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Today we begin a series of videos dedicated to the Spanish railways.
A keyword that for us became a synonym for the Spanish railways is diversity. Namely, you can barely find a country with four different track gauges, a well-developed high-speed rail network, fascinating landscapes, including beautiful nature, deserts, canyons, sierras, unique villages, and plenty of different rail services provided by several public and private railway operators.
As we usually do in this kind of series, this video will deal with the development and overview of the Spanish railways, the next one will cover the development of the Spanish high-speed rail system, and the third will show the evolution of Spanish high-speed trains.
The story about the development and overview of the Spanish railways includes the historical aspect of the development of railways in Spain, the reform of the old RENFE and the railway sector (formation of ADIF and AVE), and, as an inevitable part, of course, some facts and figures about the traffic and the market.
Do you think we managed to present the main aspects of the Spanish railway system in this video? Tell us in the comments below!
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You also have to take into account that Spain is a roller coaster in terms of topography, which makes it more difficult than in countries like Germany (pretty flat) when designing the train network and gives the engineers a lot of merit.
thats exactly why iberian gauge exists, the wider tracks allow for higher speeds at steeper inclinations.
Some part of Germany is flat - but on the other hand the Cologne to Frankfurt high speed line is called "the rollercoaster". It has inclines of 1 in 25 and only Siemens Velaro based trains (ICE3 and newer, RENFE 103 is basically the same) right now are approved to go there. Other trains, including the older ICE 1 and 2 are lacking power for the inclines.
These however run on the Hannover - Munich line (with a break still using conventional line in the middle) which is nicked "world's fastest undergrund line" because the lack of climbing ability of the first two ICE generations has them running in tunnels under the mountains for a large share. The northern part runs for 36% underground - two tunnels of nearly 11 km - and an also impressive 9% on bridges and viaducts - the longest at 1.6 km, the higest nearly 100 m above ground.
@@antoniocampen On the other hand Japan in mountainous too but went for narrow gauge instead, probably as they allow trains to negotiate sharper curves with less wheel slippage, so trains & their tracks can more easily go around mountains & save on the costs of tunneling thru them
ICE (the German high-speed service) has some Diesel locomotives preciously because there are some regions with mountains, and between the train itself and the electricity overhead, Diesel was found to be a better solution.
Spain is pretty much like Germany, in the sense that it has many parts of long flat lands, and some regions with mountains.
As previously mentioned, Japan is quite more challenging regarding to mountains - albeit, the distances are quite smaller.
My question is:
Did Spain needed so many high-speed lines?
Are all those high-speed lines profitable - in the sense that a public service must not break the bank year-over-year?
In the Philippines, the Spanish government founded the Ferrocarril de Manila Dagupan in November 24, 1892.
The first spanish railway was actually built in Cuba during the colonial time and other railway system in the americas were also built by them. So what is your point?
@@CarlH08 they're just adding extra info, what's the point of you being rude? Didn't we come here to learn?
@@CarlH08 When did he point out that it was the first one?
@@CarlH08 filipinos are extremely proud of their country. Like ridiculously proud, so they share their history. But I mean every drop of information is welcome so who cares!
I'm Spanish and I'm surprised seeing everyone from outside loving our trains, meanwhile we are complaining about them a lot
Well, you don't have the full picture about them until they are part of your daily life. From outside it looks fantastic, but just try to go between two big cities without having to make a 4 hour trip to Madrid first. Not to mention anything that isn't AVE is almost 40 years old at this point.
@@FrcNeru thing is, until you lived outside Spain or come from, God forbid, the US, you really don't realize just how stunning public transportation is in Spain across the board.
American here from NY who has been living in Spain since 2009 and public transportation in general never ceases to amaze me.
Everything from the AVE, to metro, to the commuter trains to Alcalá de Henares or Aranjuez to the bus service etc.
Everything is clean, on time, affordable, when compared to the US it feels like "the future" and other expats I know here, from Germans and Britons to Romanians and Turks everyone raves about at least one of the 3 things I mentioned before.
As a Spanish Railway Engineer, it was about time to watch that video, thanks!! As somebody pointed out, the first line was in Cuba, at that time Spanish province, between Güines and Havanna to carry cane sugar. It'd be interesting if you talked about the regional networks, the one which aren't under ADIF but under the correspondant regional governments (Balearic Islands, Catalonia, Valencia and the Basque Country). Also the double gauge lines or the train gauge changers, they are mind blowing and something really Spanish! Cannae wait to see the second part.:-)
Preparen la conversion de toda la red de ferro carril de ancho ibérico para UIC. Y preparar la reapertura de lá Fuente San Esteban hasta barca d alva
@@mitoCoroadoJr No.
Finish the GOD DAMN Asturias line.
Please. Imagine living a life where you never ride trains to Madrid.
Coming from Germany, I was so surprised to take the fast renfe train from Madrid to Valencia. So fast, smooth and perfectly on time. And so cheap... I was envious and jealous.
Spain is interested people to pass thru Madrid to go from Barcelona to València than directly and almost got it. Why? (Long to explain, but it deal with politics).
@@jaumejoseoranies7948 qué ladras jajaja
@@danielsancha6385 La verdad. Tardo más de 5 horas en ir a muchas ciudades bastante grandes y turísticas como la mía que están a hora o menos en coche y a Madrid tardo 2.5h. Y así están muchas rutas.
@@1312_PV Vamos a ver. Lo primero, el comentario decía que la gente pasa por madrid para ir de barcelona a Valencia y no tiene sentido porque nadie lo hace. Y segundo, Madrid está en todo el puto centro de España, es normal que tenga buenas conexiones porque de ahí se puede distribuir pasajeros al resto del país
@@danielsancha6385 En muchos países la red es mayormente transversal y funciona fenomenalmente eso de no tener que pasar por Madrid para ir de Córdoba a València, mismamente.
Lo mismo que puedes llevar a todo el mundo a Madrid y distribuir allí primero debe implementarse de forma mucho más fuerte a nivel de provincias, que es donde ocurren la mayoría de desplazamientos del día a día. Pero a día de hoy ni puedo ir en tren entre Gandía y Dénia, ni entre muchas capitales de províncias anexas (o no de forma digna). Muchas de estas conexiones existieron y se extinguieron por motivos políticos.
Luego lo de su ejemplo tras las modificaciones recientes en la línea ciertamente no se hace, pero antes de ellas vaya que si se hacía... Y ahora la red continúa siendo una porquería, como casi todas las que no tocan Madrid, aunque el AVE lo paguemos todo el mundo por igual.
We were blown over, by the Spanish high speed network..
Not wanting to fly, we used it pre Covid to reach our holiday destination...Wow..
I love traveling on Spanish railways every time I visit the country, it's one of the best services in all of Europe.
About histroy: first Spanish train was not actually in the Iberia peninsule. Was in Cuba in 1837 when the island "belonged" to Spain.
About rail gauges: some smalls areas has 3 gauges (1000mm,1435mm, 1668mm, for instance at Port de Barcelona), some other uses 3 iron rails to provide 2 gauges at same time (in direct translation the 3rd Thread), and in Port Bou there are smalls portions with two gauges (1668mm and 1435mm) but actually not following same path so they use 4 iron rails.
Curiosities:
- Interconnection with France exists, and several ways to overpass gauge change. Actually two spanish companies sold adjustable-gauge rolling stock with very mature technology proven for years.
- At same time signaling systems are also diverse inside RFIG. There is a common basic standard ASFA with a cool video explanation available in Internet, actually this has been already updated to Digital-ASFA.
- As development was done by several companies some "duplicated" path existed, and exists, for some routes. And some lines were never opened but mostly constructed.
Thanks for the additional information!
RL2 (Lleida-La Pobla de Segur) was until year 2002 with the gauge of 1674 mm (6 castlian feet) and today L1 Barcelona underground still is at 1674 mm (in spite of a connection with Rodalies at pl. Catalunya of Barcelona with gauge of 1668 mm).
Cuba didn't belong to Spain. Cuba was Spain, like as any other province.
3:20 The first Spanish railway was that of the province of Cuba (the richest in Spain) in 1837, which covered the Havana-Güines route
I moved to Spain 7 years ago, and I have to say, Iberian Gauge trains are
Man, you're absolutely right
Kek never rode anything else. Very curious fact.
There's a mistake in the video. The first railway in Spain was built in 1837 in Cuba. Spain didn't have colonies but provinces. Cuba was considered another province. If we are talking about peninsular Spain then the video is correct, the first railway dates from 1848.
Spain is easily the powerhouse of high speed trains in Europe.
You mentioned that the Spanish rail network was not as dense as those from other more economically developed European countries, but this is only one factor. The other determining factor is the fact that Spain was then, as it is now, much less densely populated than other countries in Western Europe.
The video has given a clear image of Spain of what it was a century ago, but I think there is a lack of data on the dome it is today. Spain is as developed as those European countries.
In fact, Spain is far above the rest of the European countries in many things.
Spain is the second country in the world with more kilometers of high-speed trains. It is also the second country in Europe in kilometers of highways, but it is the third country in the world with more kilometers of highways 15,400km (after China and the USA) (UK has 3,700km) being the majority of highways free, but it is also one of the 4 countries in Europe with the fewest fatal traffic accidents.
It has low population density and low density of use of infrastructures, and that is a VERY positive fact because they are not saturated as it happens in countries like the Netherlands or the United Kingdom.
Trains in Spain are the second most punctual in the world, behind Japan.
www.hosteltur.com/121040_trenes-ave-seconds-points-world.html
Also in Airports, this year Madrid Barajas is the fourth most punctual in the world behind Japan, Atlanta and Singapore.
And the most punctual airline in Europe this year is Vueling, which is Spanish.
In terms of infrastructure development, many countries lagged behind.
Spain is on the lists of the healthiest country in the world, the one with the highest life expectancy after Japan.
First in organ donation in the world
Third in Health in the world
First European country with women governing
One of the first countries in Equality
1st best country in the world to be born
www.lainformacion.com/economia- Negocios-y-finanzas/ESPANA-MEJOR-MUNDO-BIENESTAR-DELOITTE_0_1037896611/
thecorner.eu/spain-economy/spain-retains-its-its-27-year-world-leadership-in-organ-donation-and-transplants/77719/
Spain is the country in the world with the most cities among the 10 best places to live.
etc.
@@Atreas1845 tremendo
@@Atreas1845 ya, pero nos gusta mucho quejarnos :P
@@LtdJorge Es precisamente porque nos quejamos que las cosas mejoran.
He vivido por cuestiones de trabajo en España, Francia, EEUU, Alemania, Italia y ahora en Suiza. En España se vive muy bien, pero es muy difícil borrar siglos de atraso económico. Mi experiencia me ha demostrado que España ha progresado muchísimo, pero lamentablemente aún no ha alcanzado los niveles de los países mencionados. Especialmente en términos de innovación, competitividad, educación y cultura de trabajo. Tiene niveles de desempleo difícil de entender y un déficit por las nubes. Pero se vive de maravilla, sobre todo por su gente muy calurosa y su clima.
The first train in regular use in Spain was the Havana-Güines line, inaugurated on November 19, 1837. The first in Spain and in all of Latin America. Its function was to transport all the merchandise from the rich agricultural region of Güines to Havana.
Spain is interesting for sure, I'm now in Spain. Trying out different trains of course, there will be trip reports on this.
Didn´t know that my country had such an amazing train infrastructure compared to the rest of Europe lol. Thnaks for the video man, appreciate it
What surprises me is how Spain has managed a successful gauge changing system for years yet Japan, which is always considered to be at the forefront of train technology, had to abandon it's attempt only within the last few years!
Wow!
China is doing way better now
@@moRaaOTAKU not really, most of the high speed rail lines are unprofitable. People who have more money uses air travel, people who don't have lot of money uses regular rail. If they let's say ban domestic flights, the demand for high speed rail will increase but for now that is not the case.
@@ristekostadinov2820 I mean, most of Spain's high speed rail routes aren't profitable either and that's fine, high speed rail should aim to serve the people, not to make a profit
@@MarcoAntonio-hw7si to be fair we drive cars and that is unprofitable as hell + increased healthcare costs from car pollution, but i do get it rail is mostly operated as public utility for people and as business for shipping goods.
Now, one thing that sets the Spanish railways apart from other networks, is how cost effectively they built their high speed rail network. Very low construction costs, some of the lowest in the world per kilometer. I don’t know about anybody else but if I was building a 600 miles long HSR rail through the San Joaquin valley to connect San Francisco and Los Angeles I would absolutely want Renfe and the Spanish HSR authority to weigh in and streamline the process so that one does not run out of money after phase 1 from nowhere in particular to nowhere important.
Isn't this one of the reasons why a Spanish consortium was the one hired to make the Mecca-Medina HSR line?
@@adriancampos8640 Yeah, definitely
Spanish trains have to cover near empty land between its large cities
Yeah what a success to build something underpaying labourers and corrupt politicians giving the rights of construction to companies without the proper public contests
@@2adamast and also really challenging terrain, Spain is one of the countries with the most rugged terrain in the continent so yeah its cost efficient
I love travelling on the Spanish railways especially the AVE. It is interesting to find out some of the history. As always, another fine video. Many thanks.
You're welcome!
The first Spanish railway was in Havana (Cuba) in 1837,which by then was a region of Spain.
Fun fact: the actual first spanish railway was a 44,5 km long one from Havana to Güines, Cuba, in 1837, outdating the Barcelona-Mataró railway for some years
Wow, this is some spectacular good deep work and great background research. I didn't know the Spanish railways were so diverse. No wonder the SNCF is fretting opening its rail to international competition.
Thanks for this history of the Spanish Railways - really interesting & well put together as always!
¡Perfecto vídeo! Grande la historia de los ferrocarriles españoles 👏🚉 🇪🇸❤
¡Gracias!
Great video but you made a small mistake.
The first railroad in Spain wasn´t the Barcelona-Mataro line (1848), that was the second one.
The first railroad in Spain was in Cuba in 1837, with the Havana-Güines line. When the island was still part of Spain as a province. .
Greetings.
Only in Catalunya, the amount of trains and metro in Barcelona are insane
Also you can talk of the first Tram-Train intercity service in the wolrd, the Alicante-Benidorm CITYLINK train, that now is used from Dusseldorf(Germany) to Puebla(México) its a Tram but bigger and powerful to do Inter-City services and can reach 120kmh. The first CITYLINK prototype is the Vossloh 4100, now owned by STADLER RAIL, and the most advanced Tram-Train, a New kind on Intercity-Urban mix, the CITYLINK model derivated from the Alicante-Benidorm prototype IS NOW USED ON MORE THAN 10 COUNTRIES!!! This model is revolutionary, replacing small trams and old short distance trans, for a Tram-Train hybrid (that actually can run on Electric or Diesel and is even faster than short distance typical trains with 100kmph+)
Spain is the second most mountainous country in Europe after Switzerland. It is also the second largest country in Europe after France.
As a spanish who only used train once it amazes me that foreigners are so fascinated with the railway system in Spain.
Great video. The history of the Spanish rail network is very interesting. Keep up the good work👍
you forgot to mention how Renfe dismantles "non-profitable" railway lines and manipulates ticket prices how they want
Currently, I’m in San Sebastián on a trip that started in Cadiz and finishes in Bilbao (where I’ll get the ferry back to the UK). Planning this trip, information available is sketchy at best. The existence of Feve as a rail operator only became known to me by looking at Google maps. It’s not possible to find Feve routes on The Trainline or other ticketing apps. It’s obvious that for speed, Bilbao and San Sebastián is better connected by bus, but there is actually a train service that outside Spain, I was not aware off. It’s also very confusing to see three different lines operating in/out of the area of San Sebastián!
I loved this video! But I missed that you talk about the Mallocan train lines, they are (and were) a very interesting!
Great job... thank you so much for making such comprehensive, informative videos and for all of the excellent work you do... 😉
Well connected you say...huh. Us Spaniards hate our train service because you won't normally be able to travel from point A to point B unless it's by going to Madrid first. That and the lower amount of daily trains than other countires and the expensive tickets too
El primer ferrocarril español no fue Barcelona Mataró, pues el primero se hizo en Cuba en 1837. Siendo Cuba entonces una provincia española.
Se refiere al primer ferrocarril en España.
I’m glad UA-cam recommended this video, nice and informative. Definitely subscribed now.
Glad you like it 🙂
Top country in Europe by number km of high speed tracks. Also much cheaper than anywhere else, they make countries like UK or the USA look like third world in terms of railways
0:24 Actually we've got FIVE track gauges!!! Barcelona's metro L1 runs on OLD Iberian gauge, which is I think 1674mm (not a great difference with Iberian gauge, but still a different one) :)
Thanks for the video! I'm from Mataro where the first railway line was build, and many years ago I went to see the first locomotive it's so nice. But now this line is much more longer!
You're welcome!
La línea Barcelona-Mataró-Arenys-Blanes-Massanet (R1) es un desastre. Cuando hay temporal marítimo las olas llegan a la plataforma, obligando a suspender el servicio
@@andresalba6122 ya, como el jueves...
@Gerard Roca Vidal La locomotora 1-1-1 "Single Wheel" que has visto es una reproducción de la "Mataró" original y sus hermanas de serie.
La original la subieron a una especie de arco pedestal en una visita de Alfonso XII a la zona metropolitana de Barcelona al final de su reinado. Al bajarla la dañaron y tras apartarla esperando repararla una tromba de agua se la llevó por delante.
La que se conserva en el Museo de Vilanova junto a los 3 coches, tambien reproducciones de los originales, es el ~Tren del Centenario~ Construido en 1948 en los talleres de Renfe y las ruedas tractoras no coinciden con el diámetro de las originales de 1848, la razón porque se usó un eje estandar de los usados por algunas series de locomotoras de vapor en RENFE y eso abarató el trabajo.
Tampoco los alemanes conservaron la primera locomotora de su primera linea de ferrocarril, ~Der Adler~ (El Aguila) construida en los talleres de George y su Hijo Robert Stephenson. La enviaron por barco desmontada y la trasladaron a lomos de mulas y en carros, montandola en tierras germanas. Despues el maquinista y el fogonero fueron ingleses adiestrados por los Stephenson.
La existente es otra reproducción construida en tiempos del IIIer Reich por el primer centenario del FC. germano, que la propaganda de entonces ocultó convenientemente su origen inglés y que se quemó en un incendio fortuito en el depósito del Museo del FC. de Nüremberg durante una obras, hace unos años y la volvieron a restaurar.
Que sepa, solo Inglaterra conserva una de las hermanas de serie de "The Rocket" de la primera linea del FC. Stockton a Darlington. Y el inmueble original de su segunda linea, el Liverpool a Manchester, dentro del museo del transporte de Manchester, sino recuerdo mal.
@@jmcaro4360 vaya, gracias por la info, que pena que solo inglaterra sea el unico país que conserva la primera locomotora y que use sus locomotoras de vapor :(
Great research, very well explained. Muchas gracias!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You mentioned that narrow gauge was important in Asturias, which is true, but it was also really important in the north of the valencian community, particularly in Castellón with "la panderola". A 750mm railway that stayed in service from 1888 to 1963
Una maravilla el AVE, genial
Great thumbnail and video! Very interesting and informative.
Could you make a video about their metre gauge network? It's something I've been really curious about
very nice information
Spain was not as today, so the first train in Spain started his operations in 1837, from La Habana to Güines. But god to say "thre was other atemps ... " to cover that.
another great video!
Thanks 🙂
You could have talked or introduced a little bit about the companies owned by regional governments (FGC in Catalunya, FGV in Valencia, Euskotren in Basque country and SFM in Mallorca). They are not part of RFIG but they move lot of people in metropolitan services. Also they have touristic/historical trains.
Awesome trains 👌👍
Could you do a video about this rail network usage intensity based on the number of trains per day per route kilometer? Is that an international method of measuring utilization? Does it take train length into consideration? How do these European figures compare to utilization in other parts of the world?
Love you videos ☺️ Can you do India next ? Thankyou
Had standard gauge been picked for Spain and Portugal there would have been through connections between Lisbon and France and Spain and France Germany and Italy without breaking gauge just locomotive changes @ Irun, Canfranc, Puigcerda and Port Bou. This means that French, German, Swiss and Italian rail passenger cars could reach Spanish, cities and Lisbon. and likewise Portuguese and Spanish rail passenger cars could reach other European cities in other European countries. After WW2 there might even have been RENFE Cars on the Hispania Express which would have run from Madrid to Copenhagen ( Instead of Port Boy@ the Franco/Spanish Border) via the Vogelflugline using the ferry ports of Grossenbrode in Germany and Gedser in Denmark from 1955 to 1963 and then Puttgarden in Germany and Rodby Ferry in Denmark from 1963 to 1980. That means RENFE passenger cars would have been seen in Denmark at Copenhagen Central Station (Hovedbanegard) and DSB -( Danish State Railways ) Passenger cars at say Barcelona Sants Station and at Madrid Chamartin and DB( Deutsche Bundesbahn) passenger cars at the same stations. The same thing for freight trains. Spanish, and Portuguese standard Gauge freight cars would be able to access all of Europe without transloading. The same for other European freight cars. But the TALGO train would still have been invented. With TALGO services on the meter gauge network in North Spain enabling a Barcelona - Zaragoza - Bilbao - Oviedo- La Coruna - Santiago de Compostela service. Guage changers would be @ Bilbao and La Coruna. The Catalan Talgo TEE would still run but not need a gauge changer at Port Bou. This is an interesting what would have been. I think Spain and Portugal made a big mistake in the 1850's by not adopting the standard Stephenson gauge. That was part of the reason Spain and Portugal were economically backward for so long.
Great video
Kinda unrelated question
Why are there always a few empty flatbed wagons at the end of freight trains? (at least here in Spain)
pues porque están yendo de camino a recoger algo
Very nice
Spain's network is very interesting. What amazed me most in this video though is that even though they have the most extensive high speed network in Europe, people are still choosing to use private cars a lot. I wonder why? I had heard that Spanish rail fares are pretty cheap, and with the increases in oil prices and environmental concerns, I would have expected a higher share of the traffic than 6%.
it will probably grow up this year (I think, and hope) that's for sure. But relative to salaries it was suprisingly high (60 euros, probably more) and due to Madrid's centralism of operation, rather inconvenient depending on where you are from. But as I said due to this sky rocketing rise of oil prices, I expect freight and passenger rail travel will rise for sure
Spain has a very good highways and spanish people uses his own cars for comodity. High speed is not cheap for spanish salaries. The work market is a disaster.
High speed and long distance trains are fantastic, but for anything shorter than two hours by car unless you live in a very large city or happen to go to Madrid (the system is fully radial towards it) it will take you maybe twice or thrice as much by train by in car or be outright impossible by train.
I cannot go between my very turistic city in which there is over 100k people living in summer to another of similar caracterists which is 30km away by train. It will take me around 6 hours and I'll have to make a very large and stupid circle. Obviously by car it's less than half an hour, not 6 hours. And way too often when there is a fast route it's an stupid and expensive route which requieres you to travel 800 km and pass through Madrid and back in high-speed train, while in a straight line there are less than 200 km between the cities.
adding to jose, diego and roberto comments (cheap for tourists and business, not for peasants; automobile is super subsidized - huge network, mostly toll-free and very low oil taxes-; very centralized network and operations; complete absence of public transport outside large metropolitan areas):
- no integration and coordination between local services and regular trains with high speed services. they build and manage both networks almost as in competition.
- complete lack of accessibility: they assume that you will reach the station by car (they invest way more in parking lots than non-car access routes to the station) both for local and LD services. And, despite many trains have low floor access, many stations have no lifts, many have very low platforms, many are located in curves with highly tilted tracks, and most of the stations are abandoned, with no one at the station to help you or get tickets.
- may seem irrelevant but it actually stops many people from travelling: the ticketing, fares and website are a damn nightmare.
getting people on board is not just building fancy tracks and fast trains.
@@mateosc7 That is a good one. The town in which I grew has a tram system which is fully independent from other networks, so it only serves to go to towns nearby. It took me 25 minutes to walk to the station and I walked by the side of a 80 km/h road, no barrier between me and the cars.
It is still like that today, and people would rather go by car in less than half an hour than do the train ride. For the train you have to walk 25 minutes, come 10 minutes early because if you lose the train it'll be one hour since there is another one, arrive to your destination, walk a lot, blablabla, and leave when there is a train coming. If you're done 55 minutes early you'll have to wait them.
I know a lot of people that have had to buy a cheap used car or moped because otherwise they could not attend university despite them being in large cities.
Yeah the high speed trains are cool and all but the gov spent wayyy too much money on it bc not a lot of ppl use it anyway.
Spain can sell this to Australia!!!
Commuter service is on hold for almost 40 years, it must pay for the ultra expensive inoperative black hole of unneeded and loss making high speed rail network. Well except for Madrid commuting network, all perfect there, more money than even needed, that's all what Madrid politicians see.
Great 👍
Interesting how the Netherlands score so absurdly high. It's a densely populated country (second densest in the EU) with a relatively sparse railway network. The lower score means that they're running fewer trains. It correlates with lower population density, because France is relatively sparsely populated as well.
The situation in the Netherlands is that, on the busiest corridors, they run an intercity train every 10 minutes. And this is often a 12 car double decker.
But in Spain, you would still need people to fill the trains. Running more trains doesn't automatically mean more passengers. Perhaps they shouldn't have built all those high-quality motorways...
at the beginning of the video, i had mindfuck that is channel about art or railway xD
9:33 someone is burning something in the forest 👀
And hopefully one day our politicians will truly care about the Mediterranean corridor and upgrade/improve the lives of millions of people
I thought it was because the front looked like me fountain pen nib
Please spend some time on the ridiculous connection Hendaya-Irun. From TGV-speed (>200kmh) to tram speed (
Interesting
15:33
The location of some cities in this map is not accurate! The video was interesting though :)
Fun fact: AVE means bird in spanish
or pajaro
The first railway made by Spain was in Cuba
İm going to visit spain on May 4th any Train suggestions
If you can, take the Rodalies R3 Barcelona -Puigcerdà. It's one of the most beautiful commuter line in Spain.
There is another track gauge. Madrid's metro uses 1445 mm
Great vídeo!
I think Metro is usually separated from rail history, as it can be "allowed" to be weirder in gauge and rolling stock designs than conventional rail since most of it is not connected to any place else than the city its serving
It costs less money to take a plain Madrid to london than Madrid to Valencia by train
The prices. Fucking RENFE
La primera linea fferea en España fue en CUBA, Provincia ,que no colonia..
We Need Italy Also !!!
where is the next video ??
There is a clear gap in the high speed map. The basque country is one of the few communities without the service
It would've been built much more faster if some local political parties wouldn't had been boycotting it time and time again.
To the separatist don't like to have good comunications with Madrid.
Wouldnt be if they werent blown up by separatists every time they get close
13:04 try population density
Could You do one on Poland and it's railways?
And the ralways of Mallorca?
Todo genial pero cercanías de Cataluña como siempre va tarde JAJAJ
Spain has an impresive network in paper but the customer service given by renfe is so bad that a lot of people chose the car even if its more expensive just to avoid the haslt of dealing with Renfe. With competition the market of train travel is provably gonna explode in spain
@euskoferre where did you use it? I know in Madrid works well but in Catalunya other than the ave it is horrible. The trains are late constantly and not just 10m, and buying tickets onnline is just not possible. And with the ave they give you the money back if you can get to a renfe emploee in person whoch is hard to find in Paris, a city where they sell tickets to and from bc the service onnline is just unusable (when it works thatbis only arround 70% of the time for me)
@euskoferre no, they the lines are decided by the generalitat but its operated by renfe
@euskoferre I hope that they do a better job mostly with customer service. Bc rn I use the line SNCF-Renfe a lot and I prefear buying the tickerts from SNCF for the better customer service and a website that I don't hate to fight with to buy a ticket. If they don't the moment that more competition comes to Spain in the rain industry they gave a big problem
My experience with Renfe has been great
Never late
"Tren destino: Alcalá de Henares. Próxima parada: Atocha. Correspondencia con todas las líneas de Cercanías Renfe, trenes de AVE, Larga Distancia y Media Distancia desde la estación de Puerte de Atocha, y línea 1 de metro.
Train bound for: Alcalá de Henares. Next stop: Atocha. Connected to all Cercanías lines, AVE, Larga Distancia and Media Distancia trains from Puerta de Atocha station and metro line 1."
This is the announcement the train makes when travelling on lines C2, C7 and C8 of the commuter train in Madrid from Chamartín to Alcalá de Henares, a small city just east of Madrid, an absolute jewel. I had no idea how much history is behind this announcement and how many reforms were needed to make it possible. Spanish trains are cool but the tickets are usually too expensive and the trains are not always efficient. And yes, the company could not be arsed to translate "Larga distancia" and "Media distancia" in the announcement.
I am from Alcalá de Henares, you forgot to mention that it is the birthplace of the greatest writer in history, Miguel de Cervantes, the writer of "Don Quixote".
@@TheOdsd1977 ah, of course
That they are always late
A nice video. Thank you. But, my main thought as I watched this: why can't America have high-speed passenger rail like this?
Good question!
Because you have an overbloated military and a space agency to pay for!
Ask USA car manufacturing industry and oil companies. Pretty sure they have the answer but probably they will prefer making no comments.
@@B-A-L If the military could be convinced they needed mag-lev, we'd get it.
@@Karthagast People wonder why our politicians are super-wealthy.
The Spanish AVE (high-speed service) has developed greatly in the past years because Politicians used it to gather votes, i.e., a promise of a new AVE line to a specific town / region would generate high yields on voting from that specific town / region.
Afterwards, came the debt issue. Basically, the actual ridership of those "elections AVE lines" never met the estimations provided by those politicians.
Personally, I think the Spanish Government should increase the highway toll prices - which I will fell indirectly, as I live in Portugal, and many freight has to come from or through Spain.
By doing so, the Spanish people would weigh their options, and possibly choose train as their main mean of long distance transport.
Moreover, additional charges to enter the city - e.g., London - would increase the ridership on commute routes, which would have a positive effect on both ridership and the environment, especially on those cities which adopted the charge.
As a Portuguese, I would love to see a video on the Portuguese train network!
Cheers!
Exacto.
Es mejor una red convencional que permita velocidades de entre 180 - 220 km/h y la alta velocidad dejarla sólo para interconectar las principales ciudades del país.
I'm only going to say R3 Catalonia is always late
= TIEMPO ESTIMADO,
EN UNAS TRES HORAS,
Y QUINCE MINUTOS.
= 3 : 15 * 15 : 15 = LAS TRES Y QUINCE.
The gauge
T'he good as your Saïd . Nit that worsts is s'hort distancez
5:18 - *in the European Union, not in Europe.
you didn't talk about Pyrenees lines such as Pau-Confranc
I'm from spain and the tickets are really expensive.
Expensive? You are very poor then.
@@IrreverenteII 50- 80 euros 400 kms is expensive in spain. The treins aren't full people because of this. Maybe you're rich and you can do whatever you want.
@@joesbo9491 50€ 400Km is expensive? Have you ever tried to do it by car? Quite clear you have no clue you are talking about.
@@IrreverenteII you can find the information in renfe website, the lower price Madrid to Alicante for next Thursday is 55 euros at 7:00 am. The others treins cost 70, 79 or 65, but you have to come back to your home, so you have to add 60 or 70 or 80 euros more. If you take a plain Madrid to Berlin or london or wherever capital city can cost only 50 euros round trip. And they are 2000 or 3000 kms awy. That’s the point
@@IrreverenteII Murcia - Madrid round trip is around 120€, more than if you go by car. Let's not talk about if you don't travel alone. I agree it is expensive and it is the reason I personally don't use it. I only use it if I am going to take a plane.
Short answer: el ceceo
@Koke Garcia abi, ana dilim ispanyolca değil hahah sadece birazcık dalga geçmek istedim
Are you going to make the evolution of Italian trains?
Yes
In 1805 Spain had the second largest defense Fleet in the World after the UK, so 90% of the World was in worse economic shape than Spain. In fact, before the Spanish Civil War (1936-39) Spain was already among the countries with the highest income per head in the World, with high gold reserves in the Bank of Spain.
Their expensive prices XD
There is a local Public company in Catalonia named Ferrocarrils de la Generalitat de Catalunya