Mr. Edwards performed this service for my sister as she had wished. I am very thankful to Mr. Edwards for his explaining the process and being such a caring man. For those who need to know more about the process please read up on it. There were some very hurtful comments in the Columbus Dispatch related to this process directed at Mr. Edwards and our family for having this process performed as per my sisters wishes.
Firstly, my condolences on the loss of your sister - so glad her last wishes were honored. Now, I don't mean to come off as nosy but there's no way around it, since Mr. Edwards was vague on one point; about how much does this procedure cost?
Robert Lowry I’d choose this process for ANY members of my family. I have a husband and two grown sons whom I adore......I would use this facility to take care of my loved ones remains. People who are ignorant to new practices often berate them. Your sister got her wish honoured by you....that’s allowed that matters! 🌹
We have it here in Maine. I am trying to get the word out. We just used it for a family member, he was a sailor and loved the ocean so it seemed like a nobainer!
I am a Physical/Chemical waste treatment operator in North Carolina. In the municipality where I work, the discharge to the city can range from a pH of 6.5 to 11.0, as directed by our wastewater permit. We are a factory with an onsite pre-treatment facility. The factory discharges the pre-treated water and the city "finishes" the wastewater. If this gentleman could set up an approved pre-treatment facility, he would be able to apply for a wastewater permit in his municipality. As he mentioned, different cities may have different requirements, depending on that particular municipality's waste treatment facility.
That makes sense to me. The city w/w plant here prefers we send a higher pH discharge (in our case 10.0 -10.5) due to a constant battle with acid rain and other factors. The sodium/potassium hydroxide alkalies used in this "aquamation" unit could be beneficial to the local w/w plant, and could actually provide cost savings to the city/county there.
I’m not fond of the idea of being burned up or liquified. The “Ick Factor” is too much when I consider family & grief. Burial is a family tradition I’m not willing to break. Thankfully, we all have a choice! Thank you for sharing this important information.
That's actually not a very good plan. Funeral Homes prey on grieving families who don't know what the deceased would have wanted and use that to upsell them on expensive services and treatments for your body. It's ideal to think about what your wishes are, what priorities there are, so that when the time comes, your loved ones won't be taken advantage of by someone trying to sell them a sealed casket or some other nonsense.
Interesting technology as an alternative to cremation. When I was a child, I lived in a semi-rural area. The area improved after a freeway was created nearby. After we left, the house was sold to a crematorium. Imagine where you slept as a kid and dreamed one day housing a crematorium with many bodies passing through. Sweet Dreams y'all!
Wouldn't concentrated acetic acid be better than using Carbon Dioxide to remove the alkalinity of the waste? The reason I mention this is that most hydrolysis cremations are marketed as producing less CO2 for the environment because they don't burn gas. Acetic acid is vinegar. Totally natural and easy to source. When mixed with alkalines the product is a neutral acetate.
The Mexican cartel invented this to use a 55-gallon drum with acid to dissolve body there was a document on this you could look it up on UA-cam the person that did this oh, was called the soup maker
@@jeanalexandre1105 it was created in the early 1800 in america as a way to dissolve dead farm animals when the ground was frozen or unburied. The cartel uses actual acid in comparison to this method. Which was not created by the cartel. Same concept different chemicals.
Dr Edward has such vast amount of knowledge on the " aquamation " ..,,,only diff bet cremation n aquamation is that time diff and equation is process of decomposition,,,compared to being burnt instant,,,,
Clearly the bigger issue here should be that the allowable EPA standard is 12.5. Anyway, whenever I finally kick it, I wouldn't mind taking a final swim.
It depends on the system. There are low-temperature/low-pressure systems that take about 6-8 hours, and high-temperature/high-pressure systems that work more quickly. The cost varies, depending on the funeral home offering the service. There are systems in Canada! You can find out more at this website: aquamationinfo.com/
Only it is not exactly water but more like drano heated and under pressure. Think of it like being cooked in a pressure cooker in a slution that disolves the body into a soup.
I’d be content to have my remains disposed of this way. I’ve no urge to decompose under the ground. Only to be dug up in a few hundred years for some buildings to be put up.....just dissolve me, and be done with me.
Watch the video from start to finish! All your questions will be answered!!! I think some ppl don’t watch the whole thing and assume the worst or they just don’t listen!!!!! He clearly said it’s not harmful to the water system! Why do u think it’s called green cremation?????
You might check with Bio-Response Solutions' VP of Research Samantha Seiber. She's keeping track of those developments. You can call the company at 317-386-3500.
And here we have the Binford 5000 Aquamation" unit. Arr Arr Arr. I can only hope that the powers that be approve this for Montana. I am considering "natural burial" but have doubts of the viability of the place that i visited. Seems like a shoe string budget operation and is VERY EXPENSIVE. I don't want to chance the place going under and someone digging my ass up 10 or 15 years down the road.
You might be able to do natural organic reduction, or body composting. The state legislature is currently considering a bill to allow it. Here's a blog post with more info: agoodgoodbye.com/trends-in-death-care/lets-help-legalize-body-composting-in-maryland/
Watch action lab blogs videos & see up close & first hand what the chemicals they use in that machine to to a chicken in an opened container. The chicken quickly turns to soup !
SO, can the love ones get the skeleton of their love one instead of it being ground up?? He forgot to say the chemical only deals with the flesh it doesn't dissolve the bones from what I understand from other sources
SO, you want the skeleton? Does it matter if it is intact? If so, you're out of luck because once the flesh and ligaments are dissolved, the skeleton is nothing more than a big pile of bones.
Peanutbutterbutterfly flame cremation is 3.000 that’s what my mother paid for hers! She paid for it before she passed in April! That was the cost here in Alabama
+MrHeadbanger366 Here's a 2015 blog post on the topic: agoodgoodbye.com/tools-of-the-trade/update-on-alkaline-hydrolysis-systems/ And here's a podcast on A Good Goodbye Radio that explains more about alkaline hydrolysis: agoodgoodbye.com/tools-of-the-trade/update-on-alkaline-hydrolysis-systems/
I wouldn’t mind flame based cremation either. But, it does cause pollution. I believe fire is cleansing. But.....I don’t need to leave a carbon footprint because of this belief I have. I’d be happy with this. Hopefully it will be available for everyone soon, everywhere.
taz069 have some compassion!! Your comment was extremely rude as well as uneducated. Regular cremation process sends your fluids through the same process.
Brian Landers -Wrong! Cremation is the total extraction of all water from tissues. The result is the organic remains are then carbonized. The remains that cannot be carbonized are usually teeth and bone. These calcifications (calcium) are then placed in a blender and crushed up into small pieces so that they can be easily placed, along with the carbonated remains, into a container (usually a plastic bag inside of a cardboard box). There is not any carbon smoke being released during the cremation process, only heat and some steam from the water vapor. The greenest form of disposal is direct burial. No casket, no vault, no cardboard box. The body is placed in a hole six feet deep directly on the soil and the hole containing to remains is refilled. No marker, just memories.
I believe this will become.the future of disposing of corpses.. Where is Jimmy Hoffa? He went into the waste treatment facility in Jersey and his bones were thrown into the bay... This process appears more economical and an added benefit is the reclamation of titanium parts as well as all artificial materials surgically implanted can possibly be reprocessed and used in future patients. Time to drive to Columbus and look into this process.
I keep thinking that the tray/tube isn't that big/wide. What (size) does it stop at? It looks like if you wore a dress size of say -12 youd just squeeze in there. Also, I am curious to know what the price differential is offered by opting for this VS you basic cremation by fire/heat. Anyone have an actual answer?
+Tisha Nortac Hi Tisha: It's actually bigger than it looks. The manufacturer's information materials indicates this type of unit can handle up to 500 pounds. You can find out more online at BioResponseSolutions.com.
+Tisha Nortac - Also the prices for these services vary by market. Those funeral homes that offer both options will frequently offer the same price for the service. Given no price differential, one funeral director told me that more families choose the water option over the fire option.
Im wouldn't doubt that he would tell you that, It's a marketing thing, I see this as a "Cryogenics" experiment, the only difference is this, My opinion: If some feel that doing Burn as a form as cremation could be inhumane, then i would say, This method is no difference then filling a tube with lyme, they are actually decomposing a body in a inhumane way, just use lyme, its the same process with out any remains.
Actually, the pulverized bones are returned, much the same way you receive fire-based cremated remains. It actually results in more bone matter returned to the family.
@camfido1... goes to water treatment plant. The same as when everyone who goes to the bathroom to take care of business, that too, goes to the water treatment plant.
Wauw...its greate...its clean , faster, And better for the nature. it Just no Gas , Just water. .I hope this is coming to Europe ( also to Holland ) thanks for this movie. ...
He should appeal the decision. Having a body disposed of in this way is no worse than the traditional methods of burial and cremation as far as I can see. If this method poses no health or other hazard to the public and the next of kin have given permission, I personally can see nothing wrong with the method (on moral grounds at least) and see no reasonable grounds for the authorities refusal to grant a licence. If they don't like the idea of liquefied human remains being emptied directly into the city's sewers then they can specify that it be disposed of in some other way. BTW, what were the grounds on which the authorities refused a licence?
***** The person in the video dances around it a bit, but what essentially happens is that the body is turned into liquid soap. Saponification is a process where fatty acids are treated by alkali. NaOH generally creates solid soaps, while KOH generally creates liquid soaps. They're using a mixture because KOH is more expensive, but some is necessary in order to lend enough solubility to the corpse slurry to allow it to run down the drain. Honestly, as long as this process isn't used to disappear people (a complaint against crematoria as well) who cares?
Because when an autopsy or embalming is performed the blood and other body tissue is washed down the drain anyway. So are the medications and diseases of the body. This seems safer in so many ways.
@@jasonblue6484 right? I've seen other videos that explain the alkaline chemicals used in this process can actually neutralize medications. This also uses no resources besides electricity so there's no carbon footprint. This is better in literally every way. Not to mention this seems like it would be much easier on the family to think about rather than their loved one being roasted. Water isn't scary while fire is.
Gail Rubin. You just said what I was going to say. BUT ! I hope the person's soul has left the body before being put in that thing. Guess it could just go right though it huh? Dah!
According to this site, aquamationinfo.com/faq/ it is legal in North Carolina. Do an online search for "North Carolina funeral home with alkaline hydrolysis." There is a provider in the state!
I want them to turn me into a dead body soda pop...just shoot my water into my soda stream ;) Joking!! I do think this is an amazing process and something that has seriously changing my views on being cremated!
You might check with Bio-Response Solutions' VP of Research Samantha Seiber. They make these machines and keep track of which states allow the use of alkaline hydrolysis. You can call the company at 317-386-3500.
At least there are no bugs. I think I prefer cremation. When you are embalmed, your blood goes into the toilet-sewer. What is the difference between that and the rest of the body going here?
Nicholas Alonzi. The brain might be working but the person may not be able to move. Because of the drugs they gave to a mother while giving birth doctors had pronounced the baby dead...just BEFORE they were going to cremate the baby IT STARTED TO CRY. The baby was almost burned alive. TRUE STORY.
Excellent alternative to burial or cremation. I like the thought of my body being separated naturally into water, this sounds like a more peaceful way to go rather than being blasted by fiery flames of hell in a crematory, or being left to rot slowly in the earth being eaten by maggots. Come on every one this has to be the best way for our body’s to go.
@@GailRubin is it in the United Kingdom, I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem getting through customs, just ship it across in a dingy boat everything else seems to be getting past customs this way lately😂
Tamara Figge. Actually we have been drinking people for a long long time only this way is grosser. In funeral homes the bodies fluids are drained down through pipes & into the water system. In the stacked concrete buildings the coffins are put in at an angle so the body fluids go down pipes & into the ground water. So those who say that they are glad they have 'WELLS' should think again.
Tamara Figge - We ether “breathe” granny, “drink” granny, or eat AND drink granny, with natural burial. Any manor of disposition, of any material, returns that material to our atmosphere. Our bodies consume the atmosphere. So, it doesn’t matter, the end results are the same. Its all in how you perceive it.
The bones become brittle and sandy - those are dried, pulverized, and returned to the family as cremated remains. The alkaline hydrolysis system actually returns more bone matter than fire-based cremation.
Yes, the liquid, called effluent, is sterile and free of any pathogens, DNA, RNA, or drugs that were in the person's system. To find out the status of alkaline hydrolysis in Nevada or any other state, contact Samantha Sieber, VP of Research at Bio-Response Solutions. The phone number there is 317-386-3500 (Danville, Indiana).
This machine is new and require energy. But Islamic muslim burial is more beautiful, greener and natural process for thousand thousand years. Allah is great who guides most respected peaceful burial. Explore islam for peace. May Allah give us guidence and pious life.
I like this process over the added heat and pressure processes, BUT.... Why is the "fluent" just dumped? The whole point of this process is that it is a greener way to be "processed" and that it is similar to being processed in nature, but once the body is processed it is then treated as a traditional waste with the bones then being processed similar to cremation. (Forgive the overuse of the word process, I was trying to find a nice way of getting my point across) Why stop short? Why not use the glycerine produced by this process from the fats and make some soap or any of the other thousand uses that glycerol has? As far as the other bits that remain after the glycerine is removed, this can be dried and compressed into time release fertilizer pellets, then you can add a little of it to your plants and when those daffodils flower in the spring you can convince yourself that it's grandma smiling at you! I am sorry if what I am saying comes off harsh, but as someone who likes this process for it's greenness what I don't like is how it is modeled after current fire cremation practices and how the liquefied body is treated like waste and then "processed" like waste in the current linear fashion which is what got us into trouble to begin with! I could go on, but I am sure I would upset quite a few people... That's not my intention....
By the law of conservation of energy, this is not more or less friendly to the atmosphere or the environment for that matter. The same amount of energy that takes to decompose a body naturally, through cremation or alkaline hydrolysis is the same one. This is just another patented device to make people feel they are doing something for the environment, the only person who benefits from it is the patent owner.
I think your science probably didn't quite clear high school. While the energy to break all the chemical bonds in one's soft tissues are probably the same, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the conservation of energy. With cremation you have to heat the furnace up to a ridiculously high temperature. The furnace remains hot even after the body is cremated. So energy is already wasted there.
wshyang Sometimes I wish people would just think for a fraction of a second before posting a stupid comment online.... But that's ok, there is always room for stupid people like you to attempt to contract physics and chemistry... Read a little about James Prescott Joule, then comeback and argue, otherwise... don't waist my time.
+taz069 YOU'RE WRONG. The amount of cement, wood and space that's taken up in traditional burials is a growing ecological concern it also causes the bodies to decompose anaerobically which produces methane. cremation however is also not particularly economical with the amount of wood that's incinerated as well as the gas used and also the gases like huge amounts of carbon monoxide that are produced from combustion are not very good environmentally as well as of coarse heat energy wasted. this process just produces a basic solution of water as well as a few salts mixed in and of coarse calcium phosphate from the bones. In my opinion as an aspiring organic chemist this is a superb method for the decomposition of bodies. You could also throw the calcium phosphate into and arc furnace and recycle the phosphorous which is a depleting resource on our planet. just a thought
taz069. Here, here,well said. A green burial: where the body is wrapped in a sheet & put in a wicker basket. Eighter the company buries the body or a friend or friends or other family members burie the body in a nice park like setting, no headstone. You DON'T have to be embambed & can decay naturally.
@@GailRubin I was just curious about it. I am from Texas and I was interested if it's being offered as a alternate to cremation in many places. I know the traditional burial in my area I am from runs about $14,000. But I do live in a rural area so they weren't offering that 3 years ago.
"Concerned with the foot print they leave on Earth" LOL Total BS. Do you people know of how many tens of thousand of various civilizations of come and gone on Earth over 200,000 years or more? Do you know how many people were born and died in all that time? Trillions. And guess what, Earth is still here. You personally are not doing a damm thing to this world to hurt it. You can't, your way to small.
jb0177. Yeah & then we 'HAVE' to drink & bathe & cook with that mess!! Water treatment takes care of it, yeah right. Another crap machine to make others rich.
Far better than being cremated by fire I didn't want that but I know my kids and I don't have the money if I die to be buried cost as astronomical I do not want to be filled with embounding fluid that is disgusting. I'm thinking this is a better way to go less expensive by far.
this method should be approved in all states ASAP
Mr. Edwards performed this service for my sister as she had wished. I am very thankful to Mr. Edwards for his explaining the process and being such a caring man. For those who need to know more about the process please read up on it. There were some very hurtful comments in the Columbus Dispatch related to this process directed at Mr. Edwards and our family for having this process performed as per my sisters wishes.
Firstly, my condolences on the loss of your sister - so glad her last wishes were honored. Now, I don't mean to come off as nosy but there's no way around it, since Mr. Edwards was vague on one point; about how much does this procedure cost?
My brother in law paid the bill but I believe it was around 750 -800 dollars in 2011. You can call Mr. Edwards at 614-444-3200 for the current rate.
Thank you so much!! I will give Mr. Edwards a call. :)
Robert Lowry I’d choose this process for ANY members of my family. I have a husband and two grown sons whom I adore......I would use this facility to take care of my loved ones remains. People who are ignorant to new practices often berate them. Your sister got her wish honoured by you....that’s allowed that matters! 🌹
This is what I did for my sister in January. This helps me visualize better the process. This is what I am choosing for myself as well.
Me too
We have it here in Maine. I am trying to get the word out. We just used it for a family member, he was a sailor and loved the ocean so it seemed like a nobainer!
That's great! I heard that a system in Maine actually improved the municipal sewage system.
I am a Physical/Chemical waste treatment operator in North Carolina. In the municipality where I work, the discharge to the city can range from a pH of 6.5 to 11.0, as directed by our wastewater permit. We are a factory with an onsite pre-treatment facility. The factory discharges the pre-treated water and the city "finishes" the wastewater. If this gentleman could set up an approved pre-treatment facility, he would be able to apply for a wastewater permit in his municipality. As he mentioned, different cities may have different requirements, depending on that particular municipality's waste treatment facility.
I heard that a funeral home in Maine set up one of these systems, and the effluent actually helped the town's sewage system function better.
That makes sense to me. The city w/w plant here prefers we send a higher pH discharge (in our case 10.0 -10.5) due to a constant battle with acid rain and other factors. The sodium/potassium hydroxide alkalies used in this "aquamation" unit could be beneficial to the local w/w plant, and could actually provide cost savings to the city/county there.
When I was in Italy,I was told that to was used for wine making!! Now I know where all those missing bodies actually went.
I’m not fond of the idea of being burned up or liquified. The “Ick Factor” is too much when I consider family & grief. Burial is a family tradition I’m not willing to break. Thankfully, we all have a choice! Thank you for sharing this important information.
Then it is great you live in the USA whete you can still be enbalmed and put in an expensive box in the ground. Keep movin!
I agree. Burial is best. I don't like embalming. Pine box, and dirt on top. Let the dead decompose into the earth as fast as possible.
@@sassylrhg embalming is really only for open casket viewing.
@@sassylrhg Or we can have direct burial. No embalming, no box and no vault, just a shroud over the body buried somewhere peaceful.
My kids asked me how I wanted my remains to be disposed of and I told them, "I don't know, surprise me".
Charles Bishop Lol
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That's actually not a very good plan. Funeral Homes prey on grieving families who don't know what the deceased would have wanted and use that to upsell them on expensive services and treatments for your body. It's ideal to think about what your wishes are, what priorities there are, so that when the time comes, your loved ones won't be taken advantage of by someone trying to sell them a sealed casket or some other nonsense.
So.....If your body gets fed into a wood chipper, would that be a good surprise?
Told my family I want the cheapest thing possible. Maybe burn me up and plant a tree on top of my ashes. Or whatever. Lol
This is so cool! It's been around since 1880 as someone stated in another video but what a revolutionary and up to the minute technology!
Interesting technology as an alternative to cremation. When I was a child, I lived in a semi-rural area. The area improved after a freeway was created nearby. After we left, the house was sold to a crematorium. Imagine where you slept as a kid and dreamed one day housing a crematorium with many bodies passing through. Sweet Dreams y'all!
better after you left then you moved into it after the crematorium left lol
Wouldn't concentrated acetic acid be better than using Carbon Dioxide to remove the alkalinity of the waste? The reason I mention this is that most hydrolysis cremations are marketed as producing less CO2 for the environment because they don't burn gas. Acetic acid is vinegar. Totally natural and easy to source. When mixed with alkalines the product is a neutral acetate.
If you have a funeral here, DON'T HAVE THE SOUP! lol
The Mexican cartel invented this to use a 55-gallon drum with acid to dissolve body there was a document on this you could look it up on UA-cam the person that did this oh, was called the soup maker
@@jeanalexandre1105 it was created in the early 1800 in america as a way to dissolve dead farm animals when the ground was frozen or unburied. The cartel uses actual acid in comparison to this method. Which was not created by the cartel. Same concept different chemicals.
Dr Edward has such vast amount of knowledge on the " aquamation " ..,,,only diff bet cremation n aquamation is that time diff and equation is process of decomposition,,,compared to being burnt instant,,,,
I would like to see this in a future "Saw", movie. Love it!
"" So sooory, for you, but my loved ones deserve better than to go down the sewers, and into our drinking water.!
Hopefully before I go, Ohio will allow this to be done, hands down I would like this for me.
What about folks who are very large how would you load them into that small thing.
Band saw in the back room for making chunks small enough to go into the pressure cooker
Clearly the bigger issue here should be that the allowable EPA standard is 12.5. Anyway, whenever I finally kick it, I wouldn't mind taking a final swim.
you mean pressure cooked
When will this be in the UK , its a good idea and a better choice.
Alkaline hydrolysis, also known as water cremation, is currently legal in the UK and has been available since 2023.
How much does it cost? Can you keep the bones in their natural state?? Thank you for your answers.
Is it hot water how long does it take to complete the process how much does it cost and can a Canadian person get done
It depends on the system. There are low-temperature/low-pressure systems that take about 6-8 hours, and high-temperature/high-pressure systems that work more quickly. The cost varies, depending on the funeral home offering the service. There are systems in Canada! You can find out more at this website: aquamationinfo.com/
Only it is not exactly water but more like drano heated and under pressure. Think of it like being cooked in a pressure cooker in a slution that disolves the body into a soup.
Saw another one of these and the director took the left over fluid & put in jugs loaded them in his van and took home to put on his garden LOL
The effluent is sterile and also great fertilizer!
i'll take regular burial, thanks. I'm good. That looks like a pressure cooker. No thanks!
I’d be content to have my remains disposed of this way. I’ve no urge to decompose under the ground. Only to be dug up in a few hundred years for some buildings to be put up.....just dissolve me, and be done with me.
Watch the video from start to finish! All your questions will be answered!!! I think some ppl don’t watch the whole thing and assume the worst or they just don’t listen!!!!! He clearly said it’s not harmful to the water system! Why do u think it’s called green cremation?????
Any updated information on to the availability/legality of alkaline hydrolysis here in Ohio? I can't find any info more recent than 2012.
You might check with Bio-Response Solutions' VP of Research Samantha Seiber. She's keeping track of those developments. You can call the company at 317-386-3500.
Thanks for the info Gail!
And here we have the Binford 5000 Aquamation" unit. Arr Arr Arr. I can only hope that the powers that be approve this for Montana. I am considering "natural burial" but have doubts of the viability of the place that i visited. Seems like a shoe string budget operation and is VERY EXPENSIVE. I don't want to chance the place going under and someone digging my ass up 10 or 15 years down the road.
Wow I wonder if Maryland has one of those cause I would go for that after I die
You might be able to do natural organic reduction, or body composting. The state legislature is currently considering a bill to allow it. Here's a blog post with more info: agoodgoodbye.com/trends-in-death-care/lets-help-legalize-body-composting-in-maryland/
It,s coming to holland in 2019..i,m HAPPY...
this is what i plan on doing!!!
Me to than I would get a grave where my ashes for my final resting place
Watch action lab blogs videos & see up close & first hand what the chemicals they use in that machine to to a chicken in an opened container. The chicken quickly turns to soup !
Can I just go out like Arnold like in Terminator 2? Just lower my body into molten metal. Kinda hope that metal gets used for ship building.
When I die I don't want to be flushed down the drain with poop.
Do you want to be worm poop?
What sort of investment is necessary for each of the Low Temperature units, as opposed to the High Temperature ones?
Why do you wanna know?
I'd like to know so I can look into doing this in my State.
We as a person taken away remain only our hardware we as a person never die we have to face what we did
I wish they did it in my state in Dallas Texas I feel fire cremation is a lil too harsh 😔
I feel the same way. If we have it in Philadelphia, I’ll change my will to have me cremated to this process.
They do in Texas for sure.
Harsh? You mean like painful?
@@jrwinkler323 No. Texas still is not a state you can have aquamation in.
We need that in PA
Most of the people I see at Walmart won’t fit in this thing, too fat. Have you got a bigger one?
bob Last they must be experimenting on that one
Why are you being so mean? That is really uncalled for. Maybe you should apologize for such rudness.^0^
@@shymuzzgal9280 what can I do for you?
@@shymuzzgal9280 what is this suppose to be beli8 this is a persons website...^0^
@barberman2000... to power your computer also takes energy.
i want this when i die!
SO, can the love ones get the skeleton of their love one instead of it being ground up?? He forgot to say the chemical only deals with the flesh it doesn't dissolve the bones from what I understand from other sources
SO, you want the skeleton? Does it matter if it is intact? If so, you're out of luck because once the flesh and ligaments are dissolved, the skeleton is nothing more than a big pile of bones.
SHOW ME THE MONEY !! How much for this trip ??
I read somewhere it's over $4,000. So, yeah. Way too much!
Peanutbutterbutterfly flame cremation is 3.000 that’s what my mother paid for hers! She paid for it before she passed in April! That was the cost here in Alabama
How much does this offer way cost??
Thanks soo much for sharing
How many places around the country are doing this now? It's given me some food for thought.
+MrHeadbanger366 Here's a 2015 blog post on the topic:
agoodgoodbye.com/tools-of-the-trade/update-on-alkaline-hydrolysis-systems/
And here's a podcast on A Good Goodbye Radio that explains more about alkaline hydrolysis:
agoodgoodbye.com/tools-of-the-trade/update-on-alkaline-hydrolysis-systems/
So your Soylent green needs Calcium Supplements ?.
I wouldn’t mind flame based cremation either. But, it does cause pollution. I believe fire is cleansing. But.....I don’t need to leave a carbon footprint because of this belief I have. I’d be happy with this. Hopefully it will be available for everyone soon, everywhere.
Do u use hot or cold water I am seriously thinking about this for myself.
The system uses warm water.
Does it smell? I’ve heard the facility / room smells bad. I still want aquamation.
I don't think it does smell bad, or really like anything. It could be other elements in a prep room that smell.
I love the whole idea of flushing granpa down the toilet... LMAO OMG!!!!!
taz069 have some compassion!! Your comment was extremely rude as well as uneducated. Regular cremation process sends your fluids through the same process.
@@johnnabaker784 must be lacking a sense of humor how sad!!!
Brian Landers -Wrong! Cremation is the total extraction of all water from tissues. The result is the organic remains are then carbonized. The remains that cannot be carbonized are usually teeth and bone. These calcifications (calcium) are then placed in a blender and crushed up into small pieces so that they can be easily placed, along with the carbonated remains, into a container (usually a plastic bag inside of a cardboard box). There is not any carbon smoke being released during the cremation process, only heat and some steam from the water vapor. The greenest form of disposal is direct burial. No casket, no vault, no cardboard box. The body is placed in a hole six feet deep directly on the soil and the hole containing to remains is refilled. No marker, just memories.
Breathing in your grandpa is not much better))
How would the chemical solution get at the brain when inside the skull, some people are not autopsied when they die?
I believe this will become.the future of disposing of corpses..
Where is Jimmy Hoffa? He went into the waste treatment facility in Jersey and his bones were thrown into the bay...
This process appears more economical and an added benefit is the reclamation of titanium parts as well as all artificial materials surgically implanted can possibly be reprocessed and used in future patients.
Time to drive to Columbus and look into this process.
add carrots, celery, potatoes and onions. Lightly baste and pressure cook for 6 hours.
I keep thinking that the tray/tube isn't that big/wide. What (size) does it stop at? It looks like if you wore a dress size of say -12 youd just squeeze in there. Also, I am curious to know what the price differential is offered by opting for this VS you basic cremation by fire/heat. Anyone have an actual answer?
+Tisha Nortac
Hi Tisha: It's actually bigger than it looks. The manufacturer's information materials indicates this type of unit can handle up to 500 pounds. You can find out more online at BioResponseSolutions.com.
+Tisha Nortac - Also the prices for these services vary by market. Those funeral homes that offer both options will frequently offer the same price for the service. Given no price differential, one funeral director told me that more families choose the water option over the fire option.
thats easy. perhaps they just cut the body in sections. and then liqui-cremate in chunks.
Im wouldn't doubt that he would tell you that, It's a marketing thing, I see this as a "Cryogenics" experiment, the only difference is this, My opinion: If some feel that doing Burn as a form as cremation could be inhumane, then i would say, This method is no difference then filling a tube with lyme, they are actually decomposing a body in a inhumane way, just use lyme, its the same process with out any remains.
Inhumane. The person is dead...it is just a corpse. How can you possibly treat a corpse inhumanely?
So i assume with this method the family gets NOTHING to take with them or bury or spread out or stick on a shelf, etc???????
Actually, the pulverized bones are returned, much the same way you receive fire-based cremated remains. It actually results in more bone matter returned to the family.
Gail Rubin and the ashes are ivory white instead of brownish color!!!
So what would or what does my soup look like once the process is complete before it is sent down the drain?
The effluent (official term) looks like coffee or tea.
Just going to stand there and watch me melt, but that’s all right because I like the way it felt.
😂 I immediately heard “Love the way you lie”.
Build a big pyre, set my body on top, and set me ablaze! Or put me in a small wooden boat and set in on fire as a sail away!
That would actually be a bad ass way to go out I'm all for it lol
@camfido1... goes to water treatment plant. The same as when everyone who goes to the bathroom to take care of business, that too, goes to the water treatment plant.
Wauw...its greate...its clean , faster, And better for the nature. it Just no Gas , Just water. .I hope this is coming to Europe ( also to Holland ) thanks for this movie. ...
what happens to the solution afterwards
It goes down the drain into the municipal sewer system.
He should appeal the decision. Having a body disposed of in this way is no worse than the traditional methods of burial and cremation as far as I can see. If this method poses no health or other hazard to the public and the next of kin have given permission, I personally can see nothing wrong with the method (on moral grounds at least) and see no reasonable grounds for the authorities refusal to grant a licence. If they don't like the idea of liquefied human remains being emptied directly into the city's sewers then they can specify that it be disposed of in some other way.
BTW, what were the grounds on which the authorities refused a licence?
***** The person in the video dances around it a bit, but what essentially happens is that the body is turned into liquid soap. Saponification is a process where fatty acids are treated by alkali. NaOH generally creates solid soaps, while KOH generally creates liquid soaps. They're using a mixture because KOH is more expensive, but some is necessary in order to lend enough solubility to the corpse slurry to allow it to run down the drain.
Honestly, as long as this process isn't used to disappear people (a complaint against crematoria as well) who cares?
+Dan Adams
Thanks for the info, very informative. :D
Dan Adams Oh Jesus, "Corpse Slurry", there's a phrase that's gonna stick with me...
Because when an autopsy or embalming is performed the blood and other body tissue is washed down the drain anyway. So are the medications and diseases of the body. This seems safer in so many ways.
@@jasonblue6484 right? I've seen other videos that explain the alkaline chemicals used in this process can actually neutralize medications. This also uses no resources besides electricity so there's no carbon footprint. This is better in literally every way. Not to mention this seems like it would be much easier on the family to think about rather than their loved one being roasted. Water isn't scary while fire is.
What if you have a phobia of small spaces?
I'm thinking that doesn't matter when you're dead.
Gail Rubin. You just said what I was going to say. BUT ! I hope the person's soul has left the body before being put in that thing. Guess it could just go right though it huh? Dah!
you start at the toes and work towards the nose
That’s how I want to go!!!!!
I’m getting turned into a diamond or diamonds for my kids but this would be a good second option
This method is must better than flames in the oven.
I wish we had this in n.c.
According to this site, aquamationinfo.com/faq/ it is legal in North Carolina. Do an online search for "North Carolina funeral home with alkaline hydrolysis." There is a provider in the state!
We certainly do! Three places in the State.
Wait he has a funeral home in Marion Ohio
I want them to turn me into a dead body soda pop...just shoot my water into my soda stream ;) Joking!! I do think this is an amazing process and something that has seriously changing my views on being cremated!
Desirae Collins. Just think of all as sorry souls having to drink ya, bath in ya, cook with ya. Yuck!
Yep i need to douche as well!!
Is there a place in SC that does this and how much does it cost?
You might check with Bio-Response Solutions' VP of Research Samantha Seiber. They make these machines and keep track of which states allow the use of alkaline hydrolysis. You can call the company at 317-386-3500.
Is the body just being dissolved in a strong alkali, then? If so, are we being made into soap, effectively, then?
Gaggy Mott not soap it’s the natural way just as if u were in the ground decomposing
is very similar to aquamation sort of like a common grave in that sense this is just the recycling process of hell.
Nice
Does the body have to go into the machine naked as i guess it won’t dissolve fabric
Biodegradable clothing can be used, such as cotton, linen, silk or wool. These will dissolve, as the flesh does.
Ah right. Thank you
what if a person is obese do they have one big enough for them
Yes, these machines can handle a body of up to 300 pounds.
They cut them up so they fit
Mike Flansburg bullshit!!!!!!
At least there are no bugs. I think I prefer cremation. When you are embalmed, your blood goes into the toilet-sewer. What is the difference between that and the rest of the body going here?
yeah well you might have felt the burnt cos nerve system might be still alive but you cant move, you wont do anything.
si matley that's dumb. They don't cremate people if they are alive. What you just described requires the brain to be functioning
Nicholas Alonzi. The brain might be working but the person may not be able to move.
Because of the drugs they gave to a mother while giving birth doctors had pronounced the baby dead...just BEFORE they were going to cremate the baby IT STARTED TO CRY. The baby was almost burned alive. TRUE STORY.
Where can I get one?
Contact the folks at Bio-Response Solutions: www.bioresponsefuneral.com/
Use a grinder instead
I’d rather decompose in a natural cemetery and help the environment that way.
I'm going out like that or if God just takes me up like Enoch (kjv)
Then be planted in a tree
Excellent alternative to burial or cremation. I like the thought of my body being separated naturally into water, this sounds like a more peaceful way to go rather than being blasted by fiery flames of hell in a crematory, or being left to rot slowly in the earth being eaten by maggots.
Come on every one this has to be the best way for our body’s to go.
Thanks for your comments! I'm hoping we can get this allowed in my home state of New Mexico.
@@GailRubin is it in the United Kingdom, I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem getting through customs, just ship it across in a dingy boat everything else seems to be getting past customs this way lately😂
Few people could fit in that tube anymore! No customers!
It actually can accommodate a person weighing up to 350 pounds. It's not for everyone, but can be used for most folks.
Columbus Ohio my hometown 🏡
disposal, not "disposition".
So we are going to be drinking people?
Tamara Figge. Actually we have been drinking people for a long long time only this way is grosser.
In funeral homes the bodies fluids are drained down through pipes & into the water system.
In the stacked concrete buildings the coffins are put in at an angle so the body fluids go down pipes & into the ground water. So those who say that they are glad they have 'WELLS' should think again.
Tamara Figge - We ether “breathe” granny, “drink” granny, or eat AND drink granny, with natural burial. Any manor of disposition, of any material, returns that material to our atmosphere. Our bodies consume the atmosphere. So, it doesn’t matter, the end results are the same. Its all in how you perceive it.
If you have ever been present at an embalming and see what goes down the drain there...just saying.
So this guy has three missing ex wives...hmm.
Dixfer. Yoda: "Found them (ex-wives) I have!" ( The little dude points to that machine.)
This is a joke correct?
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Where the liquid go? Is it used to other bodies?
The liquid goes down the drain into the sewage system.
Gail Robin Thanks. Another question It goes to the general population sewage system? what happens to the bones? Is that the remains we enter?
The bones become brittle and sandy - those are dried, pulverized, and returned to the family as cremated remains. The alkaline hydrolysis system actually returns more bone matter than fire-based cremation.
Gail Robin Thanks. Does the liquid go to general pop sewage system? Do you have branch in Nevada?
Yes, the liquid, called effluent, is sterile and free of any pathogens, DNA, RNA, or drugs that were in the person's system. To find out the status of alkaline hydrolysis in Nevada or any other state, contact Samantha Sieber, VP of Research at Bio-Response Solutions. The phone number there is 317-386-3500 (Danville, Indiana).
This machine is new and require energy. But Islamic muslim burial is more beautiful, greener and natural process for thousand thousand years. Allah is great who guides most respected peaceful burial. Explore islam for peace. May Allah give us guidence and pious life.
so theyre no ashes
Actually, the alkaline hydrolysis process produces about 25% more cremated remains than the fire-based process.
So it goes into the sewer system. Hey, let's drink grandpa.
So does all the blood from every women's period
So do your body fluids when you're embalmed in preparation for a traditional burial 🤔
I like this process over the added heat and pressure processes, BUT....
Why is the "fluent" just dumped?
The whole point of this process is that it is a greener way to be "processed" and that it is similar to being processed in nature, but once the body is processed it is then treated as a traditional waste with the bones then being processed similar to cremation.
(Forgive the overuse of the word process, I was trying to find a nice way of getting my point across)
Why stop short?
Why not use the glycerine produced by this process from the fats and make some soap or any of the other thousand uses that glycerol has?
As far as the other bits that remain after the glycerine is removed, this can be dried and compressed into time release fertilizer pellets, then you can add a little of it to your plants and when those daffodils flower in the spring you can convince yourself that it's grandma smiling at you!
I am sorry if what I am saying comes off harsh, but as someone who likes this process for it's greenness what I don't like is how it is modeled after current fire cremation practices and how the liquefied body is treated like waste and then "processed" like waste in the current linear fashion which is what got us into trouble to begin with!
I could go on, but I am sure I would upset quite a few people...
That's not my intention....
By the law of conservation of energy, this is not more or less friendly to the atmosphere or the environment for that matter. The same amount of energy that takes to decompose a body naturally, through cremation or alkaline hydrolysis is the same one. This is just another patented device to make people feel they are doing something for the environment, the only person who benefits from it is the patent owner.
I think your science probably didn't quite clear high school. While the energy to break all the chemical bonds in one's soft tissues are probably the same, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the conservation of energy. With cremation you have to heat the furnace up to a ridiculously high temperature. The furnace remains hot even after the body is cremated. So energy is already wasted there.
wshyang Sometimes I wish people would just think for a fraction of a second before posting a stupid comment online.... But that's ok, there is always room for stupid people like you to attempt to contract physics and chemistry... Read a little about James Prescott Joule, then comeback and argue, otherwise... don't waist my time.
+taz069 YOU'RE WRONG. The amount of cement, wood and space that's taken up in traditional burials is a growing ecological concern it also causes the bodies to decompose anaerobically which produces methane. cremation however is also not particularly economical with the amount of wood that's incinerated as well as the gas used and also the gases like huge amounts of carbon monoxide that are produced from combustion are not very good environmentally as well as of coarse heat energy wasted. this process just produces a basic solution of water as well as a few salts mixed in and of coarse calcium phosphate from the bones. In my opinion as an aspiring organic chemist this is a superb method for the decomposition of bodies.
You could also throw the calcium phosphate into and arc furnace and recycle the phosphorous which is a depleting resource on our planet. just a thought
taz069 I think in terms of emission this is much better. It's not necesarily about energy conservation.
taz069. Here, here,well said.
A green burial: where the body is wrapped in a sheet & put in a wicker basket. Eighter the company buries the body or a friend or friends or other family members burie the body in a nice park like setting, no headstone.
You DON'T have to be embambed & can decay naturally.
What KOH or NaOH proportion?
harag fibladi Hope you have a lot of money!
There are a few people I would stick in there 😂
Is it expensive ?
Are you asking about the machine or what a funeral home would charge to do the service? It's often similar in cost to fire-based cremation.
@@GailRubin the price for that service.
@@rebeccaann5364 This will vary depending on the funeral home. Is there a particular state or market you want to know about?
@@GailRubin I was just curious about it. I am from Texas and I was interested if it's being offered as a alternate to cremation in many places. I know the traditional burial in my area I am from runs about $14,000. But I do live in a rural area so they weren't offering that 3 years ago.
What funeral homes offer this in the US?
"Concerned with the foot print they leave on Earth" LOL Total BS. Do you people know of how many tens of thousand of various civilizations of come and gone on Earth over 200,000 years or more? Do you know how many people were born and died in all that time? Trillions. And guess what, Earth is still here. You personally are not doing a damm thing to this world to hurt it. You can't, your way to small.
that would freak me out dead or alive lol
So instead of being burned by fire, you are melted by a strong drano solution... Nice...
jb0177. Yeah & then we 'HAVE' to drink & bathe & cook with that mess!! Water treatment takes care of it, yeah right. Another crap machine to make others rich.
GhostCity Shelton Where do you think the run off from embalming goes? Back into your water!
I think of it as being pressure-cooked. Kinda like K.F.C. chicken, but with a bunch of granny's lye soap added to the mix.
atty garland
KFC chicken is fried not pressure cooked dumb ass!!!!
@@andre26261095 a lot of fast food chicken is pressure fried so it's not that different tbh
I guess i am the one that still prefers to b cremated.
Retrodiva 1979 Me too! I don't want to dissolve and go down a drain! No thanks!
Far better than being cremated by fire I didn't want that but I know my kids and I don't have the money if I die to be buried cost as astronomical I do not want to be filled with embounding fluid that is disgusting. I'm thinking this is a better way to go less expensive by far.