I found your videos late but great time for my group. We are trying our hand at making personal history books. One of our group suggested we do gold leaf on the page’s edge. Your videos are clear and easy to follow. Thank you.
I'm glad he didn't give up making videos, now I'm telling you in all seriousness, I think your videos are the most educational, with detailed explanations and prompt answers to any questions, may God keep you healthy with motivation to work, and as many clients as possible to delight us with your videos and work I learned a lot much from you in terms of bookbinding, much respect for your work
I've never heard of a gold sprinkled edge! It's more visually interesting than solid gold in my opinion. As a fledgling book binder (I've made two text blocks and no covers so far) I have to thank you for your videos. They're so clear with what you're doing, and I always appreciate WHY you do something (even when it's "because that's how all the masters do it"). Thank you so much for sharing your passion and taking the time to teach us. Keep up the good work!
As someone new to this subject and just starting out as a hobby: I can’t thank you enough for all your videos and the insight and knowledge you have shared. They have helped me immensely.
You are so generous with your knowledge, skills and time! Thank you so much - I really appreciate it. People like you make the internet a fabulous and enriching place for learning.
Thank you so much for these videos. They are some of the best bookbinding instructional videos that I have seen. You are so generous with your time and knowledge.
Thank you! There are some really good (by more experienced people) videos available, just not freely on UA-cam. The new Trevor Lloyd finishing video is really good, and he is one of the best in the world.
@@DASBookbinding I was not aware that Trevor Lloyd had out a new video. Thank you for mentioning it. I love how you go step-by-step and give very clear and easy to understand explanations of what you are doing.
www.allaboutbookbinding.com/wp/ The bloke that made it I think is going into competition with me. The more bookbinding videos the better! I have the price advantage:)
Really liked the presentation of sprinkled gold. Have had a couple of goes at doing this, but had not been told about waiting for the size to last about 30 seconds. Getting that information made a lot of difference.
Congratulations on your 50th video Darryn - brilliantly done, as ever. This time next next year you'll have over 1000 subscribers. Betcha! Looking forward to whatever is next. Best wishes for the Holidays.
Thank you! All the best to you too for holidays. Next week is also due to some requests - double fan or lumbecking. Needed something a bit simpler because the next full project isn't finished yet.
Your videos have been really helpful i have been working as a bookbinder for the last year here in Jerusalem your experience and videos have been a joy to watch.
Hello!! I am a bookbinding fan and eternal apprentice. I just wanted to congratulate you for your channel, it is wonderful and your videos are very pleasant to watch. And above all, thank you for sharing all of your knowledge with us, i´ve learnt a lot from your videos, they inspire me every time i watch them. Greetings from Argentina :)
I am so delighted to discovered your videos, they are so informative and enjoyable to watch , thank you so much for sharing your knowledge . I have loads of book binding books, love the subject, have lots of materials and have even make some tool but I have only managed book blocks so far. with your vidio help I think I might actually try and make some covers.
Absolutely - just for you! I wish I was better at edge gilding. Practice! Once I can competently and repeatably do a rounded fore-edge I'll do a proper solid edge gilding video. Have only just taken on this challenge. Doing the fore-edge in the rough is much easier - but maybe not easy:)
i am a certified book binder unfortunately my 2 year course that was offered in my country covers all aspects of binding but we only touch on edge decoration i love the finishing of a book so i must do research and i came across this video i am going to watch the others thank you for showing your work
We all start somewhere. While it can be frustrating it's better to make do than not to get started. I still make do in some areas considering the work I do. Even though I have a nice old board cutter I envy shops that can cut the full width of a roll of book cloth on the board cutter. It would save me so much time. Happy binding and take care, DAS
Oh 😲 I understand now : I read why to use the Talc -PREPARATIONS Before placing the book into the press, the edge needs to be dusted with talc. Talc (magnesium silicate hydroxide and sometimes called French chalk), keeps the pages from sticking together during the wet processes which follow. Do not use the talc manufactured for babies: it may contain silicone (which will resist the wet preparations) or it may actually be cornstarch (better for the baby, but for us it functions as an adhesive).! 💖👍🏻
First step in preparing the edge. Okay, maybe second. Right after cutting the edge either on the guillotine or with the plough. Change to the gilding boards and then smooth the edge by scrapping then sanding. For a long time I didn't have gilding boards and just used square pieces of wood. Worked, but I now have a higher success rate.
I would love to see a real-time video of on how to make your chemicals. Almost like a cooking show. Your book paste, your gold gilding liquids. But not in a fast forward setting. Also maybe if because I'm in America there are different products I could use or buy. the fast forwarding you do always confuses me I know there's a lot of repetitiveness but when it comes to the the chemicals and the liquids I can really use a slow down version and maybe even a product detail of where to buy or what to buy.
Sorry the speed is not helping you. I have started adding materials lists to all new videos and will go back and add to old videos - slowly. I'm including sources in as many regions as possible. I'm afraid YT videos that move slowly don't do well and the common wisdom is that poor performing videos can damage your channel. I am also doing short more specific videos. Once I've done a few more videos on different edge gilding techniques I might do an overview of glaire and size used in edge decoration. But I'll try and prioritise the materials list for this video. All the best, Darryn
Hi! Newbie bookbinder here! First of, thank you for clearing up so many of my roadblocks on this journey. I have two questions; (1) If I wanted to add a different colour instead of the red bol underneath the gold sprinkles at what stage would I do that? (2) Also, what type of brush are your using to push the gold through the mesh? I know you said a toothbrush would work, but yours seems to be doing a great job. Thank you.
At the 4 minute mark. Paint on your colour instead of the bole. If you don;t want to use bole before preparing the edge, just paint on size. The brush is from a pack of 3 I bought on impulse at an office supply store because it was on sale. I'm sure they are hog bristle 10mm diameter and 20mm long. They may have been described as stencil brushes. Happy binding!!
I'm not sure if imitation gold leaf is a metal beaten out very thin. If so, maybe. Gold is so malleable which is why it can be beaten so thin. I suspect any other metal couldn't be beaten so thin, and thus would be too strong to brush through the sieve. 1 book of gold leaf will do a lot of projects and is not super expensive. I won't go as far as to say it's cheap. All the best, DAS
13:34 omg thank you so much for mentioning the alternative, as i cant find the armenian bole in my country. I also can't seem to find the agate burnisher, could you recommend an alternative for burnishing?
The black stripes in the book with yellow and black was done with graphite. I did a workshop with a master of graphite edges last year. My work looks very pedestrian compared to his. It's on the list. The basics are simpler than you might think. Do the same edge prep as for the gold. Get the very fine powdered artists graphite. Use a 1:8 egg glaire instead of the PVA size to mix with the graphite. Make it the same milk consistency of the bole. Apply just like a solid colour. But before burnishing use a thumb or finger to rub the graphite into the edge in a circular motion to get an even coverage. If you use bare fingers everything you touch for the next few days will get a black finger print:). Then burnish. To get the highly polished metallic black look takes lots of burnishing and coats of bees wax.
@@DASBookbinding hmm, I think that will have to wait until I have more equipment. One beginener-friendly alternative I've been experimenting with is to sand the edge smooth then rub a piece of carbon paper on it vigorously (I usually wrap it around a sponge). Once burnished with wax it gives a dark shiny edge. Not as nice as actual graphite but more within my capabilities for the moment.
It looks like you already rounded and backed this book before you did this edge gilding. If you wanted to do this to all three edges, would you gild the fore edge first, and then round the book before proceeding to the head and tail?
Yes. But rounded and backs first. Yes, if you want to do the fore-edge, do it before rounding. It is possible to guild a rounded fore-edge. I've not managed it yet. You probably could sprinkle with gold after rounding.
I would just add it to the total for the book. Maybe 15 minutes for sprinkled edges. Foiling for the covers depends on whether it's just a title. I've never had dies made, but I know someone that does. It would be his time plus the cost of dies. But I wouldn't do just the edges of a book someone brings to me. It's part of the package. Then it depends on your hourly rate. Mine is $120/hr
You’d be surprised how many hobby binders have this gear. It’s no more expensive than say a good sewing machine. But some boards and wood clamps will work for this project. All the best. DAS
Ooh paint! A dark blue with silver coloured leaf speckles? A starry night😀
I found your videos late but great time for my group. We are trying our hand at making personal history books. One of our group suggested we do gold leaf on the page’s edge. Your videos are clear and easy to follow. Thank you.
I'm glad he didn't give up making videos, now I'm telling you in all seriousness, I think your videos are the most educational, with detailed explanations and prompt answers to any questions, may God keep you healthy with motivation to work, and as many clients as possible to delight us with your videos and work
I learned a lot
much from you in terms of bookbinding, much respect for your work
Thanks!
I've never heard of a gold sprinkled edge! It's more visually interesting than solid gold in my opinion.
As a fledgling book binder (I've made two text blocks and no covers so far) I have to thank you for your videos. They're so clear with what you're doing, and I always appreciate WHY you do something (even when it's "because that's how all the masters do it"). Thank you so much for sharing your passion and taking the time to teach us. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
As someone new to this subject and just starting out as a hobby: I can’t thank you enough for all your videos and the insight and knowledge you have shared. They have helped me immensely.
Glad to help. Happy binding! DAS
You are so generous with your knowledge, skills and time! Thank you so much - I really appreciate it. People like you make the internet a fabulous and enriching place for learning.
I am learning so much and am very gratefull that you are referencing your sources too ❤️
Thank you so much for these videos. They are some of the best bookbinding instructional videos that I have seen. You are so generous with your time and knowledge.
Thank you! There are some really good (by more experienced people) videos available, just not freely on UA-cam. The new Trevor Lloyd finishing video is really good, and he is one of the best in the world.
@@DASBookbinding I was not aware that Trevor Lloyd had out a new video. Thank you for mentioning it. I love how you go step-by-step and give very clear and easy to understand explanations of what you are doing.
www.allaboutbookbinding.com/wp/
The bloke that made it I think is going into competition with me. The more bookbinding videos the better! I have the price advantage:)
This is an amazing technique. How many beautiful books will be the result of binders watching your lessons.
What an excellent thought. Thanks! DAS
This is fabulous, both a primer and refresher all at once.
Thank you so incredibly much for these videos! The density of information is unmatched. You're a wealth of knowledge and I just love what you do!
You are so welcome! DAS
Congrats on your 50th video. With your clear, no-nonsense delivery I've enjoyed and learned so much from each of them. Thank you
Thank you, and you're welcome!
Perfect video, very clear!!! Thanks very much Sir
Really liked the presentation of sprinkled gold. Have had a couple of goes at doing this, but had not been told about waiting for the size to last about 30 seconds. Getting that information made a lot of difference.
New to bookbinding and found your channel through r/bookbinding
No clue how you don’t have more views. Keep up the great work. Subscribed.
Thank you so much! All the best, Darryn
Congratulation on the 50th video!
Hope you’ll keep making more in the years to come.
Thank you. I don't know how long I can manage 1 a week, but I enjoy it, so will continue while I still have new ideas and the skill to deliver them.
Congratulations on your 50th video Darryn - brilliantly done, as ever.
This time next next year you'll have over 1000 subscribers. Betcha!
Looking forward to whatever is next. Best wishes for the Holidays.
Thank you! All the best to you too for holidays.
Next week is also due to some requests - double fan or lumbecking. Needed something a bit simpler because the next full project isn't finished yet.
Your videos have been really helpful i have been working as a bookbinder for the last year here in Jerusalem your experience and videos have been a joy to watch.
Wonderful to hear from you. Happy binding! Darryn
Hello!! I am a bookbinding fan and eternal apprentice. I just wanted to congratulate you for your channel, it is wonderful and your videos are very pleasant to watch. And above all, thank you for sharing all of your knowledge with us, i´ve learnt a lot from your videos, they inspire me every time i watch them.
Greetings from Argentina :)
Wonderful to hear from Argentina!! We're all eternal apprentices:) All the best, DAS
😯 You are inspiring! I can’t wait to try this!
I am so delighted to discovered your videos, they are so informative and enjoyable to watch , thank you so much for sharing your knowledge . I have loads of book binding books, love the subject, have lots of materials and have even make some tool but I have only managed book blocks so far. with your vidio help I think I might actually try and make some covers.
Go for it!! Happy binding, DAS
Edge gilding! Thanks for listening to my request! (I'm going to flatter myself and imagine that's why you did this ;-) Keep up the awesome content!
Absolutely - just for you! I wish I was better at edge gilding. Practice! Once I can competently and repeatably do a rounded fore-edge I'll do a proper solid edge gilding video. Have only just taken on this challenge. Doing the fore-edge in the rough is much easier - but maybe not easy:)
Congratulations on the 50th video. Great topic and thanks for sharing. Enjoyed it so much andvery inspired to do it for my next binding.
Close to 80 videos now. Thanks! DAS
i am a certified book binder unfortunately my 2 year course that was offered in my country covers all aspects of binding but we only touch on edge decoration i love the finishing of a book so i must do research and i came across this video i am going to watch the others thank you for showing your work
Your projects are A M A Z I N G !!!
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy them! All the best, Darryn
So very lovely!
Bloody awesome! Wish I could afford the tools to begin doing this. Your videos are impressive.
We all start somewhere. While it can be frustrating it's better to make do than not to get started. I still make do in some areas considering the work I do. Even though I have a nice old board cutter I envy shops that can cut the full width of a roll of book cloth on the board cutter. It would save me so much time. Happy binding and take care, DAS
Thank you and a happy new year !
Happy New Year to you too!
god bless you . thank you for video
Great content and editing!
Oh 😲 I understand now : I read why to use the Talc
-PREPARATIONS
Before placing the book into the press, the edge needs to be dusted with talc. Talc (magnesium silicate hydroxide and sometimes called French chalk), keeps the pages from sticking together during the wet processes which follow. Do not use the talc manufactured for babies: it may contain silicone (which will resist the wet preparations) or it may actually be cornstarch (better for the baby, but for us it functions as an adhesive).! 💖👍🏻
That's correct. It's hard getting pure talc. DAS
DAS Bookbinding where to purchase this talc for bookbinding? MPW
Great video - could you let me know what you use for the guilding boards and the scrapper - thanks Jim
First step in preparing the edge. Okay, maybe second. Right after cutting the edge either on the guillotine or with the plough. Change to the gilding boards and then smooth the edge by scrapping then sanding. For a long time I didn't have gilding boards and just used square pieces of wood. Worked, but I now have a higher success rate.
I would love to see a real-time video of on how to make your chemicals. Almost like a cooking show. Your book paste, your gold gilding liquids. But not in a fast forward setting. Also maybe if because I'm in America there are different products I could use or buy. the fast forwarding you do always confuses me I know there's a lot of repetitiveness but when it comes to the the chemicals and the liquids I can really use a slow down version and maybe even a product detail of where to buy or what to buy.
Sorry the speed is not helping you. I have started adding materials lists to all new videos and will go back and add to old videos - slowly. I'm including sources in as many regions as possible. I'm afraid YT videos that move slowly don't do well and the common wisdom is that poor performing videos can damage your channel. I am also doing short more specific videos. Once I've done a few more videos on different edge gilding techniques I might do an overview of glaire and size used in edge decoration. But I'll try and prioritise the materials list for this video. All the best, Darryn
Hi! Newbie bookbinder here! First of, thank you for clearing up so many of my roadblocks on this journey. I have two questions; (1) If I wanted to add a different colour instead of the red bol underneath the gold sprinkles at what stage would I do that? (2) Also, what type of brush are your using to push the gold through the mesh? I know you said a toothbrush would work, but yours seems to be doing a great job. Thank you.
At the 4 minute mark. Paint on your colour instead of the bole. If you don;t want to use bole before preparing the edge, just paint on size. The brush is from a pack of 3 I bought on impulse at an office supply store because it was on sale. I'm sure they are hog bristle 10mm diameter and 20mm long. They may have been described as stencil brushes. Happy binding!!
Such an educational video!! Congratulations Darryn
Thanks! Yes, I made these myself. The smaller size of gold leaf is 80mm. So I made the frame 100mm square. The material is organza silk.
Very nice! I've never used gold leaf, but I'm curious if this would work with the "imitation" gold leaf.
I'm not sure if imitation gold leaf is a metal beaten out very thin. If so, maybe. Gold is so malleable which is why it can be beaten so thin. I suspect any other metal couldn't be beaten so thin, and thus would be too strong to brush through the sieve. 1 book of gold leaf will do a lot of projects and is not super expensive. I won't go as far as to say it's cheap. All the best,
DAS
@@DASBookbinding Thank you, DAS!
13:34 omg thank you so much for mentioning the alternative, as i cant find the armenian bole in my country. I also can't seem to find the agate burnisher, could you recommend an alternative for burnishing?
I know people who use polished quartz stones. DAS
I've never heard of this before, but now I definitely want to try it. Will we get a video on graphite edges?
The black stripes in the book with yellow and black was done with graphite. I did a workshop with a master of graphite edges last year. My work looks very pedestrian compared to his. It's on the list. The basics are simpler than you might think. Do the same edge prep as for the gold. Get the very fine powdered artists graphite. Use a 1:8 egg glaire instead of the PVA size to mix with the graphite. Make it the same milk consistency of the bole. Apply just like a solid colour. But before burnishing use a thumb or finger to rub the graphite into the edge in a circular motion to get an even coverage. If you use bare fingers everything you touch for the next few days will get a black finger print:). Then burnish. To get the highly polished metallic black look takes lots of burnishing and coats of bees wax.
@@DASBookbinding hmm, I think that will have to wait until I have more equipment. One beginener-friendly alternative I've been experimenting with is to sand the edge smooth then rub a piece of carbon paper on it vigorously (I usually wrap it around a sponge). Once burnished with wax it gives a dark shiny edge. Not as nice as actual graphite but more within my capabilities for the moment.
Wow, so that what its called, the graphite edge. First time I seen and heard of it. Do you have a link to an example of an master's work?
It looks like you already rounded and backed this book before you did this edge gilding. If you wanted to do this to all three edges, would you gild the fore edge first, and then round the book before proceeding to the head and tail?
Yes. But rounded and backs first. Yes, if you want to do the fore-edge, do it before rounding. It is possible to guild a rounded fore-edge. I've not managed it yet. You probably could sprinkle with gold after rounding.
Love this Thank You!!!!!!!!!
Believe it or not, I prefer the dappled gold edge. Solid gold leaf scratches so easily and this one is more forgiving.
how much would charge for sprinke and foiling a book cover
I would just add it to the total for the book. Maybe 15 minutes for sprinkled edges. Foiling for the covers depends on whether it's just a title. I've never had dies made, but I know someone that does. It would be his time plus the cost of dies. But I wouldn't do just the edges of a book someone brings to me. It's part of the package. Then it depends on your hourly rate. Mine is $120/hr
I bought a really nice book and id like all the picturess on the cover gold foilded@@DASBookbinding
Boa noite mestre, quanto aprendizado com você que país vc reside
That’s great to hear. I’m in Australia. Happy Binding!
nobody has press like you do to hold the binding together for diy
You’d be surprised how many hobby binders have this gear. It’s no more expensive than say a good sewing machine. But some boards and wood clamps will work for this project. All the best. DAS