DIY Guitar Pickup Baseplate Experiment (4 Designs Shootout!)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Experiment to determine how much baseplate design and material changes the sound in a guitar pickup.
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the horseshoe and copper sounded the best, you were right the copper did have more bass, thank's,
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a kind comment Paul. I knew I didn't have any horseshoe magnets so I had wanted to try this with metal since way back when you made that suggestion but when the other guy said something about it I was like yep its about that time. Then I thought well we gotta make a comparison so I might as well do some other shapes too. I was quite surprised by the difference in tones and also pleased that the copper did in fact lower the resonant frequency like I theorized in my split coil humbucker video. Thanks again for the suggestion it was a good one!
Knowing how the the real Horseshoes are made, i was blown away at how much just the metal 'horseshoe' worked. That was really striking, wow.
The real ones, btw, are like the fridge magnets where one leg of the u is North and the other south, and it's the two of them forced together North to North and South to South. This seems way simpler and still really damn effective, makes me wanna try this now, wow.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment Alaric. I had this idea for quite a while and I also had my doubts as how well it would actually work. I was well surprised by the outcome. I was afraid it wouldn't make enough of a difference to capture on a room mic and translate over youtube compression but when I started editing I was thinking oh crap. People are going to think this is fake. I do wish I had some cobalt steel straps to make a genuine copy of the horseshoe pickup but ill keep it in the back of my mind and if I get the chance I'll jump on it.
I love that vise bolted to the dirt. This guy is a GENIUS!
Thank you for watching and taking the time to write a funny comment P.Chavez. Thats the only place for one bro. Its too hot in the shop to use it on the bench. Really though Ive never bolted it down at all. I'm always moving it around too much and often use it as an anvil. Ive even used it with a string to remotely test fire a pew pew stick... it flew across the ground like a tumble weed. LOL
Wow, you blew my mind with the copper baseplate pickup. This totally destroys the commonly held belief among pickup builders that using a copper baseplate is like poison to the sound of a pickup because it messes with the eddy currents. Great job, myth busted.
As for why the jaguar pickup configuration sounds so weak, the claw is supposed to be the opposite polarity of the pole pieces to give the magnetic flux a return path. If you were to put the magnet between the pickup bobbin and the steel claw, it would sound alot better.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment Peacekeeper. Yes, I used that technique with the copper in a split coil 3 pole humbucker build... basically a z-coil like a G&L Comanche or a p-bass neck pickup and I knew people would call me crazy and I said as much. So I explained my thought and reasons behind it and showed a graph etc. I used 2 plates and wired them in series with the negative side of the coil to cause even more of an effect and get some bonus sheilding... but still I saw a video shortly after... poo pooing the idea, even though the pickups in the video sounded as thick as cold lard???
Heck here's a link: ua-cam.com/video/Nz5GDlFqHO4/v-deo.html
That is a good point on the jaguar design! I hadn't considered that. I can totally see how the "claw" being the opposite magnetic polarity would cause that eddy current to circle right back around, basically causing 2 little rotating fields instead of 1 super narrow confined 1.
@@heavymetalATC The pleasure is all mine. I love how you just make due with what you have on hand and get to building while the rest of us putz around worrying about the small stuff. It's an admirable work ethic I could only wish to have again. When I started winding pickups (@ 16 y/o c.1998), I would experiment with reckless abandon using whatever materials I could find around the house, now I just wait around for packages from Mojotone to show up on my doorstep. What I haven't lost though is my dedication to always trying to do something different which is what I admire in your videos.
I've seen your z coil video and despite you 'breaking the rules' of common beliefs about copper being 'bad', the tiny (by comparison) z coil beat out the more conventionally designed P90/jazzmaster pickup signal strength wise. I'd have to admit I've been a bit susceptible to some of these myths myself because I was under the impression the people making these claims have tried it out for themselves when in reality, they probably just read it somewhere. It goes to show that one experiment is worth more than 100 pages of theory. Keep on keeping on my friend and I'll keep on watching👍
@@heavymetalATC I also did not know you're a fan as well of someordinarygamers
Best content on the internet. I gotta start making pickups to fiddle with. Between this and the gold foil, i’m saving a ton of parts.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to leave such a kind comment Jeffrey. Its definitely a fun hobby. I probably wouldn't do nearly as much of it without the UA-cam channel and all the suggestions I get from the viewers but even so.. it is a rabbit hole of sorts. After you get the first one working it becomes an addiction of sorts and then the mind goes wild with all the possibilities and what ifs and the experiments more often than not will produce results that are the complete opposite of everything you have always heard and read about guitars and guitar pickups.
@@heavymetalATC i have 3 project guitars going and it’s always the tools and the pickups that cost the most. Cool to see the breakdowns on how to make some barebones gear without breaking the bank to do it. Also cool that you’ve been doing some of the more unique stuff. Rock on
Awesome you're back! I was really bummed that you hadn't posted in a long time. You do the kind of practical experimentation that the UA-cam guitar community is sadly missing. The copper baseplate was like a power boost. i was very surprised by that.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to leave such a kind comment Crispy. I had used that copper trick on my 3 pole split coil humbucker build and I had very good luck with it. Basically its like a thick fluid to the eddy current it wont let the electrons shake as fast so it causes the resonant peak to be shifted to the lower frequencies so it gets bassier and bass is a big wide wave so its got the fatness and balls!
Gotta build a Rat Caster with all these wild homemade pickups. So cool, man. Another great experiment. Also people complaining about using a 'guitar' amp clearly don't know much about amplifiers. I could turn my car stereo into a 'guitar amp' if I wanted to. It'd probably sound good too, super clean.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to write a comment Joshua. I wish it wasnt so hot outside I have a that guitar I made out of a table like 99% completed its gonna get the p90 and 3 pole split coil humbucker. Yeah, I can understand why the guy said it on the video with the shotgun shell pickup because it did sound very strange but I love using that keyboard amp for this because it its full range. A normal guitar amp has a mid hump EQ built in just from the coupling capacitor and speaker selection that colors the sound but the keyboard amp is flat EQ just like a PA system or a studio monitor, its not trying to jazz up the sound or make it sound cool... its just telling it like it is.
@@heavymetalATC I totally get that. That's why I like using preamps with powered monitors. Similar effect. Cleans are flat and clean. Can't wait to see more, man.
Man, this is another fabulous video. I was floored that I could hear such a difference. I'm gonna have to try to build one of them horseshoe pickups.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to leave such a kind comment Erick. I was also very surprised to hear a such a difference myself. I bet if you used a thicker piece of steel you would get even more of an effect. ;)
Hey Clementine, you pronounced my name right, the first time. I was wondering when you would make this video, so by chance i bumped into it. I thought that i was subscribed, but i wasn't. Now i am. You can call this video a success because you can clearly hear the differences in the various baseplates, however that experimental horse shoe thing is not sounding the way it should be. The typical sound difference IMHO between a real (old) rickenbacher horse-shoe pickup and a 'normal', say fender or gibson pickup, is that with the horse-shoe pickup the higher pitched strings sound thicker, while the lower pitched strings don't sound muddy.
If i could find the right alloy steel, with magnetic properties, i am sure i could make a real horse-shoe pickup.
To hear how it sounds, i have made a video with my old 1948 NS Rickenbacher, without amplifier or EQ, just the lapsteel straight into the sound-cart.
ua-cam.com/video/5jnWFXgYpw4/v-deo.html
Meanwhile i hope you keep experimenting, we all can learn a lot from that.
Best Regards
Jean
Dude you rock!!!!! I love your videos, most entertaining and informative thing on UA-cam. Keep 'em coming and keep going were everyone else is scared too. 🤘🤯🤘
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to write such a kind comment Shyfire. I'm just trying to get the most bang I can for no bucks LOL! I have been trying to work some brand deals out this week though. I would like to do some reviews on some of the inexpensive products out there that are still decent for the $ and then show some cheap, free and wild mods that can be done to make um rock. Fingers crossed we can get some of that going soon.
The horseshoe sounds like a bit like a Dobro/National, the brass really did sound loud and warm, cool experiment.
This is gold !!!
the beauchamp comment had me dead, lmao.
watching this video has made me realize i need to work pickups into a pick-up line somehow. "baby are you a PAF? billy gibbons want to overpay for you"
LOL Thank you for watching and leaving a comical comment Andrew. when I saw that that guy had written that I had to do a double take.
Hmmm Its hard to come up with a "pickup-line" You look like a humbucker sounds... fuzzy and thicc HAhaha! Baby are you a single coil cause it looks like you've had 6 poles shoved through you. LOLOLOL! I used to hear some funny ones working as a welder/fabricator. Welders have the hottest rods... Welders know how to get good penetration in all positions < now that one just sounds purely dirty but those are actual welding terms.
Players known for their slide playing often gravitate towards horseshoe pickups at the bridge. My sense is that the horseshoe design enhances the pickup's ability to sense the string longer into its decay. Listen to players like Ry Cooder or Blake MIlls (both of whom play horseshoes by the bridge), and you'll hear them able to coax sound out of their guitars with a slide long after other guitars/pickups would have given up the ghost. So, I applaud your efforts and experimental spirit, but you didn't really test the horseshoe under the conditions it was meant for.
I rewound a Jaguar pickup for myself a couple years back. The interesting thing about the "claw" is that it isn't directly coupled to the bottom of the polepieces. It's certainly *close* to them, but not directly in contact. The claw tends to yield a gutsier toner IMO.
Note that many older pickup designs, like the fabled "gold foil" and Epiphone New Yorker, also reshaped the sensing area. Both employed base plates that were coupled to the bottom pole of the bar magnet, and were bent up on one side, such that the sensing area was between the top of the bent-up side and the top of the magnet. Both types have the superficial appearance of being dual coil, given the row of adjustable screws, but the screws are simply anchored into the bent baseplate and not into a coil.
Horseshoes rock! Fun stuff man! The string just keeps on ringing like a lap steel once you strike it. I’ve Never had another ever pickup do that. I did a video testing it out but still need to build the appropriate permanent guitar for it.
HOly Crap Dominic. I watched many of your videos back before I did this. I would love to get ahold of a real one or some similar magnets and see if I could give a go a copying it much better. I remember hearing how it was feeding back harmonics with the slide... hell I subbed to your channel. Thank you for checking my stuff out. This youtube thing is a trip sometimes.
@@heavymetalATC Wow! I’m honored to have inspired another tone sleuth and I just subbed your channel! I love that UA-cam allows us to explore and share what things can really do. Aren’t those tele plates a kick! I’m building a space to document and record guitar builds, experiments and modifications and then the new “Monster Magnet” horseshoe guitar is #1 on the list. I can attest there’s lots of copper in there. The increased magnetic field feels to me like a passive, albeit weak eBow. You could do a controlled test and take a bass horseshoe, swap in a HiGain, toaster or HB1 and test if the horseshoes, pole pieces or “bass” pickups make a difference all at the same time. Cheers!
I need to fabricate a different shaped backing plate for a P90. Now I'm dealing with option anxiety 🤔
There really is a marked difference in them.
I was tempted to use aluminium but thinking steel or brass might be closer to standard, now I'm looking at copper and maybe a bass cut pot 🙄 it's going in a neck position of an old hollow body with a 59 PAF style in the bridge.
Good video.
Hey Clemintine, glad to see you back! It's been a while. I've missed your experiments.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to leave such a kind comment Peter. Its good to be back!
Really cool video, and awesome channel too. I was really surprised by how audible the differences were between all of these (which is such a breath of fresh air when compared to the countless guitar tone videos based on placebo effects). I was super shocked by how the Jaguar pickup turned out though, so being the nerd I am I dug up the patent for it, and I think I found the issue.
This is part Leo's explanation of the teeth in the patent:
"The provision of the notches and associated teeth is also important for the forcing of the lines of force through the strings. If the upper edges of the flanges were merely straight, the lines of force from the various poles would fan out to various undetermined positions along such edges, which would reduce the tendency of the lines of force to pass through the strings. Since the upper flange edges are formed with teeth, all of such teeth are of the same polarity. The teeth being of the same polarity, they repel each other and cause the lines of force to bunch or hump up until large numbers thereof pass through the strings."
So I think the teeth actually play a very important role in directing the magnetic field to actually improve performance, rather than hinder it, and that's the key ingredient in Leo's Jaguar pickups. I think that would also be an interesting topic for a future video too, if you actually see this comment 😉
Thank you for watching and taking the time to type out this awesome information Andrew!
Hahhahaha! Yes I did a very similar thing recently when looking into building or purchasing some yamaha ns-10 speakers. I wanted to see that PATENT INFO!
I put this comment down in my notes, great suggestion. this is definitely worth looking into and would make great content as well, Id like to have the results of a few experiments for my own building/designing toolbox.
One viewer pointed out that another reason it may have acted so strongly in the example in the video is that the metal "tray" was inside the "magnetic circuit" with the coil as apposed to the jag pickups hat have alnico slugs in the coil and the tray under the pickup outside of the magnetic field.
I dont know a ton about magnets and stuff like that and I never even heard of a magnetic circuit until some highly educated people left comments I couldnt understand very well. I work from intuition and have no education or training of any kind. ;)
This is however a very interesting area for testing... we apply youtube logic: what about a copper tray, with teeth and sharp teeth vs dull and what if they are taller than the pickup and angled in?... so on and on until maybe you have a pickup resembling a lead swiss roll?
Good stuff.
leo fender was a thinkerer he just trew mud against a wall and checked wat stuck he mustve tried 1000ths or differently wound pickups with all sorts of magnets to see how they sounded in his guitar
he worked kindof the same way you do he just applied it to serial production guitars so there was a cost involved side to it as well
hmmm copper backing has a seriously different tone to it , wonder if that difference would be heared on that p180 you made would mean putting the metal bar and the magnets under the copper plate
DylanTalksTone says that copper plates are cheaper but do reduce the highs.
It would be nice if you could talk more about your results for those of us who have bad monitor speakers or youtube compression - if that is a real thing.
I wonder what sort of effect using 999 silver plated copper would have? There is a test you can do on 999 silver to see if it is indeed pure silver by putting a silver bar or coin at a certain angle and putting a neo magnet on it and letting it slide down (if it's 999 silver, the magnet will slide down slower than if it's not 999 silver as there is some magnetic interaction between the 999 silver and the copper). So maybe silver plated copper will have its own unique effect? You can silver plate copper using a 9v battery and 999 silver on one side and copper on the other side.
Nice Lyon, I have the same one. Bought it at a pawn shop for $25!
Thanks for watching Douglas. Yes, this poor guitar has been through hell and 1/2 I've put all manor of pickups and electronics in it, reverb springs.. speakers, Its been a cornerstone of the channel for sure. I think I paid $30 for this one maybe $60??? It's definitely been worth the purchase. Sooo many experiments.
@@heavymetalATC So has mine. I originally bought it for parts for an old Crate Super strat copy that I fixed up and put alnico singles and a shielded alnico him bucket on (the old Japanese pots started giving me trouble) but after I got it home and played it, it was so nice, i didn't have the heart to strip it, it was in too good of a condition. I probably play it more than my Ibanez, and all the rest. I have had it for over ten years now, and it is still the fastest neck I have.
Outstanding experiment!
I like the sound that the copper creates.
Hand me that SPF50, for that Coppertoan. Copper sounded great.
Interesting, entertaining and awesome as always!! Great job!
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to write such a kind comment Elias. I was personally quite surprised by the results myself.
Awesome experiment, very useful
I have a question?
I have a pair of rails humbuckers (full size humbuckers) with toaster like pickup covers.
The cover is also slightly higher (closer to the strings) than the rail magnet
Based on the "jaguar" style plate, I wonder if having pickup covers on mine is limiting my sound, what do you think?
"Neutering your own pickup"
Horseshoe or "Jaguar" with a high conductivity back plate? Maybe it would be a good mix of high and low frequency response?
Make an archtop acoustic guitar out of a Donner cutaway pack
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment 85. Thats a hell of a suggestion if I could pull that off it'd be a killer video. I'm putting this in my notes. That would be hard to do but it would be awesome. If/when I do make a video with this idea I'll give you a shout-out. Great suggestion!
@@heavymetalATC well don't carve the top just saw the heal off and cut slats for pickups
these videos are so top notch, keep it up forever. love it all.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to leave kind words of support Coco. I'm working on another one right now, reaching out to companies for inexpensive products to review and modify as well as trying to plan out a calendar for future videos. Thanks again for the interest and participation.
You should recreate a Gibson staple pickup with actual staples. You could even shoot them through a wood slab and then just wind them around the staple legs.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave this awesome comment Jay. That is a Fantastic suggestion. I am putting this in my notes right now. Perfect idea for this channel! If/when I do this I'll be sure to give you a shoutout in the video. I really really like this idea!
@@heavymetalATC love the content my guy! More than happy to contribute, and just glad to have you uploading again. You definitely might have to experiment with staple gauges too.
Excellent video! Just found your channel. I’d really like to hear the horseshoe on a bass, to hear if it does anything magical. As for the claw type, on my Jaguar I can see that the plates are not connectors the magnets at all, there are holes drilled to prevent contact. I think the original design narrows the string sensing as you said, but when magnetized they go a bit too far, lifting the resonant freq.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to write out such a great comment Mikael. I am so glad you are enjoying the channel. Great Suggestion on the Bass pickup- I really do need to start doing some bass pickup experiments on here. I will put this in my notes and If/when I make a video about it I'll give you a shout-out. I believe I also had someone else comment on the jaguar pickup not using the magnetic field in the same way, I think they said the magnet was on the wrong side of the claw metal or something? I guess if I ever build a jaguar copy I'll have to figure it out. Hahahaha!
thats really something .
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment Petey. I really didn't know how well this would work or if it would even really make enough of a difference to hear on a room mic and youtube compression but when I started editing I turned around and said oh no Heather! People are going to think this is fake. Hahaha. Thanks again Petey I really appreciate the interest.
@@heavymetalATC i love how you are using the text to speech to read the comments .
You intrigue me 🧐😳🤔😯
IDEA SECTION.... Brass knuckles, tuning fork, money clip???
Thank you for watching stranger LOL. That brass knuckles idea might be the ticket to a cool looking pickup build for sure. I gotta write that down.
Copper plate sounds the best to me
I like the copper
Thanks Bro, It was cool to be able to show the differences to everyone I had also used the copper plate technique on my split coil hum-bucker pickups and wanted to kinda show the validity of my claims.
Copper definitely had more low mids and overall volume than steel.
Thanks for watching Razman. Yes! I felt the need to revisit this and show some proof as I had used this technique in the building of a set of pickups previously and a very similar but much bigger channel basically shot down the idea the next day calling it bunk. Well who is crazy NOW! LOL Hahaha. Thanks again brother.
you should try making an emg style active pickup, get those laser beam feedback sounds!!
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment Joe. Good suggestion bro. I was planning on doing a quick and dirty version of active pickups with a computer speaker amp or something a while back but I will definitely put this in my notes. I think I may have several requests for it. If/when I make a video about it I will give you a shoutout.
@@heavymetalATC thanks so much! always love the insight your videos provide, just gathered the supplies to start experiments of my own and i never would’ve if i hadn’t found your channel . cant wait for the next videos :D
@@poopyjoe7883 That is AWESOME Joe! Let me know how the experiments go. I'll help with info if I can and id love to hear about the results and info you get.
I'd love to see you make a DIY dual hotrails pickup. I want to make my own, but not sure where to begin with making the bobbin.
Thanks for the suggestion Alex. Ill put that in my notes. Yest it might have to be slotted with a saw or something? If/when I make a video about that I will give you a shout-out.
I really didn't like the no plate and the Jaguar style on cleans. Once you dipped into overdrive they sounded okay, though the Jaguar is overall still the poorest performing, IMO. Think you'll revisit this and use a Copper horseshoe at some point?
This is because the magnetic field was configured incorrectly.
Jazzmaster pickups do it differently.
For a horseshoe to work correctly, it must be magnetically conductive.
iridos is correct on the actual jag pickup the magnet is inside the tray and on this its ouside the tray also the edges being pointed into teeth makes a difference according to leo fenders patent as well... Same as using a non magnetic horseshoe we really wont know what this stuff sounds like or does in our hands until we try it. we can repeat what we hear and read science papers and patents all that but just screwing and gluing junk together and plugging it in will tell you whats real... the right question to ask is why its different and is that also useful information?
bugaga ))!This burns!Ilove Rick basses xD
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment Volera. I was definitely surprised by the results myself.
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Thanks for another post, love your sense of humour and the way you cover the technical side of pickup design... I'd like a steel bridge with a horseshoe neck I reckon, I play a lot of palm-muted, distorted stuff and enjoy the sound of pick-on-string... Do you post schematics of your designs? I'm a little wary of trying to modify the pickups on my main electric but I'd definitely buy a kit guitar and have a crack at winding my own if you've got some 'pickups for dummies' material online!
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to type such kind words Gareth. I absolutely would not condone chopping up a beloved guitar for the purposes of pickup mods and experiments. A kit guitar would be a good option or maybe try to find a first act or similar cheapo guitar on reverb or at a pawnshop or thrift store and you can use it as a "test mule" Till you figure out some good results to use in a decent build. The black guitar in the video was like 50-60 bucks and has had all sorts of crazy stuff screwed, glued and taped into it... reverb springs, circuit boards, shotgun shells. Ive learned a lot from it and built some killer stuff for other builds using it. I dont really have any schematics past the simple diagrams, info and explanations in the videos but I do have quite a few pickup winding and building videos on the channel. I have a video that will definitely help you see the true simplicity of a pickup I built one with a ruler some nails and a fridge magnet:
ua-cam.com/video/VLMNXMMaU8o/v-deo.html
Also for some good info check out this group. These guys are kind and very willing to help this has been a great resource for me:
facebook.com/groups/325578941164721/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=1979155649140367
I hope that helps and I hope you take the plunge and make some pickups, once you start and the first working pickup makes that sweet sound... the ideas will come flowing and it becomes a quest or addiction of sorts.
@@heavymetalATC Legend! Thanks for the detailed reply, looking forward to future videos! I'll keep an eye out for a suitable cheap guitar to experiment with!
@@garethfox9272 Awesome! it can be a ton of fun.
awesome experiment, but a minor error. You kept talking about eddy currents when you meant magnetic field, i think.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment Allan. Good point bro, yeah when I was showing the humbucker sideways in the diagram I was talking about the swirling eddy currents and also when I was talking about the copper plate slowing or impeding the eddy current but I think in that case frequency of induction or lowering the resonant peak of inductance would have been fine terms but yes, im sure you are right I get on here with a mic and I dont write a script so I just kinda go off talking about what I was trying to do and show and then I edit the vid around those clips so I tend to get terms mixed up and its all kinda confusing to me trying to explain it in the first place. I know what I want to say and what I'm trying to do but getting it out in a concise and intelligible manor isn't always a complete success LOL
I certainly can understand. Also, before you throw all this stuff back in the scrap pile, I suggest you move the magnet to the inside of the jaguar shell and test. Your current configuration effectively shields the coil and strings from the magnet. I think you will find the tone more to your liking .
Maybe pots from 10k-250k-500k-1000k ore just any you can find, I used (recycled) some 1000k pots from a mixer into a guitar project and they are the shit!
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment Geiljan. That's a good idea. I can totally see why 1000k pots would rock practically no tone loss. I think Dylan talks tone channel already did a comparison of 250 and 500k... nope I just looked and I saw that he talked about it in a lot of videos but I don't see an actual sound comparison. I did see a capacitor comparison. I just didn't want to step on his toes as we do such a similar thing on our channels. OK bro hell yeah, I'll put this in my notes and if/when I do a video on it I'll give you a shoutout. Great suggestion!
Your channel is very interesting, but you are using the term Eddy Currents wrong. Those lines you show in the pictures are the magnetic flux representation.
Eddy currents occurs in plane perpendicular to the magnetic flux and in pickups it does not do anything but creating losses (mostly in the higher frequencies)... Just google it, it will be better explained that I can do. 🤘
Thank you for watching Rogerio. You are correct. I am scatterbrained at the best of times and I get all mixed up when doing the voice overs. I was really trying to highlight the way the copper slows those eddy currents and shifts the resonant peak to a lower frequency as I was looking at the clips from a previous video and I kept improperly using the term when referring to magnetic field or flux. Sometimes the voice over is done and then the video is edited to fit it and I got all mixed up.
When you used just a copper base...did you ground it?
no it was ungrounded which i hadnt consided.
Neat-o!
Thanks Jerry. I try to keep the greasers and all the cool cats and daddy's geetar jalopies outta that squaresville impound lot, Keep on truckin even when that daddy-o is down to the wires. dig? Hahahahah
Thanks bro. :)
Listening on monitors and there are definitely differences. On the Marshall the differences were far less noticable though. I also think when you're focusing so much on the single sounds, you're going to forget what it'll sound like in a mix. That's what a lot of tone-hunters don't get. They isolate the sound and then sound like ass with a band or in a mix, unless the sound guy knows what they're doing which is literally compensating for said tone-hunters by pushing mids or highs.
Hell, I think shit just sounds good when it looks good. :P Also love gnarly set-ups so something like this I'll definitely try myself. Wonder what this would do with an actual lipstick.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment Tony. I was quite surprised at the amount of difference it made. At first I was afraid it may be so minuscule it wouldn't be audible over a cheap mic and youtube compression but then when I started editing I was like AHH nooo someone is going to say this is fake. LOL I agree about bedroom tone VS stage tone or recording tone. I think its the reason why the telecaster bridge pickup and twin reverb amp are such popular tool combo in full bands. It sounds like an ear stabbing squawk in a bedroom setting but in a mix its the bees knees/dogs bollocks etc... (great!) hahaha That yellow tweed amp I got sounds great in here but its wayyy too muddy for a live band. I'd be drowned by the bass player and kick drum.
I don't care what amp you use, but I wish you'd mic closer to it so we can get a better recording quality. otherwise cool video 👍
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment F F. I'll keep that in mind, I don't really have a good way to pull that off in here but if I'm feeling less lazy I can always go to the studio room and set up and get a recording quality sound but the editing on it and re-syncing everything would be hell on a comparison video like this. That being said Ive done it in the past with more congruently recorded videos. I'll definitely consider it and thank you again for the interest suggestion and kind words.
In terms of hum, which model had the least 60cycle hum?
I didnt really pay enough attention to know for sure 100% but I would bet it was the horseshoe as it protected the front of the pickup from interference but the same can be said for a metal pickup cover.
Should of tried aluminum
What about a copper horseshoe?
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment Chris. That's a pretty cool suggestion. I am going to put that in my notes. I like the thought of using a thick piece and polishing it up. That would look awesome! If/when I make do that I'll make a video and give you a shoutout.
cooper will eat hf )
copper horseshoe?
that is a question there aint it?
Man, you have a microphone for your voice. Why not record the results of experiments more qualitatively? The shitty camera mic doesn't allow us to rate your work as it deserves
Hahaha 🤣 yeah I've gone from cellphone mic to close mic to aftermarket shotgun mic on DSLR... I may do better in the future? Maybe not 🤣 setting that stuff up and syncing that audio in editing is a MF. 😉