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i live in Düsseldorf in a studio with less than 20sqm and is enough for me , I cannot imagine living alone in a 100sqm apartment ...... sounds like a nightmare for cleaning XD
actually the smaller apartment the harder to clean as the dust is very concentrated and visible, and not spread :D I was living in 35 sq. m. and it was much harder to clean than in 72.
I think it is also important to note that in Germany a balcony is always counted with half its size into the square meters, while a terrace is counted as 1/4. So for example if you have a 10 square meter balcony and your apartment is advertised as 50 square meters, be aware that 5 square meters of that is actually the balcony. Or if you have a 20 square meter terrace it will be accounted for as 5 square meters, so in both cases, your 50 square meter apartment has actually only 45 square meters of living space.
Halfway through and I really love the infographics you guys have worked on! Maybe they were always there but it all looked so seamless I probably never noticed!
Growing up in South Asia, I was used to living in big flats of around 160-180 sqm. Our rooms were huge and almost every bedroom had its own bathroom. Now that I'm a student again, I live in a 17sqm bedroom with a 9 sqm bathroom with everything I need. But this video made me realize that the housing situation back where I lived isn't quite the same as what we have here in Germany.
Now that is a real good picture! Very much appreciate the tables and the map. The governmental baseline was a thing I first heard of under a bit of stressful circumstances, when my flight back to Bulgaria got cancelled and there was a moment of joking around it that I'm staying for good, I can't leave and so on, so then the person I was with told me about this housing regultions and that she can't register me to live in that appartment because it wouldn't fulfill the sqm. requirement for two people. And I said 'ok, well we'll move to Düsseldorf then'. 😅 (If only we weren't joking..) But the things you say when it comes to average size constructions sound actually pretty good to me. Compared to many trends I'm seeing around, Germany has it definitely better. And the availabilty, I checked it and saw very very decent options at a good price. Will jump into it come March! Thank you for this video... pretty fresh topic and adventure for you actually, ne? I hope your moving and Ummeldung went Smoothly! We kind of get a beauiful glimpse of a new surrounding, particularly in your last two weeks' shorts. 🤩
My apartment in Dusseldorf city centre is just 40m2. it's fine... 😅 if it was twice the size, say 80m2, I'd b more than happy. If you want to have 3-4 rooms and 100+ m2, you will have to live like 30 minutes from the city center.
Thanks again, interesting knowledge. Another thing I faced when I look for an apartment is, for some apartment offers with 45-60m2 size, they want only single person. They even don't want a couple. I am also trying to bring my wife to Germany with family reunion visa. So, in Munster I called the foreign office and asked what is the minimum apartment size for a couple. They told me that they don't have any specific size limitations. It just depends... My current apartment has 27m2 size, and we are waiting response from the foreign office. I will update the status here, when we get response from them.
Cheers, my wife got visa, 27m2 apartment was enough for 2 persons. However, the apartment size was not mentioned in my rental contract, so immigration office asked me document about which mentions the size of my apartment.
One of the things that I miss in the apartments here in Germany is a laundry room. In Brazil it is common to have a laundry area in the apartments, I believe this is one of the reasons why the average size of the apartments is a little larger there: 65 square meters.
True, we have only seen true laundry rooms in German houses or in the basement of apartment buildings, where you share the laundry room with the other tenants (still everyone has there own laundry machine though). Alternatively the laundry machine is in the kitchen or bathroom and the cloth drying rack in the middle of your living room 😅
In Ukraine I lived (with my parents) in 93 sq.m appartment (with balconies it is around 100sq.m). It is huuuuge for 3 people and two cats, I have no idea how 1 person can live in it. Btw, my cats have their own room 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow. My house, exclusive garage and boatport, is roughly 370 sq. m. In the next month, I will begin building a house for my ex-wife that will be roughly 420 sq. m. These are both average size houses in our area. 100 sq. m. wouldn't nearly hold all the crap I own.
And the quest is to find and rent apartments in Germany! :) by the way, i finaly get a visa and tommorow mooving to your city, Dusseldorf! Just sharing my happines :) but i do not still find a flat for living....
Congrats and all the best for your move tomorrow!! 🤗 Hopefully finding a place to live will become a little bit easier once you are here. Here is our guide with helpful tips: www.simplegermany.com/renting-in-germany/
I currently live in a 2 room (1 bedroom, 1 living room, 1 kitchen, separate bathroom and tiny toilet room, and a balcony) flat, 44 sq.m. overall, 30 sq.m. living space (unlike Germany, that excludes kitchen, bathroom, toilet, and the balcony), and it's considered medium size by local standards and more suited for a couple without children than a single person (so pretty much the same as minimum requirements in Germany)... or, like, 10-15 students who can't afford rent and don't have access to dorms, which is disturbingly common. In what country is 100 sq.m. considered normal for a single person?
Hi, if i m living in 30 sq mtr. Can my 2 guests stay with me who come to visit for a month or so? Or the rule of 12 sq mtr apply for temporary guests too?
@@simplegermany my contract states guests can stay up to 2 weeks in a row. I have no idea how they'd know if a guest spends 3 weeks, but sure... Or... according to my contract a guest can stay here for 2 weeks, sleep in a hostel for 1 night, then stay at my place for 2 more weeks etc.... it's so silly. haha
There is no support for living in a small home. However, if you receive support from the government, e.g. unemployment benefits, you can only receive them if you live in an adequate size home.
I am a student and i want to move to Germany for my further studies. Can you please make a vedio on student accommodation for international student and suitable part time jobs for students
I know you both don't have children, but I think if you could do a video on moving with children to Germany, maybe with another guest, it would be a great topic to cover. There is very very very few videos on this topic.
I left a 200+ sqm house in the city when I moved to Germany. I am now living in a 60 sqm apartment and adapting to that was already a huge challenge. Like your friend, I am also looking for a 90-110 sqm place in the future because we barely have enough room. Our kitchen is very small and we don't have a dinner table. We use the small table next to the couch to eat or our desks because there is just not enough room to put a table anywhere. We can't fully open the wardrobe doors because they hit the bed and we can't fully open the kitchen window either because it hits the fridge. It's crazy to think that our apartment is one of the "bigger" ones in our area and especially seeing other families with children living in the building. I'll admit after living in a big house all my life, everything will probably feel too small though. The upside I guess is that I go outside a lot more often than before since I get incredibly bored and feel a bit trapped living in a small apartment now.
Thanks for sharing! We can imagine that downsizing is not always easy. Sometimes it's not only about the actual size, but about the layout. You should be able to open your closet without hitting the bed though. We totally feel you about not having a dining table. We used a foldable table from IKEA, which turned from shelf to table and back to shelf, when not needed 😅
I’d love to know who in the government came up with the appropriate size how large is their living quarters!!!!!! And where do they or how do they justify the appropriate size per individual!! 😉 German living space I find a but toooooo small!!
@@michaelvonfriedrich3924 these sizes are what is deemed appropriate when you live on welfare. The social system is not designed to afford „luxury“ to its recipients. But compared to for example the US people can actually live on welfare and not just „survive“. If you have the means and all of course you can rent whatever palatial size you want and can pay. The thing though is, that Germany is very densely populated and so apartment sizes are usually on the smaller side. Instead of bulldozing woods and fields for building, Germany is optimizing the available space. That does not mean you don’t find larger apartments or houses. But of course they are on the pricey side, nobody is keeping you from renting/buying these if you can afford it.
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i live in Düsseldorf in a studio with less than 20sqm and is enough for me , I cannot imagine living alone in a 100sqm apartment ...... sounds like a nightmare for cleaning XD
actually the smaller apartment the harder to clean as the dust is very concentrated and visible, and not spread :D I was living in 35 sq. m. and it was much harder to clean than in 72.
I think it is also important to note that in Germany a balcony is always counted with half its size into the square meters, while a terrace is counted as 1/4. So for example if you have a 10 square meter balcony and your apartment is advertised as 50 square meters, be aware that 5 square meters of that is actually the balcony. Or if you have a 20 square meter terrace it will be accounted for as 5 square meters, so in both cases, your 50 square meter apartment has actually only 45 square meters of living space.
Thanks for your input! 😊
Yeeees, new video :) Great topic by the way :)
Halfway through and I really love the infographics you guys have worked on! Maybe they were always there but it all looked so seamless I probably never noticed!
Growing up in South Asia, I was used to living in big flats of around 160-180 sqm. Our rooms were huge and almost every bedroom had its own bathroom. Now that I'm a student again, I live in a 17sqm bedroom with a 9 sqm bathroom with everything I need. But this video made me realize that the housing situation back where I lived isn't quite the same as what we have here in Germany.
Wow, that is a big difference in space :) It’s crazy how limited spaces are in Germany and Europe overall compared to other countries.
Now that is a real good picture! Very much appreciate the tables and the map. The governmental baseline was a thing I first heard of under a bit of stressful circumstances, when my flight back to Bulgaria got cancelled and there was a moment of joking around it that I'm staying for good, I can't leave and so on, so then the person I was with told me about this housing regultions and that she can't register me to live in that appartment because it wouldn't fulfill the sqm. requirement for two people. And I said 'ok, well we'll move to Düsseldorf then'. 😅 (If only we weren't joking..)
But the things you say when it comes to average size constructions sound actually pretty good to me. Compared to many trends I'm seeing around, Germany has it definitely better. And the availabilty, I checked it and saw very very decent options at a good price. Will jump into it come March! Thank you for this video... pretty fresh topic and adventure for you actually, ne? I hope your moving and Ummeldung went Smoothly! We kind of get a beauiful glimpse of a new surrounding, particularly in your last two weeks' shorts. 🤩
That's when jokes sometimes become a reality 😅
My apartment in Dusseldorf city centre is just 40m2. it's fine... 😅 if it was twice the size, say 80m2, I'd b more than happy. If you want to have 3-4 rooms and 100+ m2, you will have to live like 30 minutes from the city center.
Interesting to see the housing size/distribution is VERY similar here in Spain. Maybe the average flat size is a bit bigger, but not by much.
Thanks again, interesting knowledge.
Another thing I faced when I look for an apartment is, for some apartment offers with 45-60m2 size, they want only single person. They even don't want a couple.
I am also trying to bring my wife to Germany with family reunion visa. So, in Munster I called the foreign office and asked what is the minimum apartment size for a couple.
They told me that they don't have any specific size limitations. It just depends... My current apartment has 27m2 size, and we are waiting response from the foreign office. I will update the status here, when we get response from them.
Cheers, my wife got visa, 27m2 apartment was enough for 2 persons. However, the apartment size was not mentioned in my rental contract, so immigration office asked me document about which mentions the size of my apartment.
@@nurimustafa3817hey may i know other documents that i need to provide in order to my wife can process her family reunion visa?
One of the things that I miss in the apartments here in Germany is a laundry room. In Brazil it is common to have a laundry area in the apartments, I believe this is one of the reasons why the average size of the apartments is a little larger there: 65 square meters.
True, we have only seen true laundry rooms in German houses or in the basement of apartment buildings, where you share the laundry room with the other tenants (still everyone has there own laundry machine though). Alternatively the laundry machine is in the kitchen or bathroom and the cloth drying rack in the middle of your living room 😅
Yeah, having one room for laundry and storage would be nice.
Hi @SimpleGermany I would like to know what is the tvöd vka and how to know where is my profile there :) . Thank you for your excelent videos!
In Ukraine I lived (with my parents) in 93 sq.m appartment (with balconies it is around 100sq.m). It is huuuuge for 3 people and two cats, I have no idea how 1 person can live in it. Btw, my cats have their own room 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So, for a couple, the adequate space required by the government for a reunification visa is only 24 sm?
As a person, that used to live in D’dorf, I am welcoming, that Cologne wasn’t used for the city comparison 😂
😅
what is the fight between Koln and D'dorf? :D Is it because of the beer? :D
Wow. My house, exclusive garage and boatport, is roughly 370 sq. m. In the next month, I will begin building a house for my ex-wife that will be roughly 420 sq. m. These are both average size houses in our area. 100 sq. m. wouldn't nearly hold all the crap I own.
And the quest is to find and rent apartments in Germany! :)
by the way, i finaly get a visa and tommorow mooving to your city, Dusseldorf! Just sharing my happines :) but i do not still find a flat for living....
Congrats and all the best for your move tomorrow!! 🤗 Hopefully finding a place to live will become a little bit easier once you are here. Here is our guide with helpful tips: www.simplegermany.com/renting-in-germany/
@@simplegermany thanks! And keep doing videos! They are interesting and helpful. \m/
I currently live in a 2 room (1 bedroom, 1 living room, 1 kitchen, separate bathroom and tiny toilet room, and a balcony) flat, 44 sq.m. overall, 30 sq.m. living space (unlike Germany, that excludes kitchen, bathroom, toilet, and the balcony), and it's considered medium size by local standards and more suited for a couple without children than a single person (so pretty much the same as minimum requirements in Germany)... or, like, 10-15 students who can't afford rent and don't have access to dorms, which is disturbingly common. In what country is 100 sq.m. considered normal for a single person?
Probably in countries where space is more abundant and population is not so dense.
Could you please tell me the 'appropriate size' of an apartment for my family (Me, wife & 2kids of 2&5.5)?
Hi, if i m living in 30 sq mtr. Can my 2 guests stay with me who come to visit for a month or so? Or the rule of 12 sq mtr apply for temporary guests too?
Of course! The sizes only apply to residents.
@@simplegermany my contract states guests can stay up to 2 weeks in a row. I have no idea how they'd know if a guest spends 3 weeks, but sure... Or... according to my contract a guest can stay here for 2 weeks, sleep in a hostel for 1 night, then stay at my place for 2 more weeks etc.... it's so silly. haha
Could you please tell me what's the support that you are talking about being eligible when 2 people live below 47sq MTR?
There is no support for living in a small home. However, if you receive support from the government, e.g. unemployment benefits, you can only receive them if you live in an adequate size home.
Hallo i am new here in germany and i am pregnant. can you explain something about pregnancy, benefits here in germany? vielen dank ❤️
You can find detailed guides on our website about pregnancy and benefits here: www.simplegermany.com/family-in-germany/
I am a student and i want to move to Germany for my further studies. Can you please make a vedio on student accommodation for international student and suitable part time jobs for students
i got more than one friend that lives in 21sqM in Frankfurt for 700€/month xd
I know you both don't have children, but I think if you could do a video on moving with children to Germany, maybe with another guest, it would be a great topic to cover. There is very very very few videos on this topic.
Thanks for the suggestion! We have noted it to our list of topic ideas 😊
I totally agreed with this. The problem especially here in Munich is that if you have a family of 4 it is the hardest of houses to get.
May I suggest „my merry messy life“ to you? Thy are a family of six and moved in the hight of the pandemic to Germany
@@karinland8533 Six what? I don't get why the country can be so Brutal when it comes to housing.
@@johnny_damiano a family of six people
Can a landlord refuse to allow your spouse to live with you in 35sqm studio apartment?
We are no lawyers, but believe that the landlord can determine how many people live in the flat.
Good luck everyone, finding an apartment is a nightmare. Es spielt kaum eine Rolle, in welchem Teil von Deutschland.
I left a 200+ sqm house in the city when I moved to Germany. I am now living in a 60 sqm apartment and adapting to that was already a huge challenge. Like your friend, I am also looking for a 90-110 sqm place in the future because we barely have enough room. Our kitchen is very small and we don't have a dinner table. We use the small table next to the couch to eat or our desks because there is just not enough room to put a table anywhere. We can't fully open the wardrobe doors because they hit the bed and we can't fully open the kitchen window either because it hits the fridge. It's crazy to think that our apartment is one of the "bigger" ones in our area and especially seeing other families with children living in the building. I'll admit after living in a big house all my life, everything will probably feel too small though. The upside I guess is that I go outside a lot more often than before since I get incredibly bored and feel a bit trapped living in a small apartment now.
Thanks for sharing! We can imagine that downsizing is not always easy. Sometimes it's not only about the actual size, but about the layout. You should be able to open your closet without hitting the bed though. We totally feel you about not having a dining table. We used a foldable table from IKEA, which turned from shelf to table and back to shelf, when not needed 😅
I’d love to know who in the government came up with the appropriate size how large is their living quarters!!!!!! And where do they or how do they justify the appropriate size per individual!! 😉 German living space I find a but toooooo small!!
@@michaelvonfriedrich3924 these sizes are what is deemed appropriate when you live on welfare. The social system is not designed to afford „luxury“ to its recipients. But compared to for example the US people can actually live on welfare and not just „survive“.
If you have the means and all of course you can rent whatever palatial size you want and can pay. The thing though is, that Germany is very densely populated and so apartment sizes are usually on the smaller side. Instead of bulldozing woods and fields for building, Germany is optimizing the available space. That does not mean you don’t find larger apartments or houses. But of course they are on the pricey side, nobody is keeping you from renting/buying these if you can afford it.
Sounds like an american not knowing metric....