@@willsy444 true but I'd argue Cain's character change is more drastic since he just went from a little scheming scally who who was also a child groomer and was mostly the runt of the litter when it came to his family to nowadays being a kinda badass anti hero hardman who has old fashioned traditional family values which very much were not present during his early years ( just look at how often he used to smack about Charity and his daughter ) compared to phil who went from a local del boy type criminal who just got involved in the odd dodgy job and only fought when he had to to a bald angry guy who threatens to kill people over minor annoyances and who treats his family like shit a lot of the time and who punches people over the most minor things I'd argue Phil's character change isn't too drastic and sorta makes sense from a bad writing perspective where this is the sorta direction you could imagine him going when the character had been around for too many years and got stale and less complex. but Cain's character change is honestly frigging baffling its like he is literally a different character just played by the same actor tbh.
Brilliant video! I've come to realise there's no point in me saying "There were clips I didn't know about" anymore as there are loads from Emmerdale! Cain really wasn't likeable at all back then, he was like a mixture of Sean Slater and Nick Cotton and I rooted for almost everyone else in this vid. He also wasn't as tough during this stint, I think he'd do well to make a top 20 soap hardman list and the top 10 for ED
Thanks so much for your response mate! I agree Cain was a nasty git during this stint and he wasn’t really a Hardman, just a greasy tough guy who knew when he couldn’t beat somebody. For example, him not retaliating against Matthew & Jimmy and not fighting with Eli after he punched him twice 😂 that’s honestly a perfect comparison mate! Remember, requests are always allowed!
Younger people who have only started watching the show in the last few years must be shocked when they see old clips of “fan favourite” Cain in the 00s, was one of the nastiest characters ever on the show, just a slimy, animal abusing child groomer and he was pretty much despised by the entire village and seen as a scumbag except for by his family (who he still treated like shit most of the time). He was also a lot more cowardly, always bullied wimps like Sam and Marlon but backed down against guys he knew he couldn’t beat. Tbh he was still like this when he returned in 09-11 (just much more well groomed than before), it was only after Zak nearly killed him that he started to change
Amazing analysis mate! As a 19 year old, my whole life I really watched Emmerdale so I was absent during his first stint. It wasn’t about a year ago people were telling me about how terrible Cain was in his “prime era” He was a nasty pedophile alright. When Cain returned he didn’t change at all. But in 2011, Cain was at his nastiest. Cheating on Charity with Faye, Grooming a 17 year old Amy Wyatt, slept with Jai’s sister Priya & had a full blown affair with Moira. I don’t know why all the women was crazy over him anyway it’s the same mystery with Max Branning
Missing a few small bits but cracking vid what a character he was on that 2000s stint shouldn’t have really brought him back tbf they have borderline ruined cain as have multiple other characters been aswell in the show since thier peak of the 2000s
Thanks so much for your response mate. Cain was easily such a psychopath in this stint. They ruined his spark so bad nowadays he’s nothing but a joke really. lol sorry for that error.
@@Hate_JJYT I view him more as a sociopath, I don't think he's a psychopath at all, when Angie dies you can see plenty of emotion from Cain. I think he was a problematic sociopath with a lot of trauma that he carried and as life went on he mellowed out, which isn't exactly unrealistic. Cain isn't the same these days, I think they should have used him as a Nick Cotton type character and had him appear for stints and disappear, but I think Jeff Hordley was an excellent actor and they wanted him full time.
They need to Coronation Street Fighter edition Jim McDonald Mike Baldwin Ken Barlow Peter Barlow Karen McDonald Kevin Webster Janice Battersby Jason Grimshaw Len Fairclough Phil Mitchell Grant Mitchell Dan Sullivan Beppe Di Marco Dirty Dan Watts Nasty Nick Cotton Jim Branning Clyde Tavenier Janine Butcher Stacey Slater Ronnie Mitchell Bianca Jackson Zak Dingle Cain Dingle Jack Sugden Andy Sugden Jimmy corkhill
best version of Cain by far.
Cain has probably had the most drastic character growth of any main soap Hardman over the years tbh.
True to that.
Character change
Phil Mitchell comes close
@@willsy444 true but I'd argue Cain's character change is more drastic since he just went from a little scheming scally who who was also a child groomer and was mostly the runt of the litter when it came to his family
to nowadays being a kinda badass anti hero hardman who has old fashioned traditional family values which very much were not present during his early years ( just look at how often he used to smack about Charity and his daughter )
compared to phil who went from a local del boy type criminal who just got involved in the odd dodgy job and only fought when he had to
to a bald angry guy who threatens to kill people over minor annoyances and who treats his family like shit a lot of the time and who punches people over the most minor things
I'd argue Phil's character change isn't too drastic and sorta makes sense from a bad writing perspective where this is the sorta direction you could imagine him going when the character had been around for too many years and got stale and less complex.
but Cain's character change is honestly frigging baffling its like he is literally a different character just played by the same actor tbh.
@@spencerreid2086 yep like many characters show hasn’t got consistency hasn’t since the 2000s ended really
Brilliant video! I've come to realise there's no point in me saying "There were clips I didn't know about" anymore as there are loads from Emmerdale! Cain really wasn't likeable at all back then, he was like a mixture of Sean Slater and Nick Cotton and I rooted for almost everyone else in this vid. He also wasn't as tough during this stint, I think he'd do well to make a top 20 soap hardman list and the top 10 for ED
Thanks so much for your response mate! I agree Cain was a nasty git during this stint and he wasn’t really a Hardman, just a greasy tough guy who knew when he couldn’t beat somebody. For example, him not retaliating against Matthew & Jimmy and not fighting with Eli after he punched him twice 😂 that’s honestly a perfect comparison mate! Remember, requests are always allowed!
@@Hate_JJYT Wouldn't mind seeing you do a top 10 (or so) list for each category like strength, skill, durability :)
@@RandomUploads-ch3bh Like your videos? Sure mate!
@@Hate_JJYT Don't expect you to go all out like mine, even if it's just a minute or so short, however you wanna do it :)
@@Hate_JJYT Did your Billy V Ross vid get blocked? :(
Do another cain vs the village 2009 to 2023
Wow to say cain was a bad ass back in the day but look at him now still got a short fuse but theres an improvement
Younger people who have only started watching the show in the last few years must be shocked when they see old clips of “fan favourite” Cain in the 00s, was one of the nastiest characters ever on the show, just a slimy, animal abusing child groomer and he was pretty much despised by the entire village and seen as a scumbag except for by his family (who he still treated like shit most of the time). He was also a lot more cowardly, always bullied wimps like Sam and Marlon but backed down against guys he knew he couldn’t beat. Tbh he was still like this when he returned in 09-11 (just much more well groomed than before), it was only after Zak nearly killed him that he started to change
Amazing analysis mate! As a 19 year old, my whole life I really watched Emmerdale so I was absent during his first stint. It wasn’t about a year ago people were telling me about how terrible Cain was in his “prime era” He was a nasty pedophile alright.
When Cain returned he didn’t change at all. But in 2011, Cain was at his nastiest. Cheating on Charity with Faye, Grooming a 17 year old Amy Wyatt, slept with Jai’s sister Priya & had a full blown affair with Moira. I don’t know why all the women was crazy over him anyway it’s the same mystery with Max Branning
Can you do part 2 of Cain Dingle vs the village 2009-2024
Absolutely mate!
Thanks been waiting a long while for this moment to happen
@@davidshadow12 No prob mate! It’s honestly quite fun to make these to Tbf, I still gotta do Leah & Tom!
You mean you’re doing Leah and Tom from hollyoaks that’s great
@@davidshadow12 Have you seen my Tom video mate!
Missing a few small bits but cracking vid what a character he was on that 2000s stint shouldn’t have really brought him back tbf they have borderline ruined cain as have multiple other characters been aswell in the show since thier peak of the 2000s
Thanks so much for your response mate. Cain was easily such a psychopath in this stint. They ruined his spark so bad nowadays he’s nothing but a joke really. lol sorry for that error.
@@Hate_JJYT I view him more as a sociopath, I don't think he's a psychopath at all, when Angie dies you can see plenty of emotion from Cain. I think he was a problematic sociopath with a lot of trauma that he carried and as life went on he mellowed out, which isn't exactly unrealistic.
Cain isn't the same these days, I think they should have used him as a Nick Cotton type character and had him appear for stints and disappear, but I think Jeff Hordley was an excellent actor and they wanted him full time.
Check out Gross & Grosser’s New Cain video he did a better one in my opinion
Emmerdale Cain Dingle Vs the village march 2000
this is great, you really learn how evil he is
Thanks so much mate! It took forever making this but I managed!
@ it’s great
what’s next
is corroe in 80s almost thefe
@@corriearcade60 Oop- I forgot to tell you I’m in mid 1989 😭
@@Hate_JJYT that’s nearly done
how many client there u reckon
Did they do a crossover with coronation street or did one or two of the actors around the 42 minute mark be in both shows?
They did a small crossover years and years ago with some of the soaps
Uncle Stephen would have this wrongun on toast
He ought to be locked up with the other nonces
We should do a follow up, Parents v Predators.
@@tomhiggins6542 Sounds like a great video mate 👍 oughta get to work
Carnival knowledge 😂😂😂😂 22:00
Emmerdale Cain Dingle Vs the village march 2000
5:48 what date is this
11th December 2000 😂 it’s an hilarious scene
Yeah I love that too
Watching this makes me realise how bad emmerdale is now. Wow those early 2000s were great, it’s a bit like eastenders in that sense.
😂 haha Emmerdale is a joke compared to how it was in the 2000s. EastEnders & Emmerdale were great in the 2000s!
Emmerdale is awful nowadays. Woeful compared to Classic Emmerdale.
@@ThomasWilliams89 1993-2011 Emmerdale was amazing! And it got dull but better in Mid 2010s but it’s garbage
Cain Dingle from Emmerdale vs Nick Cotton from Eastenders. Who's the better villain ?
I honestly think Nick!
If zak was around when cain put his hands on lisa would be a Deadman i don't think give rlzak enough credit in his younger days he was a hard bastard
Zak owned the village than
39:44/39:45
Shadracs evolution early on was that he I believe was hand picked for the role was the double of the cowardly lion in the original Wizard of Oz 😂😂😂😂😂
😂 SHADRACH THE COWARDLY LION
They need to Coronation Street Fighter edition
Jim McDonald
Mike Baldwin
Ken Barlow
Peter Barlow
Karen McDonald
Kevin Webster
Janice Battersby
Jason Grimshaw
Len Fairclough
Phil Mitchell
Grant Mitchell
Dan Sullivan
Beppe Di Marco
Dirty Dan Watts
Nasty Nick Cotton
Jim Branning
Clyde Tavenier
Janine Butcher
Stacey Slater
Ronnie Mitchell
Bianca Jackson
Zak Dingle
Cain Dingle
Jack Sugden
Andy Sugden
Jimmy corkhill
Godber meets Ian Brown
Punching a guy in a wheelchair is just the lowest of the low.
It was very weak. This Hardman named Cain isn’t that tough 😂