11:20 Damn... that's by far the best way to ship Ryzen CPU. Having the CPU seated in the socket, will make sure that pins won't be bent. That guy is a genious.
Well, if you have a dead OEM board, what else are you gonna do with it? Not worth fixing, that's for sure. But if you cut out the socket, you can use it as a pin protector.
To straighten am4 cpus u can use a mechanical pencil, use the tiny metal needle that is at the tip and put it over the pins so u can straighten them. Hope this helps
I would have never imagined someone sending an motherboard chunk before your video. Some of my favorite listings are motherboards that include closeups of CPUs and then the sellers do not respond to messages or they take a really long time before telling you they are not.
@@ElijahsLab It was probably from a board that was otherwise already broken, like one that was shipped in some of that other lovely packaging you got, but really bent.
So some background on the PG (Power Good) signal. It is the amount of time that the power supply takes to do internal checks and become fully ready and stabilised. This should take between 100 ms and 500 ms. If the PG signal takes less than 100 ms or more than 500 ms, it is considered abnormal but with newer technologies this tends to less than 100ms now. Your power supplies should be fine as long as it doesnt show really low PG ms
Honestly buying parts on eBay isn't bad. As long as you know what you're looking for. I've built a couple computers and resold them on eBay or marketplace.
last week on ebay i lowballed a seller for a supermicro matx c612 server motherboard, cpu, cooler combo from $250 to $100 and it’s still my best purchase because that board costs $500
CPU's can actually work while missing a few pins, never give up on a CPU if you snap off a pin. Many pins are ground or provide power and missing a few of them won't impact the cpu.
As someone who has done a lot of selling on eBay, only putting 'has bent pins' in small print in the description is 100% against eBay policy. If the seller tried to fight you on it, eBay would step in and force a resolution
If you have a broken AM4 OEM MB, this is about all it is good for. They may have salvaged some components off the board or something and were left with a paperweight. This kind of resourcefulness is impressive and it was the people who just threw a bare CPU in the package that had me cracking up.
for the PG reading = 100mS to 500 mS is the ATX 'standard' it's just a timer for how long it takes the rails to all come up 'good', it can be below this and be just fine, though if it's abnormally low (0mS to 50mS) it's possible there is a fault in how it sequences, else slightly less than the standard is pretty much fine. But longer than standard may cause some hardware to hang as it means the rails are ramping up slower than specified. You tend to get conditions like 'brown-outs' as something downstream thinks it's fine to pull power, then it makes a partially-up rail collapse, and things fault.
awh yeah the og DIY SK RBG case lol, it's unironically one of the best cases you can buy, it's got a RGB controller, a glass panel, and a bunch of rooms for cable management AND an easily accessible storage drive mount, all for like $60 lol
Tip: if you take a razerblade on the pins it straightens them out very fast, I accidently dropped my 5800x3d and bent like 30 pins but the razerblade worked well
The way people ship things off ebay is wild. I've seen this also..on a side note, you can use a credit card to straighten the pins on those cpu's. dont slip with tweezers, nightmares can happen with a slip up. good vid bro
I’ve tried like 4 different credit cards, both metal and plastic and they are all too thick, honestly best method in my opinion is (empty) mechanical pencil.
I just stumbled on your channel for the first time and gotta say love how ya keep it real and react like most of us would. I try and do same type of thing on my content. So i appreciate ya
There's a trick I did a long time ago with the FX CPUs. What you can do is you can get a stapler staple cut it to the correct length and insert it into the pin slot and then clamp the CPU down and makes the connection
11:30 Technically speaking this was the best packaged CPU in the video so far. At least the seller protected the pins and the CPU wasn't stuck to something.
The way I like straighten pins, is by using the back of the blade on a knife and running it through the lanes and carefully bending the ones that need bending back. Basically if the knife blade run clear through it, no more bent pins! It has worked great and my go to after I took a pin off using teasers too ;)
I am pretty sure PG = Power Good and it showed it was good in 70 milliseconds instead of the normal 100 to 500 milliseconds so that can be a sign of better quality.
@@TheBlueBunnyKen I did not notice the flashing but on a 6inch screen (cellphone) without my glasses it makes sense. I remember having some EVGA power supply's that did the exact same thing just at high 80's that lasted for over a decade.
I don't think There's actually anything wrong with it. I have seen it on several new power supplies and they all work just fine. If the voltages are all ok I would run it.
I use floss picks to straighten pins out. They fit perfectly down the rows and have a little give in the tips so you don't accidently brute force one and break it. Been doing that since the AM2 days and it has always worked and I never broke one off. When I bargain hunt AMD cpu's on Ebay I always look for bent pin ones.
It’s always a gamble to buy PC parts on eBay. Sometimes you score something for a fraction of the price, and sometimes you buy something at market value and it doesn’t work!
14:40 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_good_signal - Power good value is based on the delay in ms, that a power supply takes to become fully ready. Power good values are often considered abnormal if detected lower than 100 ms or higher than 500 ms. It's out of spec, but will probably work.
Something I’ve been doing lately is immediately stress testing gpu’s when I get them off eBay. I’ve had a few that will “work” and then the second they reach 100% usage and operating temps, they will crash. Just my personal experience.
I’ve actually been thinking of a better way to actually stress tests the parts. Instead of just getting it to post I guess the only way to do that is just to do it😂 Just takes a lot more time
on bent pins on the ryzen cpus the best and most effective method I have found is actually to run a stanley blade gently through the gaps in a nice straight line and when getting to a bent pin give it a slight wiggle to straighten them. This way no breaking of the pins trying to use tweezers
Those two pins missing off the CPU should be fairly easy to replace, they are right on the edge. You would need some donor pins and a rework gun, but if they are needed pins the CPU could be saved.
Check the pin layout and see if the pins broken are just ground. If they are, then you should be good as long as there is at least on pin left that has ground.
For the cpu with the broken pin. Sometimes you can just put the pin in the specific hole on the motherboard first then put the cpu itself in. I seen Tech Yes City try this once & it worked. Good luck. :)
3:05 This is where you simply return it. It isn't your job to fix their mistake and if you don't ding 'em for it, they never learn. If they didn't mark the listing 'for parts or repair', then you are covered by the guarantee, regardless of any fine print in the description. 7:29 OMG, how hard is it to tape a piece of cardboard over the socket? Also, it is very difficult to spot bent pins in a LGA MB with the naked eye. You should really support the bottom of the MB when seating RAM. One of these days, you'll crack a solder joint and break the board doing it like that. Just because you see a million people doing it on YT doesn't make it OK. Electronics are delicate. Treat them accordingly. A blunt tip syringe fill needle works the best for straightening CPU pins. You can't call a GPU good just because it gives a picture in BIOS. Requires extensive benchmark and stress testing and I guarantee all the GPUs you bought need new thermal paste and possibly new pads too if they've been mined on. I bet that 3070 was used for mining. I wouldn't say you overpaid or anything but you hardly got any spectacular deals. The 1080 for $80 was a decent score but you also have to remember that a PC with a 1080 is probably worth about $400-450. And that's if you can even sell it. The market is slumping pretty hard right now. It is tough to sell a PC with only 16GB RAM or a GPU that doesn't support DX12U. Most people willing to pay anything more than $500 will expect 32GB RAM, 12GB VRAM and at least a TB of storage. Maybe you have some sort of local market bubble but I wouldn't want to be sitting on all these components right now. You still don't know if the GPUs you bought are fully functional and same goes for all the CPUs, especially the one missing two pins. Yeah, they might not do anything. But it is more likely they do and you will experience reduced performance or even an unstable system. System stability testing takes a lot more than 5 minutes. In fact, it could load into BIOS but be nothing but BSODs in Windows. I recently fixed bent socket pins on a Haswell MB and it took multiple passes. At one point, I thought I had it but as soon as Windows started loading, it crashed, because one of the pins still wasn't making contact. Eventually I got it. But you're not gonna be able to put those pins back on the CPU. I'd say you were more optimistic than you had any reason to be throughout this entire video.
If you buy a cheap B350 or B450 for it, you can buy an old Athlon 64 X2 for $1, break off some pins with a razor blade and put them in the socket where your Ryzen is missing them. I've had this work several times - one time they even got attached to the CPU after taking it out of the socket. You need to test for stability, especially RAM channels, if you're not replacing the pins OR confirm with the pin diagram that they are only ground. Obviously disclose this to the seller. If they ever wanted to replace the CPU, they'd need ta magnet and tiny tweezer to get the pins out of the board again most likely.
I have done the same thing with USB header that was missing the data carrier pin. Was able to salvage a pin from a broken motherboard and put it into the USB female connector with a little sticking out to make contact. It worked.
You can also snip aluminum bobby pins the right length and that works 99.99% of the time. The only time it didn't work, was on an old Athlon CPU in the early to mid 00's.
I have bought A LOT of pc parts on ebay over the years. Only had issues a few times, and Ebay buyer protection is next level. If you truly get hosed by a seller Ebay will always give your money back.
so my experience buying pc parts on ebay. couple of graphics cards which were quick replacements when my other died, so got them cheap, sold as working. showed graphical glitches and red squares on screen within a few weeks. I did get another graphics card many years ago which worked, also a motherboard, worked but then messed up if I tried overclocking. it turned out to be the caps on the board, so replaced them and it worked. cpu was fine, memory came up with few errors on this old memory test I used to use. hard drives I wouldn't even bother with.
Also to the credit of the seller of that mobo chunk. Maybe it was trashed already and they knew it would be the best way to ship the cpu without it getting any damage?
Used to flip PC's, and do custom PC builds in the 90's, rounding out over two hundred units sold, before I settled into new job, bought a lot of stuff from eBay, to cut costs on PC's I flipped , bought hundred of items, was lucky as only had two issues, one a CPU with bent pins, and a non functioning dead GPU, for me it wasn't much difference between buying new Vs used parts, as quality control with new parts can pose problems, nice video, and like others wondering how you you know how old ladies smell, wait on second thought rather not know 😄
QC sucks right now. I'd rather buy used. A used component that has been used for a couple of years just had a thorough QC test in my mind. Before COVID, I had only had one DOA new component in 25 years. I've had several DOA new components since COVID. Have also had several RMAs since COVID and had one in the preceding 25 years. If it weren't for the fact Amazon has some good deals and easy returns, I probably would only buy used at this point. New is a hell of a premium for a big question mark, whereas, if a reputable eBay seller says it is working, there's a 99.999999999% chance it does. Been having a good laugh at all the 4090 and 14900KS failures. I would say that all those posers got exactly what they deserved.
Usuall rule of Power Good (PG) the lower the MS the faster the PSU turns on and delivers Power, i personally would only bother if its too high not too low.
Bought a RX 6700 that was mistakenly listed as a 6600. Sticker was missing, so guess that's why they didn't know; however, I noticed the different power connectors and scored a deal.
I recently grabbed up a 3060ti Founders Edition from eBay for 250 and its runs great. Temps are on point and benchmarks really high. Also grabbed a 5800x and got the same great experience. I feel like I got pretty lucky. They run so well together especially with the Samsung B Die I have 3600 CL 14
Well a bit late, but checked for you, the 2 missing pins are half fine, ne is GND, teh other is MB_DQS_L5 so probably 2 ram slots will be dead, but the rest is fine. If you need pin info, you can find boardviews o mobos and check where the pins go.
if you're lucky you can get away with 1 missing pin and it'll still work, though i would at least try fixing that at some point cuz you never know if it is needed
i had bought a motherboard the seller sent the board in its origanal box without any bubble wrap or packaging and stuck a postal label on the box . I sent the seller a message saying i am not happy the way the motherboard came through the postal system , i have not tried it but i am sending it back for a refund . He said okay you can send it back for a refund , but his explanation for it is the seller bought it off another ebay exactly the same way he sent it to him . I said i am not interested how he sent it to you , but if you going to send it through the mail you either have to bubble wrap it or put it in a box.
@@ElijahsLab when i sell components i bubble wrap them and secure them due to knocks and when they throw packages in cages . I sent a cpu in a plastic container a cpu comes in , then in a small box ,inside with bubble wrap then the box is also bubble wrapped , then in a postage bubble wrap letter and taped and sealed . the buyer was very happy how i wrapped to make sure the cpu will not go bad in transit . a good customer always comes back , i been on ebay for years and i do not have not one negative feedback.
Antistatic packaging? or am i just old? And regarding the bent pins, as long as they are not smashed flat, then a bit of careful work while straightening should get them fixed.
Hey Elijah, not sure if you’ll see this, but I just got started with PC flipping (mainly because of your videos), and I was just wondering if I should spend the extra money to buy a wifi card for my builds without mobo wifi. I feel like a lot of people don’t have access to ethernet and wifi could be a big selling point. Do you think spending the extra money on the wifi card is worth it? Thanks
I think PG stands for: Probably Gonna(burn/explode/die) 😄 Great video.. I wonder how the person broke the mobo without damaging the CPU. Looks like they just cracked it off the edge of a desk 🤣
I’ve been flipping, if I’m lucky 10% of what I bid on I get and I can’t get any ddr4 people paying more than retail I think they don’t take the cost of shipping in to account. I get my ram off Amazon, 16g ddr4 3200mhz is $29 on Amazon. I did get 4 scores of Facebook marketplace today though but the laser printer I scored is for me. Sick of buying ink.
Some PSU's power up on a circuit delay. I have the same tester as you and I have seen that issue on one particular Thermaltake PSU and it's actually a high end one. The tester is trying to see a timed feedback and it will not get it with some PSU's.
The 3800X CPU with the missing pins, you might lose a memory channel or some instruction sets or it might be missing pci-e lanes, but yeah some of the pins are nc aka not connected, and clearly the basics are working ie fsb, multi and voltage otherwise it wouldnt post at all. its possible to solder the pins back on but having seen people struggle and fumble and fail in the attempt on youtube its not worth the hassle. Clearly that chunk of motherboard was a dead or scrap board good way to keep the pins safe and it came in handy to test fit after straighting pins on some of the other cpu's you bought. From what i read pg 70ms is ok, 0 is deffinately a fail so i would hazard a geuss that below 50ms is bad. Qoute from Corsair "PG Values are usually considered normal if it falls within the range of 100ms - 500ms, but can be lower than 100ms at times. 0ms PG values would be considered a failing PSU" AM4 CPU stuck to heatsink cooler thats nothing new, ive come to the conclusion that the pins have become so fine that the socket clip mechanism cant hold em against sticky or dried thermal compound on the heatsink which is probably one of the reasons they changed to LGA on AM5 other than the sheer quantity of pins on the AM5 socket.
To be fair, I would rather receive a CPU in a junked motherboard socket than just a bag like the others. Genius level postage.
hahaha i was thinking the same thing
kinda funny how the cpu that was flying around in that bag arrived safe and sound
12:49 LMAO at you cutting the non-existant tape on the RAM package 😂
i think there was a very thin piece of tape there correct me if im wrong
11:20 Damn... that's by far the best way to ship Ryzen CPU. Having the CPU seated in the socket, will make sure that pins won't be bent. That guy is a genious.
You’re not wrong. It just completely threw me off 😂
Or just keep the cpu in its original packaging. I save the original packaging when I buy a new pc part, so I can sell it in the future
that Ryzen 7 in the motherboard got me dying 🤣
Me too. Cool little trophy haha
Hilarious @@ElijahsLab
you can't deny that it is the SAFEST possible packaging for the pins though !
Well, if you have a dead OEM board, what else are you gonna do with it? Not worth fixing, that's for sure. But if you cut out the socket, you can use it as a pin protector.
Anybody knows the motherboard's model? That size is perfect for a mini pc 😂
To straighten am4 cpus u can use a mechanical pencil, use the tiny metal needle that is at the tip and put it over the pins so u can straighten them. Hope this helps
Luer Lock blunt fill needle.
Or you can just use a card
I would have never imagined someone sending an motherboard chunk before your video. Some of my favorite listings are motherboards that include closeups of CPUs and then the sellers do not respond to messages or they take a really long time before telling you they are not.
Quite an effective way to protect the cpu!
@@ElijahsLab It was probably from a board that was otherwise already broken, like one that was shipped in some of that other lovely packaging you got, but really bent.
So some background on the PG (Power Good) signal. It is the amount of time that the power supply takes to do internal checks and become fully ready and stabilised. This should take between 100 ms and 500 ms.
If the PG signal takes less than 100 ms or more than 500 ms, it is considered abnormal but with newer technologies this tends to less than 100ms now. Your power supplies should be fine as long as it doesnt show really low PG ms
Honestly buying parts on eBay isn't bad. As long as you know what you're looking for. I've built a couple computers and resold them on eBay or marketplace.
last week on ebay i lowballed a seller for a supermicro matx c612 server motherboard, cpu, cooler combo from $250 to $100 and it’s still my best purchase because that board costs $500
U sure it's not an AliExpress c612 mini atx motherboard? Those are like $100. U prob still got an ok deal even if it was
CPU's can actually work while missing a few pins, never give up on a CPU if you snap off a pin. Many pins are ground or provide power and missing a few of them won't impact the cpu.
As someone who has done a lot of selling on eBay, only putting 'has bent pins' in small print in the description is 100% against eBay policy. If the seller tried to fight you on it, eBay would step in and force a resolution
11:20 dawg😭😭😭
i was dying
If you have a broken AM4 OEM MB, this is about all it is good for. They may have salvaged some components off the board or something and were left with a paperweight. This kind of resourcefulness is impressive and it was the people who just threw a bare CPU in the package that had me cracking up.
most underrated channel bro keep up the good work u got amazing vids
for the PG reading = 100mS to 500 mS is the ATX 'standard' it's just a timer for how long it takes the rails to all come up 'good', it can be below this and be just fine, though if it's abnormally low (0mS to 50mS) it's possible there is a fault in how it sequences, else slightly less than the standard is pretty much fine. But longer than standard may cause some hardware to hang as it means the rails are ramping up slower than specified. You tend to get conditions like 'brown-outs' as something downstream thinks it's fine to pull power, then it makes a partially-up rail collapse, and things fault.
awh yeah the og DIY SK RBG case lol, it's unironically one of the best cases you can buy, it's got a RGB controller, a glass panel, and a bunch of rooms for cable management AND an easily accessible storage drive mount, all for like $60 lol
Tip: if you take a razerblade on the pins it straightens them out very fast, I accidently dropped my 5800x3d and bent like 30 pins but the razerblade worked well
I’ll try that out next time. Thank you
please tell me you cut up that motherboard for the video, just between us, there's no way anyone on ebay is that unhinged lmao
The way people ship things off ebay is wild. I've seen this also..on a side note, you can use a credit card to straighten the pins on those cpu's. dont slip with tweezers, nightmares can happen with a slip up. good vid bro
I’ve tried like 4 different credit cards, both metal and plastic and they are all too thick, honestly best method in my opinion is (empty) mechanical pencil.
I just stumbled on your channel for the first time and gotta say love how ya keep it real and react like most of us would. I try and do same type of thing on my content. So i appreciate ya
There's a trick I did a long time ago with the FX CPUs. What you can do is you can get a stapler staple cut it to the correct length and insert it into the pin slot and then clamp the CPU down and makes the connection
11:30
Technically speaking this was the best packaged CPU in the video so far.
At least the seller protected the pins and the CPU wasn't stuck to something.
The way I like straighten pins, is by using the back of the blade on a knife and running it through the lanes and carefully bending the ones that need bending back. Basically if the knife blade run clear through it, no more bent pins!
It has worked great and my go to after I took a pin off using teasers too ;)
Bro performed a Aztec sacrifice with that r7 lmfaooo
These unboxing videos are satisfying to watch 😁
Unfortunately, a low "power good" number typically indicates a power supply that's on it's way out. I wouldn't use either of them.
I am pretty sure PG = Power Good and it showed it was good in 70 milliseconds instead of the normal 100 to 500 milliseconds so that can be a sign of better quality.
If it flashes it means it's below the normal range
@@TheBlueBunnyKen I did not notice the flashing but on a 6inch screen (cellphone) without my glasses it makes sense. I remember having some EVGA power supply's that did the exact same thing just at high 80's that lasted for over a decade.
I don't think There's actually anything wrong with it. I have seen it on several new power supplies and they all work just fine. If the voltages are all ok I would run it.
@@TheBlueBunnyKen There's nothing wrong with it according to Corsair. They have some that are
70ms is nothing to be concerned about on a friggin' EVGA Supernova, lol. If I saw that on an Aptiva PSU, I'd be reaching for the fire extinguisher.
11:17 best way to ship cpu LOL even better/safer than og packaging LOL W mans
I use floss picks to straighten pins out. They fit perfectly down the rows and have a little give in the tips so you don't accidently brute force one and break it. Been doing that since the AM2 days and it has always worked and I never broke one off. When I bargain hunt AMD cpu's on Ebay I always look for bent pin ones.
bro got the most unsafest packages with the most cleanest and best conditioned amd cpus
It’s always a gamble to buy PC parts on eBay. Sometimes you score something for a fraction of the price, and sometimes you buy something at market value and it doesn’t work!
I’ve personally had a great experience with eBay. Despite this video 😂
@@ElijahsLab So have I! The only thing that hasn’t worked was an i5-6400, but luckily that was only $20!
14:40 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_good_signal - Power good value is based on the delay in ms, that a power supply takes to become fully ready. Power good values are often considered abnormal if detected lower than 100 ms or higher than 500 ms.
It's out of spec, but will probably work.
Something I’ve been doing lately is immediately stress testing gpu’s when I get them off eBay. I’ve had a few that will “work” and then the second they reach 100% usage and operating temps, they will crash. Just my personal experience.
I’ve actually been thinking of a better way to actually stress tests the parts. Instead of just getting it to post
I guess the only way to do that is just to do it😂
Just takes a lot more time
"thought I smelled burning.. but just old ladies and house" lol
Awesome vid bro!
the trick in aligning the bent pins is using a cutting blade line it up in a row and gently straight the bented pins
you can also use a mechanical pencil to align the pins back, just make sure you remove the led so that the pin can go inside the point
o ms is failing. if your at a consistent 70 then your mobo may get stuck in a boot loop but if it boots and runs ok then you should be good
on bent pins on the ryzen cpus the best and most effective method I have found is actually to run a stanley blade gently through the gaps in a nice straight line and when getting to a bent pin give it a slight wiggle to straighten them. This way no breaking of the pins trying to use tweezers
bro receiving a CPU in a FRAGMENTED MOTHERBOARD IS CRAZY.
Finding and receiving a come up on ebay or similar sites is just such a rush of endorphines
the bent pins are MB_DQS_L[5] and VSS pins
Are they non important pins?
@@TheBlueBunnyKen I don't know tbh. If the pc works that's good news. He may stress bench it to ensure that everything is running ok.
MB_DQS_L is for RAM. Need memtest and 4 RAM slots. Bank B will have errors.
Those two pins missing off the CPU should be fairly easy to replace, they are right on the edge. You would need some donor pins and a rework gun, but if they are needed pins the CPU could be saved.
Check the pin layout and see if the pins broken are just ground. If they are, then you should be good as long as there is at least on pin left that has ground.
For the cpu with the broken pin. Sometimes you can just put the pin in the specific hole on the motherboard first then put the cpu itself in. I seen Tech Yes City try this once & it worked. Good luck. :)
That magnifying glass is a huge upgrade bro
It’s actually pretty nice. And pretty affordable
love that the cpu with the clamshell got damaged but the cpu with no protection is fine 🤣
3:05 This is where you simply return it. It isn't your job to fix their mistake and if you don't ding 'em for it, they never learn. If they didn't mark the listing 'for parts or repair', then you are covered by the guarantee, regardless of any fine print in the description.
7:29 OMG, how hard is it to tape a piece of cardboard over the socket? Also, it is very difficult to spot bent pins in a LGA MB with the naked eye.
You should really support the bottom of the MB when seating RAM. One of these days, you'll crack a solder joint and break the board doing it like that. Just because you see a million people doing it on YT doesn't make it OK. Electronics are delicate. Treat them accordingly.
A blunt tip syringe fill needle works the best for straightening CPU pins.
You can't call a GPU good just because it gives a picture in BIOS. Requires extensive benchmark and stress testing and I guarantee all the GPUs you bought need new thermal paste and possibly new pads too if they've been mined on. I bet that 3070 was used for mining.
I wouldn't say you overpaid or anything but you hardly got any spectacular deals. The 1080 for $80 was a decent score but you also have to remember that a PC with a 1080 is probably worth about $400-450. And that's if you can even sell it. The market is slumping pretty hard right now. It is tough to sell a PC with only 16GB RAM or a GPU that doesn't support DX12U. Most people willing to pay anything more than $500 will expect 32GB RAM, 12GB VRAM and at least a TB of storage. Maybe you have some sort of local market bubble but I wouldn't want to be sitting on all these components right now.
You still don't know if the GPUs you bought are fully functional and same goes for all the CPUs, especially the one missing two pins. Yeah, they might not do anything. But it is more likely they do and you will experience reduced performance or even an unstable system. System stability testing takes a lot more than 5 minutes. In fact, it could load into BIOS but be nothing but BSODs in Windows. I recently fixed bent socket pins on a Haswell MB and it took multiple passes. At one point, I thought I had it but as soon as Windows started loading, it crashed, because one of the pins still wasn't making contact. Eventually I got it. But you're not gonna be able to put those pins back on the CPU. I'd say you were more optimistic than you had any reason to be throughout this entire video.
If you buy a cheap B350 or B450 for it, you can buy an old Athlon 64 X2 for $1, break off some pins with a razor blade and put them in the socket where your Ryzen is missing them. I've had this work several times - one time they even got attached to the CPU after taking it out of the socket.
You need to test for stability, especially RAM channels, if you're not replacing the pins OR confirm with the pin diagram that they are only ground.
Obviously disclose this to the seller. If they ever wanted to replace the CPU, they'd need ta magnet and tiny tweezer to get the pins out of the board again most likely.
I have done the same thing with USB header that was missing the data carrier pin. Was able to salvage a pin from a broken motherboard and put it into the USB female connector with a little sticking out to make contact. It worked.
You can also snip aluminum bobby pins the right length and that works 99.99% of the time. The only time it didn't work, was on an old Athlon CPU in the early to mid 00's.
I have bought A LOT of pc parts on ebay over the years. Only had issues a few times, and Ebay buyer protection is next level. If you truly get hosed by a seller Ebay will always give your money back.
so my experience buying pc parts on ebay. couple of graphics cards which were quick replacements when my other died, so got them cheap, sold as working. showed graphical glitches and red squares on screen within a few weeks. I did get another graphics card many years ago which worked, also a motherboard, worked but then messed up if I tried overclocking. it turned out to be the caps on the board, so replaced them and it worked. cpu was fine, memory came up with few errors on this old memory test I used to use. hard drives I wouldn't even bother with.
Awesome video - Cool results.
wished i was from usa so id have ebay us europians have marketplace and aliexpress💀
We have ebay as well, it will just be hella expensive to get it shipped
@@Jarmo928 yeah let me buy a gtx 980 for 50$ but the shipping is only 100$
@@alon4417 We still have ebay? It's just very expensive to get items shipped over sea.
yeah in canada here and shipping costs for ebay are insane so i just use marketplace mostly
💀
Insane deal on that 1070 wow.
the packaging with the motherboard piece is hilarioua
For bending Ryzen CPU pins back try using a mechanical pencil.
It works wonders for me.
bro what 😂 i low-key thought that thumbnail was click bait wtf 😂
Also to the credit of the seller of that mobo chunk. Maybe it was trashed already and they knew it would be the best way to ship the cpu without it getting any damage?
That's why I usually only buy CPUs together with a motherboard bundle. I've already lost a lot of money because of things like the bent pins
Actually, using a chunk of dead mobo to protect the pins is kind of clever.
Great video! Iv been steaming building PCs lately been having alot of fun, STOP CUTTING TOWARDS YOURSELF you make me nervous😅
I bet your phone has good enough zoom to see those bent pins without buying a magnifying glass. And it would have a built in light on it too!
Used to flip PC's, and do custom PC builds in the 90's, rounding out over two hundred units sold, before I settled into new job, bought a lot of stuff from eBay, to cut costs on PC's I flipped , bought hundred of items, was lucky as only had two issues, one a CPU with bent pins, and a non functioning dead GPU, for me it wasn't much difference between buying new Vs used parts, as quality control with new parts can pose problems, nice video, and like others wondering how you you know how old ladies smell, wait on second thought rather not know 😄
QC sucks right now. I'd rather buy used. A used component that has been used for a couple of years just had a thorough QC test in my mind. Before COVID, I had only had one DOA new component in 25 years. I've had several DOA new components since COVID. Have also had several RMAs since COVID and had one in the preceding 25 years.
If it weren't for the fact Amazon has some good deals and easy returns, I probably would only buy used at this point. New is a hell of a premium for a big question mark, whereas, if a reputable eBay seller says it is working, there's a 99.999999999% chance it does.
Been having a good laugh at all the 4090 and 14900KS failures. I would say that all those posers got exactly what they deserved.
bro trust me use a mechanical pencil with a metal tip to straighten out the pins. it's like the perfect tool
this is why when I buy CPUs on eBay, I either go new with a new ryzen, used intel, or a used ryzen motherboard combo.
In my experience of getting PC parts from eBay, it is always been good
the psu issues could be because youre not using the exact same cables that the psus were suppsoed to be used with (Potential mix up)
Yup, one of the flaws of fully modular psu's. The cables of the original unit only work with the psu it came with
That is a good point. However they are essentially the same exact power supply
Just different wattages. Do you think the cables are different?
Modular psu cables only work with the unit they are sold with supposedly
Usuall rule of Power Good (PG) the lower the MS the faster the PSU turns on and delivers Power, i personally would only bother if its too high not too low.
Wow these prices are extremely low. Here in Europe the prices are 20-50 euros higher than yours in America
That's what I'm saying bro, america is fairytale land
I’m kind of surprised tbh, I’ve bought 3 r5 3600s from eBay for flips and they came in perfect condition.
I have seen that PG "error" on a bunch of new power supplies lately and they all work just fine. I have the same tester that you have.
10:18 i wouldnt use those cables but go and request new cables from evga s mixing up cables is dangerous
Bought a RX 6700 that was mistakenly listed as a 6600. Sticker was missing, so guess that's why they didn't know; however, I noticed the different power connectors and scored a deal.
I recently grabbed up a 3060ti Founders Edition from eBay for 250 and its runs great. Temps are on point and benchmarks really high. Also grabbed a 5800x and got the same great experience. I feel like I got pretty lucky. They run so well together especially with the Samsung B Die I have 3600 CL 14
Buyer protection is solid on ebay, at least.
Every time you buy something online you need to look at the reviews of it that's online buying rule number one
I recommend using heat and a toothpick for bending those pins. Love the content bro
I’ll try that out next time I come cross some bent pins
Well a bit late, but checked for you, the 2 missing pins are half fine, ne is GND, teh other is MB_DQS_L5 so probably 2 ram slots will be dead, but the rest is fine. If you need pin info, you can find boardviews o mobos and check where the pins go.
nice video man :)
Thank you 😊
"Why did I buy so many CPU's"... BRO...cause you've, bro, got money to blow, like bro, on random crap, baby!
im appauled at some of the packaging on these cpus
if you're lucky you can get away with 1 missing pin and it'll still work, though i would at least try fixing that at some point cuz you never know if it is needed
Is jawa in australia? Or jus the us
Cool that guy shipped you a Ryzen CPU Pin Tester LOL
I try to get steals off of this auction in my state but banger video Elijah
i had bought a motherboard the seller sent the board in its origanal box without any bubble wrap or packaging and stuck a postal label on the box .
I sent the seller a message saying i am not happy the way the motherboard came through the postal system , i have not tried it but i am sending it back for a refund .
He said okay you can send it back for a refund , but his explanation for it is the seller bought it off another ebay exactly the same way he sent it to him .
I said i am not interested how he sent it to you , but if you going to send it through the mail you either have to bubble wrap it or put it in a box.
That’s one way to ensure the seller can’t turn and say you broke it, if it was broken
@@ElijahsLab when i sell components i bubble wrap them and secure them due to knocks and when they throw packages in cages .
I sent a cpu in a plastic container a cpu comes in , then in a small box ,inside with bubble wrap then the box is also bubble wrapped , then in a postage bubble wrap letter and taped and sealed .
the buyer was very happy how i wrapped to make sure the cpu will not go bad in transit .
a good customer always comes back , i been on ebay for years and i do not have not one negative feedback.
thats one Unconventional Packaging if i've ever seen one
Should use a sewing needle or razor blade to bend pins back
nah i would've still said it was misleading for that one seller to have the cpu not listed as for parts
Antistatic packaging? or am i just old? And regarding the bent pins, as long as they are not smashed flat, then a bit of careful work while straightening should get them fixed.
Hey Elijah, not sure if you’ll see this, but I just got started with PC flipping (mainly because of your videos), and I was just wondering if I should spend the extra money to buy a wifi card for my builds without mobo wifi. I feel like a lot of people don’t have access to ethernet and wifi could be a big selling point. Do you think spending the extra money on the wifi card is worth it? Thanks
even a brand new msi a850gl,some corsair psus might read 80pg ,as long as voltage is okay ,no issues
the cpu packaging is A tier 😂
Be careful with those modular psu's if you mix cables from one another it might be incopatible even in the same model and might damege components.
I think PG stands for: Probably Gonna(burn/explode/die) 😄 Great video.. I wonder how the person broke the mobo without damaging the CPU. Looks like they just cracked it off the edge of a desk 🤣
my heart is bleeding from every badly shipped cpu
If I sell my parts I keep the original boxes so I can easily re-sell them
@@TheBlueBunnyKen same
I’ve been flipping, if I’m lucky 10% of what I bid on I get and I can’t get any ddr4 people paying more than retail I think they don’t take the cost of shipping in to account. I get my ram off Amazon, 16g ddr4 3200mhz is $29 on Amazon. I did get 4 scores of Facebook marketplace today though but the laser printer I scored is for me. Sick of buying ink.
Some PSU's power up on a circuit delay. I have the same tester as you and I have seen that issue on one particular Thermaltake PSU and it's actually a high end one. The tester is trying to see a timed feedback and it will not get it with some PSU's.
The 3800X CPU with the missing pins, you might lose a memory channel or some instruction sets or it might be missing pci-e lanes, but yeah some of the pins are nc aka not connected, and clearly the basics are working ie fsb, multi and voltage otherwise it wouldnt post at all. its possible to solder the pins back on but having seen people struggle and fumble and fail in the attempt on youtube its not worth the hassle. Clearly that chunk of motherboard was a dead or scrap board good way to keep the pins safe and it came in handy to test fit after straighting pins on some of the other cpu's you bought. From what i read pg 70ms is ok, 0 is deffinately a fail so i would hazard a geuss that below 50ms is bad. Qoute from Corsair "PG Values are usually considered normal if it falls within the range of 100ms - 500ms, but can be lower than 100ms at times. 0ms PG values would be considered a failing PSU" AM4 CPU stuck to heatsink cooler thats nothing new, ive come to the conclusion that the pins have become so fine that the socket clip mechanism cant hold em against sticky or dried thermal compound on the heatsink which is probably one of the reasons they changed to LGA on AM5 other than the sheer quantity of pins on the AM5 socket.
That’s crazy how they just cut their motherboard, at least it keeps the pins from bending lol the wonders of ebay
My first computer build was from eBaY parts, I only spent around $500 lol. After that I just kept buying new parts.
Oh ya and I once built a computer with a broken pin too, it was an AMD, it still worked too... !
The only information I gathered from this video is that nobody knows how to package a CPU CORRECTLY 😭