They they won't they never do you see if a male is accused even accused not even proven. Their life is completely destroyed. If it is proven that a girl did this falsely then you'd be lucky to get people to even look at them twice and say naughty naughty
How do 17 yr old can send them jail ? When even his parents kicked him out. Without any support. . OP got them all at the last. ALL THEIR life and relationships are ruined too !!
First mistake OP made was trusting the girl not to do something like that. As a man you have to operate like women are ready to throw out false accusations because it’s trendy with the metoo movement and believe all women nonsense.
They did it once and got it away when they had nothing... Now they hav everything ofc they thought they could get away doing this.. gud OP put them in their place !! And KARMA GOT THEM
Story 1: 15 years later. Why tf would u contact the victim of your fake allegations? "Making amends," my ass. Emily and the others don't deserve a good life. How pathetic does ur life have to be to attempt to ruin someone's life again? OP's parents are just as bad as Emily and her friends. W revenge.
They were trying to cover their asses because, one of 'em effed up and said something they weren't supposed to. But they compounded their bad choice by providing evidence of their criminality.
@victormontes7007 People downplay the effect of false allegations and how often it happens. There is a story I ran into a dude breaks up with a girl because she falsely accused someone and of course she attempted to lie about DV but he installed cameras without her knowledge and it saved him. But yeah even though the dude was equitted, he still had to switch school. Later on during college someone ran into a post of the accusations and the college crowed once again blamed him and the college kicked him out. He deleted himself. The girl reason for lying was to fit into the Me Too movement. She was sitting with several girls that shared some of the things they went thru and accused this guy that was nice quiet and harmless of attacking her. But he wasn't even in town during the accusations due to some school event or family event. When confronted by the cops she admitted to what happened but yet no one held her accountable and most people just thought there goes the cops blaming you the "VICTIM"! The only reason her fiance found out because her friend let it slip during a drunk get together and that's when he found out that the guy deleted himself after he looked him up. I know a guy that I was hit with a hammer and there were witnesses that he did nothing wrong but wrong ethnicity and cute girl off her medication and him young got him to relent to the DA wishes of no prosecution.
The story is most likely fake because the OP never sued, it was clear case of defamation of character which cost him financially with education/career opportunities lost and emotional distress from disownment and being made a social pariah.
Story 1 Wow. So it's bad for OP to ruin Emily's wicked adult life. But it's fine that she ruined OP's childhood. And now she's threatening him again for a crime that NEVER happened. The parents suck. Just because they didn't know does not excuse their hasty judgment and abandonment. Thank God they were stupid enough to send messages that OP can screenshot.
How is the op going to ruin a fake woman's life. This story is one of the fakest I've heard, literal incel propoganda. And no, it's not believable in the slightest, your just gullible.
@@Polemistis0416well we could if this doesn't happen in the United States of America, if it's something in the US absolutely nothing will be done to them ever. You see it was a girl who said that a guy actually did something to her and the current environment is believe all women. Even if you have evidence that they lied about you and ruined your life screw you, you happen to be male and that means that you're automatically infinitely guilty. Nothing will be done to her except maybe a little bit of a slap on the wrist either then that would be considered absolutely extreme take even slapper on the wrist or even say that she possibly could have been naughty in the tiniest bit. When a woman does this to a man the man is screwed and the woman will get off. Absolutely freaking scot-free
No it don't wrong you spend 18 year rise them feeding them and then you put in op background. Yah he that type and his kids should know that But op brother should 100 play rent if he doesn't leave soon because his brother has big mummy and daddy issues that he pushing on his brother and kids Op brother run op going to tax you to death aaaa Op is a ahole but he's not a full on one. Once he kick his kids out yah he a ahole but if he let the stay get get there money up to buy a house then no. He 8s being a guy teaching there kid, you don't owns this get your own home and leave you or give me rent. Mmy older brother play 100s to mum idk how much but he pay for a year rent after he got his job and penchen or something 😅😅😅 I don't see op as ahole but a man with lots of mummy and daddy issues and has 1900 logic
S2: Op need to go to therapy before he lose everyone in his live. Yeah, being independent is a good lesson, but basically telling your kids that once you turn 18 you're on your own can be a one way ticket to lonely retirement home death. His brother's gf cheated and op said he could have work it out and being immature for wanting some support from his family.
@@patsypersaud that's because OP IS Not the one WHO needs Support. His Brother IS going through Shit and If you can't let Family stay at your place for 2 weeks cause they have Had a more relaxed childhood than you did, then that IS telling.
‘Believe all women’ only means that we should take claims of harassment and assault seriously, and investigate them, instead of dismissing them and assuming the woman is making it all up, as has historically been the predominant response.
Last story. OP needs therapy. Obviously has some deep-seated insecurities about his brother, and has never confronted his parents about the disparity. OP is the AH, but he just needs therapy.
Story 1 op made those AHs reap what they sow and his ex parents who disowned him they know he's not going to see them again till they're on their deathbed smh they ruined their chances of being grandparents because of a lie. Emily and her harpy friends now suffered as op suffered, serve them right
Story 1: This is like the opening to a serial killer move where you root for the killer. Story 2: Honestly, I don't like anyone in this story. Everyone here is toxic.
Spot on. As I was listening, I was wondering how all these unalived people were able to reach out to op. Cause they sure af would not have been alive after that happy crap
Story 2: Everyone sucks! OP obviously has some deep resentment for his parents/brother, because of the opportunities his brother got that he never did and he should’ve sought out therapy a long time ago. The wife making an arbitrary decision without him and then expecting him to just suck it up is a pretty terrible thing for a spouse to do. That will also cause resentment and if OP has taught us anything, it’s that he loves himself some resentment. The brother going to his house is a trickier conversation. I would hope my brother would let me crash at his place for a bit until my cheating ex left the house, but I’m obviously closer to my brother, than OP is to his. 🤷♂️
@@MoistTowelette125 did you even listen to the story A shitty situation happened the brother left to hang out with family till the gf could leave . This is reasonable when you put into consideration she has helped raise the brother since he was a baby. He is literally the age of the kids she has.
@MoistTowelette125 the wife of at least 20 years making a decision to allow family in the house is weird after she picked him up out of a shit situation? What planet are you on.
@MoistTowelette125 everyone sucks. The only issue in the story is op. Giving his brother some of the worst advice. This would be like telling him walk into traffic.
@ Did you not listen to the story? The wife knows that the brothers aren’t close. To not include her husband in the decision to let his brother stay at their house, knowing they aren’t close, is a pretty messed up thing to do. She’s basically telling him that his opinion doesn’t matter and she knows what’s best. Is she his wife or his mother? I’m not saying is a “divorceable offense”, but it’s a good way to build resentment.
I mean you can’t blame op. But I think op is like most parents, learn to adult. He doesn’t know how not to be the way he is, but as long as he helps his kids and give guidance then he’s ok
@@KarmaTube5 once they are 18 they're on their own unless they are in college for a career path he likely approves of. His parents screwed up, they were too young but they still screwed up as parents. He resents his brother for having it better. And instead of deciding to be a better parent he's strict and forcing independence. This will cause his children not to have faith in him or the possibility of him being there for them should life go sideways for them.
Story 2 has two major independent issues that need to be resolved. 1. OP hates his brother. The guy clearly has some hang ups he hasn’t gotten over, and is taking them out on his little brother. OP needs some therapy to deal with his resentment issues. 2. OP’s wife favors OP’s brother. She very clearly is babying him, treating him like a golden child. OP very obviously hates this kid, and his wife is *still* taking his side on everything. If she keeps putting her BIL over her husband she shouldn’t be surprised when OP finally decides he wants a wife who puts him first and leaves her
@ She’s not at fault for not hating OPs brother, she’s at fault for siding with him over her husband when he clearly doesn’t like the kid. He’s being irrational, sure, but she’s still ignoring his feelings to side with someone he doesn’t like
@@sorantohell5096 Well good riddance then. OP is the one being stupid, not his wife, and not his brother. Don't act like you'd be staying in the same house as your cheating girlfriend.
STORY 2: 20 years ago it was different situation ffs how bitter is OP. No wonder if his kids only earning talking to THEIR mom. OP needs therapy, getting jealous of his baby brother going on zoo with his small kids !!
S1: NTA. Emily is pathetic! I hope her husband fully finds out what happened. How in the world do these idiots think the best thing to do now is to spread more lies and rumors?!?!
S1: A prank? That’s an awfully weak motive for harming the life chances of a friend. And the parents kicking him out without any discussion? People willing to do something like that don’t all become decent humans later on. Hard to think that they were all good spouses. That and the dialogue sound like fiction to me.
yeah, i am having a hard time believing it, unless it's one of those really insane hyper religious small towns. If real then there is probably a lot more to the story, like the husband being very religious, and suspecting cheating, or uncovering other lies from when they were dating. Granted, 15 years ago was right when the schools were going full title 9, and him being a truck driver does add some realism.
ya not only do they just call it "a prank", but they never offer any other explanation for why they did it. a prank is not done totally straight-faced like this. not to mention that his parents kicked him out without his input. i don't think you can emancipate somebody without their consent. did he even finish high school? the story doesn't touch on that either.
Kids have plotted, carried out, and covered up the motiveless murder of other kids singly or in groups many times. I'm not saying it's real, necessarily, but I'm saying the story isn't unbelievable because we never learn Alex and Emily's motive. Honestly, the motive was probably some incredibly minor thing, like Alex liked Emily who once commented that she thought OP was cute. Psychopaths and other entirely self-concerned types exist, after all, any just cuz they called it a prank doesn't mean it was anything like a prank, just that the perpetrators thought calling it a prank could somehow, somewhat push OP into feeling like he had to forgive them.
@@ibnkhaldoun4319 Parents kicking kids out, yes it still happens. Knew two in HS, and one just ten years ago in our church. Was staying with a church member. Teenagers don't think as rationally as adults (usually). I think they wanted to 'get him in trouble' not aware at how things would snowball. By the time things got out of control no one wanted to step forward because it would mean they get in trouble which they didn't want.
Story 2: Jeez, i hope nothing life changing happens in OP's life because he will most likely not have any support from anyone. He's taking his resentment out on the wrong people it's your parents who F'd up your childhood.
My thoughts exactly. Bro hates his brother for getting everything he couldn't. Made no mention of his brother being entitled or acting like a typical golden child. He mentioned how everyone else needs to grow up. Meanwhile he's stuck in the mentality of an 8 year old. Hating his brother solely because his parents gave him more.
Story 2: it was unfortunate that the OP did not get the opportunities that the brother had mainly because of financial reasons. His parents were just 16 when they had him. OP wanted his brother to struggle too as much as he did.
Story 2 - With as far as I’ve listened, I’m like yeah your parents were emotionally neglectful. - Currently OP’s major redeeming quality is his kind hearted wife. - The juxtaposition I do find cute though. - Feel like he has to have some soul and a warm heart judging by his choice of partner. - Really hoping the story ends on a positive note.
Story 2: I don't hate my brother but here's an itemized spreadsheet on all of the reasons why I "dislike" him. Sure sounds like OP hates his brother and is jealous he got opportunities OP didn't. Now he's taking that hatred out on everyone around him, punishing them for something that they weren't involved in or had any control over. OP's going to wake up one day still angry but alone.
I honestly can’t believe the nerve of these women. It was bad enough that they decided to keep quiet about how the sexual assault allegations against OP was a “prank” and pretty much forced him to face the consequences of actions that he didn’t commit but also now they threatened to use those same allegations to extort him because their lives have gone sideways and they didn’t like that he refused to help them after what they did to him. Just what kind of messed up bullshit is that? Did they really think that if they contacted OP he would just laugh it off, say that it was all in the past and then readily agree to help them without holding any accountability on them for their actions? Because if that’s how they think the world works then they need to take off the rose colored glasses and see exactly how reality works.
S2: Op is NTA. His brother was spoiled whereas Op had it rough and had to make due. I wonder if the parents ever helped Op after they became financial stable or just told Op to suck it up? They probably resented Op and may have considered him the reason why they suffered while Op was just a kid and no fault of his own being born to parents so young. His wife raised Op's brother alongside his children that says alot about his parents. They allowed their son's wife to raise their son alongside Op's kids. Why didn't they raise him themselves? Op's younger brother more than likely their do over kid and represented the "good" times whereas Op represented the times they had to suffered financially. Op works hard for his family and sees
OP in second story is a bitter man and regarding some things, I can't agree with him. But his wife deciding on her own regarding his brother's stay is a red flag in the relationship. Neither of them should make that type of decision alone, especially since he doesn't like his brother very much.
Im not even sure how it is a question. I would expect my wife to welcome my brother into the house for me. This guy is massively unreasonable, basically he is the same age as his kids and spent childhood being around his kids. How is this weird.
@@cw3598it's subjective. OP's wife is married to him, and he is her other half, not the brother. She's supposed to make choices with his emotions in check, not always throwing the OP's feelings to the floor because of HER rules.
@MrDeadYeti she has known the brother his entire life and has always treated him as family. This isn't out of the blue. Op hates his parents and takes it out on his brother.
The story with the guy complaining about his brother just sounds like a bunch of pent up resentment. He’s definitely the kind of guy that will say “I had to suffer, so you have to suffer”. His brother might have been spoiled but that was all on his parents. Instead of being a bigger person, he wants to hold onto his childhood grudge no matter who it affects. His children should be concerned, because he’s likely to toss them out on the streets next.
Leave that 'being a bigger person' to yourself, though I doubt that you ever are. OP might be overplaying this thing with his brother, but he has no obligation to support him. It's not that OP's vrother in some dire situation
2nd story: OP is one of those husbands who "doesn't want to be controlling" and "doesn't want to seem insecure." They're literally having an affair and his post is about "growing up." 🤦🤦🤦 Don't jump into another relationship, my guy! You are not emotionally set for a relationship!
does anyone else feel disgusting whenever they watch these videos? i don't want to get outraged over false accusations. i don't want to be angry over entitled family members. i don't want to feel cathartic over cheaters getting what they deserve.
@cj_.44._cf not every school had good security back then. Not to mention you're assuming this story was written this year. I've seen Sceret Voices post some stories this year that were written 5-6 years ago. Couldn't find this post after a quick Google search so can't confirm the exact date. But the potential is there.
ST2 Let's be real, OP complains about his brother being spoiled growing up but if they were swapped, op would have enjoyed the money being spent on him just like his brother had access to. He's taking it out on the wrong person, to not comfort his brother after he found out his girlfriend cheated on him but to basically condone her cheating by saying her wants for marriage and a baby are justified is just scummy. OP better not run to reddit to complain when stuff happens that puts op in need of help from his brother and his brother turns around and acts the exact same way op acted towards his brother, because when that happens OP better suck it up and deal with it himself instead of running to family.
Why do people be doing this. Then people wonder why they just close off to people. This is why we need a close circle and maintain distance from trouble makers.
OP in story 2 is so resentful and petty. As parents, we should want better for our kids and younger family members. He's so caught up in what he didn't have, he's gonna end up driving his kids away....
You are projecting! You don't know that. This has nothing to do with "his kids". He didn't want his brother at his house. Simple! The wife should have understood that and accepted it. She is the b of the story.
Oh I know people like him. "My house, my rules" types. Don't get me wrong, healthy boundaries are essential, but he is straight up irrational. Like what is a few more days to get his head on straight? This family sounds transactional. His kids are gonna get kicked out if they dont live up to his stupid standards, even if they are working. He said so himself, kids out at 18 unless they are in college, in which case 23. You graduate at 25. In a few years, we are gonna see a post "my family hates me and I don't know why." You don't stop being a parent once your kids turn 18. You are a parent for life.
Is there a moment in this where it said why they did it in the first place. Because I’m lost I don’t see anywhere where they specifically why Emeliy did it specifically she did it to Op.
He was cut off during the chaos of the charade and was never given a real reason by the people that did it once they came trying to force forgiveness, so OP simply has zero clue. Separate from this, there was one woman in college who made a false SA allegation against another student which ruined his life and got him expelled from the university, and she dragged a mattress around college campuses as a form of performance art purely for attention, pretending to be a victim when she was the actual monster all along... you just can't tell what these types are after unless they tip their hand themselves.
2nd story i agree with op most of the things but you said but you blaming him for cheating girlfriend can just leave him and then get relationship if if she really wanted marriage or kids cheaters always blame but your brother is also out of line staying in your house without your permission if you get argument with her sometime in the future if you wanted stay with brother without his permission he wouldn't let you stay with him
S1: Really, they really think OP is going to be willing to forgive them and help after what they did? Then they were going to threaten OP AGAIN? The entire bunch of them are disgusting and really they should all be in jail
Story 2 OP sounds pretty jealous which I can’t blame though his attitude on the situation isn’t exactly healthy. I will say the wife definitely shouldn’t have invited him to stay over during that time, and she’s AH in this situation. People like her are the worst kinds of people you’ll meet in life, as they’ll usually sell out their children in the vain of “being kind”, which I’m going to set the record straight that’s not being kind that’s being a coward and they’ll want their children to become that way which only sets themselves up to be taken advantage of. I’d be considering that for ground of divorce as that kind of attitude is going to hurt possibly one of OP’s kids in the future.
The wife has a better realationship with the BIL than the OP does. Sounds like she had a hand in raising him too, so her wanting to help him isn't abnormal or something she is doing for the sake of being kind. The OP is the weird one in this scenario. His heart is so closed off due to resentment for his brother that he isn't willing to help him out when he's obviously in a rough place. He's going to end up bitter and alone if he keeps up his attitude.
@@Spiderfan85 don't you get that OP apparently is more bitter because his own wife acted in the same manner as his parents used to and may be still do. She put his brother's wishes and needs above OP's. It's not that poor lad is shelterless and starving. He decided that he didn't want to stay with his GF and without even talking to OP made her bring him to crash at their place ignoring OP's feeling however unjustified the feelings might be. And OP's wife supported him not her husband. Would you be happy if your spouse decided to bring in a family member that you're not too happy to see? For OP it's sort of his childhood trauma repeating itself. However petty and unjustified his feelings might be it's not OK for his wife to ignore them. Doesn't help him
@Spiderfan85 OP is bitter because everyone takes care of his brother over him even his own wife. She is playing a dangerous game and OP will only get worse after this.
Wtf are you idiots going on about. This has nothing to do with boundaries. Op's hate is unnatural. His brother was able to be in band? This is what you do when someone cheats you leave the situation so you can figure out how to move on. How would he know he couldn't rely on his brother for help. He is 20 ops kids are 17. This is absolutely insane that you think this is a boundary. He spent his childhood hanging out with his brother.
Story 2: OP, I know you said you didn't get the childhood where you were given all the perks your brother had and you were forced to be an adult too young because of your parents. If you do the same to your children, they will feel the same as you did. Responsibility is important, but maybe soften your expectations. You don't want your grandkids to be living your childhood? Don't make their future parents (your kids) live it. You can be the change that makes a happier, more resilient family or you can be Scrooge.
Story 2: Wow. OP and his wife sound awful. OP, for his distain and jealousy towards his brother. Yes, I understand that it must have felt awful to be treated differently from your sibling(s) however, this animosity should have been directed at the parents. You are meant to rely on family in your time of need BECAUSE they are family. OP needs to speak to a professional to resolve this. The wife needs to acknowledge that OP does have a point. She failed to communicate what was going on with OP's family and opened their home for an extended amount of time without OP's input. That is not right. Things like that need to be discussed. Just because they are family doesnt give them an invitation to disturb your peace.
2nd story wives y do u get involved wit ppl other ppl family wen they dont fw them. Like seriously. Op betta talk or she gonna keep over his boundaries buhh ayye tht his life
OP 2 is a giant baby. His wife was there the brother's entire life and they were close that whole time. He's functionally her sibling too (to say nothing of law), or at least a nephew. Of _course_ she'd drive two hours for him. The people insisting on an affair here are completely ignoring that context.
@@patsypersaudDude put himself in that situation by taking his pain out on them instead of putting that energy towards his parents or something productive.
anyone else would have twisted the knight in the parent's heart by adding to the end of the letter something like. "I have already changed both my family and birth name. it's on my wedding and daughters' birth certificate both of which I will make sure you never meet.
The last story: OP is delusional: "my wife i too soft and cares too much about everyone". Apparently, about everyone, but OP 😂😂😂 Her actions are a blatant disregard and disrespect of OP's boundaries, feelings and wishes. And it doesn't matter if OP is wrong in his feelings toward his brother
… yeah no lmao. OP’s wife is a decent person and helped someone that needed some help. They made every effort to try to reach OP, and he didn’t pick up. OP is an immature baby that’s pissy he didn’t have the perfect childhood. His brother did absolutely nothing wrong. He’ll get over it.
Story 1 was wild. I'm honestly a bit upset that op didn't pursue the matter further. He can even take them to court due to them handing out the evidences so easily, but I admit not pursuing the matter further is better for his mental health since court matters are a headache, and it seems the money conpensation isn't a good enough incentive for him. Still, he should've gotten a restraining order since people who have nothing left to lose are dangerous, and I'm worried they'd retaliate if they find op.
It's really disheartening to see how some people think it's okay to prank others at the expense of their reputation. No one deserves to be unfairly labeled or hurt, especially when the consequences are so serious, like being suspended from school. The fact that the girl stayed silent when the school took action shows a lack of accountability and empathy. It's important to remember that pranks should never harm someone else's well-being or future. We should always support one another and speak up when things go wrong, not stay silent
The brother is 20. OP's kids are teenagers. They can't be his brother's. OP's wife has been treating her brother-in-law as just another teenage member of her family.
The big question: WHY?...... pranks are meant to be playful, not hurtful. The fact they were willing to continue to spread lies and further ruin his life, tells me they planned everything from the start. Op was probably a "disposable friend", someone you can use and pretend to like, then ditched when you no longer want them.
Story 2: OPs parents didn't raise him. He raised himself, and his wife raised his brother. OPs is extremely resentful and doesn't deny it, but he is an extremely damaged human being. He and his wife cannot see eye to eye because they have a completely different understanding of what family is.
S2, huuuuuuuuge Red Flag. Get a male divorce lawyer. Separate your finances, get all important documents and mementoes out of the house. Get off all joint Credit Cards. cancel any joint liabilities. You WILL be divorcing soon.
Story 2: OP needs some serious therapy. The way that he treats his brother is ridiculous and unfair. It's not his fault that he didn't get to have the experiences his brother got, but his brother isn't at fault for that, either. I agree that his wife should've talked to him about the situation, but there's nothing wrong with her picking up his brother, there's nothing wrong with her wanting to help him. Really, there's nothing wrong with her being kind toward other people and wanting to help whenever possible. OP makes it out to be such a flaw and weakness of character because he doesn't want others to get what he didn't: help. He'd rather everyone else go through what he did, even his own children, because he didn't get to have that, and it's not fair for others to get it. Therapy, man, but clearly he's not even close to acknowledging the flaws in his mindset.
Nothing wrong, except her husband DID NOT want his brother there!! I fail to see a problem with that. If she knew it in advance and still brought the brother there, that makes her the bit*h. I don't understand the hate you are directing toward OP. I felt that way about my sister, and if anyone had brought her to my house to live for even 1 day, there would be HELL and more HELL to pay. OP had every right to not want his brother there. That breech should not have happened.
Could've used the evidence to sue them. For one he can gain from it, like education he wanted and therapy. For two it could ruin those people more. I don't think divorce, disowned, and losing jobs outweights whatever OP1 went through.
2nd story: I feel for OP; I'm sure it's very hard being bitter, resentful and jealous to the point of actively planning to alienate everyone around you. I'm certain it will get better after the divorce and kids going NC, though.
I think I remember the second story. His parents treated his brother way better than he himself so I understand his anger. His wife has no right to invite whoever she feels like. What woman thinks she has the right to infiltrate? Ridiculous.
@@Sg190th wtf no, his brother grew up hanging out with his kids. How is this even a question of the wife or brother being wrong. His wife literally helped raise the brother.
@@cw3598 Yeah that's true. It doesn't change that she should make final decisions. I think both should find middle ground. I can understand why he wants his brother to learn how to be independent like OP himself did but he shouldn't be too harsh. If anything, he should just yell at his parents or something.
Story 2: The only thing I disagree with is the not helping after high school and as an adult type thing. My father Still insists and Will Not let me pay for my own phone bill because he doesn't want to lose contact with me. He's in Southern Nevada and I'm in Washington State. I'm the youngest of 7 and I get it and the overprotectiveness will not fade with some people. My dad Made me learn independence but the phone thing makes my 28 y/o ass feel spoiled 😂 😂 😂
@@Intrepid_A Enter the white knight in muddy armor. Tell me, what interesting thing did you find on my comment history? I'm curious. Oh, actually, I'm doubtful you even understand how to check someone's comment history on YT. But hey, you are dense enough to not understand that YT doesn't count like before your comment has hit the 1 min mark, unless they are yours, so this will be a fun convo :)
Story 1 I wish they all got jail time. They destroyed this innocent man and were planning on doing it again.
They they won't they never do you see if a male is accused even accused not even proven. Their life is completely destroyed. If it is proven that a girl did this falsely then you'd be lucky to get people to even look at them twice and say naughty naughty
How do 17 yr old can send them jail ? When even his parents kicked him out. Without any support.
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OP got them all at the last. ALL THEIR life and relationships are ruined too !!
He should have tried to sue them. I don't know whether he'd have got anywhere with that but it was worth a try.
@philtomkinson7956 it wouldn't the system is stacked against any male who is accused of anything naughty. Especially if it was false
Wasn't it bad enough they did thjis to him once, NOW they're doing it AGAIN because he refuses to forgive them
First mistake OP made was trusting the girl not to do something like that. As a man you have to operate like women are ready to throw out false accusations because it’s trendy with the metoo movement and believe all women nonsense.
Proof they were never really apologetic, just guilty. But not so guilty not to pull it again for not getting their way.
People don't change. They're evil it's in their blood. Yeah, run hide, deny it all they want, but that bad always wins....
They did it once and got it away when they had nothing... Now they hav everything ofc they thought they could get away doing this.. gud OP put them in their place !!
And KARMA GOT THEM
Story 1: 15 years later. Why tf would u contact the victim of your fake allegations? "Making amends," my ass. Emily and the others don't deserve a good life. How pathetic does ur life have to be to attempt to ruin someone's life again? OP's parents are just as bad as Emily and her friends. W revenge.
Cause they're stupid.
@@nick-brothwood got to be
Just because they think he should forgive the tw@t who ruined his life??
@@66DoodleGal I'm more pissed off by the parents
They were trying to cover their asses because, one of 'em effed up and said something they weren't supposed to. But they compounded their bad choice by providing evidence of their criminality.
Lawyers and sue them all up. The girls, the family, and the college.
the familys of all the staff the pets of families
@victormontes7007 People downplay the effect of false allegations and how often it happens. There is a story I ran into a dude breaks up with a girl because she falsely accused someone and of course she attempted to lie about DV but he installed cameras without her knowledge and it saved him. But yeah even though the dude was equitted, he still had to switch school. Later on during college someone ran into a post of the accusations and the college crowed once again blamed him and the college kicked him out. He deleted himself. The girl reason for lying was to fit into the Me Too movement. She was sitting with several girls that shared some of the things they went thru and accused this guy that was nice quiet and harmless of attacking her. But he wasn't even in town during the accusations due to some school event or family event. When confronted by the cops she admitted to what happened but yet no one held her accountable and most people just thought there goes the cops blaming you the "VICTIM"! The only reason her fiance found out because her friend let it slip during a drunk get together and that's when he found out that the guy deleted himself after he looked him up. I know a guy that I was hit with a hammer and there were witnesses that he did nothing wrong but wrong ethnicity and cute girl off her medication and him young got him to relent to the DA wishes of no prosecution.
@@victormontes7007whoa now....not the pets. Maybe that one sketchy goldfish
they were in high school, not college. but I agree. sue everyone involved
The story is most likely fake because the OP never sued, it was clear case of defamation of character which cost him financially with education/career opportunities lost and emotional distress from disownment and being made a social pariah.
Story 1
Wow. So it's bad for OP to ruin Emily's wicked adult life. But it's fine that she ruined OP's childhood. And now she's threatening him again for a crime that NEVER happened.
The parents suck. Just because they didn't know does not excuse their hasty judgment and abandonment.
Thank God they were stupid enough to send messages that OP can screenshot.
They were all so full of themselves to think that this couldn’t back fire huh? XD
@ShadowLady247 Yep. Now we can laugh at their misery.
How is the op going to ruin a fake woman's life. This story is one of the fakest I've heard, literal incel propoganda. And no, it's not believable in the slightest, your just gullible.
@@Polemistis0416well we could if this doesn't happen in the United States of America, if it's something in the US absolutely nothing will be done to them ever. You see it was a girl who said that a guy actually did something to her and the current environment is believe all women. Even if you have evidence that they lied about you and ruined your life screw you, you happen to be male and that means that you're automatically infinitely guilty. Nothing will be done to her except maybe a little bit of a slap on the wrist either then that would be considered absolutely extreme take even slapper on the wrist or even say that she possibly could have been naughty in the tiniest bit. When a woman does this to a man the man is screwed and the woman will get off. Absolutely freaking scot-free
Op got away with that... impressive. #HMT was the better choice.
Once the girl texted him saying they could ruin him all over again, my mind went, “JACKPOT! That's a confession! Call a lawyer!!”
OP from Story 2 is going to wonder why his kids only talk to their mother once they've been kicked out.
OP from story 2 is wrong about his kids but not his brother. Making your own kids pay rent and not help them through college is wrong.
@@EliteGamingZone-7274I agree, just bc he had it rough he wants his kids to have it rough too? Shitty dad
@@EliteGamingZone-7274 Yeah that I can agree with.
No it don't wrong you spend 18 year rise them feeding them and then you put in op background. Yah he that type and his kids should know that
But op brother should 100 play rent if he doesn't leave soon because his brother has big mummy and daddy issues that he pushing on his brother and kids
Op brother run op going to tax you to death aaaa
Op is a ahole but he's not a full on one. Once he kick his kids out yah he a ahole but if he let the stay get get there money up to buy a house then no. He 8s being a guy teaching there kid, you don't owns this get your own home and leave you or give me rent.
Mmy older brother play 100s to mum idk how much but he pay for a year rent after he got his job and penchen or something 😅😅😅
I don't see op as ahole but a man with lots of mummy and daddy issues and has 1900 logic
Making his kids pay for the actions of his mother and golden child brother is wrong.
S2: Op need to go to therapy before he lose everyone in his live. Yeah, being independent is a good lesson, but basically telling your kids that once you turn 18 you're on your own can be a one way ticket to lonely retirement home death. His brother's gf cheated and op said he could have work it out and being immature for wanting some support from his family.
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Yeah. OP IS dripping with jelousy and He IS actually behaving immature
Yeah not a fan of, basically everything around the core issue of unilateral decisions and actions.
It sounds like OP's family doesn't give him any support
@@patsypersaud that's because OP IS Not the one WHO needs Support. His Brother IS going through Shit and If you can't let Family stay at your place for 2 weeks cause they have Had a more relaxed childhood than you did, then that IS telling.
story 2 op's kids are going to hate him eventually and he is projecting his past onto his kids, he needs therapy.
His wife is outta line but he is definitely an ass as well
he going wonder why he divorce and none of his family will speak to him more than a few minutes at a time.
@TIMB1044 exactly
First story the guy got proof that they lied on that you should have sued their asses taking for everything they got
OP 1 missed the school board to get the principal fired.
op was 17 no one wouldn't even hear him out
It was 15 years ago. Nobody who worked there probably still works there...
That principal is probably retired by now.
A prime example of why “believe all women” is dangerous
‘Believe all women’ only means that we should take claims of harassment and assault seriously, and investigate them, instead of dismissing them and assuming the woman is making it all up, as has historically been the predominant response.
1st story. He is owed restitution and they need to be in prison.
Story 1: I'm so happy you're living your best life while they're living their worst new lives 😂
It's an obviously fake story, how are you falling for this?
@ToiletBread1651 Do you have to believe everything is fake? False accusations can ruin a person's life for a long time
@@ToiletBread1651 a lot of you charlatans scream fake to literally every story.
@@ToiletBread1651 Where's your evidence it's fake, how are you falling for the it's fake train?
@@ToiletBread1651who gives a f*ck if it's fake it's still an interesting story to listen to
OP needs to sue all of them for defamation
Last story. OP needs therapy. Obviously has some deep-seated insecurities about his brother, and has never confronted his parents about the disparity. OP is the AH, but he just needs therapy.
Story 1 op made those AHs reap what they sow and his ex parents who disowned him they know he's not going to see them again till they're on their deathbed smh they ruined their chances of being grandparents because of a lie. Emily and her harpy friends now suffered as op suffered, serve them right
Story 1: This is like the opening to a serial killer move where you root for the killer.
Story 2: Honestly, I don't like anyone in this story. Everyone here is toxic.
How is the brother toxic?
Spot on. As I was listening, I was wondering how all these unalived people were able to reach out to op. Cause they sure af would not have been alive after that happy crap
How is OPS brother and kids toxic?
@@primesonic4459one is a mooch and the other is a spineless hypocrite who can’t stand up to his wife
How is he a moich. He literally spent 2 nights away from his house.
RIP OP parents, imagine throwing away their son for false accusations, and for 15 years ? No contact. Men !!!
Story 2: Everyone sucks! OP obviously has some deep resentment for his parents/brother, because of the opportunities his brother got that he never did and he should’ve sought out therapy a long time ago. The wife making an arbitrary decision without him and then expecting him to just suck it up is a pretty terrible thing for a spouse to do. That will also cause resentment and if OP has taught us anything, it’s that he loves himself some resentment. The brother going to his house is a trickier conversation. I would hope my brother would let me crash at his place for a bit until my cheating ex left the house, but I’m obviously closer to my brother, than OP is to his. 🤷♂️
@@MoistTowelette125 did you even listen to the story
A shitty situation happened the brother left to hang out with family till the gf could leave . This is reasonable when you put into consideration she has helped raise the brother since he was a baby. He is literally the age of the kids she has.
@ What part of my comment are you disagreeing with? 🤷♂️🤔
@MoistTowelette125 the wife of at least 20 years making a decision to allow family in the house is weird after she picked him up out of a shit situation? What planet are you on.
@MoistTowelette125 everyone sucks. The only issue in the story is op. Giving his brother some of the worst advice. This would be like telling him walk into traffic.
@ Did you not listen to the story? The wife knows that the brothers aren’t close. To not include her husband in the decision to let his brother stay at their house, knowing they aren’t close, is a pretty messed up thing to do. She’s basically telling him that his opinion doesn’t matter and she knows what’s best. Is she his wife or his mother? I’m not saying is a “divorceable offense”, but it’s a good way to build resentment.
S2 dudes gonna wonder why his kids left him in a retirement home and never visit
I don't see how he would be given how independent and all that he is. Might resent it for being a handout from his kids.
I mean you can’t blame op. But I think op is like most parents, learn to adult. He doesn’t know how not to be the way he is, but as long as he helps his kids and give guidance then he’s ok
@@KarmaTube5 once they are 18 they're on their own unless they are in college for a career path he likely approves of.
His parents screwed up, they were too young but they still screwed up as parents. He resents his brother for having it better. And instead of deciding to be a better parent he's strict and forcing independence. This will cause his children not to have faith in him or the possibility of him being there for them should life go sideways for them.
STORY 1: OP should have sued all of them for defamation and should be compensated for the damages they’ve caused.
Story 2 has two major independent issues that need to be resolved.
1. OP hates his brother. The guy clearly has some hang ups he hasn’t gotten over, and is taking them out on his little brother. OP needs some therapy to deal with his resentment issues.
2. OP’s wife favors OP’s brother. She very clearly is babying him, treating him like a golden child. OP very obviously hates this kid, and his wife is *still* taking his side on everything. If she keeps putting her BIL over her husband she shouldn’t be surprised when OP finally decides he wants a wife who puts him first and leaves her
wife isn't wrong for not hating on a child, while her man child husband is throwing a tamtrum about his brother stay with them.
@ She’s not at fault for not hating OPs brother, she’s at fault for siding with him over her husband when he clearly doesn’t like the kid. He’s being irrational, sure, but she’s still ignoring his feelings to side with someone he doesn’t like
@HeoBaby24 if she was smart she would find another accommodation. This is going to build resentment and OP will leave.
@@sorantohell5096 Well good riddance then. OP is the one being stupid, not his wife, and not his brother. Don't act like you'd be staying in the same house as your cheating girlfriend.
@FrostLordOni maybe you should be a therapist, that's a fair point
Story 1 geez that's aweful I'm glad he finally got the happiness he deserves but good grief
STORY 2:
20 years ago it was different situation ffs how bitter is OP. No wonder if his kids only earning talking to THEIR mom.
OP needs therapy, getting jealous of his baby brother going on zoo with his small kids !!
S1: NTA. Emily is pathetic! I hope her husband fully finds out what happened. How in the world do these idiots think the best thing to do now is to spread more lies and rumors?!?!
"we owe you an apology"
You owe me a LIFE.
"Your Souls are MINE".
S1: A prank? That’s an awfully weak motive for harming the life chances of a friend. And the parents kicking him out without any discussion? People willing to do something like that don’t all become decent humans later on. Hard to think that they were all good spouses.
That and the dialogue sound like fiction to me.
yeah, i am having a hard time believing it, unless it's one of those really insane hyper religious small towns. If real then there is probably a lot more to the story, like the husband being very religious, and suspecting cheating, or uncovering other lies from when they were dating.
Granted, 15 years ago was right when the schools were going full title 9, and him being a truck driver does add some realism.
ya not only do they just call it "a prank", but they never offer any other explanation for why they did it. a prank is not done totally straight-faced like this.
not to mention that his parents kicked him out without his input. i don't think you can emancipate somebody without their consent.
did he even finish high school? the story doesn't touch on that either.
Kids have plotted, carried out, and covered up the motiveless murder of other kids singly or in groups many times.
I'm not saying it's real, necessarily, but I'm saying the story isn't unbelievable because we never learn Alex and Emily's motive. Honestly, the motive was probably some incredibly minor thing, like Alex liked Emily who once commented that she thought OP was cute.
Psychopaths and other entirely self-concerned types exist, after all, any just cuz they called it a prank doesn't mean it was anything like a prank, just that the perpetrators thought calling it a prank could somehow, somewhat push OP into feeling like he had to forgive them.
@@ibnkhaldoun4319 Parents kicking kids out, yes it still happens. Knew two in HS, and one just ten years ago in our church. Was staying with a church member.
Teenagers don't think as rationally as adults (usually). I think they wanted to 'get him in trouble' not aware at how things would snowball. By the time things got out of control no one wanted to step forward because it would mean they get in trouble which they didn't want.
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Story 2: Jeez, i hope nothing life changing happens in OP's life because he will most likely not have any support from anyone. He's taking his resentment out on the wrong people it's your parents who F'd up your childhood.
My thoughts exactly. Bro hates his brother for getting everything he couldn't. Made no mention of his brother being entitled or acting like a typical golden child.
He mentioned how everyone else needs to grow up. Meanwhile he's stuck in the mentality of an 8 year old. Hating his brother solely because his parents gave him more.
His parents didn't even fuck up his childhood, they just didn't have the resources to give him what he wanted. It's no one's fault really.
@@hahaha1171 I'm sorry but that's just pure BS! Having financial struggles isn't an excuse to favor a child over the other.
There wasn't any favoring though?
@@Mery1119 There was no favoring.
Story 2: it was unfortunate that the OP did not get the opportunities that the brother had mainly because of financial reasons. His parents were just 16 when they had him. OP wanted his brother to struggle too as much as he did.
Story 2
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With as far as I’ve listened, I’m like yeah your parents were emotionally neglectful.
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Currently OP’s major redeeming quality is his kind hearted wife.
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The juxtaposition I do find cute though.
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Feel like he has to have some soul and a warm heart judging by his choice of partner.
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Really hoping the story ends on a positive note.
It's just luck
Story 2: I don't hate my brother but here's an itemized spreadsheet on all of the reasons why I "dislike" him.
Sure sounds like OP hates his brother and is jealous he got opportunities OP didn't. Now he's taking that hatred out on everyone around him, punishing them for something that they weren't involved in or had any control over.
OP's going to wake up one day still angry but alone.
Story 2 - those kids will be going no contact with Dad.
I honestly can’t believe the nerve of these women. It was bad enough that they decided to keep quiet about how the sexual assault allegations against OP was a “prank” and pretty much forced him to face the consequences of actions that he didn’t commit but also now they threatened to use those same allegations to extort him because their lives have gone sideways and they didn’t like that he refused to help them after what they did to him. Just what kind of messed up bullshit is that? Did they really think that if they contacted OP he would just laugh it off, say that it was all in the past and then readily agree to help them without holding any accountability on them for their actions? Because if that’s how they think the world works then they need to take off the rose colored glasses and see exactly how reality works.
Now that you have a documented admittance of guilt, sue them for damages.
Story 2's OP is just bitter due to past experiences with his parents
I was about to say if they want to make amends they can start by repaying OP all the money he would have made in his original life plan
Story 2 …he needs therapy but also needs a divorce, woman keeps punching his boundaries for feeling mom to everyone, that kind of person is dreadful
It's evil to play the victim while victimising someone else.
There's a certain colonial ethno state in the Middle East that does that on a daily basis.
With friends like that, id pay them back. Harshly.
S2: Op is NTA. His brother was spoiled whereas Op had it rough and had to make due. I wonder if the parents ever helped Op after they became financial stable or just told Op to suck it up? They probably resented Op and may have considered him the reason why they suffered while Op was just a kid and no fault of his own being born to parents so young.
His wife raised Op's brother alongside his children that says alot about his parents. They allowed their son's wife to raise their son alongside Op's kids. Why didn't they raise him themselves?
Op's younger brother more than likely their do over kid and represented the "good" times whereas Op represented the times they had to suffered financially.
Op works hard for his family and sees
OP in second story is a bitter man and regarding some things, I can't agree with him. But his wife deciding on her own regarding his brother's stay is a red flag in the relationship. Neither of them should make that type of decision alone, especially since he doesn't like his brother very much.
Im not even sure how it is a question. I would expect my wife to welcome my brother into the house for me. This guy is massively unreasonable, basically he is the same age as his kids and spent childhood being around his kids. How is this weird.
@@cw3598it's subjective. OP's wife is married to him, and he is her other half, not the brother. She's supposed to make choices with his emotions in check, not always throwing the OP's feelings to the floor because of HER rules.
@MrDeadYeti she has known the brother his entire life and has always treated him as family. This isn't out of the blue. Op hates his parents and takes it out on his brother.
@@cw3598 He may be unreasonable, but it is his house! If she knew his feelings, she should have never done it. That would be grounds for a divorce!
@@MrDeadYeti yeah, he does deserve to be alone. It is her house as well.
The story with the guy complaining about his brother just sounds like a bunch of pent up resentment. He’s definitely the kind of guy that will say “I had to suffer, so you have to suffer”. His brother might have been spoiled but that was all on his parents. Instead of being a bigger person, he wants to hold onto his childhood grudge no matter who it affects. His children should be concerned, because he’s likely to toss them out on the streets next.
Leave that 'being a bigger person' to yourself, though I doubt that you ever are. OP might be overplaying this thing with his brother, but he has no obligation to support him. It's not that OP's vrother in some dire situation
S2 OP calling his brother immature like he's not perpetually mired in childhood jealousy and resentment issues.
Story 2: OP is severely immature.
2nd story: OP is one of those husbands who "doesn't want to be controlling" and "doesn't want to seem insecure." They're literally having an affair and his post is about "growing up." 🤦🤦🤦 Don't jump into another relationship, my guy! You are not emotionally set for a relationship!
does anyone else feel disgusting whenever they watch these videos?
i don't want to get outraged over false accusations.
i don't want to be angry over entitled family members.
i don't want to feel cathartic over cheaters getting what they deserve.
You should feel all of these things, people not caring is why these things are so prevalent in society!
I’m confused why buddy in story 1 needed to say shit. Literally just show everyone the note and tell them to check the security cameras.
It was 15 years ago the world was not as online as it is now. You presume much in believing that there where security cameras.
@ 15 years ago from this current moment is 2009, schools started having security cameras in the early 2000’s.
@cj_.44._cf not every school had good security back then. Not to mention you're assuming this story was written this year. I've seen Sceret Voices post some stories this year that were written 5-6 years ago. Couldn't find this post after a quick Google search so can't confirm the exact date. But the potential is there.
You are expecting a, at the time, 17 year old to be able to think clearly enough to think of something like that.
@@paintedsmile5282and the school could think of it?
ST2
Let's be real, OP complains about his brother being spoiled growing up but if they were swapped, op would have enjoyed the money being spent on him just like his brother had access to.
He's taking it out on the wrong person, to not comfort his brother after he found out his girlfriend cheated on him but to basically condone her cheating by saying her wants for marriage and a baby are justified is just scummy.
OP better not run to reddit to complain when stuff happens that puts op in need of help from his brother and his brother turns around and acts the exact same way op acted towards his brother, because when that happens OP better suck it up and deal with it himself instead of running to family.
Story 2 😅 NTA you already know it's a making of cheating progress or it is already begone don't deny what is reality is
Why do people be doing this. Then people wonder why they just close off to people. This is why we need a close circle and maintain distance from trouble makers.
OP in story 2 is so resentful and petty. As parents, we should want better for our kids and younger family members. He's so caught up in what he didn't have, he's gonna end up driving his kids away....
Story 2: OP is gonna end up in a nursing home wondering why his kids don't see him.
You are projecting! You don't know that. This has nothing to do with "his kids". He didn't want his brother at his house. Simple! The wife should have understood that and accepted it. She is the b of the story.
Oh I know people like him. "My house, my rules" types. Don't get me wrong, healthy boundaries are essential, but he is straight up irrational. Like what is a few more days to get his head on straight? This family sounds transactional. His kids are gonna get kicked out if they dont live up to his stupid standards, even if they are working. He said so himself, kids out at 18 unless they are in college, in which case 23. You graduate at 25. In a few years, we are gonna see a post "my family hates me and I don't know why." You don't stop being a parent once your kids turn 18. You are a parent for life.
Is there a moment in this where it said why they did it in the first place. Because I’m lost I don’t see anywhere where they specifically why Emeliy did it specifically she did it to Op.
No
He was cut off during the chaos of the charade and was never given a real reason by the people that did it once they came trying to force forgiveness, so OP simply has zero clue. Separate from this, there was one woman in college who made a false SA allegation against another student which ruined his life and got him expelled from the university, and she dragged a mattress around college campuses as a form of performance art purely for attention, pretending to be a victim when she was the actual monster all along... you just can't tell what these types are after unless they tip their hand themselves.
@@clicksclacksFalse victimhood is currency to many, it's often that simple
2nd story i agree with op most of the things but you said but you blaming him for cheating girlfriend can just leave him and then get relationship if if she really wanted marriage or kids cheaters always blame but your brother is also out of line staying in your house without your permission if you get argument with her sometime in the future if you wanted stay with brother without his permission he wouldn't let you stay with him
Wow, story 2, they are both awful, they deserve each other, save some poor sod from having to deal with their BS
S1: Really, they really think OP is going to be willing to forgive them and help after what they did? Then they were going to threaten OP AGAIN? The entire bunch of them are disgusting and really they should all be in jail
Story 2 OP sounds pretty jealous which I can’t blame though his attitude on the situation isn’t exactly healthy. I will say the wife definitely shouldn’t have invited him to stay over during that time, and she’s AH in this situation. People like her are the worst kinds of people you’ll meet in life, as they’ll usually sell out their children in the vain of “being kind”, which I’m going to set the record straight that’s not being kind that’s being a coward and they’ll want their children to become that way which only sets themselves up to be taken advantage of. I’d be considering that for ground of divorce as that kind of attitude is going to hurt possibly one of OP’s kids in the future.
The wife has a better realationship with the BIL than the OP does. Sounds like she had a hand in raising him too, so her wanting to help him isn't abnormal or something she is doing for the sake of being kind. The OP is the weird one in this scenario. His heart is so closed off due to resentment for his brother that he isn't willing to help him out when he's obviously in a rough place. He's going to end up bitter and alone if he keeps up his attitude.
What an absolutely terrible take.
@@Spiderfan85 don't you get that OP apparently is more bitter because his own wife acted in the same manner as his parents used to and may be still do. She put his brother's wishes and needs above OP's. It's not that poor lad is shelterless and starving. He decided that he didn't want to stay with his GF and without even talking to OP made her bring him to crash at their place ignoring OP's feeling however unjustified the feelings might be. And OP's wife supported him not her husband. Would you be happy if your spouse decided to bring in a family member that you're not too happy to see? For OP it's sort of his childhood trauma repeating itself. However petty and unjustified his feelings might be it's not OK for his wife to ignore them. Doesn't help him
@Spiderfan85 OP is bitter because everyone takes care of his brother over him even his own wife. She is playing a dangerous game and OP will only get worse after this.
Wtf are you idiots going on about. This has nothing to do with boundaries. Op's hate is unnatural. His brother was able to be in band? This is what you do when someone cheats you leave the situation so you can figure out how to move on. How would he know he couldn't rely on his brother for help. He is 20 ops kids are 17. This is absolutely insane that you think this is a boundary. He spent his childhood hanging out with his brother.
Story 2: OP, I know you said you didn't get the childhood where you were given all the perks your brother had and you were forced to be an adult too young because of your parents. If you do the same to your children, they will feel the same as you did. Responsibility is important, but maybe soften your expectations. You don't want your grandkids to be living your childhood? Don't make their future parents (your kids) live it. You can be the change that makes a happier, more resilient family or you can be Scrooge.
S2: holy mother of spineless. The wife is cheating. All that and he still caves to his wife like a damn clown
Did you listen to the story. Literally has grown up knowing and hanging with her as his aunt.
Story 2: Wow. OP and his wife sound awful. OP, for his distain and jealousy towards his brother. Yes, I understand that it must have felt awful to be treated differently from your sibling(s) however, this animosity should have been directed at the parents. You are meant to rely on family in your time of need BECAUSE they are family. OP needs to speak to a professional to resolve this.
The wife needs to acknowledge that OP does have a point. She failed to communicate what was going on with OP's family and opened their home for an extended amount of time without OP's input. That is not right. Things like that need to be discussed. Just because they are family doesnt give them an invitation to disturb your peace.
2nd story wives y do u get involved wit ppl other ppl family wen they dont fw them. Like seriously. Op betta talk or she gonna keep over his boundaries buhh ayye tht his life
He grew up pretty much hanging out with ops kids. They hung out all the time. Op is absolutely trash and the wive should leave him.
He could have definitely sued for defamation, and receive a massive payout for emotional damages.
Op 1 Story hire a private investigator don't let those suspect accussers ruin your life again and sue them and get the police involved
OP 2 is a giant baby. His wife was there the brother's entire life and they were close that whole time. He's functionally her sibling too (to say nothing of law), or at least a nephew. Of _course_ she'd drive two hours for him.
The people insisting on an affair here are completely ignoring that context.
OP 2 doesn't get to have anything in life for himself, not even a wife and kids, that's pretty screwed up
@@patsypersaudDude put himself in that situation by taking his pain out on them instead of putting that energy towards his parents or something productive.
@@patsypersaud exactly. He's more bitter because of his wife quite assholey attitude
anyone else would have twisted the knight in the parent's heart by adding to the end of the letter something like. "I have already changed both my family and birth name. it's on my wedding and daughters' birth certificate both of which I will make sure you never meet.
The last story: OP is delusional: "my wife i too soft and cares too much about everyone". Apparently, about everyone, but OP 😂😂😂 Her actions are a blatant disregard and disrespect of OP's boundaries, feelings and wishes. And it doesn't matter if OP is wrong in his feelings toward his brother
… yeah no lmao. OP’s wife is a decent person and helped someone that needed some help. They made every effort to try to reach OP, and he didn’t pick up. OP is an immature baby that’s pissy he didn’t have the perfect childhood. His brother did absolutely nothing wrong. He’ll get over it.
Story 1 was wild. I'm honestly a bit upset that op didn't pursue the matter further. He can even take them to court due to them handing out the evidences so easily, but I admit not pursuing the matter further is better for his mental health since court matters are a headache, and it seems the money conpensation isn't a good enough incentive for him. Still, he should've gotten a restraining order since people who have nothing left to lose are dangerous, and I'm worried they'd retaliate if they find op.
Time to lawyer up.
S1: Holy hell, this dude is a Legend
It's really disheartening to see how some people think it's okay to prank others at the expense of their reputation. No one deserves to be unfairly labeled or hurt, especially when the consequences are so serious, like being suspended from school. The fact that the girl stayed silent when the school took action shows a lack of accountability and empathy. It's important to remember that pranks should never harm someone else's well-being or future. We should always support one another and speak up when things go wrong, not stay silent
Perfect story for creating new villan
Story 2. Those are his brother’s kids. That’s why the wife keeps inviting the brother to special times with the kids
@nycamazon9771 his brother is the kids' age. They are 3 years apart, dip shit.
The brother is 20. OP's kids are teenagers. They can't be his brother's. OP's wife has been treating her brother-in-law as just another teenage member of her family.
Op is a hater towards his own family out of jealousy. Your upbringing sucked. It's not your brother's fault
The big question:
WHY?...... pranks are meant to be playful, not hurtful. The fact they were willing to continue to spread lies and further ruin his life, tells me they planned everything from the start. Op was probably a "disposable friend", someone you can use and pretend to like, then ditched when you no longer want them.
In second story : the moment she bring him to op house it's over
@Dhadhu lol what's over. Silly thought. It is her home as well. She literally was there when he was born and helped raise him as a brother.
@@cw3598 because she chose to do so, even at OPs expense…
Story 2: OPs parents didn't raise him. He raised himself, and his wife raised his brother. OPs is extremely resentful and doesn't deny it, but he is an extremely damaged human being. He and his wife cannot see eye to eye because they have a completely different understanding of what family is.
S2, huuuuuuuuge Red Flag. Get a male divorce lawyer. Separate your finances, get all important documents and mementoes out of the house. Get off all joint Credit Cards. cancel any joint liabilities. You WILL be divorcing soon.
Story 1. 😮
Story 2. 😬
The guy in story 2 has issues he needs to work out.
Story 2: OP needs some serious therapy. The way that he treats his brother is ridiculous and unfair. It's not his fault that he didn't get to have the experiences his brother got, but his brother isn't at fault for that, either. I agree that his wife should've talked to him about the situation, but there's nothing wrong with her picking up his brother, there's nothing wrong with her wanting to help him. Really, there's nothing wrong with her being kind toward other people and wanting to help whenever possible. OP makes it out to be such a flaw and weakness of character because he doesn't want others to get what he didn't: help. He'd rather everyone else go through what he did, even his own children, because he didn't get to have that, and it's not fair for others to get it.
Therapy, man, but clearly he's not even close to acknowledging the flaws in his mindset.
Nothing wrong, except her husband DID NOT want his brother there!! I fail to see a problem with that. If she knew it in advance and still brought the brother there, that makes her the bit*h. I don't understand the hate you are directing toward OP. I felt that way about my sister, and if anyone had brought her to my house to live for even 1 day, there would be HELL and more HELL to pay. OP had every right to not want his brother there. That breech should not have happened.
Man if i was op1 i would have made a video of me talking to Emily's husband and send it in the group chat just to upset them
is it me or s2 op is the ah blud is telling his lil bro to grow up while being jealous of him XD
Every text in this group text is evidence against these people. Always save and record everything to cover your own a$$.
Could've used the evidence to sue them. For one he can gain from it, like education he wanted and therapy. For two it could ruin those people more. I don't think divorce, disowned, and losing jobs outweights whatever OP1 went through.
2nd story: I feel for OP; I'm sure it's very hard being bitter, resentful and jealous to the point of actively planning to alienate everyone around you. I'm certain it will get better after the divorce and kids going NC, though.
I think I remember the second story. His parents treated his brother way better than he himself so I understand his anger. His wife has no right to invite whoever she feels like. What woman thinks she has the right to infiltrate? Ridiculous.
@@Sg190th wtf no, his brother grew up hanging out with his kids. How is this even a question of the wife or brother being wrong. His wife literally helped raise the brother.
@@cw3598 Yeah that's true. It doesn't change that she should make final decisions. I think both should find middle ground. I can understand why he wants his brother to learn how to be independent like OP himself did but he shouldn't be too harsh. If anything, he should just yell at his parents or something.
@@Sg190th he didn't answer the damn phone.
@@cw3598 because she forced the relationship though, so it still comes back to her.
@Sg190th dude is a walking issue who even detest his kids.
Story 1: This is why many decent men want nothing to do with women.
story 2 , wife seems to find a backbone when it comes to her husband.
jfc "no one should get anything because I didn't." what a sad man.
Story god op is on a wr any percent lonely in a old folks home speedrun
"How fake do you want the stories to be?"
"Yes."
Why not sue them and make a good amount of $$$?
1st story, why not call the police and have a real proper Investigation
Story 2: The only thing I disagree with is the not helping after high school and as an adult type thing.
My father Still insists and Will Not let me pay for my own phone bill because he doesn't want to lose contact with me. He's in Southern Nevada and I'm in Washington State.
I'm the youngest of 7 and I get it and the overprotectiveness will not fade with some people. My dad Made me learn independence but the phone thing makes my 28 y/o ass feel spoiled 😂 😂 😂
2 nd op have worst wife and brother
Story 1: Revenge!!!
Story 2. They are very clearly having an affair... Which is kinda predatory considering the context.
Clearly? To whom?
😏
…they aren’t 🤦
@@Innerpandora You know your comment history is public, right? They actually contextualize why you are defending a female predator but still...
@@VRDejaVu You know your comment history is public, right? Where is your evidence they are very clearly having an affair?... but still...
@@Intrepid_A Enter the white knight in muddy armor. Tell me, what interesting thing did you find on my comment history? I'm curious. Oh, actually, I'm doubtful you even understand how to check someone's comment history on YT. But hey, you are dense enough to not understand that YT doesn't count like before your comment has hit the 1 min mark, unless they are yours, so this will be a fun convo :)
oh god the video game is so much heights.
I don’t get the first one. Like surely the note Is proof enough he wasn’t the one who initiated that interaction.