Another idea: Once Upon A Time there was a product for brine shrimp hatching that always intrigued me, though I was not hatching shrimp at the time. It was a floating black plastic container with a small open slit half way down the body and under water. The hatchery would be floated in a larger aerated tank that was lighted and had a growing medium mixed with the water. Eggs would be placed in the hatchery without aeration. The newly hatched shrimp would swim toward the light out into the main tank and could begin feeding and growing. After hatching was complete the container would be lifted out of the water encompassed by a net, separating the shells, and would get cleaned and recharged. Hatching percentage was a little lower, but the process was automated and made cleaner separation of shells, less messy. Once you grasp the theory, you can see that the process is very adaptable to a wide range of container shapes. It occurs to me that you could add aeration to the hatchery container if you had a covered exit slit. Shrimps would then hatch with agitation and when hatched, the aquarist would stop the bubbles, open the slit, and let the little buggers swim out. Possibly aimed more toward shrimp rearing as opposed to hatching and immediate use.
+PalJoey1957 i've seen similar dark chamber hatching systems, really cool idea for shrimp rearing as you said, i've also seen people toss the leftover junk in a hatching cone into a big outdoor brackish tub and successfully rear more shrimp instead of throwing them out
Hi. Hopefully you're still responding to comments. This is a great enhancement to the traditional bottle style hatchery. Just two questions: 1. How do you keep these at the required 80/82 degrees (I don't see lights over the top like some people do). Is your room that warm? 2. How do you clean the bottles when everything is tefloned together? Do you pull the entire unit out or do you just unscrew the bottle and re-teflon before you screw it back on? Thanks for doing this video!
1. room is warm enough for a decent hatch, it you need it warmer, a incandescent bulb is a good idea, 2. to clean i pull the bottle straight out and rise under warm water but i don't take anything apart, works well but likely not 100% sterile if you are worried about that sort of thing
@@gregjonesonline Thank you so much! Can you also tell me what kind of salt you use? Aquarium and marine salt are expensive but I read of people using rock salt, while others have used non-iodized table salt and others recommend water softener salt (with no additives). These are all cheaper options so I'm hoping to get your input given you seem quite successful.
@@gregjonesonline Excellent! Thank you so much. I feel better equipped to get this setup properly now that I have these additional pieces of information.
Hey Greg. It's been a couple years now since you made this video. I was wondering if you are still using this setup and if so would there be any changes you would make if you were going to remake the system.
J Lathem I still use it, I wouldn't make any changes for a diy hatchery, if you want to spend more money use imhoff cones, if you want more volume use a conical plastic storage tank
Greg Jones - Thanks for the reply and the information. Those are some fairly expensive options and if I had more money than what I needed or wanted they may be interesting to explore. Functional will do nicely for my upcoming project. Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Hey Greg, thanks for all your videos. I may be over thinking your concept but since you already have an air hose and a valve for drainage at the bottom of the preformed tube couldn't you just add a T connector above that valve, another on/off valve coming out at a 90° and run your air from the bottom? This would elevate the need for the rigid air hose for each system. Wouldn't it, or am I not seeing something?
+jlathem56 yeah you could do that, i've seen people use the same tube for air and draining water, they just detatch from the air supply and direct the end into a bucket or net, one thing i will say about that is it's more likely to get jammed with salt crystals and eggs and prevent or slow the air flow, so i tried to keep the systems apart to avoid trouble
+Greg Jones (Greg's Fishroom) forgot to ask, can you do a short video on the shrimp eggs? I have seen different eggs around the internet and am not sure what is the best for the money. some say that more eggs hatch and some claim the best ones are from Salt lake city. might be a good info to share.
Hey Greg, I would like to know where you get your valves from and also the tapping tool. have looked everywhere for them with no luck. A local hardware store maybe?
yea that was my first thought but then the bottle will fall off the shelf unless i drill a hone big enough for the entire neck of the bottle to sit on the shelf. thanks for the thought though.
Hi, Greg. Good video. I have subscribed your channel. I have one question.How often and how many shrimp have you used to feed your fishes? I mean you do it daily or weekly? Thanks for answer.
This is my bookmark for youtube ;)
Well thought out, well presented and scalable. One helluva good idea!
I like how efficient the whole system is but most of all how little air you need to operate the cones.
Brilliant
brilliant set up mate. you now have me ordering everything you have here to set up a hatchery.
keep up the good work.
Great set up. Getting ready to get back into breeding a few different fish, and was trying to come up with a bbs hatcery. Now I have one thanks.
+Jason Buck glad it helped!
What a great set up! I am about to set our first 2ltre up the traditional way but I'll be ordering the goodies and making one of these!!! Thanks
Another idea: Once Upon A Time there was a product for brine shrimp hatching that always intrigued me, though I was not hatching shrimp at the time. It was a floating black plastic container with a small open slit half way down the body and under water. The hatchery would be floated in a larger aerated tank that was lighted and had a growing medium mixed with the water. Eggs would be placed in the hatchery without aeration. The newly hatched shrimp would swim toward the light out into the main tank and could begin feeding and growing. After hatching was complete the container would be lifted out of the water encompassed by a net, separating the shells, and would get cleaned and recharged. Hatching percentage was a little lower, but the process was automated and made cleaner separation of shells, less messy.
Once you grasp the theory, you can see that the process is very adaptable to a wide range of container shapes. It occurs to me that you could add aeration to the hatchery container if you had a covered exit slit. Shrimps would then hatch with agitation and when hatched, the aquarist would stop the bubbles, open the slit, and let the little buggers swim out.
Possibly aimed more toward shrimp rearing as opposed to hatching and immediate use.
+PalJoey1957 i've seen similar dark chamber hatching systems, really cool idea for shrimp rearing as you said, i've also seen people toss the leftover junk in a hatching cone into a big outdoor brackish tub and successfully rear more shrimp instead of throwing them out
Great build! I thought my set up worked well!lol very clean and professional finish. Love it man!
thanks man!
Great video.....always informative.
Great setup! Thanks for sharing this! Subbed.
Hi. Hopefully you're still responding to comments. This is a great enhancement to the traditional bottle style hatchery. Just two questions: 1. How do you keep these at the required 80/82 degrees (I don't see lights over the top like some people do). Is your room that warm? 2. How do you clean the bottles when everything is tefloned together? Do you pull the entire unit out or do you just unscrew the bottle and re-teflon before you screw it back on? Thanks for doing this video!
1. room is warm enough for a decent hatch, it you need it warmer, a incandescent bulb is a good idea, 2. to clean i pull the bottle straight out and rise under warm water but i don't take anything apart, works well but likely not 100% sterile if you are worried about that sort of thing
@@gregjonesonline Thank you so much! Can you also tell me what kind of salt you use? Aquarium and marine salt are expensive but I read of people using rock salt, while others have used non-iodized table salt and others recommend water softener salt (with no additives). These are all cheaper options so I'm hoping to get your input given you seem quite successful.
@@nortok00 I use API aquarium salt, it is cheap, comes in a nice milk carton container, easy to pour, spend your money on good brine shrimp eggs
@@gregjonesonline Excellent! Thank you so much. I feel better equipped to get this setup properly now that I have these additional pieces of information.
Great video.
Love the setup, I'm definitely going to copy it. One question though, how do you keep your water temperature at 80 degrees?
Great setup Greg! Is the LED lamp your heat source and what temp are you aiming for in the hatchery bottles?
+Rich's Fishes my room is warm enough that i don't need to heat each bottle, the water is around 75F without a heat source
Do the 2L preform and tornado tubes get shipped from China?
What caps did you use with your 2l preforms? The only ones I see on Amazon seem to have standard soda bottle type caps. Thanks.
Good shit dude respects
Hey Greg. It's been a couple years now since you made this video. I was wondering if you are still using this setup and if so would there be any changes you would make if you were going to remake the system.
J Lathem I still use it, I wouldn't make any changes for a diy hatchery, if you want to spend more money use imhoff cones, if you want more volume use a conical plastic storage tank
Greg Jones - Thanks for the reply and the information. Those are some fairly expensive options and if I had more money than what I needed or wanted they may be interesting to explore. Functional will do nicely for my upcoming project. Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Hey Greg, thanks for all your videos.
I may be over thinking your concept but since you already have an air hose and a valve for drainage at the bottom of the preformed tube couldn't you just add a T connector above that valve, another on/off valve coming out at a 90° and run your air from the bottom? This would elevate the need for the rigid air hose for each system. Wouldn't it, or am I not seeing something?
+jlathem56 yeah you could do that, i've seen people use the same tube for air and draining water, they just detatch from the air supply and direct the end into a bucket or net, one thing i will say about that is it's more likely to get jammed with salt crystals and eggs and prevent or slow the air flow, so i tried to keep the systems apart to avoid trouble
+Greg Jones (Greg's Fishroom) great point. didn't think of that.
+Greg Jones (Greg's Fishroom) forgot to ask, can you do a short video on the shrimp eggs?
I have seen different eggs around the internet and am not sure what is the best for the money. some say that more eggs hatch and some claim the best ones are from Salt lake city. might be a good info to share.
Hey Greg, I would like to know where you get your valves from and also the tapping tool. have looked everywhere for them with no luck. A local hardware store maybe?
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Could you possibly explain how you put the valve under the preform?
+Daniel Leija I drilled a hole and tapped it, then put pipe tape on the valve threads and threaded it on, hope that helps!
is there any thing else i can use instead of the tornado tube?
+robert cribbs i can't think of anything else, you can try tapping the bottle cap and leaving the preform off
yea that was my first thought but then the bottle will fall off the shelf unless i drill a hone big enough for the entire neck of the bottle to sit on the shelf. thanks for the thought though.
what would i feed them if i want to grow them to adults?
spirulina power is probably a good place to start
Hi, Greg. Good video. I have subscribed your channel. I have one question.How often and how many shrimp have you used to feed your fishes? I mean you do it daily or weekly? Thanks for answer.
it all depends, i feed my small fry with baby brine shrimp 2-3 times per day, other fish maybe once or twice a week
Sucks to be me. Those preforms are so expensive to buy to my country. a 30 pack will cost me 95 usd
drinks are bottled all over the world, you should be able to find some locally, though it may take some investigation