Axe Capital & Dark Pools Trading Stocks Explained | Billions Season 4
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Today we'll talk about the Billions Season 4 concept of dark pools -- what are they and how do they work?
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Hey man, loved the video, you made a subscriber out of me!
So can you have more shares in a dark pool then shares outstanding?
"Highly regulated by the SEC" lol you got jokes.
indeed
Jokes aside, you're very talented at explaining complex concepts in simple terms.
Thanks!
I love the show Billions and your explanations of the various trading and financial methods/jargons is really helpful. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Will do
This channel is a godsend, I am preparing for CFA II exams in May , and was looking a way to revise and consolidate and by looking at your videos, I think there is hope,
Oh God. Good luck my friend. You are brave. I quit after passing the first one 😂
Robinhood orders don't go to an exchange, they go to a trading firm, which fills the order. Robinhood and the trading firm split the profits.
Should be illegal to own the marketplace and profit off the exchange like Citadel does.
Wow man, been trading for over 15 years and never heard of this. Cool video.
Yaaa it's an instructional thing mostly. Thanks!
you cannot be a trader and not know about dark pools
That is because what these kids are calling dark pools we used to call brokerages.
You traded for 15 years and never heard of dark pools? You ain’t a trader. I work as a natty trader for a firm and man, I see all these UA-cam and Instagram losers making charts and calling themselves traders... it’s hilarious
You cant be serious. Unless you're a "retail trader" IE you just have lots of free time and are very wealthy regardless of trades lol
The people who wrote this show is very very smart... amazing video!
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Excellent. Info.....I'm a new guy..since late summer....using cash app and Robin ...
hedge funds utilize the dark pools to purchase synthetic shares...and short into oblivion. of course all of this is poorly hidden..but can be found on finra under otc(non-ats) data issued. a great video would be how this is done to manipulate the market.
Started googling immediately I heard the word, very informative stuff, thanks.
Really appreciated the clarity of your explanation in this episode, especially grounding it in the context of the importance of the price discovery mechanism as the purpose of markets.
Thanks!
Love the Financial INFORMATION explanations.... I think we should start a HEDGE FUND in the Dark Pools!!!!👍
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Efficient video for onboarding a newbie on dark pools. Thxs ak.
slowly becomig my fav channel
Hopefully it speeds up!
Keep doing these Billions videos. They are the best.
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Big boys will eventually outsmart themselves
great coverage. anyone who thinks the market is "fair" and isnt manipulated shouldnt be trading. when it's MMs vs Retail, MMs always win. Best way to trade imo is following dark pools.
Thanks!
What did McFee have access to that allowed him to see these large dumps of stock by Axe capital? The dialog in the show makes it sound like McFee has a contact inside one of these dark pool organizations that is feeding him information about trading activity so he could make the suggestion to Taylor of front running Axe Capital. It seems the important thing to know how to do with these dark pools is to be able to analize the trading patterns in such a way that you can predict a large stock dump or a large stock buyback. My question is how do you develope these skills and what should you be looking for that indicates this kind of activity. I want to be able to trade like McFee if I ever have the opportunity to trade at all.
I'm with you on that one
I have 100 shares of a company called Carecloud , it has recently been sold to another company and now i cant sell or buy the stock.??
A very good informative video, i really appreciate the breakdown of these financial terms and the examples used from Billions, keep it up my man 👊🏼
nice overview... side note - Liquidnet remains one of the true darkpools... others are not necessarily design for the benefit of institutional players
Thanks! Liquidnet... Got it
love your videos man learn so much from you! keep up the awesome work.
Yeah man. Gotta get that darkpool money. Dark shit in this bitchhhhhhh
So, essentially you don’t need to pay dark pool data you need good contacts to know when a company is planning to sell or buy using the dark pool .
I love this explanation. Was just explaining this to my wife ahaha
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Dope channel really underrated, you should make a video about emerging markets
Lololol one day
Thank you for that great explanation. Keep up the awesome content. :)
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Two questions, would volume from the dark pool show up on public charts that the rest of us use eventually, since you said there was a delay, or will it never show up? Like might not see it on the minute charts, but would see it on the daily by end of day or something? Second question is why would stock be trading at $160 in the dark pool and $180 on the public exchanges like your example? It would be stupid to sell in the dark pool if this was the case. Could probably do a market order to unload your entire position on public exchange at $180 without it ever getting pushed down to $160 even with a monstrous position size. Find it hard to believe there would be this big of a discrepancy between the two.
Yea it's a delay, so it eventually shows up. I'm not certain on the time frame.
That was just an example. If that was the case then you would buy on the dark pool and flip it on the exchange. As you said, it's doubtful there is that big of a discrepancy
Great stuff sir! Could you please explain the Victor Mateo scandal in the next video please?
How do you get around this?
Dude...can you tell me if the bulk trades on money control are the same thing as the dark pools cause they are only visible only when the trades are already done
Hm not familiar with money control
Just found you good Sir, really digging this video and your style in laying it out.
Thanks
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I made lil bit of money of Robin Hood but this video basically told me. I’m just a pawn to this big companies.... I don’t have they most recent or best data so I’m getting fucked in the A no matter what.
Ehhh you can still do really well. Just gotta realize the game being played and play around it
walks in 1 min before market open and gives order to sell through darkpools to trading team...
don't know whats more wrong here
giving their traders strategy advice on to sell off in darkpools which the trader should know in the first place if they are going to be dumping big size..
Or giving trade instructions 1 minute before the market opens.
Seriously the equivalent of teaching someone how to play basketball at the start of the game in the play offs.
but it's great drama!
Dude awesome content, subscribed
Thanks!
Nice! I am going to check out that tv show!
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And where would the transaction could be seen if it didn't happen yet(obv not via dark pool but normal market)?
Thanks!:)
What do you mean?
AK, Question, when the hedge funds need to cover their shorts, can they seek institutions willing to sell to them without going to the public exchange first? Basically, I fear all of the apes will hold out, but the institutions in the dark pool has first dibs.
Here coz of amc dark pool trading
Wouldn't the explosion of the natural gas storage containers drive the price up due to reduced supply ? Not sure why the needed to exit the position.
Yea but the actual companies could get rocked because of environmental damage
No consumer in their right mind would see a gas storage explosion on the news and say "Better get me some gas, supply just diminished". Instead they would probably reach the much saner conclusion that "Gas is volatile and explosive, better get it out of my house." That kind of drop in demand would kill the price of gas.
@@markkond8565 I was referring to institutional investors, not consumers.
Loving your content !
Thanks!
great video, subbed!
So its advantageous for sellers? So whos buying in dark pool?
Make a video about isda from big short
Yea will be moving to all movies after this season is over
Yoo is that principle books? You bought 2?
Both r gifts. One is signed lol
Quick question, from legal perspective, is this information considered as “non public material”? From Axe’s perspective it clear is, cause he immediately knows the stock price will drop regardless no company name was mentioned in the phone call. He then acted on this info. Is it legal to do so?
I think it's a blurred line. Might fall under mosaic theory.
Do more videos about dark pools!
Too dark for me... Lol
If you’re unloaded 500k shares privately wouldn’t the public pool notice at a certain point?
Yes, eventually. But by then the seller has profited at their preferred price.
But if they’re dumping/ selling shares like in the episode Wags force the guy to buy it. Won’t the buyer experience that lost when the gas blow up??? Isn’t that illegal.
Yup he will take a loss. I have that video coming out today. It's not illegal because it's not like he has a gun to his head. Those guys are market makers and are able to do that.
@@Macro-Ops so darkpool is pretty much market makers?
i am more intrested in knowing the Investopedia thingy, please tell me more about it
Hi thanks a lot for your vid. the delivery is very clear, I gained a lot from it!
do you have any advice where to gain additional fundamental data for trading equites please?.. also im trading FX, so any advice on where to gain production and distribution data for the US will be great, if you have any tips?
Im also looking at how to interprete monetary and fiscal policy, using the macros. any tips for that too (thank you!)
Head over to macro-ops.com
There's a lot of info on all of that there
Another dope video.
Thanks!
why wouldnt bobby make all his trades through darkpools? Since he wouldnt want anyone to see what he was trading
Ya most of the big ones
@@Macro-Ops But if all his trading information is made public then why cant I just see what he is buying or selling do the same?
This is great!
yeah, free market, give insto's a cloak-and-dagger way to trade....
do these dark pool have a participant id i can add to my market depth setting and see their order or on the tape during or after an execution?
Buy & Hold AMC GME
Great knowledge but it is hard getting used to seeing a microphone in the kitchen...lol
the kitchen is where the food is. food is key
What do mean LEVEL3 do we have 1 like LEVEL2
level 2 is an order book
Explain why Wags was wearing a dress?
That one is coming 👍🏽
I see, then how come institutions don't make ALL their trades on dark pools?
If it's not rushed like in this situation, you have traders that sell lots over weeks so that you get a good price. I think dark pools are best if u have to sell huge amounts right away.
Probably because sometimes you actually *do* want to move the price. That would be my guess.
Is Billions like Succesion but with competent people?
No, succession is a way better show
Seconddd！thanks for the video!
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It is all about the big guys and they are the one making the real money rest is just surviving.
Sad but true
this info is obsolete, dark pool flows show on the level 2, traders use it all the time for info. You obviously havent traded in years, dark pools are very common nowadays
Hmm you might be using the light grey pools. You should definitely switch to straight dark.
Most US equity dark pools do not show the orderbook.
@@Macro-Ops there are benefits to lit venues as well. Sometimes you might want to show intent and/or get faster executions. It depends on the situation.
AMC brought me here.
If the bank is trying to unload these shares, who are the dummies buying?
Dark pool is very dark when abuse but it's legal 😂😂😂
How is that legal.
Well technically anyone can sell their stock to anyone else privately as long as it's reported
it doesn't have to be reported to the public though, right?
I think it does so that markets can be efficient and function. Otherwise there are price discrepancies which is not good for a healthy market
so there is just a delay in the reporting which allows the front-running to occur? do you happen to know how significant the reporting delay is?
Amc brought me
Are Dark pools similar to dabba trading in India?
I'm not familiar with dabba trading
GameStop is the wall st created blackswan gme gmesqueeze
just reinforces the fact that as an individual you are playing a rigged financial game against the super rich
Well u just gotta play the right game as an individual to account for that
Why do you think it's called ”Dark Pool”?
It's "dark" because there's no light so no on can see anything you're doing
In and out like GTA then ship the capital to Switzerland 🇨🇭 LOL 😆
"highly regulated"...lol
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What u do for work u work at a investment firm?
Investment research firm - macro-ops.com
Hahahahahahaha...
WTF?
Dark pools?
Theyre just brokerages.
what's the name of the Movie(movie clip) in the video