I Disassembled This Deck As It Wouldn't Stop Winning

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  • @WinkelmeisterEder
    @WinkelmeisterEder Місяць тому +42

    I've had a very similar deck for a while now and it's a lot of fun to play!
    Some of the differences and changes that might be worth considering:
    - The power level of the deck can actually be modulated by a single decision made on the first Rocco tutor:
    - Norin for a nice casual experience
    - Mistbreath Elder for a bit more speed
    - Wirewood Symbiote for when you really wanna crank it up (the card is hilariously good)
    - I'm running 15 Ramp pieces that cost 2 or less, specifically to guarantee dropping Rocco on turn 3
    - Boromir, Warden of the Tower can be used in combination with Samwise Gamgee to have access to a Selfless Spirit effect every single turn-cycle
    - Relic of Legends is very *very* good, turning both Rocco and Norin into mana dorks (which gets stupid with Wirewood Symbiote). This can even let you Swords or Path things on other turns with no mana up once Norin comes back in the end step
    - Should Norin somehow die, Rocco for Extraction Specialist to get him back immediately
    - Mardu Woe-Reaper is fantastic graveyard hate in this deck (Norin does happen to be a Warrior, even if he is a coward)
    - Mace of the Valiant becomes a very big bonk stick very quickly
    EDIT: www.moxfieldcom/decks/VAFSVPXNRk61ijPX6qGx3w Here's the link to the list, just add the dot.

    • @phobia2.0
      @phobia2.0 Місяць тому +3

      Heya, sorry to ask, do you perhaps have a list to share of the different things you've added? tysm in advance :)

    • @DaPujj
      @DaPujj Місяць тому +1

      Had a look at your deck, cool stuff! Do you ever feel the lack of draw you’re running affects you?

    • @WinkelmeisterEder
      @WinkelmeisterEder Місяць тому +3

      @@DaPujj That's what Rocco is for after all, just grabs Welcoming Vampire or Moon-Blessed Cleric (which then gets whatever you want). I'd replace something with Enduring Innocence if I had one. Also with the number of times I'm casting Rocco to grab something I never really run out of cards in hand.
      Baumi's version of the deck just grabs Norin first every time and plays a lot more draw effects that work with him due to that, I abuse Rocco more to have access to a wide variety to stuff and can therefore cut down on the amount of similar effects I'm running

    • @etlou5921
      @etlou5921 29 днів тому +1

      so cool ! I'll look it up

    • @lachlanmeijer8706
      @lachlanmeijer8706 29 днів тому +1

      The red card Ather Revolt from MH3 is pretty good, it works basically as a second copy of torbrand if your looking for one, or plying buget as its less then 50 cents

  • @svovy5358
    @svovy5358 29 днів тому +20

    Norin: "Will this life of suffering never end?"
    Prodigal Sorcerer: "I got you"

    • @nikolibarastov4487
      @nikolibarastov4487 26 днів тому

      I was just going to say, there are a plethora of Activated Abilities that would stop Norin, but not many players run them.

    • @monogreen
      @monogreen 14 днів тому

      This is what Blessed Sanctuary is for.

  • @austinpotter9370
    @austinpotter9370 29 днів тому +14

    Holy cow, I just watched the intro without looking at the channel and thought to myself, "That voice sounds familiar." Without realizing that it was Baumi the whole time! I used to watch you HoN videos years ago and it's awesome to see that you're making magic content! Cheers!

    • @19Frank12
      @19Frank12 28 днів тому +1

      Had the same but from Dota

  • @leoheyns
    @leoheyns Місяць тому +16

    Panharmonicon effects have an additional benefit, Rocco's tutor ability is an etb trigger which will be doubled.

  • @juliand.1147
    @juliand.1147 Місяць тому +65

    I think split second dosen't actually stop triggered abilities

    • @juliand.1147
      @juliand.1147 Місяць тому +5

      so norin would still survive split second removal

    • @juliand.1147
      @juliand.1147 Місяць тому +2

      Also love this deck list =)

    • @CommanderBaumi
      @CommanderBaumi  Місяць тому +22

      Seems you're right! I'm always learning new things, that's why Magic is so cool. And that makes Norin even more impossible to kill lmao

    • @danielharrison2383
      @danielharrison2383 Місяць тому +3

      @@CommanderBaumi yeah it would have to be an activated ability.

    • @meertch
      @meertch Місяць тому +4

      @@CommanderBaumi Containment Priest, Hallowed Moonlight, and Mistcaller could eat Norin instead of him returning. Cycling Nimble Obstructionist to stifle Norin's leave trigger could leave him susceptible to other forms of interaction, assuming you don't also have an instant to cast in response to hide him again. Cards like Lethal Vapors and Portcullis would deal with him, but you'd still get the ETB triggers on other things and since they're triggers you can flicker Norin out again with another instant, buying you some time. There's also ways to make having a Norin be detrimental to its owner, like slamming an Overburden and having them bounce all their own lands.

  • @eriks_trip
    @eriks_trip 29 днів тому +6

    Skullwinder actually does not commit a crime. You choose an opponent, without targeting, and then they choose a card in their graveyard, again without targeting. Committing a crime needs a target to go off.

  • @INTstincts
    @INTstincts 15 днів тому +1

    Funny deck, I might be crazy enough to proxy a version of it for the next game night lol.
    Worth noting, at 18:30, you mentioned split second cards -- these actually don't prevent Norin from triggering, they only stop players from casting spells or activating abilities. Norin still gets to peacefully excuse himself from the table, which means that's one less thing that can actually deal with him. What a safe, OSHA-compliant little dude!

  • @naitsab_33
    @naitsab_33 29 днів тому +4

    That Secret Rendezvous + Freestrider Lookout joke had no right to be as funny as it was :D

  • @Meme_Deluxe
    @Meme_Deluxe 27 днів тому +1

    Both Riftsweeper and Pull from Eternity are thankfully in the color identity of this deck, so you could REALLY confirm that Norin can almost never truly be removed from the game

  • @leoheyns
    @leoheyns Місяць тому +3

    I think a card which has been incredible for me in this deck is wirewood symbiote, it lets you play rocco over and over again. It's so good that I shifted most of my ramp to mana dorks (especially ones that make more than one mana).

  • @MrTylerMatyas
    @MrTylerMatyas 29 днів тому +2

    As a mono red commander Norin player this pleases me greatly, and Genesis Chamber is one of my favorite cards to run with Norin.
    Thank you for this. I've been casually messing with 60 card Naya and Boros Norin sister's decks for years now

  • @michaeltodd343
    @michaeltodd343 2 дні тому

    This deck sounds amazing! My Rube Goldberg Machine brain *loves* all these Combos, I might need to put this one together. Thanks for the awesome vid!

  • @supremecourt4131
    @supremecourt4131 Місяць тому +4

    The editing of this video is immaculate

  • @shinygamer3424
    @shinygamer3424 24 дні тому

    I kind of wish there was a cycle of cards that combined Rocco with the partner mechanic. Specifically a mechanic like: "Beastmaster Partner": At the start of the game, choose a nonlegendary creature of x creature type. It becomes your commander alongside this one. Would be pretty cool to have a commander that lets you pick your favorite nonlegendary dragon as a commander. It wouldn't be nearly as flexible as Rocco's ability, restricting you to only one creature of a specific type, so maybe there's a way to make it not broken.

  • @Cynidecia
    @Cynidecia Місяць тому +9

    3 color Norin? i like your thinking.

  • @John_Smith_Dumfugg
    @John_Smith_Dumfugg 26 днів тому

    That's neat. I made my rocco deck a giltleaf archdruid secret commander druid tribal deck. Ramps ridiculously fast and then holds the table's lands hostage before casting massive fireballs or hydras. Very fun.

  • @DCode504
    @DCode504 2 дні тому

    I can see from many of the card choices that Baumi is a (MTGGoldfish) Richard enjoyer.
    Secret Rendezvous, Fog, Bouncelands, Skullwinder, ...

  • @baustinb7677
    @baustinb7677 24 дні тому

    Don’t forget that any lord effect buffing your creatures like war leaders call will negate cards like innocence and Saradoc from triggering off norin

  • @DH-gv6cj
    @DH-gv6cj 26 днів тому +1

    twinshot sniper's channel ability
    that card is relevant removal

    • @DH-gv6cj
      @DH-gv6cj 26 днів тому

      *removal for norin

  • @danielharrison2383
    @danielharrison2383 Місяць тому +7

    My God! What have you served up?

  • @willosborne3711
    @willosborne3711 29 днів тому +1

    This is crazy. A video from an old channel - I used to watch ALL your dota videos back in the day - on a commander I'm really interested in building in this specific strategy!
    I currently have a mono-red Norin deck and it's a lot of fun but quite salty. You are forced to go pure chaos which a lot of people don't like.
    And there's no good card draw or enchantment removal!
    Very curious about this, will be giving it a try

  • @boodriesje
    @boodriesje 29 днів тому +2

    amazing deck dude!

  • @rylanfreeze1095
    @rylanfreeze1095 24 дні тому

    I made this exact deck, except I basically crammed everything I could for card draw with norin’s etb. I find squee + worldfire, and float enough to cast both as a wincon

  • @monogreen
    @monogreen 14 днів тому

    Norin the Wary was my favourite card for ages. I played it in standard alongside pandemonium, casual decks with Confusion in the ranks, and yes I also built this deck, it was pretty stupid.

  • @matthewjohnson3656
    @matthewjohnson3656 Місяць тому +2

    I love these kinds of decks to goldfish- but to not dominate game time I have to rush through stuff and people get confused

    • @rhysbenson2061
      @rhysbenson2061 Місяць тому

      I have a buddy who plays this deck as well. Fortunately the triggers from norin on end of turn are pretty straightforward and simple. I’ve never felt like my friend monopolized game time with the deck. He is the threat basically every time though. Every card is an engine basically so he’s always scary.

  • @CaptainSnugzGaming
    @CaptainSnugzGaming 23 дні тому

    I'm new to MTG so hopefully someone could answer this.
    If you have buff enchantments say enough to add +3/+3 to all creatures you control.
    Noran ETBs as his 2/1 self. Wouldn't the ETB triggers if power is 3 or less apply to the stack before the enchantments that boost stats?

  • @janniswoyde757
    @janniswoyde757 Місяць тому

    I've built almost the exact deck about a year ago, and i can confirm, it is an absolute menace. Amazing Video!

  • @brendan-kfp7.62mmminigun4
    @brendan-kfp7.62mmminigun4 Місяць тому +1

    Oh this, this is like. And budget, too! This is fantastic.

  • @arvinsim
    @arvinsim 2 дні тому

    Do you have a more expensive version of this deck? This looks like fun in EDH tournaments with a higher price ceiling like $200

  • @lachlanmeijer8706
    @lachlanmeijer8706 29 днів тому

    The red card Ather Revolt from MH3 is pretty good, it works basically as a second copy of torbrand if your looking for one, or plying buget as its less then 50 cents

  • @AltFFearYT
    @AltFFearYT 26 днів тому

    thx for the video. i just built Norin mono Red because I'm a big fan of this boy, but in Naya colours it seems more fun. will try it out :D

  • @theunikronus7204
    @theunikronus7204 Місяць тому +5

    This is the goofiest deck I have ever seen and I love it.

    • @cheapskateotaku7123
      @cheapskateotaku7123 Місяць тому +1

      Rachel Week has a deck something like this, unique and awesome fun trolling
      What make this deck most scary is the consistency it can be pull off due to the tutor effect by the commander and the rest of the poll of cards in the deck is gas of draws and death from a thousand cut burn 1 repeatedly 😅

  • @Elgranmentor1
    @Elgranmentor1 25 днів тому

    Excellent deck! Can’t wait to prove it! Tell me: would you be up for a Hapatra Budget deck? Still resists me 😅😅 greetings from Spain!

  • @ceruaphadion
    @ceruaphadion 29 днів тому

    Sweet deck tech. Any jund or goldari commander to brew?

  • @altejoh
    @altejoh 29 днів тому +1

    My pod would be upset that you recommend against something like Aura Shards but give the OK to East Tree xD

  • @sir_quirkus7206
    @sir_quirkus7206 7 днів тому

    my buddy made his mon red norin into this with my recommendation and this decks is so much fun to play against and with

  • @thegreenmoon8823
    @thegreenmoon8823 24 дні тому

    This deck is awesome I love Norin the wary since I have a mono red Norin deck and man does it end games fast if I'm able to get the right pieces

  • @Feranokrema
    @Feranokrema 29 днів тому

    If you add the new Norin as well, you can reuse Rocco if anyone ever decides to block him. xD

  • @somethingnotidiotic1629
    @somethingnotidiotic1629 Місяць тому

    Oh damn, it’s that one dota guy. I was going crazy trying to recognize your voice.

  • @cenobit0815
    @cenobit0815 28 днів тому

    also immer schön die engines abschießen. gut zu wissen :)

  • @naphackDT
    @naphackDT Місяць тому +1

    So... If someone were to rip Norin from your deck before you got to tutor him up, say, with a praetor's grasp, you are screwed?

    • @Mr_B-xo8et
      @Mr_B-xo8et Місяць тому +1

      i've added riftsweeper to stop certain exile cards from doing this, unfortunately nothing to protect cards that exile face down.

    • @specialk5523
      @specialk5523 29 днів тому

      I think I would return the favor and deflecting swat your card with a wild richochete, with no need to rely on some Tibalts trickery.

  • @joshcuker5877
    @joshcuker5877 Місяць тому +2

    The thumbnail is a lie. If u go onto the moxfield link provided, it's roughly around $135

    • @pf.simoes
      @pf.simoes 28 днів тому

      It's in euros, the european market prices are very different.

    • @davidsantiago7808
      @davidsantiago7808 27 днів тому

      The thumbnail says 50 Euros bro. Not USD. Also moxfield isn't always accurate.

    • @Fizmow
      @Fizmow 22 дні тому

      Also depends where you buy from. The price listed is from card kingdom, if you buy from tcg player, before shipping it is actually only $45 and $65 after shipping

  • @finnschauder9572
    @finnschauder9572 Місяць тому

    I didn't know you made magic content. I found you through your Dota content and loved it. Guess I have a new Channel to watch.

  • @michaelroni6781
    @michaelroni6781 29 днів тому

    Hi, love the deck.
    But why there is 2 gala greeters. In norin value and norin lifegain ?

    • @ren_gaming
      @ren_gaming 24 дні тому

      you can tags to put a card in multiple categories, pretty standard when making a deck to do this

  • @jpmhometv1819
    @jpmhometv1819 29 днів тому

    This ist the First Video of Not DotA Baumi im watching, and i did not notice. I positivly supprised.

  • @granite_4576
    @granite_4576 Місяць тому +1

    I had a deck basically like this and I too took it apart because it was too strong.

  • @ernsthaft3331
    @ernsthaft3331 Місяць тому +2

    that looks disgusting.. I love it

  • @jtvanilla1776
    @jtvanilla1776 29 днів тому

    I've been trying to build a non-blue blink deck. I was building feather the redeemed sort of like this, but this is way stronger. I already own most of those cards, so maybe I'll build this

    • @joedoe7572
      @joedoe7572 29 днів тому

      Feather Blink is a ton of fun

  • @PsycopathToasterly
    @PsycopathToasterly 29 днів тому

    i also disassembled one of my more powerful decks as it would also just keep winning
    it was dina, soul steeper aristocrats, and there was a multitude of ways to make tokens and aristocrat opponents down. if the board got wiped/ countered/ locked down/ etc, i could always pull a win from out my ass with a few recursions or tutors.
    it was fun the first couple of times, then winning just became kinda hollow feeling. then i didnt really enjoy always winning and stopped playing it for a while, building other decks.
    ive remade it into food with the LOTR hobbit set and finally settled on leaving it as squirrel/ food with bloomburrows release.
    ive semi retired the deck, as my new favorite deck to play now its Phelddagrif(moo deng) groug hug. Now with the awakening Enchantment to flood the board with as many Moo dengs as possible 🤣

  • @Novatures
    @Novatures Місяць тому

    Can you share the upgraded decklist?

  • @Mr_B-xo8et
    @Mr_B-xo8et Місяць тому +1

    I've got a much more not budget friendly version (it uses dual lands and some of the other non budget friendly cards you suggested), but a lot more focus using the white blink spells both single and full board versions, as both protection, a ETB re-enabler or finisher if you have enough etb pingers on board.. i've had a crazy start of turn 1 sol ring, turn 2 wood elves into ephemerate gets insane 8 mana for turn 3. For those interested also recommend Soul partition and wirewood symbiote to re-use rocco.

  • @supremecourt4131
    @supremecourt4131 Місяць тому

    Is there an expensive version of the deck? I would love to see a maxed out list

  • @drew-id
    @drew-id Місяць тому

    The last time I played Norin... I abused their Confusion of the Ranks to steal norin at an inopportune time ftw.... felt real good after getting bullied all gane.

  • @syxtel8080
    @syxtel8080 Місяць тому

    Wait you're into Magic?!! I've been following your Dota channel for years to just find out about this now?! xD

  • @alexleblanc6364
    @alexleblanc6364 14 днів тому

    No aura shards?

  • @tylma001
    @tylma001 29 днів тому

    By 10 minutes in, you'd already said enough to convince me to buy the deck lol

  • @kokioen
    @kokioen Місяць тому +3

    What a beautiful deck. It's like watching a symphony

  • @akumu2625
    @akumu2625 Місяць тому

    There is problem, what if, enemies "accidentally" mill it?

  • @quille9879
    @quille9879 29 днів тому

    I played norin sisters when I first started modern, until I couldn't anymore because it got powered out of the format :') good times

  • @monogreen
    @monogreen 14 днів тому

    I would also advise putting Cathars' Crusade in this deck. Way too much math.

  • @giorgoskyriacou8877
    @giorgoskyriacou8877 5 днів тому

    Go Baumi!!!

  • @hamidashoory5770
    @hamidashoory5770 Місяць тому +1

    love it 😍

  • @JohanesTarata
    @JohanesTarata 29 днів тому +1

    Fantastic deck idea! Keep up the great work

  • @mattmonster8402
    @mattmonster8402 Місяць тому

    This is a fun idea 😮

  • @hieracon475
    @hieracon475 Місяць тому

    great video

  • @KeganKirby
    @KeganKirby Місяць тому

    11 removal too much? You do you, but 10 has been my very baseline for awhile now, more often 15

  • @TheLucluchtloper
    @TheLucluchtloper Місяць тому +1

    I need this video to stay at low views. Cause this deck is just to good and too fun for the world to handle…
    To much power corrupts absolute

  • @Turn140
    @Turn140 26 днів тому

    Wait a minute. Didnt this voice use to make dota videos?

  • @screwtokaiba
    @screwtokaiba Місяць тому +1

    hey its me watching almost half an hour of a game i dont quite understand

    • @joedoe7572
      @joedoe7572 29 днів тому

      It's awesome, you should try it. Feel free to ping me with any questions!

  • @AUGOM0919
    @AUGOM0919 Місяць тому

    I still have my $100 Rocco locco deck.. I can share my decklist if you want to.. hehehe

  • @friendlybucket7268
    @friendlybucket7268 29 днів тому

    spielste net normal dota? kenne dein gesicht und stimme irgendwoher...

  • @GARENAmovies
    @GARENAmovies 28 днів тому

    wait a min, since when did baumi starter making MTG content ???

  • @littlefoxy4901
    @littlefoxy4901 2 дні тому

    Crazy how you have the same deck to show as someone else who uploaded a video 8 days prior to this?
    ua-cam.com/video/Ivf8Ny4Ht9M/v-deo.html

  • @Dewgma
    @Dewgma Місяць тому

    Upboat

  • @ubertuna1
    @ubertuna1 28 днів тому

    Naya Norin is a cool idea. Being mono red is a major restriction for building Norin