Thank you, sir! I estimate I have found my spot on YT - an English professor mentions John Dee, R. Steiner, A.E. Waite, and the chemical wedding all in one video!
My first "exposure" to the "Rosie's" was advertising in the back of Popular Science magazines in the '60s. The mystery of esoteric knowledge is an attractive one to minds like some of ours......and it can propel a lifetime's quest. Which has led me to conclude....esoteric knowledge cannot be conveyed by language, only it's echo. >>< Thank you for such an engaging talk 👍
5:40 Any opinions on Philip Sidney, personal friend and student of John Dee? Sidney also spent time with John Donne's paternal side I believe, just another data node to accompany the prefatory poem of Donne's to the Sidney Psalter.
Fascinating talk Michael, thank-you . Some questions: #Would you then think it correct to say that is better to think of Rosicrucianism as philosophical tendency/a family of resemblances , rather than an actual historically instututed organization? #2 Self-ascriptive use of the term would then be justified by the degree to which those family resemblances were evident or not? #3Who was Christian Rosenkreutz - actual or mythological? Alistair
Thanks. 1. I think there was a loose confederation of like-minded individuals in the 17th century, but not an official organization. And since there have always been some who arrive at the same insight. 2. It's a helpful descriptor, but easy to be misconstrued due to a lot of historical baggage--like The Golden Dawn and Georgia Guidestones. 3. I don’t think CRC was an actual historical figure.
14:00 another funny part is that Bacon didn't write Shakespeare but that he wants everyone else to think he did. There are Baconians who think he also wrote Don Quixote... 🤷
@@apokalupsishistoria what do you mean Foucaults pendulum? We’re you there with Shakespeare and bacon? Otherwise, how would you know what bacon allegedly did or didn’t do?
@@muddymikeWhy are you responding to me when you're not even going to contextualize my comment, which is responding to the video, which I even included a timestamp.... Michael was referencing Humberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum" to which I was also citing a humorous part of the book - along with the added tidbit of actual Baconian Theory. My channel is all about Shakespeare Authorship so I won't shy away from claiming I don't have a horse in that race, as I'm a "Group Theorist" that includes Bacon and a host of other names, like the Sidneys.
subbed , my new favorite addition among esoteric channels, btw do you think Sophia can be Holy Ghost? and what are your thoughts about Christian Kabbalah? can Holy Trinity correspond with the first 3 sefirot? the first sefirot God/kether, and middle pillar descending under that (male/female principle united), and other pillars descend from Chockmah(Wisdom/Sophia) and Binah (Understanding)
Michael, The subject is more than engaging, but the volume levels in the yurt are so deficient that when the inevitable commercial insertions occur, my neighbors in the house next door are startled! I recall my youthful puzzlement at the rather curious little Rosicrucian ads in the back of old magazines like Popular Mechanics “back in the day”… still more than a bit puzzled, but you are helping to, I want to say “shed light,” although I believe “enlighten” is actually the more accurate description… Thanks Michael!
Thank you, sir! I estimate I have found my spot on YT - an English professor mentions John Dee, R. Steiner, A.E. Waite, and the chemical wedding all in one video!
My first "exposure" to the "Rosie's" was advertising in the back of Popular Science magazines in the '60s. The mystery of esoteric knowledge is an attractive one to minds like some of ours......and it can propel a lifetime's quest.
Which has led me to conclude....esoteric knowledge cannot be conveyed by language, only it's echo.
>><
Thank you for such an engaging talk 👍
5:40 Any opinions on Philip Sidney, personal friend and student of John Dee?
Sidney also spent time with John Donne's paternal side I believe, just another data node to accompany the prefatory poem of Donne's to the Sidney Psalter.
Enjoyable discussion, thanks!
You're welcome!
What do you think of Jessie L. Weston's work? Is her work reliable for looking into the grail myth?
Her work has been superseded, I think, but I have found much of value in it. Especially that first reading in my 20s! Revolutionary.
@@michaelmartin8681 I wonder, who else would you recommend?
Fascinating talk Michael, thank-you . Some questions: #Would you then think it correct to say that is better to think of Rosicrucianism as philosophical tendency/a family of resemblances , rather than an actual historically instututed organization? #2 Self-ascriptive use of the term would then be justified by the degree to which those family resemblances were evident or not? #3Who was Christian Rosenkreutz - actual or mythological? Alistair
Thanks.
1. I think there was a loose confederation of like-minded individuals in the 17th century, but not an official organization. And since there have always been some who arrive at the same insight.
2. It's a helpful descriptor, but easy to be misconstrued due to a lot of historical baggage--like The Golden Dawn and Georgia Guidestones.
3. I don’t think CRC was an actual historical figure.
Thankyou@@michaelmartin8681
14:00 another funny part is that Bacon didn't write Shakespeare but that he wants everyone else to think he did.
There are Baconians who think he also wrote Don Quixote... 🤷
Were you there?
@@muddymike ? Was I there in Foucault's Pendulum? No.
@@apokalupsishistoria what do you mean Foucaults pendulum? We’re you there with Shakespeare and bacon? Otherwise, how would you know what bacon allegedly did or didn’t do?
@@muddymikeWhy are you responding to me when you're not even going to contextualize my comment, which is responding to the video, which I even included a timestamp....
Michael was referencing Humberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum" to which I was also citing a humorous part of the book - along with the added tidbit of actual Baconian Theory.
My channel is all about Shakespeare Authorship so I won't shy away from claiming I don't have a horse in that race, as I'm a "Group Theorist" that includes Bacon and a host of other names, like the Sidneys.
subbed , my new favorite addition among esoteric channels, btw do you think Sophia can be Holy Ghost? and what are your thoughts about Christian Kabbalah? can Holy Trinity correspond with the first 3 sefirot? the first sefirot God/kether, and middle pillar descending under that (male/female principle united), and other pillars descend from Chockmah(Wisdom/Sophia) and Binah (Understanding)
@@davemaverick8438 maybe I need to to do a video! Because it would take hours to type an answer on my phone 😅
Michael,
The subject is more than engaging, but the volume levels in the yurt are so deficient that when the inevitable commercial insertions occur, my neighbors in the house next door are startled!
I recall my youthful puzzlement at the rather curious little Rosicrucian ads in the back of old magazines like Popular Mechanics “back in the day”… still more than a bit puzzled, but you are helping to, I want to say “shed light,” although I believe “enlighten” is actually the more accurate description…
Thanks Michael!
@@glenncbjones sorry--recorded that one on my phone!
Just one question: are you a member?
I refuse to join a group that would have me as one of its members. 😄
No he is not a member.
Only spirit is substance