In a battle between frozen ground and the soft tissue in your ankles and knees, its your ankles and knees that give, so its generally regarded as unsafe to play on a frozen pitch - its not just a bit of frost on the grass. As for "how" it was meant to work, car engines get hot when they are running; effectively acting as a radiator placed above the grass. Not massively efficient, but more so than hoping the exhaust does it.
And considering it's been down around 15-17F at night in this area, he'd HAVE to experience it unless he just doesn't touch quite as much grass in the winter.
Zealand has clearly never tried playing on a FROZEN PITCH where it's not just a thin veneer of snow and frost atop the grass, but where the mud and ground itself is frozen solid. It's like trying to play wearing metal studded boots on concrete. No grip, no give in the turf, inhuries aplenty from snapped ankles and solid impacts with the ground. Ref wasn't fun police here, ref was doing their job and did the right thing.
Back when I was in education still in the 2000's, I cant even remember if it was rugby or football we were playing, but the ground was frozen solid much like this, yet we still had to wear our proper studded boots, not the flimsy rubber/plastic ones. Basically nobody could run at all since the studs couldnt even dig into the dirt a tiny bit. I ended up with a broken wrist after being challenged and taken to ground. Only *then* did the teachers say "oh maybe it is too dangerous, lets go inside". My wrist swelled up like a balloon by the time the teacher let me call home and get my mother to take me to the hosp. Frozen pitch is no joke, there are exactly 2 things you dont gamble in life. Health, and money you cant afford to lose. Risking harm to play a game just isnt sensible, and i doubt any revenue lost is going to be the difference between someone going hungry or not. They had an idea and tried to make it work, cant blame 'em for trying.
The issue isn't the frozen grasss, but more the ground. Its going to be like concrete and that is not going to be good for the players. Also, sod Bognor, up the Rebels (Worthing FC also go by the Mackerel Men but that sounds daft)
The crispy grass thing wouldn’t have been an issue If the pitch is deemed frozen the actual ground will be frozen causing safety concerns as studs may not actually go into the ground
If Zealand had been in England this past week I would suggest he put his boots on found a local pitch to run around by himself on so he could decide for himself how safe it is to try and do anything on ground that's frozen solid.
The ground is saturated with water. Like you said, “it rains a lot in winter”. So its not ice on the grass, the ground is literally frozen. It is hard as a rock, thus dangerous if you fall on it especially if you hit your head on the ground.
We once tried to play a rugby match on a frozen pitch. Needless to say after 5 injuries (3 from my team and 2 from our opponents) the match was finally cancelled. I would rather play in a on a flooded pitch than a frozen one, any day of the week.
Crazy how he has no idea that frozen ground means the ground is like concrete, and is incredibly dangerous to play football on. The cars are trying to heat up the ground and soften the mud and grass so the game to go on.
Not crazy, he's Murican..... sure, most of the time the only Murican thing about him is the accent, but here the ignorance and I-know-more-than-you is shining through...
@@McPilch My serious only thought is that he's only played outdoor soccer in the winter when he was back in Florida. Now that he's in NYC, he probably doesn't play outdoors on natural grass that often, especially in winter. It's actually probably been colder here than in England, but there's so much concrete and so little grass in NYC that it probably just isn't something he's done. Because I'm 'Murican, and from Zealand's general area, and I never even played soccer... but I looked at this and went "Hell no, if that's anything like my lawn, it's like an absolute ROCK right now." Z missed the target like Darwin Nunez with an open net.
as Bognor Regis eluded to with the "seeking a 3G pitch comment," it's not so much the grass being icy as much as its the soil/mud underneath being frozen. To put it in very vague and not super correlated NFL terms, it would be like telling the Bills that their home games in December and January have to be played in trainers, not cleats.
Sorry Z you showed your inner American here..😂 they’re trying to thaw the actual ground as it’s frozen solid. It would be like playing on concrete. The car thing is using the residual heat of the car to thaw the ground below, it can be frosted and soft, but you can’t play on frozen solid ground
It’s been -6 overnight recently. The ground is frozen and rock hard. As someone who made the mistake of trying to play on a pitch like this in my youth, the pitch wins that one.
Frozen pitches call off matches in the lower leagues and non-league all the time. I once played on a frozen pitch when I was at school and 3 players broke bones in a 30 minute each-way match. I broke my ankle, then one player broke a shoulder and another a wrist.
England/Britain not getting as much snow or sub-zero weather is due to a little think called the Gulf Stream, that makes it warmer than other places in the same latitude. And that's the problem - the fact that it only ever hovers around zero degrees, the snow melts into the ground and then freezes when it gets colder again. Not just the grass - it freezes a good amount of the soil, and that gets basically as hard as concrete. You can play on frosty grass. You can't play on frozen ground because it's just not safe.
As someone who recently moved up north and experienced the recent snow / ice storm for the first time I can see why they do this. I was walking around in my back yard and one of my first reactions was "This ground is so hard, being a keeper on this would be awful"
The problem is the Turf won't take a stud. That coastal town pitch will be frozen solid, this is why most higher level pitches in Britain have Undersoil heating. You started well these pitches are designed to handle water not low temperatures. All that water that has been soaked up and drawn from the surface has now frozen. Most of the Non-league schedule this weekend looks like it was abandoned Friday, Says a lot about the Bognor Regis grounds team they believed they could get the game on.
Our winters may not get significant snowfall for the most part. But ice is a common problem and scores of matches in non league are at constant risk of postponement in winter. This situation is very common and more or less accepted to happen from time to time
1) increasingly, we are getting more big freezes in the winter. You're right that the gulf stream makes us warmer than our latitude should be, but we do get freezing temperatures. 2) we're in one such big freeze right now, parts of Scotland almost got to -20c recently, the north has been particularly affected 3) as others have pointed out, it's the fact the ground is frozen, not just that there's ice on the pitch. Studs won't sink in, it's hard as concrete, and any ridges in the mud become frozen mud blades that'll rip you to shreds!
History fact for Z. Apparently King George V on being told he was being sent to Bognor Regis, a seaside resort town, to recover from his illness, replied “Bugger Bognor”, closed his eyes and promptly died.
Leaf blower blows air from around it. Exhaust comes of out a VERY hot engine. There's a clear line of demarcation between frost(left side, but starting right of the cars) and sunny Florida grass on the right. I do agree if they had waited like half an hour to an hour they would have been fine.
There's heaps of matches called off due to frozen pitches.... also, snow exists, last two Anfield games had snow piled onto side of pitch... Zealand is a very worldly Murican.. yet compared to the average non-Murican, he's still pretty darn Floridian 😂
Credit to Bognor Regis Town for trying to get the game played. The referee made the correct decision as player safety is their number one priority. One of the 25 people on the pitch at the start of the game would have been seriously injured fairly soon after kick off on that pitch. Everyone involved in that game, and many others that were postponed this weekend, are either in full time education or paid employment outside football. For those in paid employment it could lead to a loss of earnings or even put their job in jeopardy.
As someone who has been in the UK many times and lives very close to it: The UK not having a winter break isn't because they don't have a reason to, it's because they are insane.
I had to call a match of weekend just gone. Even if the frost melts in the sunlight you've still got frozen ground, and the temperatures over the weekend weren't getting high enough (1°C on Saturday, 0°C on Sunday) to thaw it. Had to use the old 'lighter on the padlock' trick to even access the pitch to do an inspection. All 8 matches in our 1st teams division were called off for frozen pitches, and the only 2 matches (of 8) in our reserves division that went ahead were on 3G pitches, one of which was rented from a school because the clubs pitch was frozen.
We've had a lot of snow recently, that and flooding across the country. I think we had - 18°c some nights in places so everything is frozen up and having black outs including in manchester. Been pretty bad weather and in the uk we arent prepared for super low constant temps (even though 50+ years ago we still had outside toilets etc) or hot temps (30°c +).
As a Swede I am confused by all of this. It takes days for the ground to freeze, did nobody notice and it takes days for it to thaw. So how frozen can it be if you think a car motor will solve it? Equator adjacent islander ;-) Solution used in the nordics: fill the pitch with water and play ice-hockey.
We had a game called off once for the ground being too hard, I tried to convince the referee it was ok and I was the away goalkeeper, I was the one diving on it, didn't convince the referee but we still played a friendly game against each other on the pitch without the referee anyway
This reminds me of a game i played here in norway when i was like 14-15. there was a lot of ice on about a quarter of the pitch from the corner flag to the box and all the way up to the midfield. Our coach came up with the genius strat for our 4-3-3. he realised no one was going to be able to run down that icy side of the pitch so in the first half we defended with 3 cb and a lb and just left the icy right side open, in the second half we had 2 strikers and a right winger. 😂
Frozen grass on the touchline, linesmen and players break ankle, club gets sued! You ever played on a deeply frozen pitch, where the ground is like concrete? F’ing dangerous, Zealand, never mind knowing bugger all about English weather.
#1 it's pronounced*bog-na Regis #2 the Floridian shows lol frozen ground is like sand paper and it's not just surface level the soil is frozen as well. Hope this helps love your vids
Zealand need to start playing football ⚽⚽. He talks like someone who never played or just don't know this weather condition on feets, ankles, knees is just dangerous 😂
So to put it simply: have you ever been to an Ice skating ring? Imagine instead of goinf with some skates you went in with studs. Wouldn't work. What I find interesting is them thinking that leaving the cars there for a while would do enough to defrost it for the full 90 minutes+half time of the game. Surely even if it worked it would refreeze after like 15' with no cars on top, right?
Can we have a video about the Floridian in this video not understanding the ground is frozen, that engines are warm and Scotland has a mountain range for skiing 😅 love ya buddy but big miss here
I'd rather play on actual concrete than a frozen pitch. At least concrete is flat and, if you're not wearing studs, you can get some grip on it. Still not safe, but not as bad as frozen turf & mud.
I'm fascinated by the difference in thinking here. There is no 'no fun league' that pitch is completely unplayable. They are all doing their best but nobody would be arguing with the ref on this one. Do pitches not freeze like this everywhere in the world? Is it an irrigation thing?
Simple answer Studs frozen mud Studs would slip and by the rules players must have football boots on. you completely missed the point its not the grass its the mud
Just because I'm sure you appreciate your pronounciation being corrected... it's not bog-nor it's bog-na (well kinda, it's much less emphasis on the 'or' part as you did)
Sometimes, a little research before making a video would be nice. There have been numerous videos where a little bit of research would reveal that what you're making a video about is a non-issue.
Laughing at all the people in the comments talking about how dangerous it is to play soccer in the cold when i just watched 2 teams play tackle football in -2°c two hours ago
As everyone else has said, it's not the temperature (and even if it was, lets not forget the NFL players have heated benches to sit on when their not on the field), it's the fact that the soil is frozen
Learned a lot from people who grew up in cold places today
In a battle between frozen ground and the soft tissue in your ankles and knees, its your ankles and knees that give, so its generally regarded as unsafe to play on a frozen pitch - its not just a bit of frost on the grass. As for "how" it was meant to work, car engines get hot when they are running; effectively acting as a radiator placed above the grass. Not massively efficient, but more so than hoping the exhaust does it.
i honestly cant wait for zealand(ism) to read this comment section and come out with a 24 minute ukulele style apology video singing about loans.
It’s not frost, the ground would be frozen solid and not taking a stud making it unsafe
You can tell this guy has never seen frozen mud 😂
And considering it's been down around 15-17F at night in this area, he'd HAVE to experience it unless he just doesn't touch quite as much grass in the winter.
Zealand lives in Florida, so he won't see much
Just leaf blower the ice mate😂
@@malochite he's been on the run enough he should know. But the Floridian brain - it can not comprehend frozen mud, even when we see it.
Zealand has clearly never tried playing on a FROZEN PITCH where it's not just a thin veneer of snow and frost atop the grass, but where the mud and ground itself is frozen solid.
It's like trying to play wearing metal studded boots on concrete. No grip, no give in the turf, inhuries aplenty from snapped ankles and solid impacts with the ground.
Ref wasn't fun police here, ref was doing their job and did the right thing.
Zealand letting his ignorant I-know-more-than-you Murican side come through here...
just explain it to him that it's like playing a game at MetLife Stadium (where the Giants and Jets play). torn ACLs guaranteed!
Back when I was in education still in the 2000's, I cant even remember if it was rugby or football we were playing, but the ground was frozen solid much like this, yet we still had to wear our proper studded boots, not the flimsy rubber/plastic ones. Basically nobody could run at all since the studs couldnt even dig into the dirt a tiny bit. I ended up with a broken wrist after being challenged and taken to ground. Only *then* did the teachers say "oh maybe it is too dangerous, lets go inside". My wrist swelled up like a balloon by the time the teacher let me call home and get my mother to take me to the hosp. Frozen pitch is no joke, there are exactly 2 things you dont gamble in life. Health, and money you cant afford to lose. Risking harm to play a game just isnt sensible, and i doubt any revenue lost is going to be the difference between someone going hungry or not. They had an idea and tried to make it work, cant blame 'em for trying.
If the ground is frozen, you'll break your ankles ;) ... especially on a field that might not be of Wembley standard.
the ground itself isnt just frosty the mud will be frozen solid and studs wont go into it, broken ankle waiting to happen
The issue isn't the frozen grasss, but more the ground. Its going to be like concrete and that is not going to be good for the players.
Also, sod Bognor, up the Rebels (Worthing FC also go by the Mackerel Men but that sounds daft)
The crispy grass thing wouldn’t have been an issue
If the pitch is deemed frozen the actual ground will be frozen causing safety concerns as studs may not actually go into the ground
the water in the ground itself froze. its like playing on a grassy ice rink
If Zealand had been in England this past week I would suggest he put his boots on found a local pitch to run around by himself on so he could decide for himself how safe it is to try and do anything on ground that's frozen solid.
The ground is saturated with water.
Like you said, “it rains a lot in winter”.
So its not ice on the grass, the ground is literally frozen.
It is hard as a rock, thus dangerous if you fall on it especially if you hit your head on the ground.
We once tried to play a rugby match on a frozen pitch.
Needless to say after 5 injuries (3 from my team and 2 from our opponents) the match was finally cancelled.
I would rather play in a on a flooded pitch than a frozen one, any day of the week.
Crazy how he has no idea that frozen ground means the ground is like concrete, and is incredibly dangerous to play football on. The cars are trying to heat up the ground and soften the mud and grass so the game to go on.
Not crazy, he's Murican..... sure, most of the time the only Murican thing about him is the accent, but here the ignorance and I-know-more-than-you is shining through...
@@McPilch My serious only thought is that he's only played outdoor soccer in the winter when he was back in Florida. Now that he's in NYC, he probably doesn't play outdoors on natural grass that often, especially in winter. It's actually probably been colder here than in England, but there's so much concrete and so little grass in NYC that it probably just isn't something he's done. Because I'm 'Murican, and from Zealand's general area, and I never even played soccer... but I looked at this and went "Hell no, if that's anything like my lawn, it's like an absolute ROCK right now." Z missed the target like Darwin Nunez with an open net.
as Bognor Regis eluded to with the "seeking a 3G pitch comment," it's not so much the grass being icy as much as its the soil/mud underneath being frozen. To put it in very vague and not super correlated NFL terms, it would be like telling the Bills that their home games in December and January have to be played in trainers, not cleats.
Sorry Z you showed your inner American here..😂 they’re trying to thaw the actual ground as it’s frozen solid. It would be like playing on concrete. The car thing is using the residual heat of the car to thaw the ground below, it can be frosted and soft, but you can’t play on frozen solid ground
More like Sun Belt energy, you can see New Yorkers in the comments figuring this out in 5 seconds
It’s been -6 overnight recently. The ground is frozen and rock hard. As someone who made the mistake of trying to play on a pitch like this in my youth, the pitch wins that one.
Frozen pitches call off matches in the lower leagues and non-league all the time.
I once played on a frozen pitch when I was at school and 3 players broke bones in a 30 minute each-way match. I broke my ankle, then one player broke a shoulder and another a wrist.
England/Britain not getting as much snow or sub-zero weather is due to a little think called the Gulf Stream, that makes it warmer than other places in the same latitude. And that's the problem - the fact that it only ever hovers around zero degrees, the snow melts into the ground and then freezes when it gets colder again. Not just the grass - it freezes a good amount of the soil, and that gets basically as hard as concrete. You can play on frosty grass. You can't play on frozen ground because it's just not safe.
Spot on. For example, Manchester is further north than Vladivostock.
As someone who recently moved up north and experienced the recent snow / ice storm for the first time I can see why they do this. I was walking around in my back yard and one of my first reactions was "This ground is so hard, being a keeper on this would be awful"
first time i see bognar regis mentioned outside TLR
Well I never thought I'd see the day Zealand would be talking about Bognor or Nyewood Lane (or as it's colloquially known, the Nye Camp)
The problem is the Turf won't take a stud. That coastal town pitch will be frozen solid, this is why most higher level pitches in Britain have Undersoil heating. You started well these pitches are designed to handle water not low temperatures. All that water that has been soaked up and drawn from the surface has now frozen. Most of the Non-league schedule this weekend looks like it was abandoned Friday, Says a lot about the Bognor Regis grounds team they believed they could get the game on.
Our winters may not get significant snowfall for the most part. But ice is a common problem and scores of matches in non league are at constant risk of postponement in winter. This situation is very common and more or less accepted to happen from time to time
1) increasingly, we are getting more big freezes in the winter. You're right that the gulf stream makes us warmer than our latitude should be, but we do get freezing temperatures.
2) we're in one such big freeze right now, parts of Scotland almost got to -20c recently, the north has been particularly affected
3) as others have pointed out, it's the fact the ground is frozen, not just that there's ice on the pitch. Studs won't sink in, it's hard as concrete, and any ridges in the mud become frozen mud blades that'll rip you to shreds!
Forget parking the bus, that image looks like they're parking the entire highway
Never realised how much I wanted to hear Zealand say "Bognor Regis"
I've sprained more than one ankle on a frozen pitch!
The only nonsense non league game was tamworth vs Tottenham.
Zealand, your American is showing...
History fact for Z. Apparently King George V on being told he was being sent to Bognor Regis, a seaside resort town, to recover from his illness, replied “Bugger Bognor”, closed his eyes and promptly died.
Leaf blower blows air from around it. Exhaust comes of out a VERY hot engine. There's a clear line of demarcation between frost(left side, but starting right of the cars) and sunny Florida grass on the right. I do agree if they had waited like half an hour to an hour they would have been fine.
There's heaps of matches called off due to frozen pitches.... also, snow exists, last two Anfield games had snow piled onto side of pitch...
Zealand is a very worldly Murican.. yet compared to the average non-Murican, he's still pretty darn Floridian 😂
4:20 "Ice and snow are not really a part of the English existence"
Me looking at my car this morning: 🥶😑😑
I wish, Z. I wish 😅
Credit to Bognor Regis Town for trying to get the game played. The referee made the correct decision as player safety is their number one priority. One of the 25 people on the pitch at the start of the game would have been seriously injured fairly soon after kick off on that pitch. Everyone involved in that game, and many others that were postponed this weekend, are either in full time education or paid employment outside football. For those in paid employment it could lead to a loss of earnings or even put their job in jeopardy.
As someone who has been in the UK many times and lives very close to it: The UK not having a winter break isn't because they don't have a reason to, it's because they are insane.
The ground itself is frozen solid. I broke my wrist on this once after falling awkwardly, it's no joke. 😑
Florida man discovers winter
Lewis Dunk played for bognar regis, in 2010 on loan from brighton
That would’ve been like playing on concrete
I had to call a match of weekend just gone. Even if the frost melts in the sunlight you've still got frozen ground, and the temperatures over the weekend weren't getting high enough (1°C on Saturday, 0°C on Sunday) to thaw it.
Had to use the old 'lighter on the padlock' trick to even access the pitch to do an inspection.
All 8 matches in our 1st teams division were called off for frozen pitches, and the only 2 matches (of 8) in our reserves division that went ahead were on 3G pitches, one of which was rented from a school because the clubs pitch was frozen.
We've had a lot of snow recently, that and flooding across the country. I think we had - 18°c some nights in places so everything is frozen up and having black outs including in manchester. Been pretty bad weather and in the uk we arent prepared for super low constant temps (even though 50+ years ago we still had outside toilets etc) or hot temps (30°c +).
It's been below 0 all last week. And it's freezing ground. It happens often with no undersoil heating.
As a Swede I am confused by all of this. It takes days for the ground to freeze, did nobody notice and it takes days for it to thaw. So how frozen can it be if you think a car motor will solve it? Equator adjacent islander ;-) Solution used in the nordics: fill the pitch with water and play ice-hockey.
you can't leafblower frost
You can’t dust vomit for fingerprints
We had a game called off once for the ground being too hard, I tried to convince the referee it was ok and I was the away goalkeeper, I was the one diving on it, didn't convince the referee but we still played a friendly game against each other on the pitch without the referee anyway
This reminds me of a game i played here in norway when i was like 14-15. there was a lot of ice on about a quarter of the pitch from the corner flag to the box and all the way up to the midfield. Our coach came up with the genius strat for our 4-3-3. he realised no one was going to be able to run down that icy side of the pitch so in the first half we defended with 3 cb and a lb and just left the icy right side open, in the second half we had 2 strikers and a right winger. 😂
There certainly was non league nonsense today...
1st Goes up
2nd to 5th is Playoffs. Two in total go up to the NLS
As funny as the car thing is, apparently it’s worked before 😂
The Brits will always problem solve.
Frozen grass on the touchline, linesmen and players break ankle, club gets sued! You ever played on a deeply frozen pitch, where the ground is like concrete? F’ing dangerous, Zealand, never mind knowing bugger all about English weather.
The sun shines in the Arctic shouldn't that be defrosted aswell Zealand?
Tropical boy has never played in -3 lmao
#1 it's pronounced*bog-na Regis
#2 the Floridian shows lol frozen ground is like sand paper and it's not just surface level the soil is frozen as well. Hope this helps love your vids
Zealand would you dive on concrete to save a shot? 🤔🤣
I’m a huge fan of the leaf blower method
Zealand need to start playing football ⚽⚽. He talks like someone who never played or just don't know this weather condition on feets, ankles, knees is just dangerous 😂
So to put it simply: have you ever been to an Ice skating ring? Imagine instead of goinf with some skates you went in with studs. Wouldn't work.
What I find interesting is them thinking that leaving the cars there for a while would do enough to defrost it for the full 90 minutes+half time of the game. Surely even if it worked it would refreeze after like 15' with no cars on top, right?
Can we have a video about the Floridian in this video not understanding the ground is frozen, that engines are warm and Scotland has a mountain range for skiing 😅 love ya buddy but big miss here
I'll have you know we have a Snozone in Milton Keynes lol
I'd rather play on actual concrete than a frozen pitch. At least concrete is flat and, if you're not wearing studs, you can get some grip on it. Still not safe, but not as bad as frozen turf & mud.
Chopped chin!
I have a lot of thawhts
Speaking of nonsense, KAI HARVERTZ RABBIT HOLE WHEN???
I'm fascinated by the difference in thinking here. There is no 'no fun league' that pitch is completely unplayable. They are all doing their best but nobody would be arguing with the ref on this one. Do pitches not freeze like this everywhere in the world? Is it an irrigation thing?
Can haaland do it on a cold rainy night in neywood lane🥶🥶
you should check the spanish supercup final
Simple answer Studs frozen mud Studs would slip and by the rules players must have football boots on. you completely missed the point its not the grass its the mud
The first bit of nonsense on this video was "reverse-matriculate".
L all round here my dude, still funny though xD
Obligatory forehead comment
14 seconds baby
Scottish weather is NOTHING like English weather.
Zealand, go spend winter on the Highlands or the Hebrides then come back and talk about weather.
Just because I'm sure you appreciate your pronounciation being corrected... it's not bog-nor it's bog-na (well kinda, it's much less emphasis on the 'or' part as you did)
Sometimes, a little research before making a video would be nice. There have been numerous videos where a little bit of research would reveal that what you're making a video about is a non-issue.
3 likes in 1 minute? Z fell off
Laughing at all the people in the comments talking about how dangerous it is to play soccer in the cold when i just watched 2 teams play tackle football in -2°c two hours ago
As everyone else has said, it's not the temperature (and even if it was, lets not forget the NFL players have heated benches to sit on when their not on the field), it's the fact that the soil is frozen
@NeverLikely brother the soil is frozen in Philadelphia rn too
You lost any amount of credibility in knowing what you're talking about here as soon as you said the word soccer.
@@gabeh.4297 considering your style of football means you're padded up more than a nutter in an asylum, this isn't the flex you think it is
The pitches are also heated from below meaning the soil is not frozen no matter the temperature of the air. Which is the danger here @@NeverLikely