I enjoyed this video, well done. There are a few things that you did not mention. The customer service for CGc and cbcs is really nonexistent. When you call cbcs you get routed to a call center in India and they have no clue what is going on with your books. Also it is outrageous that CGc and cbcs charge extra if your book is worth more. There are third party graders there job is to grade nothing else. Why should they benefit financially if my books are or the more. I prefer pgx their customer service is excellent , turnaround times much better and no bs additional fee if the book is worth more.
As always great information! Your channel helped my chose where to submit my comics months back and I choose CBCS mainly because of Steve. Now he has left so I may have to reconsider new submissions
I believe the larger question to ask is why aren’t grading companies consistent based on the consistent standards of grades in the guide? You should never have to submit a book and think that it’s a 9.0, and it comes back at 7.5 in some cases, or it comes back at 9.6 in other cases. There needs to be consistency throughout every grading company, a grade should not depend on what an individual grader might think at a particular time. Standards are standards - in baseball you don’t hit one off the wall and it’s called a home run versus somebody hitting it in the stands and it’s called a home run versus somebody not hitting it at all and it’s called a home run. There’s a standard set of rules.
I agree. But it’s graded by humans. And they are influenced by their day and what’s going on around them. So until we get the robot uprising and all the humans get destroyed. And it’s just robots grading comics. Then we are stuck with these puny humans 😂
Thank you for this video. I’m glad a big channel like you is actually delivering factual information about these companies. There are channels out there that are putting EGS up there with CGC as a good secondary option…. I swear. I’ll go a step further, there are 3 viable US grading companies CGC, CBCS and PGX. I do not consider any other company in the US.
I will absolutely put EGS up there as a good 2nd option, Alex....I will put them up as a 1st option and I'll stand by it. Why not? They've made less mistakes and have a higher level of integrity.
@@x11bravo I respect that. What cgc book(s) did you have cracked and sent to EGS? Just know this isn’t an argument between us and I genuinely want to learn more. Thanks.
@@AlextheComicHoarder Of course you're looking to argue, don't be silly 😆. Reach out to me after EGS gets their new cases and I'll show you the one CGC "can't find in their system" and the "9.8" which clearly isn't a 9.8. Not sure what you consider factual information but this dude literally just saw a comment from a subscriber about a Crow book, turned around and spread that as proof to another commentor using that heresay to defend CGC and slam EGS. Just happened in these comments. Look for yourself. He doesn't even understand what factual information or data is. He states that CGC is on point 90 to 95 percent of the time and he pulled that number out of his 4th point of contact. That is not factual data or info. YOU are ready to make your decisions based on that as well as go as far as to disregard a company completely, and argue them to the death with me. I can tell that already. Im sorry Sir but this gentleman is not subjective in the slightest, he doesn't hold CGC to the same standards he does EGS for some reason, he doesnt hold them accountable for some reason, he makes up his own facts and data, contradicts himself constantly and has family in another grading company which can absolutely be construed as conflict of interest. This video was made in an attempt to cover up his train wreck of a biased video he put out a little while ago where he did the exact same thing but with even less info and more favoritism. If YOU have not learned from the HUNDREDS of horror stories out there as proof for the world to actually see and you're lining up to go be one of those horror stories from CGC, then there's absolutely nothing I am going to be able to say to show you the ridiculousness in that. SHOW ME THE PROOF! I can direct you to sooo many examples of proof about CGC including my iwn PC. You guys.... show us the proof. When you can SHOW that EGS is worse than CGC, you can scream it from the mountaintops and I will accept it. But that day is not today. Still no proof and nowhere even close to the same amount of failures. Good day to you, Sir!
I recognize that Superman 13 CGC 7.0 as I submitted it to your last auction!. Looks so nice sitting there on your desk, thanks for promoting it so well in the lead-up to the auction start! 🙏😊
Thanks for the video brother, you succinctly stated all the salient points as to why CGC is and as far as I can see always be the industry gold standard. I see many individuals attempting to slam CGC but at the end of the day there is a difference between your personal preference and what is in fact the best investment. You always have to divorce your personal feelings and preferences from objective and quantifiable realities. There is a reason that we have never seen any of these record breaking comic book sales over at Heritage be sold in anything other than a CGC slab. I personally will never use any other grading company other than CGC with the possible exception that I might utilize CBCS but only for a modern book.
Yes it’s a hard fact that people can’t seem to understand. It is what it is. And cgc will only grow stronger. With cbcs losing Steve not sure how cbcs will fair now
Thais was a very helpful video. I’m currently in the process of s picking books from collection to get graded. I knew I was gonna use cgc, but this confirms my thought process. Thanks
I have used CGC, PGX, and CBCS. CBCS has the best slab; however the worst turn around time. I wish CBCS could get the times down. I use PGX for my PC of books I will never sell. PGX will print the grader notes on the back of the label for a $5 fee. I have it on one of my books. It's great for transparency. CGC gets the most value for sales due to market preference. I prefer them for selling books or speculation.
I'm sure people alrealre as dy pointed it out or at the very least you seen this mistake already. When you describe the teenage mutant ninja turtles second print. You show a CGC of 9.6 and it shows it sold for $660.00 but you accidentally said $688.00.either way I love this video because. I am the person you mentioned at the beginning intro. I knew a lot of company's you named but didn't know who was the most reliable to go to. So thank you for the very informative video. Much appreciated.
Hi David I live in Australia and I have some experience with Halo. They're still around and they pretty much only focus on the local market. As u can imagine, the reasons why virtually no one from the states send books to them are the same reason why some Australian uses them. It is more difficult and comparatively more expensive for us to send stuff to the states. You do see quite a few Halo slabs locally in shows or local ebay stores so they're around I've used them recently for some books intended for my own PC. I use CGC when I buy books from US retailers and will have them sent to first a US presser, then CGC, then a third part shipping company before shipping them to Australia. It's a more expensive and riskier process Anyway my impression of Halo 1) Best thing about them is the case is REALLY tough. Extremely sturdy, can probably drop them from a floor high and have a chance of not getting any damage wheras the CGC cases are easily cracked. I sometimes hear squeaks just handling a CGC slab...makes me nervous 2) Grading appears reasonable, my copper age books did get down graded as they should have 3) Turn around time is about 2 months I would imagine the European EGS is pretty good and I expect German services/products top notch... anyway just abit of input
Thanks for that. Ya the shipping costs would out weigh any reason to use them from a USA point of view. Because it would be a couple hundred dollars just in shipping
We’re the Certified Guarantee Company, where we won’t guarantee anything! Grades are subjective, QC is hit or miss, and TATs are rough estimates. 60% of the time you’ll be happy every time!
@@nelsonrodriguez5451 I’m not sure what that has to do with my sarcastic dig at CGC. Graded books do have their place in the market but it’s gotten wildly out of control. You’re making the assumption that the grading companies don’t make mistakes. Taking their “opinion” (as they love to use as an excuse) as fact can cost you $1000’s. Especially when it comes to all those 9.8s with more flaws than 9.2s. If you’re not doing the due diligence to find out if a books is restored or missing a piece that’s on you. And raw books get low balled because 90% of dealers over grade and over price everything hoping a sucker will come along and blindly throw money at them. And sadly, many do.
Hard to make all my points in a chat. Never said grading companies don't make mistakes. Please don't put words in my mouth. I don't buy 9.8 modern and get those raw since a new book should be 9.2 to 9.8 because it's new. Of course it's on me if I am buying a book and then it's missing a value stamp or pages. Graded books was setup to eliminate that. Also 80's restoration was a big thing and now its not so yes for Bronze and Silver age books, grading protects buyers and buyers get a better a price point closer to the FMV of the book. Dealers can over price books but be greedy when people are fearful and wait for the book to cool off which they all do and pounce. My general rule is silver Age keys 8.5 is the fairest sweet spot grade. Bronze 9.2 and Copper to Modern 9.4 to 9.6. Can't get everything 9.8 or you never complete the collection. Also, this is a free space and I am entitled to my opinion.
My experience with EGS is the opposite regarding grading, it’s a tougher grade based on the old Overstreet price guide. This video was made over a year ago and EGS has their new slabs in place which are much better than the older ones. Given the nightmare that CGC has created for themselves I chose EGS. I know, the market doesn’t like this company but as an older collector, (I’m roughly your Dad’s age) I’m happy with the EGS system.
Enjoyed the video. And agree. I have several cgc that has newton rings. And on a personal note. They really bother me. I have several cbcs. No Newton rings. Just for that reason. If it's a book I want to keep for my collection. Definitely cbcs. If it one I want to sell. I'm still concerned about getting one back with Newton rings. Because. I myself will shy away from buying it. I've never bought a graded book in person with a Newton ring. I've only received them from being bought online. With no mention of Newton rings. I know they don't effect the comic. But I myself can't stand them. Does any cbcs comics have Newton rings. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks
The be the “gold standard” GCG needs to get it together as far as turn around times before I would ever submit anything. I don’t want my stuff away for a year or more, it’s absurd.
No, I’ve never wondered about which grading company to use, but I have bought a few graded comics and then thought “why the frack did I buy graded comics?”
great video. I learned a lot. Also, how would someone even get into the business of grading comic books? Are there classes these companies give? I would imagine reputation and customer service is everything for someone who would even attempt to open up a small grading company correct?
I personally prefer the CBCS experience, but for my books that are very liquid in the market (Marvel Silver Age, Marvel Bronze) I use CGC, only because the market still favors CGC over CBCS (but that gap is closing). For Golden Age, i like CBCS -- I don't think the market punishes you if you're selling a GA book in a CBCS slab, because GA buyers generally know how to grade and can see if they agree with the grade after looking at the slab. I don't bother with any other company outside CBCS or CGC.
I use both cgc and cbcs. I use cbcs to verify signatures. I just wish cgc would put some first appearances on the labels. CBCS does that a little better. I sent one book from my collection to egs just to see what it would be like. Think it was a Green lantern.
I'm planning on doing a big test with EGS once he gets his new cases in. I have a Lois Lane collection that's PC and most low grade and ill send a bunch in after grading myself and see what happens.
I also prefer CGC, but I think it's each individuals preference. I don't agree with you on if it's a CGC 7.0 it's a 7.0, I've got gift grades and have watched enough of your videos when you kinda throw a rant about the grades you get from CGC. Your absolutely right, CGC does get the higher sales value. I only use CBCS for their signature verification though I do like their new slabs better than CGCs. Thanks for sharing.
Great video! I was hoping to hear your opinion if one came across a Halo graded book. Found a book graded at 9.6 that I've been looking for awhile now and I can't find anything online regarding the quality/accuracy of their grading
I would like to see your opinion on the value difference between CGC & CBCS comics also how long it takes to sell. I hear people saying CGC would sell for 30% more. I wonder if that’s true.
Thanks for the breakdown! I'm just getting my first batch of comics cleaned/pressed now prior to grading and chose CGC primarily because of the presentation. The CBCS labels and case just look cheap compared to CGC. Not going to lie I like the way the EGS books look graded but seems like too many red flags to go that route.
Have a question I hope someone can help me with. In 2017 I lost everything in a house fire and one of the things I have wanted to replace and I am going to tomorrow is a 1977 Marvel Comics Super Special number 1 KISS with blood in the red ink. The owners father bought it brand new, put it in a protector and it's been in it since 1977. I don't know about comic collecting. I read comics in the 80's and I collected the entire Ghost Rider I think it was 81 issues. But my questions are , the protector slab they put them in, can you open them if you want to and put it back in and which of the companies would be the best for it? I'm guessing it's vintage? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Here's a different thought: if you've got a beloved book that you're not going to sell in the next few years: don't slab it! Keep it unslabbed and put it up on the wall with a case from Etsy or collector's resource. Or a shelf using toploaders. Slabs are great for protecting value, but IMHO, they don't present nearly as nicely as a raw book in Mylar. Granted there is some risk in that, so it's not for everyone. I've got some $1k+ books and the majority are in slabs, because if I kick the bucket, I want my family to be able to easily put it up on eBay without any hassle.
One thing not mentioned was verification of signatures. Cbcs uses Beckett. Egs does their proprietary method which in part includes COAs. That being said anybody with a printer and computer can create a COA. When I asked egs about it on a you tube comment section, I was told I was mistaken and to look at their site. I went back and their site says in part they use COA..... good luck trying to authenticate a jack kirby signature
So basically, it's not worth standing in line at a comic con for 3+ hrs to get your comic books signed by the artist or and writer, cuz these companies won't accept them as being legit? CGC is a joke with their, " we have to witness the signing" policy.
@@eduardolamboy4776 You can use CBCS. They use Beckett for their signature verification. Be warned though that the TAT for books non express is horrid. Customer service has had issues but lately they seem to be getting better. But yes, they are the only true option if you want a signature verified that was not witnessed.
If over-grading ruins a company's reputation, please watch this video about a "9.8" that I got back from CGC: ua-cam.com/video/TjP1XLn2eoA/v-deo.html While I think this video was in much better taste than your last one on this similar subject, you still present your argument without providing proper context. If you can't call out CGC for doing the same thing you're calling EGS out on, then that invalidates your argument. EGS sponsors a giveaway that I'm a part of, and I'm not afraid to sit here and say that that EGS book you have of theirs is not a 9.8. I actually agree with you there. But can you do the same about CGC? I would truly love to hear what you have to say about the example in the video I linked.
Watched your video on the spider man 9.8 cgc. I agree that shouldn’t be a 9.8. I can’t see it in person but with the defects you mentioned it’s not a 9.8. I mentioned this in my video. That it really depends on the tier you send it. When you send that spiderman book. It’s a modern tier. And with that you get cgc more inexperienced graders. And they do mess up. I just got back a 9.8 that I thought was 9.4-9.6. I also get back comics that grade 1-2 full grades lower then I think. Those I crack out and resend. The real thing is that even though cgc isn’t perfect. They are 90-95% spot on. With egs they are 100% off on their grading. I haven’t seen/experienced a single egs book that was even close to the true grade. A subscriber just told me they got a crow 1 first print Egs. And they cracked it out and it was a 2nd print. The difference is possible thousands of dollars. Egs in my opinion is way way to inexperienced and therefore I cannot recommend them.
@@ComicBookInvestments So if I tell you right now that I sent in a golden age key to CGC which they labeled a 1st print and I cracked it and it's a second print, you're just going to spread my words around to smear CGCs rep because I subscribe to you? You're really missing the point here, Sir. And 90 to 95 percent??? Show me where you found the numbers on that, where CGC has a 90 to 95 percent satisfaction rate. If they're at 75, I would be shocked based on the community's continued PROOF (not heresy) of their mistakes and downfalls. Sorry Sir. You still have not learned anything from the last video.
@@ComicBookInvestments Thanks for taking the time to watch that. I will say it is hard for me to discuss this with you because I'm still taken back by your last video. I want you to take in this next statement with trust in what I'm saying: I have seen a handful of EGS books that have been under-graded, in my opinion. I literally own a EGS 9.6 that I can't find one single flaw on it. I saw a CGC 5.0 cracked and resubmitted to EGS, and come back a 3.0, which, even to me, seemed harsh. My point is, you can easily say that CGC is spot on 90-95% of the time because you see dozens upon dozens of CGC books every week. I think because EGS is so new, any issue with them gets highlighted, which can skew our perception to either side of the extremes. You say they 'over grade," the person who got that 3.0 back doesn't stop ranting about how they "under grade." Perception is a funny thing. So, while I think you're doing your best to be honest, I think you're still you're making statements in a reactionary state of mind, hence, "with EGS they are 100% off on their grading." How can you sum up their ENTIRE grading as being 100% off? You're dealing in a lot of accusatory absolutes when it comes to EGS, and that is where I still have a problem. I see these types of absolutes with CGC and CBCS as well. Remember, anyone who has a bad experience is going to sensationalize their own experience to the EXTREME, but we have to remember to isolate each incident first and foremost, and don't allow those individual's emotions make our minds up for us. I wish you would have done this video first and had never done that first EGS video, but what's done is done. I have similar feelings as you about PGX, but I honestly believe EGS has a lot to offer, and that doesn't even mean that have to be anything close to what CGC or even CBCS are. I know I'll always get slack because they sponsor a show that I'm a part of, but those who know me know that I don't fake the funk for anyone, and the president of EGS knows that I will never hesitate to speak my truth, like agreeing with you that this EGS book here is a questionable 9.8. I'll also be doing an honest review for when their new cases come out. I have a paying order in to them for two books, both non-valuable variants with awesome covers that I just wanted custom labels for, which shows that they do offer a service/product that means more than just resell value.
I in my video I said this is my opinion. I listened to your first comments on my last video. And I agreed with you that I need to say this was my opinion on the matter. I even stated to do your own research. My reason behind 90-95% is because like I say In the video. I send about 4,000 comics to cgc a year. And have been doing this for over a decade. I honestly just don’t see what egs offers that would be a reason to use them. They aren’t the cheapest. That’s pgx. They aren’t the best in terms of holding their value. That’s cgc. Their labels and cases aren’t as good as cgc. The grading and grading notes and overall in terms of user interface on their website what they offer is better at cbcs and cgc. So just because they are new that’s it. We disagree on this matter. And that is fine. But I still stand by this on my opinion. That I see no reason to use egs and I don’t think they offer a good product. Competition is good when the competition is offering something better or more. Egs isn’t.
I bought a Crow 1 in an EGS slab that was labeled as a first print, cracked it out and of course it was a second print. Also, to the best of my knowledge, EGS does not check for restoration.
Waiting for my first set to come back from CGC. I have a lot of signed comics so those will obviously go to CBCS. My only thing is where do I send in my Last Ronins?!?!?🤔🤔🤔
CGC was great in the first few years. Great prices and they were spot on grading. Now…prices have gone up and quality has suffered. Maybe they need to hire more ppl and create a true standard that they use. You can send in multiple books that look perfect and they all get a 9.0 or 9.2. You can get a 9.0, crack it open, send back and get a 9.6. Or believe your 9.4 should be a 9.8. Crack it, send it and now it’s a 9.0. Almost always zero notes. You can set for nothing below 9.2 and they’ll send you books sealed and a 9.0. So I guess they don’t care what you asked for. Prices based off value makes zero sense either. Then turn around times can be horrible. CGC needs to slow down, re-evaluate prices, hire quality graders that all go off a standard. 10 million but about 7 million worth of sloppy work. Once egs or others bump their quality…CGC will lose ppl.
CGC has the first to market advantage -very hard for others to overcome that - CBCS was founded by the guy who created the CGC grading scale and other top CGC talented graders from the start of CGC, so while later to market than other grading companies they have more belief by the market in their grades. PGX had some early scandals and still to this day make very bad errors on color touch or trimming etc. EGS...among other things.. will verify a signature based on a COA.....because no one could print their own COA???? Also MCS won't allow PGX books on their site - when top sellers won't sell your books that's a problem!
I heard this is an urban legend in the hobby, but supposedly someone submitted a TMNT 1 1st print to PGX and the book was stolen. The submitter received a facsimile or something counterfeit.
I did. He said no. He said and I quote “my lawyers told me not to interact with you”. He didn’t like my first video. And someone contacted me to have a sit down with him after that video. So I reached out and he wasn’t about it.
There's proof that none of these companies are 100% accurate 100% of the time. I believe CGC is out growing their infrastructure and I have heard the customer service can be suspect. Let's add in the fact that Blackstone has purchased CGC so they're more pressured to please the parent company and share holders than the people submitting books... You make great points and said everything you needed to say when contrasting these companies. CGC holds the value, that's why they matter; however, they are not perfect and I hope you realize that.
L🤣L!!! Great video, great info. However, I feel like (and I could be wrong) you made this video because people like myself kinda gave you the business when you made a video about EGS a while ago. You have mostly made your point but I have seen plenty of CGC unboxing videos (because you guys love giving them free advertising) where the individual can’t understand a grade they’ve received. On Regie collects Regie told a story about this collector who’s book was over graded. He thought with his flaws his book was a 9.2-9.4. He got a 9.8. Now maybe you’ve seen SEVERAL EGS graded books but I’m sure you could make the same arguments about grading. I believe that you made the same argument before about the EGS graded DareDevil book. I get that’s an egregious example but can you honestly say a company that’s been around 20 years hasn’t made some pretty bad grading mistakes? I will say that I’m convinced and when I start getting books graded I will stick with the BIG two.
I did make this video after that. I actually wanted to make this video for awhile now. The egs was off the cuff and wasn’t a true breakdown. But since that egs video came out. I was like. Well I better do a full breakdown of all of them like I’ve been wanting to. So it’s fair
@@x11bravo I don’t think he brought up that your books could still be with the big two for a year unless you pay them the extra doe to speed up the process.
Sorry so you can see the notes they will put on slab before you complete order? Like a preview of the label so you know if it will include the labeling that you want
I can’t sell anything other than CGC on eBay. I have to almost go raw prices on my CBCS. I’ve never had the guts to buy anything else. It’s dumb though. Side by side they look almost identical. People just don’t trust the other companies
Is a CGC green label (sketched & signed) less valuable than a yellow label (sketched & signed) I just need to know where I stand before I submit a copy of Alien #1 sketch & signed by will torres. It has a cert of authenticity but I'm not sure if CGC will give it a green or yellow label.
@@ComicBookInvestments I kinda thought that to be fair. How do you guarantee CGC will give it a yellow label. Do they need to actually be there to see the work done to the book?
@@ComicBookInvestments That's BS, how are they gonna be at every comic con or book signing in the country to do that!? I have around 12 Avengers comics that George Perez signed for me at SDCC in 2006 & you're telling me they won't accept them as legit cuz they weren't there to see him sign them?? So if I send them to CGC to get graded , they won't accept the GP signing/signature as being legit?
@@eduardolamboy4776 You will need to submit your books to CBCS to get the authentication yellow label. They usually charge $25 per book per signature to authenticate. CGC will not give you the signature label and they will mark the book as "name written in marker" on the label as well. Just go with CBCS for any books signed previously plus their new cases are the best out there at the moment!
@@hellskitchencollectable9768 Thanks for that info, much appreciated. How much of a difference in value does a CGC certified sig sell for over a comic sign certified by CBCS go for?
Do not go to Halo!!! They are garbage. They had a Af 15 I bought in 2012 which was a 1.5 PGX copy which had distinct details on the book.. it was sold to another buyer who then had it graded from Halo and came back 2.5!!!!! Pure ridiculous as the books spine was very rough and was more like a 1.0 grade. Needless to say no one should trust that site after what I witnessed
I enjoyed this video, well done. There are a few things that you did not mention. The customer service for CGc and cbcs is really nonexistent. When you call cbcs you get routed to a call center in India and they have no clue what is going on with your books. Also it is outrageous that CGc and cbcs charge extra if your book is worth more. There are third party graders there job is to grade nothing else. Why should they benefit financially if my books are or the more. I prefer pgx their customer service is excellent , turnaround times much better and no bs additional fee if the book is worth more.
I buy CGC and CBCS……but I submit to PGX. Not looking to sell. They stay in my PC.
As always great information! Your channel helped my chose where to submit my comics months back and I choose CBCS mainly because of Steve. Now he has left so I may have to reconsider new submissions
I believe the larger question to ask is why aren’t grading companies consistent based on the consistent standards of grades in the guide? You should never have to submit a book and think that it’s a 9.0, and it comes back at 7.5 in some cases, or it comes back at 9.6 in other cases. There needs to be consistency throughout every grading company, a grade should not depend on what an individual grader might think at a particular time. Standards are standards - in baseball you don’t hit one off the wall and it’s called a home run versus somebody hitting it in the stands and it’s called a home run versus somebody not hitting it at all and it’s called a home run. There’s a standard set of rules.
I agree. But it’s graded by humans. And they are influenced by their day and what’s going on around them. So until we get the robot uprising and all the humans get destroyed. And it’s just robots grading comics. Then we are stuck with these puny humans 😂
Wow, quite a breakdown. Thanks for your hard work on vids like this!
Thank you for this video. I’m glad a big channel like you is actually delivering factual information about these companies. There are channels out there that are putting EGS up there with CGC as a good secondary option…. I swear. I’ll go a step further, there are 3 viable US grading companies CGC, CBCS and PGX. I do not consider any other company in the US.
I will absolutely put EGS up there as a good 2nd option, Alex....I will put them up as a 1st option and I'll stand by it. Why not? They've made less mistakes and have a higher level of integrity.
@@x11bravo cross grade your CGC books with them.
@@AlextheComicHoarder way ahead of you Sir
@@x11bravo I respect that. What cgc book(s) did you have cracked and sent to EGS? Just know this isn’t an argument between us and I genuinely want to learn more. Thanks.
@@AlextheComicHoarder Of course you're looking to argue, don't be silly 😆. Reach out to me after EGS gets their new cases and I'll show you the one CGC "can't find in their system" and the "9.8" which clearly isn't a 9.8. Not sure what you consider factual information but this dude literally just saw a comment from a subscriber about a Crow book, turned around and spread that as proof to another commentor using that heresay to defend CGC and slam EGS. Just happened in these comments. Look for yourself. He doesn't even understand what factual information or data is. He states that CGC is on point 90 to 95 percent of the time and he pulled that number out of his 4th point of contact. That is not factual data or info. YOU are ready to make your decisions based on that as well as go as far as to disregard a company completely, and argue them to the death with me. I can tell that already. Im sorry Sir but this gentleman is not subjective in the slightest, he doesn't hold CGC to the same standards he does EGS for some reason, he doesnt hold them accountable for some reason, he makes up his own facts and data, contradicts himself constantly and has family in another grading company which can absolutely be construed as conflict of interest. This video was made in an attempt to cover up his train wreck of a biased video he put out a little while ago where he did the exact same thing but with even less info and more favoritism. If YOU have not learned from the HUNDREDS of horror stories out there as proof for the world to actually see and you're lining up to go be one of those horror stories from CGC, then there's absolutely nothing I am going to be able to say to show you the ridiculousness in that. SHOW ME THE PROOF! I can direct you to sooo many examples of proof about CGC including my iwn PC. You guys.... show us the proof. When you can SHOW that EGS is worse than CGC, you can scream it from the mountaintops and I will accept it. But that day is not today. Still no proof and nowhere even close to the same amount of failures. Good day to you, Sir!
I recognize that Superman 13 CGC 7.0 as I submitted it to your last auction!. Looks so nice sitting there on your desk, thanks for promoting it so well in the lead-up to the auction start! 🙏😊
Yes it is. It was a very nice book. Tough to get those old Superman’s in even a decent grade like that.
Thanks for the video brother, you succinctly stated all the salient points as to why CGC is and as far as I can see always be the industry gold standard. I see many individuals attempting to slam CGC but at the end of the day there is a difference between your personal preference and what is in fact the best investment. You always have to divorce your personal feelings and preferences from objective and quantifiable realities. There is a reason that we have never seen any of these record breaking comic book sales over at Heritage be sold in anything other than a CGC slab. I personally will never use any other grading company other than CGC with the possible exception that I might utilize CBCS but only for a modern book.
Yes it’s a hard fact that people can’t seem to understand. It is what it is. And cgc will only grow stronger. With cbcs losing Steve not sure how cbcs will fair now
Maybe so, but it's BS that CGC has to"witness" comics being signed in order to accept them as legit. That's freaking impossible to do
Thais was a very helpful video. I’m currently in the process of s picking books from collection to get graded. I knew I was gonna use cgc, but this confirms my thought process. Thanks
Ya cgc is the best
I have used CGC, PGX, and CBCS. CBCS has the best slab; however the worst turn around time. I wish CBCS could get the times down. I use PGX for my PC of books I will never sell. PGX will print the grader notes on the back of the label for a $5 fee. I have it on one of my books. It's great for transparency. CGC gets the most value for sales due to market preference. I prefer them for selling books or speculation.
I'm sure people alrealre as dy pointed it out or at the very least you seen this mistake already. When you describe the teenage mutant ninja turtles second print. You show a CGC of 9.6 and it shows it sold for $660.00 but you accidentally said $688.00.either way I love this video because.
I am the person you mentioned at the beginning intro. I knew a lot of company's you named but didn't know who was the most reliable to go to. So thank you for the very informative video. Much appreciated.
Thank you very thorough. For a few bucks more you get a more accurate rating. Very important 👍🏻
Hi David
I live in Australia and I have some experience with Halo.
They're still around and they pretty much only focus on the local market.
As u can imagine, the reasons why virtually no one from the states send books to them are the same reason why some Australian uses them. It is more difficult and comparatively more expensive for us to send stuff to the states. You do see quite a few Halo slabs locally in shows or local ebay stores so they're around
I've used them recently for some books intended for my own PC.
I use CGC when I buy books from US retailers and will have them sent to first a US presser, then CGC, then a third part shipping company before shipping them to Australia. It's a more expensive and riskier process
Anyway my impression of Halo
1) Best thing about them is the case is REALLY tough. Extremely sturdy, can probably drop them from a floor high and have a chance of not getting any damage wheras the CGC cases are easily cracked. I sometimes hear squeaks just handling a CGC slab...makes me nervous
2) Grading appears reasonable, my copper age books did get down graded as they should have
3) Turn around time is about 2 months
I would imagine the European EGS is pretty good and I expect German services/products top notch...
anyway just abit of input
Thanks for that. Ya the shipping costs would out weigh any reason to use them from a USA point of view. Because it would be a couple hundred dollars just in shipping
Great video, thanks for the nut and bolts for CGC and CBCS.
We’re the Certified Guarantee Company, where we won’t guarantee anything! Grades are subjective, QC is hit or miss, and TATs are rough estimates. 60% of the time you’ll be happy every time!
@@nelsonrodriguez5451 I’m not sure what that has to do with my sarcastic dig at CGC. Graded books do have their place in the market but it’s gotten wildly out of control. You’re making the assumption that the grading companies don’t make mistakes. Taking their “opinion” (as they love to use as an excuse) as fact can cost you $1000’s. Especially when it comes to all those 9.8s with more flaws than 9.2s. If you’re not doing the due diligence to find out if a books is restored or missing a piece that’s on you. And raw books get low balled because 90% of dealers over grade and over price everything hoping a sucker will come along and blindly throw money at them. And sadly, many do.
Hard to make all my points in a chat. Never said grading companies don't make mistakes. Please don't put words in my mouth. I don't buy 9.8 modern and get those raw since a new book should be 9.2 to 9.8 because it's new. Of course it's on me if I am buying a book and then it's missing a value stamp or pages. Graded books was setup to eliminate that. Also 80's restoration was a big thing and now its not so yes for Bronze and Silver age books, grading protects buyers and buyers get a better a price point closer to the FMV of the book. Dealers can over price books but be greedy when people are fearful and wait for the book to cool off which they all do and pounce. My general rule is silver Age keys 8.5 is the fairest sweet spot grade. Bronze 9.2 and Copper to Modern 9.4 to 9.6. Can't get everything 9.8 or you never complete the collection. Also, this is a free space and I am entitled to my opinion.
The new halo slabs are phenomenal. They look 👌
Love the show as always. Will your father still use CBCS now that Bob left that company? I love raw comics myself and never liked entombing my books.
I’m not sure. It just happened and I haven’t talked to him about it yet
Great video with great examples. Thank you and keep up the great work!
I am submitting to CGC for the first time this week. Thanks for this invaluable video.
Good luck. Hope u get the grades you want
@@ComicBookInvestments I am trying your link you provided today for ebay. I hope it kicks money your way.
My experience with EGS is the opposite regarding grading, it’s a tougher grade based on the old Overstreet price guide. This video was made over a year ago and EGS has their new slabs in place which are much better than the older ones. Given the nightmare that CGC has created for themselves I chose EGS. I know, the market doesn’t like this company but as an older collector, (I’m roughly your Dad’s age) I’m happy with the EGS system.
Enjoyed the video. And agree. I have several cgc that has newton rings. And on a personal note. They really bother me. I have several cbcs. No Newton rings. Just for that reason. If it's a book I want to keep for my collection. Definitely cbcs. If it one I want to sell. I'm still concerned about getting one back with Newton rings. Because. I myself will shy away from buying it. I've never bought a graded book in person with a Newton ring. I've only received them from being bought online. With no mention of Newton rings. I know they don't effect the comic. But I myself can't stand them. Does any cbcs comics have Newton rings. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks
I’ve noticed Newton rings on cgc. I cannot recall any on cbcs that I’ve dealt with. But in terms of value / investment cgc is my personal go to
The be the “gold standard” GCG needs to get it together as far as turn around times before I would ever submit anything. I don’t want my stuff away for a year or more, it’s absurd.
Excellent analysis. Thanks for your hard work.
Thanks for watching
Great deep dive!
Great info.
You are getting what you paid for. You are paying for the trust in the label that's all.
No, I’ve never wondered about which grading company to use, but I have bought a few graded comics and then thought “why the frack did I buy graded comics?”
great video. I learned a lot. Also, how would someone even get into the business of grading comic books? Are there classes these companies give? I would imagine reputation and customer service is everything for someone who would even attempt to open up a small grading company correct?
I personally prefer the CBCS experience, but for my books that are very liquid in the market (Marvel Silver Age, Marvel Bronze) I use CGC, only because the market still favors CGC over CBCS (but that gap is closing). For Golden Age, i like CBCS -- I don't think the market punishes you if you're selling a GA book in a CBCS slab, because GA buyers generally know how to grade and can see if they agree with the grade after looking at the slab. I don't bother with any other company outside CBCS or CGC.
How do you feel about the thousands of "CCG 9.8's" floating around, that are closer to 9.2 books?
Great show! very thorough!
I use both cgc and cbcs. I use cbcs to verify signatures. I just wish cgc would put some first appearances on the labels. CBCS does that a little better. I sent one book from my collection to egs just to see what it would be like. Think it was a Green lantern.
So unlike CGC and their BS rule about having to "witness" artists and or writers signing your book, cbcs will accept your signed comics?
@@eduardolamboy4776 they have a signature verification system.
@@casino_comics Thanks for the info. Shame CGC can't or won't do the same.
I'm planning on doing a big test with EGS once he gets his new cases in. I have a Lois Lane collection that's PC and most low grade and ill send a bunch in after grading myself and see what happens.
Let me know how it goes. One person just told me they cracked out a crow 1 first print and it was actually 2nd print
@@ComicBookInvestments ya I will and ya I saw that
I’d love to come on your show and have an experienced conversation about this.
Great stuff! I’d like more videos on books that are down so I can target them
I usually do those every weekend
@@ComicBookInvestments yes and I want more, the best part of your shows!!
@@ComicBookInvestments with the market downturn there are just so many to track and more insight would be helpful
Hey Dave, are you going to do a video on how your most recent auction went?
Yes. Probably next week. Haven’t done all the numbers for everything yet. Been busy with shipping everything.
@@ComicBookInvestments Awesome!! Looking forward to it. I bet you guys are swamped right now!
If I'm keeping a book for long term it's only CGC, if I know it's short term and I want it at a cheaper price, it's CBCS.
Excellent video. Thanks so much.
I also prefer CGC, but I think it's each individuals preference. I don't agree with you on if it's a CGC 7.0 it's a 7.0, I've got gift grades and have watched enough of your videos when you kinda throw a rant about the grades you get from CGC. Your absolutely right, CGC does get the higher sales value. I only use CBCS for their signature verification though I do like their new slabs better than CGCs. Thanks for sharing.
if you’re in it for the investing/money then it’s CGC by a mile. But if you want CONSISTENT, accurate grading on then it’s CBCS.
Great video! I was hoping to hear your opinion if one came across a Halo graded book. Found a book graded at 9.6 that I've been looking for awhile now and I can't find anything online regarding the quality/accuracy of their grading
I would like to see your opinion on the value difference between CGC & CBCS comics also how long it takes to sell. I hear people saying CGC would sell for 30% more. I wonder if that’s true.
That’s why you watch the video to the end before commenting. Lol
Lol. Ya it’s at the end. But generally it’s about 10-15% difference. And in my experience it takes much longer to sell a cbcs.
Thanks for the breakdown! I'm just getting my first batch of comics cleaned/pressed now prior to grading and chose CGC primarily because of the presentation. The CBCS labels and case just look cheap compared to CGC. Not going to lie I like the way the EGS books look graded but seems like too many red flags to go that route.
Good luck. Hopefully they come back the grades you want
Have a question I hope someone can help me with. In 2017 I lost everything in a house fire and one of the things I have wanted to replace and I am going to tomorrow is a 1977 Marvel Comics Super Special number 1 KISS with blood in the red ink. The owners father bought it brand new, put it in a protector and it's been in it since 1977. I don't know about comic collecting. I read comics in the 80's and I collected the entire Ghost Rider I think it was 81 issues. But my questions are , the protector slab they put them in, can you open them if you want to and put it back in and which of the companies would be the best for it? I'm guessing it's vintage? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Here's a different thought: if you've got a beloved book that you're not going to sell in the next few years: don't slab it!
Keep it unslabbed and put it up on the wall with a case from Etsy or collector's resource. Or a shelf using toploaders. Slabs are great for protecting value, but IMHO, they don't present nearly as nicely as a raw book in Mylar.
Granted there is some risk in that, so it's not for everyone. I've got some $1k+ books and the majority are in slabs, because if I kick the bucket, I want my family to be able to easily put it up on eBay without any hassle.
Yes I agree. That is why said slabs are good for protection on your investment and physical damage. And it does help people sell it for sure
By "slabs", do you mean the plastic encasement they put your comic in after grading?
@@eduardolamboy4776 Yes.
Much valued and appreciated info......thanks
CGC DOES do sports cards, under the CSG label... :)
Ya but I was more speaking about cgc itself not their sister companies
One thing not mentioned was verification of signatures. Cbcs uses Beckett. Egs does their proprietary method which in part includes COAs. That being said anybody with a printer and computer can create a COA. When I asked egs about it on a you tube comment section, I was told I was mistaken and to look at their site. I went back and their site says in part they use COA..... good luck trying to authenticate a jack kirby signature
Ya anyone can make a coa. It doesn’t mean that much. Unless they only take them by certified companies.
So basically, it's not worth standing in line at a comic con for 3+ hrs to get your comic books signed by the artist or and writer, cuz these companies won't accept them as being legit? CGC is a joke with their, " we have to witness the signing" policy.
@@eduardolamboy4776
You can use CBCS. They use Beckett for their signature verification. Be warned though that the TAT for books non express is horrid. Customer service has had issues but lately they seem to be getting better. But yes, they are the only true option if you want a signature verified that was not witnessed.
If over-grading ruins a company's reputation, please watch this video about a "9.8" that I got back from CGC: ua-cam.com/video/TjP1XLn2eoA/v-deo.html
While I think this video was in much better taste than your last one on this similar subject, you still present your argument without providing proper context. If you can't call out CGC for doing the same thing you're calling EGS out on, then that invalidates your argument. EGS sponsors a giveaway that I'm a part of, and I'm not afraid to sit here and say that that EGS book you have of theirs is not a 9.8. I actually agree with you there. But can you do the same about CGC? I would truly love to hear what you have to say about the example in the video I linked.
💯 He just can't seem to judge CGC the same way as the others for some strange reason 🤔
Watched your video on the spider man 9.8 cgc. I agree that shouldn’t be a 9.8. I can’t see it in person but with the defects you mentioned it’s not a 9.8. I mentioned this in my video. That it really depends on the tier you send it. When you send that spiderman book. It’s a modern tier. And with that you get cgc more inexperienced graders. And they do mess up. I just got back a 9.8 that I thought was 9.4-9.6. I also get back comics that grade 1-2 full grades lower then I think. Those I crack out and resend. The real thing is that even though cgc isn’t perfect. They are 90-95% spot on. With egs they are 100% off on their grading. I haven’t seen/experienced a single egs book that was even close to the true grade. A subscriber just told me they got a crow 1 first print Egs. And they cracked it out and it was a 2nd print. The difference is possible thousands of dollars. Egs in my opinion is way way to inexperienced and therefore I cannot recommend them.
@@ComicBookInvestments So if I tell you right now that I sent in a golden age key to CGC which they labeled a 1st print and I cracked it and it's a second print, you're just going to spread my words around to smear CGCs rep because I subscribe to you? You're really missing the point here, Sir. And 90 to 95 percent??? Show me where you found the numbers on that, where CGC has a 90 to 95 percent satisfaction rate. If they're at 75, I would be shocked based on the community's continued PROOF (not heresy) of their mistakes and downfalls. Sorry Sir. You still have not learned anything from the last video.
@@ComicBookInvestments Thanks for taking the time to watch that. I will say it is hard for me to discuss this with you because I'm still taken back by your last video. I want you to take in this next statement with trust in what I'm saying: I have seen a handful of EGS books that have been under-graded, in my opinion. I literally own a EGS 9.6 that I can't find one single flaw on it. I saw a CGC 5.0 cracked and resubmitted to EGS, and come back a 3.0, which, even to me, seemed harsh.
My point is, you can easily say that CGC is spot on 90-95% of the time because you see dozens upon dozens of CGC books every week. I think because EGS is so new, any issue with them gets highlighted, which can skew our perception to either side of the extremes. You say they 'over grade," the person who got that 3.0 back doesn't stop ranting about how they "under grade." Perception is a funny thing. So, while I think you're doing your best to be honest, I think you're still you're making statements in a reactionary state of mind, hence, "with EGS they are 100% off on their grading." How can you sum up their ENTIRE grading as being 100% off? You're dealing in a lot of accusatory absolutes when it comes to EGS, and that is where I still have a problem. I see these types of absolutes with CGC and CBCS as well. Remember, anyone who has a bad experience is going to sensationalize their own experience to the EXTREME, but we have to remember to isolate each incident first and foremost, and don't allow those individual's emotions make our minds up for us.
I wish you would have done this video first and had never done that first EGS video, but what's done is done. I have similar feelings as you about PGX, but I honestly believe EGS has a lot to offer, and that doesn't even mean that have to be anything close to what CGC or even CBCS are. I know I'll always get slack because they sponsor a show that I'm a part of, but those who know me know that I don't fake the funk for anyone, and the president of EGS knows that I will never hesitate to speak my truth, like agreeing with you that this EGS book here is a questionable 9.8. I'll also be doing an honest review for when their new cases come out. I have a paying order in to them for two books, both non-valuable variants with awesome covers that I just wanted custom labels for, which shows that they do offer a service/product that means more than just resell value.
I in my video I said this is my opinion. I listened to your first comments on my last video. And I agreed with you that I need to say this was my opinion on the matter. I even stated to do your own research. My reason behind 90-95% is because like I say In the video. I send about 4,000 comics to cgc a year. And have been doing this for over a decade. I honestly just don’t see what egs offers that would be a reason to use them. They aren’t the cheapest. That’s pgx. They aren’t the best in terms of holding their value. That’s cgc. Their labels and cases aren’t as good as cgc. The grading and grading notes and overall in terms of user interface on their website what they offer is better at cbcs and cgc. So just because they are new that’s it. We disagree on this matter. And that is fine. But I still stand by this on my opinion. That I see no reason to use egs and I don’t think they offer a good product. Competition is good when the competition is offering something better or more. Egs isn’t.
When talking about turnaround times, the approximate number of days, is that calendar or business days?
Both cgc and cbcs use business days. So divide by 5 to see how many weeks.
Business days
I bought a Crow 1 in an EGS slab that was labeled as a first print, cracked it out and of course it was a second print. Also, to the best of my knowledge, EGS does not check for restoration.
Wow! That is crazy. And that sucks. That is why I try to steer people away from egs or pgx.
Is there a max number of books I can send in an order? Is it 5, 10 100 comics at a time? Or maybe no limit at all.
CGC is king. But CGC is terrible.
True
What a job u did .. so much research…. Thank u … CGC gives u the best return…. Just don’t have bob bobson grade your moderns
Hahhaha that terrible Bob bobson
Agreed. Learned a Ton from this.
Summed up in three seconds...C.G.C
Lol I think that’s my NM98 CBCS 8.5 newsstand that was up for auction
Waiting for my first set to come back from CGC. I have a lot of signed comics so those will obviously go to CBCS. My only thing is where do I send in my Last Ronins?!?!?🤔🤔🤔
Cgc. Cuz if u get that 9.9 :)
@@ComicBookInvestments Touche!!!👍👍👍
CGC was great in the first few years. Great prices and they were spot on grading. Now…prices have gone up and quality has suffered. Maybe they need to hire more ppl and create a true standard that they use. You can send in multiple books that look perfect and they all get a 9.0 or 9.2. You can get a 9.0, crack it open, send back and get a 9.6. Or believe your 9.4 should be a 9.8. Crack it, send it and now it’s a 9.0. Almost always zero notes. You can set for nothing below 9.2 and they’ll send you books sealed and a 9.0. So I guess they don’t care what you asked for. Prices based off value makes zero sense either.
Then turn around times can be horrible. CGC needs to slow down, re-evaluate prices, hire quality graders that all go off a standard. 10 million but about 7 million worth of sloppy work.
Once egs or others bump their quality…CGC will lose ppl.
Dave great video.
Thanks
After a few Trainwreck submissions with CBCS it's only CGC for me.
It's crazy that EGS costs the same as CBCS (non-member). Why use them then?
I would say that if you just have a big collection and want to slap them for safety, PGX is probably fine.
CGC has the first to market advantage -very hard for others to overcome that - CBCS was founded by the guy who created the CGC grading scale and other top CGC talented graders from the start of CGC, so while later to market than other grading companies they have more belief by the market in their grades. PGX had some early scandals and still to this day make very bad errors on color touch or trimming etc. EGS...among other things.. will verify a signature based on a COA.....because no one could print their own COA???? Also MCS won't allow PGX books on their site - when top sellers won't sell your books that's a problem!
Nail on the head!
Great information!!!
thanks :)
@@ComicBookInvestments No, thank you
Saw a PGX the other day at 6.0 with a missing page that affected the story.
I heard this is an urban legend in the hobby, but supposedly someone submitted a TMNT 1 1st print to PGX and the book was stolen. The submitter received a facsimile or something counterfeit.
That is cray. I hope it isn’t real. But who knows
CGC doesn’t always have the grader’s notes anymore according to the operate I talked to.
If a book has no notes. Then there is none. But most have notes and you can look them up
So if the turnaround time is listed as 82 days, does it really take that long?
Someone said it earlier but I agree, why not ask Mr. Tony to sit down and have a 1 on 1 conversation with you?
I did. He said no. He said and I quote “my lawyers told me not to interact with you”. He didn’t like my first video. And someone contacted me to have a sit down with him after that video. So I reached out and he wasn’t about it.
There's proof that none of these companies are 100% accurate 100% of the time. I believe CGC is out growing their infrastructure and I have heard the customer service can be suspect. Let's add in the fact that Blackstone has purchased CGC so they're more pressured to please the parent company and share holders than the people submitting books...
You make great points and said everything you needed to say when contrasting these companies. CGC holds the value, that's why they matter; however, they are not perfect and I hope you realize that.
Yes they aren’t perfect. But in terms of holding their value. They are the best and can be trusted the best
@@ComicBookInvestments we agree there sir. Great video.
L🤣L!!! Great video, great info. However, I feel like (and I could be wrong) you made this video because people like myself kinda gave you the business when you made a video about EGS a while ago. You have mostly made your point but I have seen plenty of CGC unboxing videos (because you guys love giving them free advertising) where the individual can’t understand a grade they’ve received. On Regie collects Regie told a story about this collector who’s book was over graded. He thought with his flaws his book was a 9.2-9.4. He got a 9.8.
Now maybe you’ve seen SEVERAL EGS graded books but I’m sure you could make the same arguments about grading. I believe that you made the same argument before about the EGS graded DareDevil book. I get that’s an egregious example but can you honestly say a company that’s been around 20 years hasn’t made some pretty bad grading mistakes?
I will say that I’m convinced and when I start getting books graded I will stick with the BIG two.
I did make this video after that. I actually wanted to make this video for awhile now. The egs was off the cuff and wasn’t a true breakdown. But since that egs video came out. I was like. Well I better do a full breakdown of all of them like I’ve been wanting to. So it’s fair
On point! I wish I could figure out why he still can't apply the same standards and criticism to each company equally.
@@x11bravo I don’t think he brought up that your books could still be with the big two for a year unless you pay them the extra doe to speed up the process.
Do any of them tell you the notes that will be on slab. Ie… Wolverine s first appearance, Canadian price variant etc?
Usually that kind of stuff is always in the label
Sorry so you can see the notes they will put on slab before you complete order? Like a preview of the label so you know if it will include the labeling that you want
Bob Dobson of The Church of The Subgenius annoited this video with holy pipe smoking vibes. May Bob be with you.
I don’t know if I’m wrong but isn’t the founder of PGX and ex CGC employee as well?
I haven’t heard that before. So I cannot confirm or deny it. As I don’t know
I can’t sell anything other than CGC on eBay. I have to almost go raw prices on my CBCS. I’ve never had the guts to buy anything else. It’s dumb though. Side by side they look almost identical. People just don’t trust the other companies
Ya I’ve had similar experiences
Is a CGC green label (sketched & signed) less valuable than a yellow label (sketched & signed) I just need to know where I stand before I submit a copy of Alien #1 sketch & signed by will torres. It has a cert of authenticity but I'm not sure if CGC will give it a green or yellow label.
Cgc will give it a green label. But usually people buying know what it means. It’s not as good as a yellow label. But still should be ok
@@ComicBookInvestments I kinda thought that to be fair. How do you guarantee CGC will give it a yellow label. Do they need to actually be there to see the work done to the book?
CGC and CBCS in about 5-7 years people will look at them like PSA and Beckett
What happens after you submit to cgc,do they send you an email saying to ship your comics or when do you ship them out to them
Once you complete your order. You have to ship it to them. Then when they arrive and cgc checks them in. You will get a notification
@@ComicBookInvestments cool,thanks for explaining all the process for each one 👌
Note to self :
Do not piss off Dave from Comic book investments
Lol 😂 u won’t like it when I get angry. David smash
How does CGC determine if signed signatures on comics are legit?
Cgc only gives it a verified label if they witness the signature in person
@@ComicBookInvestments That's BS, how are they gonna be at every comic con or book signing in the country to do that!? I have around 12 Avengers comics that George Perez signed for me at SDCC in 2006 & you're telling me they won't accept them as legit cuz they weren't there to see him sign them?? So if I send them to CGC to get graded , they won't accept the GP signing/signature as being legit?
@@eduardolamboy4776 You will need to submit your books to CBCS to get the authentication yellow label. They usually charge $25 per book per signature to authenticate. CGC will not give you the signature label and they will mark the book as "name written in marker" on the label as well. Just go with CBCS for any books signed previously plus their new cases are the best out there at the moment!
@@hellskitchencollectable9768 Thanks for that info, much appreciated. How much of a difference in value does a CGC certified sig sell for over a comic sign certified by CBCS go for?
In other words, stick to CGC and be done with it.
Like to get Canadian Captain America #67 graded probably c g c but the way things are going l want to be careful.
I think you should be fine
i ;like pgx and egs
We get it, you love CGC, your married to them, CGC for life. Plus you hate young women in the MCU. Noted.
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@@loumonoph just watch his reviews on hawkeye show and dr.strange 2
About 2008 had a dealer in Toronto send them in forme.Dr Strange with black knight #178 and Hulk annual # 1and got a 7.5.
This is sort of Captain Obvious in most instances...
CGC is the only company I consider because buyers pay more for it. Always think about the next buyer when you want to buy.
Exactly! Cgc has its flaws. But it’s the best there is
Do not go to Halo!!! They are garbage. They had a Af 15 I bought in 2012 which was a 1.5 PGX copy which had distinct details on the book.. it was sold to another buyer who then had it graded from Halo and came back 2.5!!!!! Pure ridiculous as the books spine was very rough and was more like a 1.0 grade. Needless to say no one should trust that site after what I witnessed
Ya that is the problem with these new companies. They try and give the customer a better grade so they are happy