REAL LAWYER Reacts to Kramer vs. Kramer
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Kramer vs. Kramer is the classic 1979 divorce/child custody film starring the fabulous Meryl Streep and an unexpectedly hunky Dustin Hoffman. Join me for the wild ride of child custody proceedings!
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Lol Men in 80's movies be like: business is my whole personality
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Lol, reminded me of lego movie
And they'd sell their mothers soul to be successful.
"That kid WAS being a little shit, I don't know why you guys procreate." Me @ my colleagues yelling at their kids while they're trying to do a video conference 😅😅
"I am business! Business business!" I'm dead 🤣
When I was in law school I had the opportunity to clerk for a small firm that handled divorce and custody issues. I was always disgusted by how quickly the divorcing parents lost sight that it stopped being about what they wanted as soon as that kid came into their lives. It steered me away from family law pretty quickly. Kudos to lawyers who do it though, it's a really tough, depressing field. Great react video!!
Totally!!
I love your disclaimer! I've taken to saying it everytime you do. I want to use it in my normal life, but I know that you have the copyrights to it, as you have since the first time you said it. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to call myself a lawyer since I work in a restaurant and the only bar I've passed is the one I walk by to pick up my table's drinks. So from now on anytime a random table stops me to ask a question I shall give the disclaimer:
"Note, that I am a server, but I'm not your server. As I am not recieving that tip I may or may not bring back whatever you ask me for. You should always seek the assistance of your assigned server, before feeling confident that the extra side of ranch you asked for is actually being brought out to you from the kitchen."
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Blessed with new Leeja content, yessssssssssssssss. I'm fully a 90's kid but I have older parents and my mom, who is the least informed about any pop culture, remembers this film specifically because it depicted divorce in the 70's where 1) the wife/mom was the one instigating the leaving/separation/divorce and 2) the father actually fought for custody, which she said was pretty unusual. Remember, the 70's was when women were just being allowed to have credit cards in their own names, not attached to their husband or parents. This movie definitely doesn't reflect a lot of the current trends and ideas regarding separation/divorce/custody, but it's a really good window into what the mentality of the time was and like you said, the emotional journey of it all.
There's an episode from Grey's Anatomy season 12 episode 24 "Family Affrairs" where there's a trial on the custody of a minor between same sex-parents, it would be interesting to hear your take.
It was an interesting episode to watch because the different approach each lawyer took had an influence on the judge final decision, since each one of them focused on very different things to proof, even with the licenses they took on procedure it felt more like What not to do in a family custody trial.
Ooo interesting! 🧐🧐
Great episode! I +1 this
Yes it's utterly ridiculous but the ending is 👌
Oooo love this idea!!
Kramer vs. Kramer is one of the greatest american black comedy legal drama movies of all time. The story, perfomance's, music, images, direction, and cinematography was outstanding and incredible. It also gives a insightful and articulate representation of the psychology and fallout of divorce and touches upon prevailing or emerging social issues such as gender roles, women's rights, father's rights, work-life balance, single parents, loss, love, emotional resonance. Dustin Hoffman, Meryl Streep, and Justin Henry did a outstanding and incredible job. They all put emotion and depth into their roles. It was decent. To this day I still wacth it and I consider it a classic. It never gets old. 😍😎💯👍
I can’t seem to understand how you can look at this movie and look at it as simply men’s rights propaganda.
Her actions can’t be seen as legitimate in any way especially with her abandoning her son.
"i am business" + the arm shuffle = ICONIC..laughed so hard at that. love your videos btw
Hahahahh THANK YOU
Girl those cheeks are lit, I needed this to be a GRWM... I should have been a courtroom typist, I love yelling at people now and again
All Dustin Hoffman movies hit different the allegations about him a few years ago. Also: The explanation of custody law was actually super helpful and I loved your insights about court reporters just shouting at people to slow down. That happened yesterday at the Britney hearing. She got to rambling, talking to fast and the court reporter was like HELLO. RE: other films to comment on, maybe classic courtroom drama like Anatomy of a Murder, Witness for the Prosecution or Twelve Angry Men (I thought of the latter constantly on jury duty because dear lord was that the opposite of my experience).
Also worth of mentioning, apparently Dustin Hoffman harassed and severely manhandled Meryl Streep during the filming. He said that the attitudes were him "in his role" due to method acting. But Meryl considered he passed the boundaries. On one scene, he actually slapped her really hard without her consent or telling her beforehand. And on the other scene, Hoffman (without pre-noticing Meryl) threw a real wine glass to the wall really close to Meryl and got some glass shards stuck on her hair.
I always love your videos, but learning about court reporters screaming at people... Absolutely amazing
I remember seeing this as a kid and I loved it. Me and that kid had very similar lives accept my dad got custody of me.
When I teach Constitutional Law, I teach Weinberger v. Wiesenfeld in regards to possible gender discrimination against fathers. I learned about this case following Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s passing. She actually represented Mr. Wiesenfeld and his charge of gender discrimination against fathers. Ginsburg truly advocated for Justice for all regardless of gender.
Man I love your channel. As one of my professors used to say, "in family law, nobody wins!"
The prof that said that was a very hard ass criminal prosecutor (Crown up here in Canada). He did serial killers and biker assassins. He had a case where he was threatened with death more than once. I am almost all civil so it boggles my mind how he did that.
All that being said anyone that practices law as a litigator will get a death threat at some point. I got mine on my first case. When was your fist one? Keep up the amazing vids Leeja!
"I don't know why you guys procreate." Haha! Agreed.
If you think the male heavy lean of the film is gross, you should check out the behind the scenes stories. Hoffman straight up abused Streep on set. He hit her across the face without warning to elicit the response he wanted. At another point he mocked her recently deceased husband, John Cazale to try to get her into a headspace he wanted. Truly heinous stuff. (By all accounts, Streep was a consummate pro in the face of it all.)
Whaaaaaaat???? Ugh I take back what I said about him being hunky
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Yeah, let's just say the film doesn't look good in 2021 for a lot of different reasons...
www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/meryl-streep-kramer-vs-kramer-oscar
How’s the simping working out for you?
'Scuse me?!?!?! What on Earth?!?!?!?! This ACTUALLY HAPPENED??? That's horrible 😳😳😳!!!
This is what we call toxic feminism.
Portraying male as a victim makes a movie male leaning?
So the movies made in the present era about women makes them female leaning, right?
This is what I call toxic feminism.
I love the perspective you give. I just started watching your videos and have already learned so much!
Aw thank you!! Thanks for watching!
Also--the scene where Hoffman is in the ER with his son makes me bawl every time.
Thanks for the upload! I've watched every other video and didn't know what to do!
You go Glenn Coco!
Hahahaha omg thank you for watching!!! I’m gonna be pumping out more content VERY SOON
Remember to take care of yourself, Don't burn out!
Come #Christina with those "abandonment issues" runs #YasssssGurrrrl
I'm a gay but not your gay.. but I can be Leeja 🙂💚🏳️🌈🤔
Oooooh, I remember watching like, part of this movie with my Mummy (my name for my paternal grandma) but never finished it. Can't wait to see the law side of it! (By a real lawyer!!! But not my lawyer!)
Hey, Leeja!!! Love your videos. If you are looking for an 80's movie in which the Dad is not "Business, Business, I AM BUSiNESS!!!", watch "Mr. Mom" with Michael Keaton and Teri Garr. It's lighthearted and fun and Michael Keaton is super cute when he is battling a vacuum cleaner and washing machine. 😀
That’s the first movie that came to mind for me too!! I think that’s an excellent suggestion!!
Your content is amazing! You’re so refreshing, love your work and you leeja!
Aw thank you!!!!
I took a shot everytime you said “custody” and now I’m drunk 🤣
Hahaha omg iconic
The best "divorce" movie is a comedy/drama called The Women (circa 1939, not the drivel from 2008). As for recommendations for review, I would have to go with The Accused. It highlights the fact clothes, flirting, and drinking doesn't make it ok nor the blame of the victim
Ooo fascinating I haven’t seen it but it’s on my list!
Please make another video on Britney after the recent testimony!! appreciate your videos so much x
Do you have link???
Will do!! 😉
Would love to see your reaction to Marriage Story and possible do a comparison to this film. Loving all of your content, btw!
Judgement at Nuremberg is AMAZING! It’s LONG at 3+ hours but it’s SO GODDAMN GOOD.
I would love to hear your thoughts on it
Judy Garland should’ve won the Oscar for her role.
YESSS A NEW VIDEOOOO
Great video as always - and you are almost to 21k subscribers! 👏🏽
Yes just passed it!!! Thank you!
Movies in the 80's or 90's - Mrs. Doubtfire (1993) the Father was more of a clown then just business... But he loved his children to the extent that he dressed up like a woman so he could spend more time with them. At least that is what I could remember about the movie...
If you haven't done so yet, 12 angry men !?!?!
Clicked this so fast. Waking up with Leeja!
Could you do the movie Philadelphia
It’s on the list!!
I just finished watching the movie in order to watch your video. The whole scene where the lawyer is drilling her I kept thinking "objection, why is he yelling at her? He can't do that". I am very glad that you have taught me well and that I can now have a critical eye in this type of scene. Thank you Leeja, you are the best!!
Aw omg thank you that’s awesome!
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Ya know, I actually heard from both of my parents (they divorced when I was 5) when I was a kid that the courts are biased towards giving custody to the moms if the kids are young because "children should be with their mother" (which means they're automatically assuming that the mom is surely innocent or naturally a good mother). I remember this being an issue in my area until probably about 10 - 15 years ago. I know some of these old school judges are still floating around, though. It probably wasn't as common as it seemed when I was younger, but I would not be surprised if it was common in the 70's tbh (but, how common was divorce in the 70's anyway). All of your points, though 100%. Your videos are always so good :D
Also, did you hear that there have been developments in Britney Spears' case? :O
Future video idea... I'm a huge soap opera fan; General Hospital, Days, etc. I would LOVE a soap courtroom mashup! I know they're not realistic, but I think it'd be super fun to watch you react. You're awesome and you introduced me to Bussy's channel, thank you!
Hahahaha omg I bet that would be really fun
Thanks for the reaction and information!
My half siblings went through a 70s divorce. So, we r in the south (long tradition of mothers rights) and my dad was a little wild. Great guy but a functioning alcoholic at that time. His wife says, I've had enough, I've been having an affair and I'm leaving. By the way, u can have 1 through 4, I'm taking #5 dueces. So all of a sudden, here's dad and 4 kids under 10. Since she didn't want them it was open and shut. Dad couldn't afford one more mouth to fees so my poor sibling got stuck with her mom. It was wild. But, they all survived lol dad figured life out, remarried, and passed 3 years ago. He raised 4 strong independent women and 2 sons. There was so much more tea and drama in that situation lmao I've considered family court but I'd lose it over abuse
Gaurdian alights can be crooked as hell. Had a friend who had to have one, and then they went to trail and proved she was being biased and crooked. She was going to try and give the abusive father custody because he was the one who was paying the bills. Hopefully, after all this she is disbarred and people can appeal the custody agreement's who got screwed over. I can say in the state of Washington if someone has a DV charge they can never have full legal custody of children unless there is extreme circumstances.
Ooh, what highlighter are you using?
I know a female who went back to school to be a court reporter. She was I believe the 2nd to oldest female in her stenograph class. She only had her last child still at home. She would bring that stenograph machine while she being passenger on road trips with headphones on and listening to tapes and CDs that had practice work for her to type up.The machine doesn't have all the keys on it like a regular keyboard has. Stenography is like short hand handwriting plus using certain symbols too. Like the "at" in a email address @.That is actually a short hand for the word "at". The "at" symbol used in when court reporters had to type the word at. Stenography was taught in high schools from the 1940s-1970s. More females took the class for secretary skill type jobs. My mom found her old stenograph notebooks after 40yrs of graduating and actually remembered quite a bit of the short hand writing and symbols. Today court reporters don't use the stenograph machine. They use laptops now and type up the words plus audio record too.
Stop saying 'female'. You make the word fucking creepy.
The 1987 movie Baby Boom has Diane Keaton as a "business woman" and gives it all up to raise some obscure relative's baby. The only example I could think of where roles are reversed in a 1980's movie
Really enjoyed this video! Would love to see you cover Primal Fear.
Ooh!! I think there's only one courtroom scene but I would love to see you react to (maybe both versions of) Miracle on 34th Street. Maybe as a holiday special. Anyway, love the content. Keep it up!
Absolutely wonderful idea! I second.
Have you done A Few Good Men, To Kill A Mockingbird and Inherit The Wind yet? And yes to that highlight today. 👏🏽
The legal queen blessing us with another video
You’re a queen
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Love your videos! As always so illuminating. Would you be interested in reacting or analyzing Marriage Story. I think that film goes through a lot more of the settlement talks and the rest of the process. It’s not just straight to trial.
how about Boston Legal? have u ever reacted to any of the case presented on that show? i love Boston Legal.
4:03 that actor guest starred in season 4 of Charlie’s Angels (1980) as well as season 5 of The Golden Girls (1990) and he looks the same as he does both those times as here.
Would love to see you react to Season 1, Episode 5 of "The Good Fight" the episode actually deals with copyright, otherwise loving all the content. Thanks for keeping us entertained and informed!
First video of you and I am hooked!! A fellow Law Nerd shouted you out on an Emily D. Baker's livestream and you are just delightful 😘
Oh hey that’s amazing! Thanks for watching!
I came back for your soap box moments.
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Unikitty: business, business, business
Just recently found your channel, and I enjoy the content. I attempted law school in the 90s, but it wasn't for me. Still, I find law interesting and would like to suggest a movie I watched as a 1L: The Paper Chase. I remember enjoying it, even though it was pretty dated. Thanks for your content!
Great movie
You should do a reaction to Fracture. Anthony Hopkins plays a defendant who represents himself in a murder trial!
Watched this during my own parents divorce and now as an adult I have seen Marriage Story played out by friends. I think I have only seen one peaceful divorce and custody agreement
I like the film because it is the only film from the era I can remember where the average man is seen as capable of such love and devotion towards their child, even when it has been trust upon them. Loved the review.
Thanks for watching!!
I am once again asking for legally blonde covers🤚💅😁
She has done Legally Blonde look through her videos
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Also I've watched all of her videos. Including both legally blonde's😉
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Hi Leeja! I have been binge watching your videos the last few days. Your name is so unique (at least to me). Where did your name come from?
Thank you!!! Heh it’s from an old comic book called Magnus Robot Fighter. The damsel in distress was Leeja Clane.
I enjoy watching this
Whoa! I started following you after your BussyQueen reaction, but just had to say hi from a fellow Vassar alum! Clearly I was drawn to your smartness and style thanks to our shared educational heritage.
I have also never met Her Streepitude in person. My time there overlapped with Lisa Kudrow, and our paths may well have crossed, but I didn't actually know her. Basically my degree did not bring with it any celebrity connections, but I'm a proud alum nonetheless.
Obligatory question: what dorm, if you're willing to share? Cushing, here.
I know you've mentioned that you're not a family law expert, but I'd love to see you react to + comment on Marriage Story!
Do marriage story next!
I'd love to see more reactions to classic movies. One of my favorites is Judgment at Nuremberg.
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I think you did a great job early on in the video of getting across the nuances people need to remember about gender and the court system. It's nuanced, and every case is individual, and patriarchy hurts everyone 👏
I know other LawTubers have done this, but I'd love your take on My Cousin Vinny and the "Don't Be a Lawyer" song from My Crazy Ex-girlfriend. Please and thank you! 🙏 Big fan! HUGE!
your voice relaxes me please livestream your next case
I’ve thought about getting into livestreaming 🧐🧐
Our house is yearning for a reaction video to INTOLERABLE CRUELTY. Beautiful people making law at each other! Plus Heinz, the Baron Krauss von Espy!
Not sure if someone has suggested it already but I'd love to hear your take on the HBO show The Investigation... you may have to do a little research into Danish law but I think it would be really cool to hear how you think it compares to US law. Seemed really different to me!
Hook in 1991 the father (Robin Williams) is a corporate lawyer that specialises in corporate take overs
He is business!!!!!!!!
i literally watched this movie just so i can watch this lol
Hahahah omg
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION
You spoke of court reporters in this video a little and I was just curious of just how much authority they have in the courtroom. I mean, I’m sure anyone who is working in the courtroom should be afforded respect, but how much power do people like the bailiff and reporter have? Is there a type of hierarchy during proceedings? Great video, as always!
The judge definitely has the final say and the discretion to run the courtroom how they wish. The court reporters are (or should be) given a lot of respect and leeway to interrupt if things are going too fast or people are talking over each other, because it’s super important to have a clean record of everything both for public knowledge but also if either party wants to appeal. Bailiffs are also respected but generally they wait to do anything until they are needed.
@@LeejaMiller Thank you! Actual layman here, but I’m fascinated in learning about the and these videos do it such an interesting way! Please, keep it up!
In 2009-ish
My *literally PERFECT in every single way* ex boyfriend was granted legal custody of his 2 daughters (upon his release) while in a cobb county jail jumpsuit. The mother was in street clothes with a paid attorney & the judge was smart enough to really listen. The girls mom was a trainwreck who used the beloved stereotypical "I'm going to get cigarettes" trick stole his truck & dipped on their 3yr old & 4 month old. Almost 2 yrs went by till she wanted to see them. Whole lotta bad stuff happens... So yeah I agree dads are being looked at as capable single parents too. Too bad December 2019 Daniel Akers was murdered by his then new wife who tried to make it look like a suicide. I wish you'd look @ what could happen in a malice murder case in Georgia..... A friend of mine is interested.....
Have you ever thought about tackling some of the deposition scenes in Damages?
Ooo haven’t heard of that but I’ll take a look
@@LeejaMiller Glenn Close plays a big shot litigator in manhattan who will stop at nothing to get her clients as much Damages as possible. Rose Byrne is her innocent protege who she leads down a dark path. the first season has TedDanson and skullduggery and a murder and 3 intersecting timelines. And along the way some lawyering, too.
It’s very satisfying to watch a smart, glamorous lady yell at men that they are wrong.
Ms. Leeja simping over Meryl AND Dustin? We love to see it!!!! Also, am wondering about your reaction to Britney Spears' court appearance yesterday, especially given your two other videos concerning her and the conservatorship...?
Already on it!! Just need a lil time to gather my thoughts and film 🧐🧐🧐
In the late 70s early 80s its was very commonplace that the courts favored the mother in custody battles. ESPECIALLY in NY. My uncle was a civil attorney in NY around the same time and he said custody battles rarely ever ended with the father having custody, regardless of how strong the arguement was
Can you react to Defending Jacob? There's so much in that show that I'm like "whaaaat? is this allowed?? is this a thing?"
Ooo it’s on my list!
@@LeejaMiller 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 So excited to see your take on it!!
Streep rewrote her character's testimony herself.
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Is it time for a look at Liar Liar.....? 😀 A childhood favourite!
It’s on the list!!
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An icon, star and role model you are
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@@LeejaMiller I am studying to enter med school, not law school, but you still motivate me and are a role model, I want to be like you when I grow up. Hope you're well and stay safe!!!
Would you consider reacting to "Marriage Story" if you haven't already? It tackles the same topic. (If you have, i need to find it!)
I haven’t but I definitely thought of it as I was watching this one!!
Can you do the Mauritanian? It's a really good film!!
Watched liar liar ages ago and wonder your opinion on the comedy
Oh that’s def on the listttt
you should react to dirty john 2!!! although it's a whole ass series so that might be a bit much lmao
Maybe I will….. 🧐🧐
@@LeejaMiller queen shit! I just finished university and feeling LOST so your videos give me purpose, I feel like I’m studying again 💖 keep doing u
Aw thank you!!!
Can you react to The Housewife and the Hustler?
....and Justice For All, reaction please.
Didn't Hoffman and the director emotionally abuse Streep during this film? Like they ridiculed her and mocked her late boyfriend in order to get a better performance out of her?
I always hated Kramer vs Kramer, right from the first time I saw it. I hated the way the father became a parent only when he was forced to do it by his wife leaving. He had years to know his child and be present in his life and value the work his wife did but none of that happened until he, personally, had to do it. THEN it became valuable and important. THEN the kid became everything.
Meh. Some people are just parents without being forced to do it.
I would to see you do a reaction video to My Cousin Vinny!
hello my queen
I enjoyed the entertainment aspect of your video although your bias was very blatant.
i wanted to watch this film again but it's so much better to watch you watching it. i would die if u reacted to damages with glenn close. so murder me pls xx
We had to analyse this movie for AP English, so now I can't watch this movie objectively anymore :)
Love your take on this movie, great video. Really funny reading all the triggered MRA folks whining in the comments too! Delightful content.
Re: Interests of the Father: Have you seen Allen v. Farrow yet? I know that's kind of similar, but if you haven't seen it, fuck Woody Allen. Not to bury my lede. But Kirby Dick and Amy Ziering don't.
Allen V. Farrow was biased as hell. Woody was exonerated by two separate investigations and was never accused before or since of anything.
I'm a family law articling student (in Canada but the law is very similar to what was laid out as the 'best interest of the child test') and I think one of the reasons there is an impression of bias against father's in court is because of the strong preferences judges have for the status quo. I've seen more cases where the mother has primary care of the child and the father is trying to fight for custody for the first time than the other way around. I've also seen many cases where the mother is withholding the child and while the courts don't like mom's withholding the child the longer the father doesn't see his child the harder it will be for him to argue he should have primary care. I think we are still in a culture where if there is a separation the mother feels entitled to take the child with her, and that means she is starting a court case with the status quo in her favour. At least during Covid (where I am), you might be 6 months past your initial separation before you are in front of a judge. I do only legal aid work so maybe it is different if don't have the added barriers of income but I don't think I've had any cases this year that didn't have some kind of status quo already in place when the court case was first in front of a judge. And unless the status quo really isn't working for the child it's going to be hard to change.