The Duke of Jin | Sima Zhao's Intent Let's Talk Lore E01
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Sima zhao: all hands on deck, m’man!
Wang: but but…mummy 😢
Trivia answer: A special carriage for a special boy, and something to do with weapons permissions in the palace
In relation to the matter of sparing the Wu surrendering troops after the aftermath of Zhuge Dan's rebellion Sima Zhao's approach was the most suited for the situation because not only their gains would be larger with possible new forces or new labor force that will be advantageous of having as a spoil, but if Sima Zhao had a chance of employing his tactic not only the image of Wei would be more benevolent but Sima Zhao could spread more convicent lies or superstictions that could spark possible interest in possible deserters in Wu or at least diminish their chance of union giving them a chance of escape similiary what he had done in the siege of Shouchun.
It seems to me that Cao Mao's strategy objective was concentrated in stopping Sima Zhao of sucessing in fortify his control not only of the imperial court as well the all key positions within Wei military borders with his allies to secure total control so giving tecnically forcing Sima Zhao to assume public a title of high prestige and attenctiom would put a target in any action that could be seem as treason giving a legimate reason to Cao Mao rally forces and reunitate supporters to his cause with a accepting excuse,in other words,Cao Mao wanted to place Sima Zhao in a position where he would be seen as clear threat to be eliminated.
Trivia answers: nine bestowments are as far as i know are 9 items consists of carriage,clothes,ramp,weaponry (bows,arrows and axe),wine,red door and written music
The saddest moment of Cao Wei history incoming in the following episode 😢
Sima Zhao was so calculating
Atleast he tried to do something but its toolittle too late 😭😭😭😭
So hyped!
I think it was the Guan Du series where Cao Cao buries Yuan Shao's surrendered troops alive. Here it almost happened again. It sounds horrific, do we know how they did it?
You dig a big pit, put them in and then throw the dirt back on top of them. On Cao Cao’s case, he barely had any food left for his own troop so that was probably the only option aside from releasing them
Thank you for the constant upload. One question are you interested to do a lets play series for the rotk8 remake once it is released?
Yes I am waiting for them to actually announce a release date and also share some more info about the game
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Good content, quick question though, is the thumbnail for this video taken from a movie and if so what movie? Thanks
its from a tv series called advisor's alliance (it tells the story with Sima Yi being the main character)
Was burying soldiers alive a common military tactic or war crime in Imperial China? I remember the murderer general Bai Qi doing something like that. Or did he drown them?
Bai Qi did multiple ways of killing off enemy soldiers. During one battle against Wei and Han he had the captured soldiers drowned. At the battle of Changping, he had the nearly all of the captured Zhao soldiers buried alive.
@@historian252 Ah. Was it seen as a legitimate military tactic or a crime? The obvious intent is to scare the survivors into not fighting and to cripple the enemy's capability to muster strength in the future, but it's also a very cruel tactic to use.
I keep getting my comment censored by UA-cam...but in short, the concept of war crime is a modern invention. It is largely created for the victorious side to have a moral standing when punishing the defeated side. Yes, people argue that it governs over things that are deemed excessively cruel in ongoing wars, but you have literally no enforcement and you have people breaking war crimes all the time on all sides. By the end of the war, if your side won, then you just throw the war crime in the loser's face and give them "just" punishment. Meanwhile, the winning side did just as much if not more things that would qualify as war crimes.
With that aside, you think people, who tried to kill each in the actual war, worried about if burying people alive (just another form of killing people) after the war is a crime. Like you are trying to look at it from a morality standpoint which is just too naive. You buried prisoners alive because it was a relatively efficient and clean form of mass execution. You get them to dig their own graves and then after you are done, there are no bodies or disease that you have to worry about.
Like building a mountain of skulls out of executed civilians from razing a city that was under siege was accepted practice and you are here questioning burying people alive...at the end of the day, people just need to stop applying extremely trivial modern day concepts that is not even respected today to events of the past and judging the past off of that.
@@SeriousTrivia I look at it from a morality standpoint because it's kind of brought up fairly often whenever people like the Sima clan want to gain or keep power. Sima Zhao spares the Eastern Wu soldiers to look good in the context of his own power accumulation; it makes joining his side very attractive for defectors. He doesn't accept Cao Mao's proposals of nobility titles because it makes him look like a potential usurper, with Cao Cao's own Duke title and thereafter Cao Pi's usurpation not being very long ago. It makes him look terrible. There's Sima Yi's mass execution of his rivals, which lost him a lot of credit and was exceedingly cruel. Sure, they won out but it doesn't change the fact their cruelty lost them a lot of support early on and the Wei-Jin transition wasn't very smooth.
Yes, war crime is a modern concept, and yes they are committed by all sides until the winner takes all and forces a "just" punishment on the losing side for their crimes but never really do anything about the ones they did. I was just curious if it was looked down upon because from what I've observed in this videos, being cruel didn't win the Sima clan any credit or favor. Becoming too strong for the emperor to resist and gradual takeover of the court did.
I'd suspect that mass murder has always been considered a dick move - in all places in all times of human history. Which is why Sima Zhao didn't want to do it, despite the fact that it was the simplest and easiest thing to do. But they had no conception of a "war crime."