish populations in arab countries over the last 80 years and then tell me who's committing genocide... go on. i'll wait.
Israel has been doing it for decades..
@@GSP-76Israel has become what they once ran away from.
@@GSP-76 they seem to be doing a piss poor job of it... there's 7 million arabs living in the occupied territories. which is ten times more than there was when the modern state of israel was founded in 1948.
you don't know history, at all, and are just a sheep. a parrot saying whatever the other loudest idiots say. a lemming who'd run off a cliff to his death if the rest of his little herd did it too.
grow a brain. study the situation objectively, and then reach a conclusion based on the evidence available. if you'd done that, you'd know who the good guys are, here.
It's like when cops brutalize unarmed suspects then kill them out of mere perceived threat and then claim "self-defense" later. Gotta wonder who's training these cops to be scared and yet so violent.
Who am I kidding, it's IDF.
Solidarity, Emma. Keep fighting! What you do matters.
I feel for Emma and everyone on the side of peace, it’s apparently a pretty unpopular opinion
Exactly! Imagine someone coming to your home and claiming it by saying, “god gave it to them” would you accept it or resist like the Palestinians are doing? The world stands with Palestine 🇵🇸!
It certainly does. With Emma always❣
With Emma always❣@@calibrating770
100%
“Are you saying Israel does not have a right to defend itself?” IT’S NOT DEFENDING ITSELF.
Anyone saying that should be asked - Do Palestinians have a right to defend themselves?
Emma and Matt have been doing a great job cutting through the bullshit of the past week. Insight not only filled with compassion but a complete and thorough analysis of everything going on amidst a media space that has been operating somewhere between cowardly and craven.
The answer is No, Israel doesn't have the right to "defend" themselves killing civilians. The idea that if someone wrong you that gives you the right to punish him however you see fit is beyond barbaric. Even Romans had "An eye for an eye" meaning you can only hurt someone to the same extent he hurt you. Completely punishing a population the size of Detroit just for what some criminals did is insanely maniac.
לעזאזל עם המוסד, צה"ל והליכוד.
To hell with Mossad, Likud, IDF. To hell with nationalism, Jewish, white, German, Islamic or otherwise
“Defending myself” by bombing an entire geographical region AFTER attacks have already happened. No not revenge no no no, “self-defense”.
Israel is punishing an enemy state for invading their border and have declared war. The only caveat is that this land isn't an independent country, it's a mass open air prison with inmates of all ages from birth to 100 yrs old. They have been condemned to life imprisonment by virtue of their religious belief...They are governed by savage " prison wardens" with absolutely no restraint or respect for any human life but were also born in the same prison as their prisoners.
@@NotYurAverageJoe is it too soon to say I need an Israeli Palestinian steamed hams?
When I respond with "I don't believe any country has a right to exist," they don't know what to do with it. Because people have a right to exist, not countries. But asking "I don't know, is genocide required for its continued existence?" is just as effective.
The push to dehumanize and exterminate by seemingly rational people is terrifying
Exactly! Imagine someone coming to your home and claiming it by saying, “god gave it to them” would you accept it or resist like the Palestinians are doing? The world stands with Palestine 🇵🇸!
The top Israeli government officials are calling ALL Palestinian civilians as “human animals” and as they cut water, food, fuel, electricity, etc in their genocide against the people in Palestine 🇵🇸. Shame on those who support the same n@zi tactics used against Jews in Germany. Israel is NOT a “victim” but an apartheid colonial regime occupying Palestine 🇵🇸
Zionist can only seem rational but rationalizing genocide is never rational
that's 99% of history, especially the past 500 years. Homo Sapiens suck, especially the religious ones.
@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 'They can just move away.'. My Fox-viewing father a couple of days ago.
“Are you saying they have no right to commit genocide?” Violently British.
Yeah seeing this shit sure helps the history of India make a lot more sense, doesn't it
@@akumakorgar well a lot of Asia really including the Middle East beyond Israel… also Africa… and North America… oh and Australia… am I missing a continent they committed genocide on? Oh yeah Europe duh… Oh fuck South America too? Damn they genocided everywhere.
Emma’s tears are validating my crippling depression and difficulty to express my true thoughts this past week. Thank you and keep up the good fight you two!
Yet where were her tears for the israli victims
Emma's reaction mirrors how I've been feeling. It feels like intellectual debate is powerless against this racist, hypocritical bloodlust that rationalizes itself through propaganda.
Well said.
The pictures of the children killed or injured in this “war” have driven me to tears many times.
Emma, your humanity shines through in your work.
Thank you and of MR for the coverage of these dark times.
I don't see how this is some sort of difficult question. NO, Israel doesn't have a right to defend themselves by commiting war crimes and genocide.
Chefs kiss.
Check US law. There is a clear difference between defending oneself and retaliating.
And Hamas's beheading of babies and using fellow Palestinians as human shields is justifiable as "fighting oppression"?? Their WRITTEN CHARTER states their ENTIRE existence is engineered for killing Israelis. Israel is apartheid in some ways for sure, and it's horrible, but they don't openly advocate the murder of innocent civilians.
Hamas is not interested in a two-state solution. They are more interested in generating chaos and global martyrdom by provoking an overreaction (like now, perhaps) so they can cast blame on Israel and the West later.
@@lynchsc420 then why isn't the US backing the Palestinian people, who should not to be confused with Hamas, obviously.
Edited for clarity.
@@ImNotThereYeti The Palestinian people don’t have anything the US wants. The US doesn’t defend democracy or morality like it claims. The US defends its interest. And the US having a white ally in the middle east is worth the world seeing our hypocrisy.
"Are you saying they have no right, to commit war crimes"?
Yes, that's exactly the point, they have NO RIGHT to commit genocidal war crimes
The irony of that MP accusing him of 'ignoring the atrocities of the last week' as she ignores the atrocities of the last 50 years would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
I'm an oldie at 83 and I, like you, I feel very sad about what is going on here. I admire you guys for standing up with the whole truth of the matter. Hamas may be a terrorist organisation, but so is Israel. Lots of innocent people on both sides will die because of the terrorism of BOTH sides. The poltician talks about the past few days, but fails to admit there have been may years of terror on the Palestinian people from Israel. I feel for the innocent people on both sides.
Not “Israel” as a whole, but it’s current government that uses fascist rhetoric to rationalize fascist acts. Netanyahu, Putin, Orban, Trump are state actors whose rhetoric & policies aren’t nearly as different from Hamas’s as they should be. The worst mistake my country made was teaching post WW2 generations, fascism was exclusively European. Now, that we have people convicted of sedition & fascism is creeping back across the West, some of us are finally learning about the “Great Sedition Trial of 1944”, Father Coughlin & Silvershirts. I pray enough of us vote against the party that intends on instituting “Project 2025” & whose “leader” can’t stop praising dictators & terrorists, because he aspires to both!
Let’s not forget that the loudest voices calling for retaliation against Gaza are also promoting antisemitism and racism at home. The irony should not be lost.
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Labour were mostly anti zionist and had the anti semetic trope aimed at them which is the response of zionists but now Labours fear of being called anti semetic has pushed them into a zionist stance most of the anti zionists were kicked out of the labour party btw like in the USA both parties are shite just the party on the right is worse
Noam Chomsky, on Palestinian resistance
“You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, I am to blame: I shot a rocket back” Noam Chomsky
its a very necessary distinction to make between defending palestine and defending hamas - i dont think rockets are really ever justified as thats just always gonna kill citizens most of the time. legally, if someone literally steals your house you can defend it. obviously
@@akgfilming no you can't defend your home as a Palestinian, cause they roll into your town with tanks and the IDF bulldozing it. They made peaceful resistance completely impossible.
@@akgfilmingdisingenuous crap. Hamas wouldn't exist without Israeli occupation.
@@akgfilming If the people stealing my house are a well-funded military, with tanks, planes, helicopters, drones etc, and I am unarmed, through what obvious means could I defend my house? You mentioned a legal remedy?
לעזאזל עם המוסד, צה"ל והליכוד.
What annoys me the most is that she claims he's "ignoring the last few days"... Lady, aren't you ignoring the last 50+ years? Just another case of the little guy standing up for themselves, only to be punished for it...
It's ridiculous because she's ignoring the humanitarian crisis of the last few days.
The apartheid apologists want everyone to believe that the entire history of the conflict started on Oct 7, 2023
Well, If you truthfully want to talk about ignoring the history between these two peoples, let's take it all the way back to the beginning, when this war was started, and talk about the battle of Jericho. Where the Hebrew nation indiscriminately slaughtered pregnant women, new born infants, children, and everyone else, to take this land that didn't belong to them.
Remember Jericho was a fully functioning city complete with walls, and a population of people who had done all the work required to turn a barren desert land into farmable land with access to water. The Jewish nation believed it should be theirs because their version of god supposedly told the men in charge it was their "promised land" and instead of just doing the labor required to build their own city, they conquered a city that was already inhabited by other human beings.
This entire stupid war is an ongoing claim that the yahweh version of the Abrahamic god supposedly told the Hebrew nation that they should covet the people of Jericho's possessions, murder them, and steal the land and resources they worked to create.
So much for those 10 commandments god set in stone for his people to follow, huh?
Claims of some god being involved aside, this ongoing war is a perfect real world example of why it's so wrong to covet, murder, and steal.
Also he opened up the whole segment by directly addressing the Hamas attack and giving a heartfelt condemnation of it.
@@ImNotThereYetiyou sound like a atheist fanatic!!
A huge slice of the press globally have been downright ghoulish around this situation for decades, let alone the situation recently.
Thank you, Emma, not least for setting me off again. I've been crying almost non-stop for the last week.
Owen is one of only a few voices consistently on the right side of things. Hodge, meanwhile, was on =e of the major bad actors behind the so-called 'Labour anti-Semitism crisis', that saw Corbyn vilified, the left essentially purged from the party, and the largest number of expulsions of Jewish members in history, and it's all because they advocate for ending the occupation in Palestine.
The actions of Hamas are despicable, and they deserve to be excoriated, but Hamas couldn't exist without the occupation.
The asymmetry is off the scale. Bows and arrows against the lightning, and almost nobody's got the backs of ordinary Palestinians.
Big fan of Owen, He does great work covering UK politics, Highly recommend him if you are interested
Yeah, I'd never heard of the guy until this show (Friday?). It's good that there are people speaking up for peace and against revenge.
He has a great UA-cam channel, worth mentioning.
Colonialism the gift that keeps giving.
heart of darkness
Thanks England /s
♥ to Emma. I think her tears represent what most of us on the left are feeling right now.
I’ve been on the verge of tears for days now. It’s heartbreaking the loss of all innocent lives.
"There is no cause that justifies this violence, but there is a history that explains it... and that is apartheid and occupation." Really well put!
Emma just made cry 😢 im Palestinian and have family there. I been heart broke all week
The woman admits she doesn't know shit about the situation by accusing the person with an informed take of having an "obsession".
Great point!
She is obviously equivocating and using emotive strawmen to try to shut Owen down and he has the righteous side of this debate in my view. But it is perhaps just worth bearing in mind that the UK has a tiny Jewish population that is very frequently targeted by both white far right and islamic extremists. If it can be said there is a victim mentality in effect that is causing Margaret Hodge to be affronted by default and to colour her opinions, it does have it's roots in genuine cause. Like everything really difficult.
@@Lagrangeifythis is the time where critical thinking is necessary. To fall back on the victim mentality is lazy and useless af. I’m so disgusted by all these so called “leftist” championing genocide . Fucking appalling.
@@Lagrangeify The fact that Jewish minorities anywhere is disproportionately often targets of religious extremism does not grant a Jewish majority to do "a little" genocide cart blanche. It's not self defense to level people's homes.
"I'm concerned about the lives of innocent Israelis because I value human life and world peace. You're concerned about the lives of innocent Palestinians because you have a weird obsession."
Two wrongs make a right-wing government
Congratulations on your best comment of the year nomination.
Nelson Mandela and ANC freedom fighters were called “terrorist” during the apartheid South African regime by the U.S, Israel, and Britain. The same playbook is being used against Palestinian people.
The ANC did not target women and children to kidnap and cut their heads off...but they fought using whatever means available to them to free all south Africans.
ANC engaged in terrorist bombing at the start, but they eventually stopped doing it because it didn't produce any results.
@@lou.yorke.xThey stopped when world public opinion started leaning in their favor. 👍😳👍
@@lou.yorke.xthey only stopped once the government began serious negotiations to bring about the end of apartheid.
And even then, the apartheid government continued to secretly fund third parties (usually the IFP) to commit atrocities in the hopes of destabilising the negotiations
Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid by Jimmy Carter
I am an Indigenous (Navajo) of Turtle Island. My ancestors were also ordered to leave our homes and land in the 4 Corners area in the 1860's and marched over 400 miles to a concentration camp in the Texas NM border which was known as the Long Walk. Over 25 percent of them died while on the march and while being held there for over 4 years along with the Mescalero Apache Unlike all the tribal nations we were allowed to return to a small portion of our original lands in 1868 rather than being forced to continue on to Oklahoma. The US figured it would be lest costly to just let the Navajo return to the what they thought was worthless land at the time. So we know what the Palestinian people are going through because we and almost every other Indigenous Tribal Nation have been there. The US wanted us out of the way for their "Manifest Destiny" so that they could take over our land and our resources to become one of the worlds wealthist nations at our expense. Colonization is wrong and people suffer History just keeps repeating itself and granted Hamas did start this latest war the Palestinian children should not have be the main victims of Israel's retailation. Just as they keep saying that Isreal has a right to protect its people and land well that is what our people across the US and Canada did we yet we were branded as savages, barbaric for defending our land and people almost completely being wiped out plus losing 98 percent of our original homeland.
"you're ignoring what's happening in the last few days" and everyone else is ignoring the last decades
"if you were an israeli?" what about "if you were a palestinian"
"It doesn't justify it, but it does explain it" is a very poignant view of the current situation in Gaza. Left is best. ♥️♥️♥️😢
No it does not.
@@blondiegreeneyes4802of course it does.
You hear about prison riots because of atrocious conditions. The riots need to be put down. But if you don't improve things, you can't expect no more prison riots.
@@blondiegreeneyes4802 "It doesn't justify it, but it does explain it."
"No it does not."
Saying that suggests (reveals?) that you either don't *understand* the distinction or... perhaps you're just a three month and twelve day old bot or troll.
Owen Jones is a great humanitarian.
Hes an absolute joke in UK. No one takes him serious.
If he was in charge of the chicken on a farm this dope would say "tear down fences, we can talk to these foxes"...
His wet blanket approach would literally get the ppl around him killed.
Absolute dangerous numpty
Emma's tears are a sign of true empathy and compassion for humankind.
I wish all the best for her and her career as a political commentator and journalist. The world needs more people like her.
The nerve of that labor representative to saw "The horrors that *WE'VE* experienced" as if she was in Israel or Palestine at any point recently
I feel you, Emma. It's heartbreaking.
I would title this video, "Leftist RUTHLESSLY TALKED OVER During Media’s Relentless Apartheid Apologia". Owen wasn't able to complete a single thought, so it is a bit far to say he _shredded_ them.
I thought he held his own and communicated a clear and concise argument even with her attempted talk overs. She was indeed an asshole. 👍😳👍
"Talked over" might imply that there was a counterpoint of some sort. This was absolutely nothing. Just a warmonger begging for the dissonance to stop
At least Owen Was on MR so his opinions were covered by an American site.
We love and agree with you, Emma. Yours is a wonderful voice for the oppressed and forgotten
So glad you are boosting Owen's excellent fightback against abject selective inhumanity
🙏🏼 Bless you, Emma and crew... thank you for speaking out for us.
She was so triggered by him having some humanity...
She was triggered by herself having none. She worked so hard to justify her ruthless heartless vile position because she KNOWS she's rooting for atrocities. It's like the pro lifers who want to force underage r@pe victims to give birth to their rapist's hellspawn. They justify it by leaning hard on "saving babies" because they KNOW that if they have to assess the situation realistically, they are sentencing a child to a destroyed body and a ruined mind...
She frames it in a way she can live with.. And we see what she's OK with... She's OK with Israel doing what it does, but she knows she's wrong.. So she has to spin. She has to reframe it.
WOW! That's quite the attempt on Margarets part to try and undermine Owens perspective by gaslight ing him. She's a dangerous individual.
Thank you for expressing my sorrow and helplessness Emma.
I feel so much better when I scurry for real news and MR exactly feeds that void… thank you! ❤
I'm exactly where you are, Emma. It's right before our eyes and we can't stop it. I'm so upset.
Had this convo with my family yesterday. I was shocked that I was the only one that realized that this didn't just start a few days ago. I think I got through to my mom. She has a good heart she just had been so brainwashed...
That what faux news does. If shes white and over 40 yrs old, they're watching that garbage.
The media keeps up with the narrative that wild terrorists keep attacking for no reason. So they can hide the apartheid state.
That’s most people. Very difficult and time consuming to not be brainwashed in our system.
Apparently it’s not just the internet that has a short memory
Sweet Emma...your compassion for the awfulness happening in Israel and Gaza is so heartfelt. Sometimes I wonder how you can all go on in the face of the atrocities abroad and at home. I send my love and support. I wish with all my heart that this world becomes a better place 💔
Why would you delete a tweet calling for peace? Are you afraid of being on your deathbed thinking: “I called for peace too much in my life”
As a member of the Noise Noise Noise Party, I would be ashamed to call for _too much_ peace. Too much quiet is too eerie.
Imagine if the US punished Mass Shooters by indiscriminately bombing the neighborhoods in which they resided. Whether their neighbors knew about what was happening or not.
Thank you guys for showing this clip. It is a perfect example of how society at large and the media have reacted to the situation.
I wake up every single day absolutely enraged. These people are monsters. I can’t believe how actively ignorant they pretend to be and how obviously they attempt to play word games in the face of genocide. In my lifetime, I have not been this disgusted by my government and it’s allies
Emma is a good person. This is and has been awful.
No, she's down right evil to the bone.
Rich Trust fund baby, Plays the role of being a poor working class person. All virtue signaling.
@@cosimodirondo972C'mon dude ..... lift your troll game !
@@cosimodirondo972 Low tier bait, try harder fool!
@cosimodirondo972 You're a bad nerd. ...Really do it poorly
Emma is an excellent journalist Thanks Majority Report for all you do.
I despair. I can’t believe this is the world we live in. People are so easily misled by disinformation the mind boggles. I’m a full grown man and I’m tearing up and the anxiety is really bad. These people have the Gaul to quote Christ and hide behind religion. Keep up the good work MR.
Emma is such a beautiful person inside and out. Thank you and the whole Majority Report team for your excellent coverage on this issue. Thank you for your empathy in a time when there is so little.
So there is justification for genocide now….ok. High ground lost forever.
The world learned nothing from the Holocaust, except that it's not okay to target Jews.
agreed, tankies will justify the genocide of jews no matter how, who, or when
High ground was lost forever in 1948 when they invaded Palestine
@@TP-pq9xx exactly, "israel" is incapable of ever having the high ground, because of its original sin.
@@YTsupportsZionaziGenocidei mean weren’t the Jews kicked out of Israel way before. Isn’t that the original sin lol
You people at this channel (especially Emma and the guy whom we cannot see - Matt), since this Gaza Genocide has begun?
Have just hit home run after home run on this.
Thank you SO much for your coverage.
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@@wildsmiley Thank you...I'll change it now.
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We all watched this play out after 911 and too many people learned nothing.
"We shouldnt bomb children"
"You MONSTER!"
There was a massive demonstration in Dublin yesterday in support of our Palestinian brothers, Ireland always stands with them against oppression
You’re so happy to be against oppression , great , if Israel gave in to all of Hamas demands would they stop firing rockets ? Be honest ?
Settler colonialism, apartheid, ethnic cleansing as a means of defense... Israel using the Russia playbook.
That playbook was designed and authorized for Ireal.
The British playbook. The Brits wrote, published, edited, and revised that playbook.
The British invented it, the Nazis perfected it, the Russians are botching it, Israel is cruising on it.
UM YOU MEAN BRITISHH WHITE DEVIL PLAYBOOK
@@christophersmith3005is Britain still controlling India and Hong Kong? Hmm
I think Owen was trying to be tactical by starting out by condemning hamas, so that way he would be able to point at that when the inevitable attack came, and look at how the woman blatantly lied even after he made such an emphatic denunciation at the very beginning of his statement.
I think most democrats, officials and voters, recognize that what the US government did to the indigenous people of America was horrible, beyond reprehensible. Anyone who is able to recognize that should also be able to recognize that what Israel is doing currently is basically the same thing and is also reprehensible.
Of course. But the US has political interest in Israel, so the U.S. leadership can’t be too loud in telling the truth - as it would be very hypocritical
These same people would be equivocating between lynchings of runaway chattel slaves and violent slave uprisings (that include horrific acts) were they alive before the American Civil War.
The Hamas attack is a bit like a bullied kid, having had enough, jumping up and punching his tormentor in the nose. The response by the Israelis is classic bully behavior.
This is such a good analogy.
No its not. Hamas are fascist religious nutters who would love to kill all Jews. Thats their official agenda, downplaying it does no good for anyone. Hamas and the current Israeli government are two sides of the same coin and thats about it.
Totally. It is that simple.
This is more like the Warsaw Ghetto uprising and Israeli are the Nazi.
No, this is a typical american "bullied" kid, who does not know what it even means because he's a psycho. Meanwhile the really bullied kids get the bad rep. because this one little brat.
How people can soft-shoe anything going on is beyond me.
Emma, you're not alone. I get choked up talking about Palestine, too.
Owen was brilliant. Margaret ignores willfully the way Owen started calling out the terror act. Ignores the points he makes. Ignores the facts raised to tow a party line and the talking points.
What needs to be said and called out is that lady is justifying the massacre of civilians. Full stop.
I feel you Emma. I have the same Weltschmerz right now🌍😔
Yes same
Owen Jones is a tireless and articulate advocate for socialism in the UK (and beyond). He's a good writer too - worth keeping an eye on his Guardian columns and UA-cam channel for informed insight into British (or more specifically, English) politics.
Did you catch that moment where she started in on her shit and he had to fight to hold himself in? lol
Lol an advocate for socialism. Let’s pray we never get socialism
@@crazyeight9 America will go sociaIist soon. We've Ied enough chiIdren to the Ieft in the schooIs. We will have them vote for Ieftism and you watch how this repubIic is changed forever. Dæth to capitaIism! HaiI soIidarity! HaiI the Ieft! 🙋♂️
What's funny@@akumakorgar , why the lol? This is a serious situation. Nothing is funny about this.
@@tab1907 FO, scold. I've been depressed about this for days
Michael Brooks would be so proud Emma. thanks everyone for speaking up for peace, everyone has a right to live and exist damnit.
I get so angry at times the line between anti-zionism and anti-semitism starts to get tangled in my own mind.
But I always go back to this. 25 years ago when I started to really question what the hell was really going on in Isreal Palestine I found my first answers coming from Israeli and Jewish writers, journalist, scholars and historians. They are the ones that pointed me to Arab, Palestinian and Western scholars, journalists and historians like Edward Said, Robert Fisk etc.
With few exceptions (thank god for MR and others like you) western discourse on the subject is always the right wing Israeli government propaganda with a good sprinkling of religious mythology as history.
Keep up the good work.
This woman is basically saying that if somebody breaks into your house and hurts you or your family, you should be able to go burn that person’s neighbors’ houses down and then claim self-defense. Like, it’s literally insane.
The UK is rapidly going loopy. It's not quite so bad here in Scotland, but it ain't great. The media has truly lost the plot, as have so many in political parties.
Only because Scotland has just been treated as the last vestige of empire for England and SNP rapidly becoming more pro-business but it’s at the least more wary of the big two down south being the exact same party when it comes to material conditions.
The UK has been a neoliberal hellhole for years now. That's what happens when your country is run by conservatives for over a decade.
YEH I HEARD THAT YOUR FIRST MINISTER'S MOTHER IN LAW AND HER WHOLE FAMILY ARE TRAP IN GAZA AND BEING BOMB NOW?
Genocide is bad is now a hot take. Nice.
It's post 9/11 hysteria all over again
@@MSCCA 100% and the same people that now claim they were actually opposed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will claim that they weren’t pro Israel in 20 years
Owen has the patience of a saint. That woman is unbelievable and utter garbage.
Yeah, the problem is indeed that one side of this argument ONLY cares about the suffering of innocents on one side of this conflict. That would be the pro-Israeli state side that shrew belongs to.
The pro-Israeli state side refuses to acknowledge the suffering or even humanity of the Palestinians under any circumstances. They regularly dehumanize the Palestinians and constantly call for increasing their suffering.
Humanitarians have repeatedly acknowledged the suffering of innocents on both sides and called for an end to all of it. Humanitarians just focus more on Palestinian suffering because their suffering is greater and Israel has the power to end the conflict. Israel is the oppressor and holds all the cards.
That woman’s family is infamous on the level of rockerfella and Rothschild. And she allegedly did some evil, corrupt things whilst in government. Think one of them was covering up child abuse.
Much ❤
I am just so glad that the support for Palestine is getting stringer among public opinion
How the heck is bombing innocent civilians ‘defending’ Israel.
It isn't.
As someone who has a Sri Lankan background; I cry for this situation. Stop it.
I'm with you Emma. I haven't been able to sleep because it all makes me so sick. I hope you can find a way to take care of yourself.
Much love.
Its heartening to hear some sanity and humanity.
I worry our whole civilisation may not survive this revenge.
Watching the world cheer on the destruction of the Palestinian ppl is beyond disturbing. Because they can transfer this same energy towards any group they want, all they need is a reason.
Owen is a hero here in the UK
I'm glad i'm not the only one brought to tears by this.