twelve o'clock high : S2E19 Which Way The Wind Blows
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Twelve O'Clock High is an American drama series set in World War II. This TV series originally broadcast on ABC-TV for two-and-one-half TV seasons from September 18, 1964, through January 13, 1967; was based on the motion picture Twelve O'Clock High (1949).
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My dad flew missions with the 8th army air corps. He was a real man that loved life and taught me to always do the best I can no matter the job. I miss you dad I love ya
You dad was a man of men the best kind of American that has ever been.
My dad tried all four branches, Coast Guard, Marines, Army and Navy. He was getting his hair cut off when the barber caught his left side speaking to him but my dad didn't realize until too late. He had major hearing loss in his left ear. They HAD no choice but to turn him down. He worked in the Passkigula (Misp), MS ship yard for the duration of the war building mostly Liberty ships! He lost many friends and relatives in WWII. Married right after the war to start a family. Lost his wife in less than a year to Cancer. I tried to ask what type of cancer 25 years later and he still could not talk in any details. Too painful. We had just lost my mother four months before!! A lot of loss and pain for one generation! Thanks to your father's and families for their service and support!
There are fewer and fewer real men alive today. It makes me sad to see all of the weirdo's men parading around in dresses calling themselves women. Makes me sick!
We had a good friend who was a B-17 instructor pilot in WWII. He said they were given wornout birds just returned from combat, which made transition training interesting. Like the captain of the weather ship, he made several belly landings, one of them on a golf course. The accident rate was so high that he yearned for a combat assignment. Over twenty years later he walked away from another crash, this one just a couple of miles from our home. His son-in-law was flying a brand new Piper Cherokee 140 with him, his son, and another kid aboard. The engine quit on takeoff just above the trees and beyond the field. His son-in-law was a new pilot, and froze as the plane began to stall. Gene grabbed the yoke, just missed one tall tree, then stalled the plane right above some other trees. The Cherokee feel through them, snapped off its wings, and crumpled to the ground. The only piece still intact was the cockpit. Miraculously, they were all able to crawl away from the wreckage. I hiked in with my Dad to examine the wreckage. It was quite an accomplishment based on flying skills learned in WWII.
Great account. Your friend was the warrior. Someone I would have confidence flying along. Thank you for sharing. I sense your friend was an extraordinary man, and likely in many ways.
Whew, you gave me chills mentioning that incredible "crawl away crash" in a Cessna 140. I flew 40 hours in the 140, got heat stroke in my last solo, the triangulation, no AC in July, Texas. Because I was not obsessing with procedure I slicked it in the short grass field at Burdett.
@@carolecarr5210 It was a Piper 140 (Cherokee) withe tricycle landing gear. The Cessna 140 is a tail dragger.
i was a small kid when this show came out but i never for got the song it has been in my head for years im 65 and i was just a young boy then this show hit the tv but i lke them alot
This show was much better than often depicted. While not all of the shows were good, many were good to excellent. War is much more than firing guns and dropping bombs. It was about the men who were sent out to do a job, the officers who had to make decisions to ask men to put their life on the line. Lets not forget the mechanics who were often required to do the impossible and keep planes flying with minimal supplies and parts.
I have often wonder what I would have done if I was a young man during the war. Would I have been a pilot, gunner, or aircraft mechanic? If I was an officer, would I have been someone with the horrible responsibility of put kids into harms way. I agree with the idea that the men and women of WWII where the greatest generation we have ever known.
"Sir, isn;t that uncalled for.." said no lieutenant ever to any general about any colonel
I like to try to remember some of these actor's and what other TV shows I'd seen them on before.
Robert Lansing(General Savage) played Gary 7 in "Assignment Earth ", a STAR TREK episode and unsold series pilot.
The "charming Colonel" scored major points with cuddling crash position.
We should have a Stand Down, for the last man standing - World War II. Remember last man standing for the Civil War departed in the 1920's . . . this activity would enhance the patriotism, of our countries veterans ! 🇺🇸
I like the idea of the stand down. The last man standing for the Civil War died in 1953. Hard to believe yes, but true, it was James Albert Hard, the last Union combat veteran of the Civil War. He was 112. The WW2 guys are almost gone. I’d sure like to know what WW2 8th Air Force survivors might still be out there.
Love this show keep it on you tube
Dina Merrill was stunningly beautiful.
I still miss General Savage.
Yes but there is some compensation in the frequent appearances of Sgt. Kamanski LOL
@@dindinprivate3477 Komanski is no match for General Savage. No one is.
@@mariakelly5 Agreed he is no match, but is great to see in his own right. A good actor, a good looking man and a well written and developed ''character".
Maria Kelly ikr.... HE WAS " 12o' clock High"!!👍👍
Maria Kelly ha. The General was a hard. Act to follow
Great to see a Grumman Albatross, but it arrived 4+ yrs before starting service.
Hollywood. Go figure.
Harder to keep a stable of old airplanes than old cars. Both are expensive. A PBY would have looked nice.
82Echo411 My uncle once told me about the secret groups of PBY "Black Cats" in the Pacific. More unsong heros !
Just checked Google - lots of good hits for "Black Cats" PBYs including 1 YT video which I haven't checked out yet. I probably remember the "Black Cats" from an out of print series of British books on world aircraft. They had copies of the ID silhouette cards + production & squadron data. One of the author's last names was Green. Fortunately or unfortunately I think the collectors market got them reprinted in large format & $$$ price.
Always nice to see Dina Merrill.
She was easy on the eye. A very fine actress. And a very, very wealthy woman who never needed to work.
Damn, I told them boys to move those tents away from that runway several episodes ago !!!!
They NEVER listen!
Chris Robinson is the only one still living from this series and he is in his 80s.
Bob was Gallagher's regular most co pilot. Great to see some consistency.
Yes, indeed.
"Bob" was his real name." Robert K. Dornan was a pilot in real life and a WWII veteran. He became a Congressman and was a staunch supporter of the Armed Forces, advocating for the B-1 bomber so loudly he acquired the nickname "B-1 Bob Dornan." Later he became a talk show host.
On this and other episodes, they show sn HU-16 Albaross as the rescue aircraft. In reality it first flew in 1947. The more likely option would have been sa PBY Catalina which Americans and British both flew. The other possibility would have been a Shorts seaplane of British design and manufacture. One was used in an Indiana Jones movie and was actually a static display being restored at the Air Museum in Oakland CA.
A very good episode despite the 'romantic' issues.
too much romance for real war time active service personell...
Do emotions, win wars ?
I feel like every other episode Gallagher is shacking up with some chick. Wish they didn’t have so much romance in episodes
QM shows could often play up the "romance" as part of QMs "people's stories". Maybe more of this on 12 Oclock this season in the attempt to widen the viewer base in this "make or break" remodeled season. It's Monday 730 this year and the series was attempting to court more women for the audience. Though Combat (also 730) from another production company did not go after the femme audience; it relied almost entirely on the "family male demographic". QM also had quite a guest star stable including many actresses.
Seriously, as this series progresses the plots become more and more romanticized and unbelievable. You just can't make the movie into an ongoing series.
Seems every episode starts with the guys on a bombing mission or returning from a mission. I like that.
that weather pilot , was right on top of his game
...apart from accepting a tail wind by taking runway 03 with a SE wind. Should have used runway 21.
Thank you for posting.
Mistake at 37:00 with the USAF plane. Says USAirForce on a Grumman Albatross plane that was not put into service until 1949.😖
Opening scene....where are the P51s for long range fighter cover? They were introduced in episode six, second season.
They are still mad at the 918th for shooting one down.
These B-17s are F models. No chin turret. The Mustangs arrived about the time the G model was introduced.
@@shimshonbendan8730 The time period would have been about mid to late 1943 P51's were starting to show up about late 43. Air-sea rescue would have had possibly US PBY Catalina's and British air-sea rescue would have used Catalina's and Short Sunderlands for their range.
So much about weather after so many missions. Just reschedule to a better day. CPT Biggs is a woman. Every man is stunned.
lol, "If he just gets rid of the old technique, it may help."
'USAF' wouldn't occur until '47.
Haha. They missed that one. It was the Army Air Corps
There's no way any good pilot would purposely fly through a big thunderstorm. Especially not with a normally built aircraft. Hurricane hunters are strengthened. I'm a retired airline pilot and we did everything we could to avoid storms. Like many things in this series, just not right. But 1960s tv was much different than now!
nice to see that :) i am about to become an airline pilot. almost done with my flight training :) just finishing my ATPL theory. cheers to you from Germany
Michael Jackson this is hollywierd....
I flew with my parents to Germany in a prophet in 1964 I was 9 we flew through a storm and dropped more than once ,I recall Greenland being a point of interest as it was mentioned over the intercom , pilot to crew,I believe my mother was on edge as ocean through clouds was the prominent view.
I'm able to spell propjet, though a Moto can't, how often these smart phones can't spell beyond the eighth grade is many times seventy.
Mark, I agree. I can't use the voice mic to text. It would get me band from Utude and most my friends. On manual text, it seems to have a mind of its own!
Meteorology meets Biology meets Science meets Warfare...
He just joined the mile high club.. Thats just a little turbulence boys..
The code breakers at Bletchley Park, regularly broke the German weather reports. Giving the allied airforces unprecedented weather forecasting abilities.
Lest we forget those heroes!
the copilot says look a that airspeed. A tail wind would only effect ground speed not airspeed.
Definition of an expert = a guy that's more than 50 miles from home. LOL
Are they Flying Through a 50K foot + tower of 70+knot up and down drafts, wind shear, extreme temperature shifts and electrical charges. That's Never been a good idea and STILL isn't in my book. Even as advanced and modified as some of my old C-130's were, the crews never found it to be a good idea for Any reason. . . Except under direct orders.
which also isnt a good reason ;) greeting from Germany, and many happy landings if you still fly, i just began my aviationcareer
The P-51 Mustang became fighter escort along with the P-47 Thunderbolt and the P-38 lightning ,long range fighter escort late in 1943 till the end of the war ..
Long range fighters carried drop tanks
@@paulgerald5808 The major things I want to find out is what was the holdup developing drop tanks and why wasn't air to air refueling farther along in development? Seem both would have been game changers before and during the early days of war?????
It was the most interesting story about using weather.
Joe wins the war again. As in every episode.
There is no way that weather plane would have been without an escory at least part of the way.
I'm understanding this now. Definitely.
United State Army Air forces South West Pacific Area 1942-1946
Same 60s style hairstyles on the women it's 1944 directors, producers, writers.
We know! Get over it!
I know, my wife said there were no '40's hairstylists in the '60's. That's what all of the Johnson sisters did and they were really good!!!
I guess every woman said NO to the 40's hair styles.
"theoretical dinner ". 😆🤣😂
lol on the flying boat showing post WWII insignia and USAF instead of USAAF or USN which is what it shud have been
You are correct in your statement but remember this movie town USA and sometimes when these were made this equipment in aircraft was not available ,used footage from film that was archived by the military
Paul Gerald
Appreciate your answer. The show --- and others--- use what stock footage is available.
This must be one of the worst/weakest episodes in the series.
Bringing a scatty, irrational woman into a war drama is bound to end up wet as a rainy weekend.
is this how the hurricane hunters started ?
It’s official..Gallagher is one hell of a dog! He tells the copilot to crash land the plane so he can get cozy with the good looking gal in the back! 🤦♂️
Looks like the USAF went back in time to do this rescue in an Albatross....
wonder how many
live BOMBS are in
that channel still??
Weed Me
If they were armed when dropped they should have went off
So, what would happen if Hollywood tried to do a one-off movie remake of the original novel the series is based on? The original movie was made in 1949, there were still a lot of flyable 17's left back then. You probably could count the operable ones today on one hand. The TV show's main aircraft, "Piccadilly Lilly" (which had more lives than a cat in the TV show) exists on display at the airport in Chino, CA, needing about $2Mil in restoration work to operate again. Another one was lost to gross negligence in CT last Fall (I read the preliminary NTSB findings). The group that owned it should probably never be allowed to fly one again. Anyway, perhaps with modern movie-making techniques and production sensibilities it might be possible to do justice to the material. They remake a bunch of bad old movies all the time, maybe they should try this story again.
The novel was a collection of reality based stuff mind you, including the movie's opening scene of the b17 landing, and the combat report in interrogation
I can only imagine what Hollywood would do to something like this. General Savage the secret Gay commander of the 918th. Race swapping. English women being raped by evil drunken American soldiers. Yeah today’s Hollywood would have a grand time with this show.
This happened in another episode and the pilot was court martialed for turning back.
Ditched in the ocean but didn't get wet. Really ?
At 36:52 that plane has usaf markings. blooper!
Old Wofhound-Thanks for your service from another Old Wolfhound.
They used dry water.
@@robertkelley4991 or very good waterproofing...😊
Most episodes, the co pilot gets wounded or killed….
United States Army Airforce Europe 1942-1946
Why the volume defects. My volume is at max and can barely hear it.🤐🙄
Since when does a Captain call a cornel by their first name?
Since Hollywood ruled the skies.
. . . . that's 'Colonel' !
@@Paladin1873 Right on target ! 🇺🇸
I've seen it. Central Command in Kuwait. JAOC (Joint Air Operations Center) . Air Force, Army, Navy , Marines. SOF and Allies. I was the CSM for PATRIOT Missile Batteries. Daily briefings , Review ACO (Airspace Control Order). Deconflict Air Cooridoors and Air Defense.
The General Staff and Officer's all called each other by first names.
Surprise for me. I just let it go.
I do not think that I could do that with an NCO much less an officer.
42:41 - he said it, he said the thing
ahda boy Joe, get the girl
Dina ❤️
The rescue would more accurately
have been achieved by a Supermarine Walrus...
Shoulder patch United States Army Airforce 8th Airforce the 9th Airforce and the 15th Airforce ..
36:52 Just for fun, "USAF" did not exist before the end of WWII; Established, 18 Sep.1947.
In real WWII life, he would have given her the clap.
Loved Dina Merrill
2:57 SOMEONE should have told him Weather Reports are not really reliable. It is just a chance in peercentage.
That is why high water catastrohies through haevy ran canß´t be avoided because in the case of not happening the community or local authorities had to take the blame not couting the law suits because of lost income and the costs for unnecessary evacuations.
That woman thinks the war is being run at her convenience.
+gallantrycross Isn't that the way women are?
They wanted an expert on the weather. The female Captain IS THE EXPERT. Deal with it.
Plus she admitted she didn't know about WAR!?
@@lkyelberg8255 Still taking the risk, still went up there
Now really, she's a fascinating character and plays well off the Colonel.
I cannot watch anymore. She should be court martialed.
She has no business being an Army Air Corps. Captain after refusing to make a report.
God I hate mush in a war show/movie.
who?
Alternative then might be Rat Patrol...or McHale s Navy.
Silly, an expensive, new concept plane with no fighter protection.
Love all the recycled WWII actual footage
The only thing this episode really needed was A Better Writer... A Better Director... A Batter Production Chief... And a Better Actress than Dina Whatever.
Bill McCune Yes I think they tried a little too much and the females role was demeaning and just dumb
Pretty good points! Thank you.
What he's saying is if there got to be a better show 12 hi
Wah! What is needed is a better critic….🙄
@@maryeverling8238 touche,' my dear! Thanks!! 😅
Get some, Colonel!
By the end of the episode he will.
United States Army Airforces Mediterranean Theatre of Operations ,M T O
Does Gallagher ever get the girl?
👎
That would kill the character and therefore the show
41:10 ok what a BS. the airspeed indicator gives IAS... if you were in a 100kt tail wind for more than 2sec your airspeed would return to the normal IAS since you fly relative to air to keep your lift. your Ground Speed would be greater but you can only measure the GS by using some sort of GPS, measure distance and time or by an observer on the ground that has some sort of speed measurement equipment. NO way they can see it in a B17 in 1944 by only looking at the instruments. sad stuff. this has become such an soap opera, sad. i really liked the first season even though it had its fair share of romantic stuff... this is ridiculous btw how the women behave in this season so far. no wonder i had to take a break of 3months since the last episode. i mean its a great show, it gives a special feeling but i can only take so mich of this...maybe the next episode will be watched in 3months after all.
Back then a navigator had what what was called math, checkpoints, beacons, and compass readings that would allow him to calculate ground speed. Not a bunch of GPS dependent pilots who can't read a chart these days. I agree, the romantic relations in this and every other Hollywood fantasy are ludicrous.
Silly plot..
Gallagher’s lashes seem to grow everytime he looks at a woman. He’s a lady killer. Or a flirt. Savage was more stable and had only 1 love interest.
Weakest episode tol date.
Now, now. An interesting change of pace. Good footage of the rescue aircraft too.
Woman wants to get married and set up house, Gallagher wants to go on a mission. LOL!
A
Women's lib propaganda film.
_eyroll_ Oh please
worst episode ever.
so much of this show was canned, stock footage... canned air combat scenes..same (wrong) aircraft....American P-47s substituting for Luftwaffe planes....same footage of aircraft getting hit, same chattering .50 cal machine guns chattering, same planes banking, diving, etc. Same belly landing scenes and sound effects. I guess audiences were a lot dumber back then, cuz they either didn't notice or didn't care. I would've felt kind of insulted or cheated.
May be we were glad to have more than one channel. Even though there were 3 networks, most places only had 2 channels. Every 12 O'Clock high show we ever saw, it looked like it was in a snow storm with major static.
Don't watch!
@@jstetzer01 Quiet, you.
Then y u watching…🙄
Hey, some of us are getting a lot for the "little" being complained about.
This must be one of the worst/weakest episodes in the series.
Bringing a scatty, irrational woman into a war drama is bound to end up wet as a rainy weekend.