Hi Dr. Rall and Mr. Castillo, Thank you for this very forthright and personable description of the features of the Notion 2. This seems an incredibly impressive implementation, especially with the size of the Neurosity team of approximately 2. I've been EEG-curious for many years, and I've been FLOW-seeking for more years. I am interested in learning the state of the art with respect to deciphering someone's real-time mental state during a computer-based, or computer-based-and-physically interactive activity. The main goals I have in mind are 1) from an entertainment perspective, to have the game/experience to be adaptive so the participant is optimally engaged, and 2). from a performance perspective, to have the experience be adaptive such that the performance (accuracy, speed, results) are optimized. So while in the 1st case, a participant would be theoretically operating at the cusp of their capability, in the 2nd, they would be operating at some level of challenge "below" that such that getting best outcome is relatively "easy." I like to 'hear' myself type, and this might not be the correct forum for my questions... so feel free to point me some other place or forum if I'm requesting too much. So, to be up front, I don't even know the position numbers/designations around the brain that indicate traditional mapping of sensor sites for EEG. Of course I can google them... but I don't want to be a poser in my level of EEG sensor knowledge. But I do see that "pro-sumer" level EEG devices have different number and positioning of sensors. The Muse offerings "like" the forehead region. The Emotiv offerings seem to "like" front and sides of the skull, and the Notion 2 appears to favor the sides and back for sensor placement. From a practical perspective, I can see the attraction to the forehead for sensor placement as usually having less obstruction to signal transmission, especially for non-gel, or non-saline contact sensor technology. So, I'm curious to know about the applicability of the Notion 2 (vs. Emotiv Epoc X for example) toward my vaguely stated, hypothetical uses above (leaving cost and difficulty of API access aside for now). I'm assuming that more sensors and data is better to have... but the question is 'how much better'? Back to my original goals; Is the state of the art of sensing mental state in real-time "discriminatory enough" such that fewer sensors is more than adequate for the job, and because information from the front of the skull is not as critical as one might imagine? Maybe the electrical signals from the facial muscles can be more easily filtered out if sensors are not as close to the face? Also, again showing my ignorance, I've often been curious if prolonged physical activity will cause changes in EEG signals that require some "re-baselining" due to the increased moisture and salinity (sweat) that would be introduced between skull and sensors. Or would sweat actually be a positive aspect of physical activity such that the signals are sensed stronger, and re-application of saline would not be necessary. One more, again exposing my EEG newbie-ness, ... about the variability of our individual brains..... If Dr. Rall "trained" an application with the Notion 2 to activate a Wah guitar pedal (as Mr. Castillo has done), could Mr. Castillo activate the Wah guitar pedal with Dr. Rall's trained application? Or even more generically, could Dr. Rall "train" an application using the Notion 2 to send a "pinch" signal (thumb and forefinger) to perform some task that he could share with Mr. Castillo who could use it "out of the box" to send a "pinch" signal to perform some task. Thank you very much for the opportunity to get my questions a little organized for myself. Best Regards,
@@magicmarcell OSC (Open Sound Control) and LSL (Lab Streaming Layer) are data streaming protocols. The idea is that Notion 2, and now our new Crown features an Operating System with multiple ways of streaming data: Cloud and local Wi-Fi.
Thanks Dr. Rall for the video. Would love to know how does this compared to NextMind device and are there any plans on adding more channels, especially visual cortex?
It's just not clear how an individual user operates any of these devices. The websites never show you the How of things. Neurosity has a one page site and there's virtually no information for phone uses.
That is exactly why I am switching up the style of my videos to show how individual users can use these devices in every day life. Many thanks for the comment!
Question! I am trying to connect my emotiv headset but the contact quality is at 33%. All of the sensors are at green except the two sensors on the side. Can anyone help me?
Sounds really cool. Since the price is close to $1000, I need a lot of more convincing to get it. If it can enhance my programming, I would like to see more clear examples how it is helping me.
I'm curious as to what sort of outputs you can make with them consciously. Are there visual outputs like it can identify either were or what you're looking at? or are there outputs where you train a certain thought to act as a macro key input for a computer?
Programmer here.. I have chronic insomnia, so I'm interested not so much in measuring but stimulating the brain, either electrically or magnetically, to put it in a meditative/sleep-state. Is there any device that you can recommend? Neurosity, Kernel, Modius Sleep, Hapbee, NeoRhythm, Muse 2/Dream, Mendi, the Circadia, Dreem 2, Fisher Wallace Stimulator, SR1 Delta Sleeper?
Hello Dr. Rall and MR. Castillo, I am studying on EEG-based biometric systems I wonder that how authentication works on this device. Is it like a fingerprint in phones or just an account and password?
Guys . Build an exoskeleton for quadriplegic and paraplegic ppl to wear which is lightweight out of carbon fibre and adjustable,add the minimum motors to the joint sections where needed and rechargeable power supply. Make it affordable and allow the user to program the EEG to accommodate for the link and signal to be sent to desired motor in order to achieve some form of mobility through thought processing and the help of the wearable exoskeleton I can't understand why no one has tried this ? It's fairly simple . Trust me ! If it's affordable a lot of ppl who are disabled would want to get their hands on one . Some ppl don't care about walking . They just want to be able to stand by thought processing . I'm a lvl c5-c6 quad and I would love to be able just to stand on command . I don't care for walking but if the suit allows it by synchronization with the motors with patterned and programmed brain signal being sent to the designated motors ? That's a bonus .
I want my minds eye to be authenticated to verbatim memory not by uneducated authorities and or educuted guesses or hunch, and differentiate through actual brain memory storage rather than misinterpretation of heard immorality over things you hear over the news/ genre hollywood movies/ porn/ etc... pictyre a red balloon, not put that red balloon on a table.....memory yes authentic or real experience no..... this improvement can help save not only innocent lives, but misinterpreted data and jailed of the falsely accused!
As long as it cannot map my dreams, I don't care. Moving a finger. Wow. I am impressed...not. People are just financing development with devices that have no practical value. People will use this and then...wait for the Notion 3, 4, 5, then maybe Notion Ultra 10. Yeah the Ultra 10 will enable people to move two fingers at once and measure it. People will queue for that like in front of apple stores...not.
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Hi Dr. Rall and Mr. Castillo, Thank you for this very forthright and personable description of the features of the Notion 2. This seems an incredibly impressive implementation, especially with the size of the Neurosity team of approximately 2. I've been EEG-curious for many years, and I've been FLOW-seeking for more years. I am interested in learning the state of the art with respect to deciphering someone's real-time mental state during a computer-based, or computer-based-and-physically interactive activity. The main goals I have in mind are 1) from an entertainment perspective, to have the game/experience to be adaptive so the participant is optimally engaged, and 2). from a performance perspective, to have the experience be adaptive such that the performance (accuracy, speed, results) are optimized. So while in the 1st case, a participant would be theoretically operating at the cusp of their capability, in the 2nd, they would be operating at some level of challenge "below" that such that getting best outcome is relatively "easy."
I like to 'hear' myself type, and this might not be the correct forum for my questions... so feel free to point me some other place or forum if I'm requesting too much.
So, to be up front, I don't even know the position numbers/designations around the brain that indicate traditional mapping of sensor sites for EEG. Of course I can google them... but I don't want to be a poser in my level of EEG sensor knowledge. But I do see that "pro-sumer" level EEG devices have different number and positioning of sensors. The Muse offerings "like" the forehead region. The Emotiv offerings seem to "like" front and sides of the skull, and the Notion 2 appears to favor the sides and back for sensor placement.
From a practical perspective, I can see the attraction to the forehead for sensor placement as usually having less obstruction to signal transmission, especially for non-gel, or non-saline contact sensor technology.
So, I'm curious to know about the applicability of the Notion 2 (vs. Emotiv Epoc X for example) toward my vaguely stated, hypothetical uses above (leaving cost and difficulty of API access aside for now). I'm assuming that more sensors and data is better to have... but the question is 'how much better'? Back to my original goals; Is the state of the art of sensing mental state in real-time "discriminatory enough" such that fewer sensors is more than adequate for the job, and because information from the front of the skull is not as critical as one might imagine? Maybe the electrical signals from the facial muscles can be more easily filtered out if sensors are not as close to the face?
Also, again showing my ignorance, I've often been curious if prolonged physical activity will cause changes in EEG signals that require some "re-baselining" due to the increased moisture and salinity (sweat) that would be introduced between skull and sensors. Or would sweat actually be a positive aspect of physical activity such that the signals are sensed stronger, and re-application of saline would not be necessary.
One more, again exposing my EEG newbie-ness, ... about the variability of our individual brains..... If Dr. Rall "trained" an application with the Notion 2 to activate a Wah guitar pedal (as Mr. Castillo has done), could Mr. Castillo activate the Wah guitar pedal with Dr. Rall's trained application?
Or even more generically, could Dr. Rall "train" an application using the Notion 2 to send a "pinch" signal (thumb and forefinger) to perform some task that he could share with Mr. Castillo who could use it "out of the box" to send a "pinch" signal to perform some task.
Thank you very much for the opportunity to get my questions a little organized for myself.
Best Regards,
Great episode Cody. Neurosity team is committed to innovation and value. Developer focused. Learns from you. Healthier and Happier.
Agreed! Thanks Ben
Since this device is cloud based, does that mean that if the company fails, the customer would be left with a useless 800 dollar brick?
The device also supports OSC and LSL via your local network.
Also, crossing fingers that we don't go under :)
@@alexcastillo1904 what does osc and lsl mean?
@@magicmarcell OSC (Open Sound Control) and LSL (Lab Streaming Layer) are data streaming protocols. The idea is that Notion 2, and now our new Crown features an Operating System with multiple ways of streaming data: Cloud and local Wi-Fi.
@@alexcastillo1904 super cool stuff! Thanks man 🤙
Cant wait for my Notion 2 to get here. I've been deep diving the BCI research. There are so many things I want to try.
Awesome, good luck!
Thanks Dr. Rall for the video. Would love to know how does this compared to NextMind device and are there any plans on adding more channels, especially visual cortex?
That's a good question. I am looking forward to trying NextMind and making comparisons.
What is it use for ? And what is the benefits of using it
It's just not clear how an individual user operates any of these devices. The websites never show you the How of things. Neurosity has a one page site and there's virtually no information for phone uses.
That is exactly why I am switching up the style of my videos to show how individual users can use these devices in every day life. Many thanks for the comment!
@@CodyRallMD wow that's service! Many thanks!
Question! I am trying to connect my emotiv headset but the contact quality is at 33%. All of the sensors are at green except the two sensors on the side. Can anyone help me?
Which one is it; Insight or Epoch? Have you tried wetting them? Also some of those sensors have gel that dry over time and need to be replaced.
@@CodyRallMD I’m using a epoc emotiv x helmet. I’m trying to get to 100% contact quality to use the performance metrics section.
Sounds really cool. Since the price is close to $1000, I need a lot of more convincing to get it. If it can enhance my programming, I would like to see more clear examples how it is helping me.
Thanks for the comment. Will have to update with projects in the near future.
I'm curious as to what sort of outputs you can make with them consciously. Are there visual outputs like it can identify either were or what you're looking at? or are there outputs where you train a certain thought to act as a macro key input for a computer?
More imagining movements, tastes, ect. Individual thoughts are too discreet for a command at this point.
Programmer here.. I have chronic insomnia, so I'm interested not so much in measuring but stimulating the brain, either electrically or magnetically, to put it in a meditative/sleep-state.
Is there any device that you can recommend?
Neurosity, Kernel, Modius Sleep, Hapbee, NeoRhythm, Muse 2/Dream, Mendi, the Circadia, Dreem 2, Fisher Wallace Stimulator, SR1 Delta Sleeper?
If you want stimulation for sleep, definitely go with the NeoRhythm.
smart choice for focusing on tech addicts . The platform could really hit so high places
Thanks for the comment!
Hello Dr. Rall and MR. Castillo, I am studying on EEG-based biometric systems I wonder that how authentication works on this device. Is it like a fingerprint in phones or just an account and password?
Can it be used while charging?
Is this good for cognitive behaviour research?
I would suggest looking at some neuroscience specific tests and seeing how they could apply
@@CodyRallMD Thank you Dr. Cody.
@farhan Asim if you get any suitable optiom, please share it 😀😀😀
Can I use this device for meditation similarly to something like muse ?
Guys . Build an exoskeleton for quadriplegic and paraplegic ppl to wear which is lightweight out of carbon fibre and adjustable,add the minimum motors to the joint sections where needed and rechargeable power supply.
Make it affordable and allow the user to program the EEG to accommodate for the link and signal to be sent to desired motor in order to achieve some form of mobility through thought processing and the help of the wearable exoskeleton
I can't understand why no one has tried this ? It's fairly simple .
Trust me ! If it's affordable a lot of ppl who are disabled would want to get their hands on one . Some ppl don't care about walking . They just want to be able to stand by thought processing . I'm a lvl c5-c6 quad and I would love to be able just to stand on command . I don't care for walking but if the suit allows it by synchronization with the motors with patterned and programmed brain signal being sent to the designated motors ? That's a bonus .
I want my temporal lobes being demodulated to Audex and being able to hear my inner mind voice!
Sounds like a plan to me.
Now corps have all your data do they now want your brain data?
Not yet :)
Obama Brain Initiative
I want my minds eye to be authenticated to verbatim memory not by uneducated authorities and or educuted guesses or hunch, and differentiate through actual brain memory storage rather than misinterpretation of heard immorality over things you hear over the news/ genre hollywood movies/ porn/ etc... pictyre a red balloon, not put that red balloon on a table.....memory yes authentic or real experience no..... this improvement can help save not only innocent lives, but misinterpreted data and jailed of the falsely accused!
A lofty goal Smitty!
Hello doctor
Hello Milan.
How can i contact u doctor
Can u give me ur telegram number plzzz
As long as it cannot map my dreams, I don't care. Moving a finger. Wow. I am impressed...not. People are just financing development with devices that have no practical value.
People will use this and then...wait for the Notion 3, 4, 5, then maybe Notion Ultra 10. Yeah the Ultra 10 will enable people to move two fingers at once and measure it. People will queue for that like in front of apple stores...not.
Why? Why does anyone want to buy this? A long video that repeats the specs and free SDK over and over… why would I want this $1000 device?