Bridge Over The River Tees (Piercebridge) | Series 17 Episode 3 | Time Team
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Tony and the team get their feet wet as they examine a stretch of the River Tees where local divers have discovered more than 2,000 high-quality Roman finds. The river flows past one of the most impressive Roman forts in northern Britain, and over three days the archaeologists cast their net far and wide investigating the buildings, roads and structures around this strategic crossing.
Series 17, Episode 03
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I love that they basically said “Stuff Mick and his attitude - we cut another bit and got it dated.” 😂
After reading a few comments here about Mick The Twig's Incompetence/Throwing his toys from the Pram behaviour about key Dendro results, I decided to do a bit of searching.
They showed his "No I didn't" Clip on Day 3 as the Producers felt it was necessary for Show continuity, but, sacked him after the episode was filmed. Why? It was the first and last time ANY of the Professionals on the Show refused to give an explanation about why or why not they were able to glean information on an object. Plus, his utterly putrid behaviour/demeanor with Tony ensured he was banished from the Show.... permanently. Brilliant! I enjoy happy endings!
That's how it's done.
You were on the Internets and you looked it up.
That's good to hear. His attitude really turned me off.
Not quite permanently. He's back in the new shows.
7⁷
I am surprised that everyone was offeded by that. It makes sense to me that revealing info that can’t be trusted would be a bad idea and that he would want to wait to be certain before saying anything. It’s definitely more professional than going back and forth with incorrect information…
31:00....”we all look like fools on Time Team”. I love this show and the fact that the cast isn’t afraid to poke fun at themselves makes it even better!
Exactly why it is the best archaeology show on TV. No humour in the Bone Detectives, and precious little on other shows. These guys all know what they're doing and respect each other. Of course, it's a lot easier to be cheerful on a 3 day dig than after a dreary summer of digging on projects on which your academic career depends. The guys Alice Roberts (one of the most charming hosts ever) interviews look pretty serious.
I think it was supposed to be a light call out to Mick Worthington who was not willing to participate and debate the findings of the lab and explain why he disagrees with the results and how to tackle and check and explain the nuances of dendrochronology and dendro-dating rather than keeping it to himself unlike Mick Aston who disliked the British-Romano period that happened in that plot of land he still tried to find ways to participate debate and give out his experience and expertise albeit in before AND after the Romans came to Britain. Hence why Worthington was kicked out of Time Team
And with a host as cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University! ;)
@@paulveitch5870 that...blatant lie didn't help.
@@paulveitch5870it's hard to conclude what really happened in this case because the show deliberately dramatises and preemptively scripts conversations, shooting multiple camera takes of most scenes.
What I love about the TT archeologists is that the really senior ones (Phil in this case) seek, lap up and respect the knowledge of the much younger experts (Naomi here). No, I've been doing this for xx years so I know more than you about everything. Phil knows that he is an expert in his field (the neolithic I believe) and the work and enthusiasm that he put(s) into that so admires those who do so in their own specialities. In life there are so many people who do not do this....unfortunately.
I've noticed some of the wisest experts in the sciences are particularly good at humility because being able to learn from others is exactly what leads to great knowledge. Being a specialist necessarily involves being comparatively ignorant of other topics. It also seems that those who closely guard their authority perhaps value appearances over knowledge and this fundamentally limits their opportunities to learn.
They allow everyone to shine and show their expertise. Its refreshing to see that. I worked in and with academia for several years and I assure you they don't always do that.
It occurs to me that one possible explanation for the non-matching timber dates for the bridge could be repairs over time. If indeed the river had battered that bridge with current, stone, and debris, it would likely to have needed to be fixed, especially it had been in existence for a long period of time. It may have collapsed and been repaired a few times before being replaced.
It further occurs to me that a far amount of artifacts being found in the river could be attributed to a large part of the town collapsing into it.
Also how far has the river moved in 1000 years
Excellent point
Or, Mick The Twig is an incompetent Pillock. He took an otherwise interesting episode and made it unnecessarily dramatic. Notice how SOMEONE was able to nail down a Date on the wood. (Pun intended)
@@colinsdad1 So you want any old answer at all rather than the right answer? No, these are archaeologists. They're scientists, not actors, and try to get it right.
I watched TT religiously as a teenager and it’s so nice to watch these back. I didn’t remember this one and found it fascinating!
Yeah same, don't know how this one slipped past me. Great episode.
“Ratty, Mole and Badger” in the boat 🤣🤣🤣 Tony you are so entertaining! 😁
One of the big advantages I see of digs in England is the close proximity to easy off site living. Imagine being able to see your worksite from your hotel window. Trade off for the rain.
I Love when they do local ones like this.
Just loved this episode. My favourite person is Phil. He’s real 🌻
Love the inquisitive minnows.
I love this show. Never heard of it until a few months back. binge watching it ever since
amazing! there are still episodes out there I haven't seen yet!!
I know, right?! 👏🥳
Sometimes I'm 20 minutes in before I realize I've seen an episode before.
First appearance of Phil, in the water. Had no idea who it was, even when he poked his head above the surface, but the moment he opened his mouth, I had no doubt.
I am just absolutely loving seeing all this wonderful ancient history coming to the surface. I may not have any schooling in this but if I could travel and take part I would jump at the chance. I just can't get enough of this. Thanks
The way to think of the Tees Valley is as a border area. It was the northern point of the Tees-Exe line, the border between Yorkshire/Durham, Bernicia/Diera, for a short time Scotland/England as well as the heart of the Danelaw. There is no way such a key crossing wouldn't be very well defended.
I love our British history ☆☆☆♡♡♡♡
The river Tees has been ignored over the years by archaeologists but it is a mouth river on North east coast and has had Saxon/ Roman / Danish Viking settlements and was obviously a much used invasion point. Much has probably lost into the sea as much of the coast has eroded but much also is probably survivable if a more concentrated exploration and mapping was made.
@Tyg Rahof it is also near to "Doggerland" in the North sea, so the artefacts could be far reaching in history from early european nomads to later invasion settlements. Some artefacts have been caught up in fishing nets in the North Sea.
@Tyg Rahof Another thing about the river Tees is that it was a very natural meandering river, so its course changed over the years. This would affect early settlements I would guess, and mean that until the meandering was controlled by the Tees Barrage being built, that artefacts may be found where the river used to meander, meaning artefacts maybe "scattered" along its old course(s), certainly from the barrage to the mouth and estuary of the river.
@@robharris8844U I believe the deep trawler fishermen find artifacts from the people of Doggerland from time to time. It's a good few miles off the coast though.
@@apb3251 Yes, it is, but it does not take much imagination to see that Doggerland and North East England could well have been a trading or nomadic route with settlements either temporary or more permanent. Only broken or molded by "climate change" hundreds of years in making.
@@robharris8844U agreed let’s hope for some more finds to encourage research
Its great to see another domitian coin come from another part of the uk. My stepdad found a domitian dupondius from 95 ad in swansea. It goes to show the romans flew thru britain very quickly. They certainly meant business.
That's brilliant!! In Ireland, the Romans never got round to us, so it must be exciting to find those coins, like your stepdad. And all the way over in Swansea! Well done - what condition was it? How's the colour look?
@@erinobrien8408 hiya erin. It was awesome i got to be honest. The colour wasnt too great on it untill 3 days ago when the coin went into a bath of olive oil to give it a bit of a chance and i couldn't believe it the coin is almost new👌 the image of Fortvnae on the back with a laurel wreath has literelly just started to come back. It is absolutely hard finding roman stuff ive been looking with my stepdad for 6 years 😂
@@joshfrench5773 Congratulations!! That's so exciting!
Facebook just reminded me that it's been 9 years since I made my way to Piercebridge to view the area. At the time I lived only 30 minutes away❤
The other Time Team pilgrimage I've made was renting a holiday flat in Beadnell, just few steps away from Ebb's Nook ... yeah, I'm a TT fanboy :D
Now living in the South of England, I've got my sight on other locations to visit :)
Great Stuff , channel 4 deserve plaudits for devising these Time Team programs .
Wow, the bromance between Tony and Mick Worthington (Mick the dig) at 39 mins is palpable. I bet the dendrochronology team didn't get any more invites to contribute to the show on camera after this, highlighted by the jump cut at 39.56mins when the producers must have stepped in.
The dendrochronologist did the right thing. Unlike the rest of them on this show, who constantly speculate, and then minutes later have to say they were wrong, he stuck to his guns.
@@JonFrumTheFirst I think that’s how most scientists solve problems as well, they speculate, argue, theorise and then wait for consensus to publish their findings. However in the case of the show as it clearly states in the summary at the end, they got the age sample after the filming, so the producers wanted an answer for the purpose of “good Tv”
He was never on the show again. Theory and debate are at the heart of solving almost any problem or mystery. If you are not willing to speculate or even show results you disagree with then do not agree to be paid to be on a television program that specializes in open and robust debate combined with many scientific approaches.
@@PicassoKatTreasures There was no theory or debate. The guy didn't have a match to known tree ring measurements, so he had no answer. No mystery involved. And if he was never on the show again because he wouldn't make up a date to satisfy the television audience, then shame on the producer of the show.
@@JonFrumTheFirst Rewatch that part. There was a result...some data...which could have been shared and politely but firmly disagreed with.....this guy was out of line.
Thank you I do enjoy watching these shows.
Absolutely amazing how the team deciphered exactly what was going on and what time period it was 👍☮️
Great seeing this Time Team Clasics! Thanks!
I've been wondering about something only a ridiculous Time Team addict would ponder: Do they carry that picnic bench around with them? Throughout the run of the show it was always handy when they needed to have a group discussion.
Actually, they will only investigate a site that already has a picnic bench.
5:00 Philippa Walton. And I'm suddenly in love.
I bloody loved this one.
Underwater archiology is the bottom of my heart! :-)
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Thank you, amazing episode.
If I could be offered the opportunity to pick my family it would be these wonderful people
Bravo!
That was thoroughly entertaining!
RIP Mick….. an odd but amazing man
Fantastic journey. Breath taking finds. Cheers to all. 🇬🇧😊👍🇺🇸
Philip is a wholesome person
Somehow this is one of my favourite Episodes
A far from insightful comment here, but "Ratty, Mole and Badger" genuinely made me choke on my drink! 😂
OMG what an amezing episode.!!!
i love these video's/!!!!
I'm so looking forward to what the new time team digs up!! If I had money to contribute to a Patreon or anything like that, time team would probably be top of the list. I can't get enough of this show!! 😃
@John Jackson Oh wow, they tried a Time Team America? Also we have little to no early archeology, by comparison. Too bad it flopped, though. I wish I'd known, I'da sure watched!
@John Jackson yes, but keep in mind the dogs in the USA were so much more tedious, because there just isn’t the amount of ancient human activity. Yes there are Native American sites, but so many were not permanent so you just don’t get a giant road and 2000 year old bridges. Yes, there are a few places in the USA where their are cliff and cave dwellings, but it’s not to the level of the UK.
@@silva7493 TT USA was pretty dull and generally awful. Time Team just had the dumb luck to find a group of academics who had a combination of charisma and camera-friendliness. It's the only TV show that could ever send me back to reread "Beowulf."
@@thomasbell7033 Oh gawd, you read Beowulf??!!
Thanks so much for posting.
if the guys cant come to a conclusion and they keep arguing, all they have to do is build a bridge and get over it!
On the geophys of the southern field the second, more strong line on the left aligned perfectly with the western most bridge
Phil and tony make time team. Matt and raksha seem to just keep digging as as the whole team .To g and Phil both get excited and passionate love time team xox merry Christmas
Multiple bridges along a river that close together isn't at all unusual. When one bridge needs replacing they build the new one next to it. Traffic can use the old while the new one is being built inconveniencing nobody that needs to cross. I for one am surprised they only have 4 bridges on a 2K year old river crossing point.
My ancestors are Danish Vikings. I love watching this programme.
Are you really muscular ,long flowing hair, handsome like a real Viking, or are you weak and whimpy like a science,mathematics student or something. did you inherit these Viking traits? If not you better not tell anyone 😅
Mick Worthington really became the worst part of this episode, and that boils entirely to his behavior. Specifically, the gaslighting on day three, when he denied anything about a dendro-date from his off-site associate. Yet on day two, while hiding the screen he spoke of disagreeing with the associate's dendro=date. He's been a dendrochronologist for a good ten years at this point in the show and it's obvious he's not a stupid individual. But this aggressive backpedal from the suggestion that there was even a GUESS at a date really makes me wonder what the bigger issue was. Personality conflict? Contaminated/improperly taken/inconclusive samples? Elitism? Pride? Wood wasn't as old as thought? It just seems so out of left field to the viewer - especially since many folks were fine to say "Sorry I can't give a date, there's just not enough to go on." Instead we got this unprofessional four-year-old style "No I didn't" reaction and a missed opportunity to explain more on the challenges of dendrochronology and how science sometimes needs more time. I'm just confused, really.
His behavior was terrible and unprofessional. You put it best when you said he was gaslighting on day three. (What results?! I mentioned no results....I just covered my screen with paper to hide the res...uhh...the non-results’)
I completely agree. You really hit the head on the nail.
Completely agree. Can't understand the people on here defending him. This whole show is about educated people hypothesizing, then being confronted with something unexpected and wresting with how it fits into the greater picture. Mick the Twig flatly refused to engage in this process and instead chose to hide behind the barrier between the public and professional academia this show was meant to break down. And for that, Tony very rightly called him out.
This episode is why Mick Worthington got the sack. For being a jersey and rude about the dendrochronology.
"If I THINK it's correct!" What an arrogant Pillock. His poor ego won't let him admit he was wrong. The ENTIRE episode revolves around getting the Dating correct, and he obviously doesn't know what he's doing. From what I gathered, being a Field Archeologist, it's much hard work that falls directly on the individual Archeologist to interpret what they find. Soooo, he moves onto another job within the same field that involves using outside sources for info. It's perfect for him because he can pass the buck when things don't work out to his satisfaction. And, his angry "No I didn't" nonsense on Day 3, was the equivalent of throwing his work out of the pram when it doesn't work out. It's like he doesn't give a toss about EVERYONE else there who's looking to him for objective interpretation. BTW, notice how TT actually found a competent Dendro person who (Miracle of Miracles!) arrived at an accurate date with wood THEY retrieved themselves from the river!!
I began binge watching ALL TT Shows and truly can't figure out why this twit was even involved from the very beginning. He's like Time Team's Sideshow Bob. He received his original moniker because he was target enthusiastic at digging holes. Good. Stay with what you (and the average 5 Year old with a sandbox) are obviously good at.
@ 13:13 Love the pun "should help to saw-out what's gone on"
Holy crap I missed this upload...great stuff :)
So so interesting!
Thank you.
good stuff⌚team
At 26:28, yay! They’ve got a spindle whorl! I’ve only seen three so far in the whole run of the series… I hope there are more that turned up which I haven’t seen yet.
Great TFS, GB :)
The moment I saw the object at 25:04 I said, "HAIRPIN!!! (or hatpin)". My, oh my, but I would like that in my collection.
Barnard Castle nearby. Mick obviously came to test his eyesight.
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Hello from the Tees valley.
@@dogwalker666 Hello from Tacoma Washington 🇺🇸👋🏻
The Great Pacific Northwest! Have a good day!
@@kathybell7407 thanks and a great day to you.
In regards to whether or not to give a date on the timbers, I lean more towards Mick Worthington totally being out of bounds here.
Simply put, he was on a TV show. He knew the cameras were rolling. I would understand his point of view better if this was just another typical, ordinary dig that archaeologists always do. However, this is Time Team we're talking about. Tony Robinson wasn't asking Worthington to do anything out of the ordinary. That was Tony's job to get information. News flash to Worthington; many times on Time Team have archaeologists/experts been proven wrong with their theories and set dates - this included Mick Aston, Phil Harding, Stewart Ainsworth, John Gater, etc.
Worthington was no exception to this. By covering his computer screen he acted like he was above criticism, and that he could never be proven wrong about his determined dates (and any other critical information he may have had). I don't know Worthington at all personally, but actions like that make him look like a narcissist/perfectionist, the kind of person no one would want to work with on any kind of archaeology themed TV show.
And all this secrecy nonsense over an ancient piece of wood. Wow...
agree +1
I agree wholeheartedly! If I had hired someone to do a job and they treated me like that ON CAMERA that would be their last show.
A lot of character assassination of this dendrochronologist, based on a few minutes of the show. Don’t forget, a lot of guests on the show were primarily researchers/academics/scientists, not tv personalities. Clearly his commitment was to accuracy, and wasn’t prepared to discuss data that he felt was unsound. You can tell he feels awkward and defensive about it, and you may not like it, but he’s within his right to hold back until he’s happy with the data/analysis. Insulting him is uncalled for.
Lastly, I expect a lot of new/international fans of Time Team, who perhaps have discovered it on UA-cam, are unaware that the show was fairly controversial in UK archaeology at the time it was on TV. There was a feeling that the ‘three day mission’ approach wasn’t in service of good archaeological practice. There is some merit to this idea, given how the show often makes definitive claims about the sites at the end of the show, which are then debunked shortly after - the analysis having been made in haste. To add further context, academics/archaeologists/historians were sometimes wary of making definitive claims in front of the camera, only to be disproved later. This could affect their credibility, reputation or careers.
In summary, don’t be too hard on the guy in the show. He was clearly anxious about the situation. And certainly no need to call names or attack his character.
@@tom_123 This isn't an attempt of character assassination, just an honest assessment of what I watched in this episode. Don't make excuses for unprofessional behavior on-screen, which is what Worthington clearly showed here. If he had problems with the Time Team show format and didn't feel comfortable revealing any data/analysis, he should have brought it to the attention of the producer, Tim Taylor, beforehand. (Privately, off-screen) That way Tony would have been prompted not to ask for dates in the first place.
Whether or not you personally agree with the "three-day mission" approach is your own business. That is the part of the point of Time Team to begin with. If you appear on-screen for filming of shows like Time Team to contribute, you abide by that show's rules. Otherwise, don't bother being on the show. Hence, that's why I said Worthington knew the cameras were rolling. He knew what he was doing on-screen, and in a roundabout way, actions like covering his computer screen can also affect his credibility, reputation or career.
Also, consider the context. Again, we're talking about an ancient piece of wood used for a bridge. It's not like it was a super rare gold coin. It was unnecessary to take such a secretive stance, given the context.
@Only Me Nope. This is not about withholding information, it is all about the way he did this in a totally unprofessional way.
yay hi Mick!
Naomi is a living doll.
Great episode I remember this one. Can we have the episode where Phil and Matt both have to give a speech in Latin
I liked the one where they had to trade insults in another language. They were trying to have an insulting attitude, but they had such a hard time with the language that it was really funny 😂😂😂!
@@judithburke1539Yes Phil said that he preferred water to beer 🍺 without realising what he was saying 😀I can remember which episode it was though there was a clip of it that someone put up on You Tube but I think it been taken down now
Think the Latin speech one is "Potted History"? Series 17 Ep 6, at Mildenhall.
.Great that magic.
So good
44:35 Further evidence that Phil is more closely related to badger than human. 😹💅🏻
Absolutely 😊 Phil , Mike took over the dig from Ben
Tim’s message at the end of these episodes could perhaps do with being re-recorded? Good episode anyway!
Why no mention of the work done by Raymond Selkirk and his team, and his theories on the supposed bridge abutment? Very best wishes.
Watling street runs on path of the furthest bridge on old nls surveys even have two tumulas nearby too Betty Watson hill nearby written in what looks old English 🤷 so maybe might be sight of the old fort or outpost as higher ground tends to have advantage.
"... Don't know what John had with his corn flakes this morning..." - it was probably three shredded wheat...! 😲😉👍
First aired 2nd May 2010 UK.
Mick the dig lied about having a date, in the first chat with tony he said there was a date but he didn't believe it. In the second chat he was rude and denied there was a date. What a knob
Wasn't this his last time on time team? For the rude Mick the "I hate my job and never want to work on time team again" Fool
@@davidharrison6535 lol 👍
Time stamps for reference:
30:27 "Have we got a result?" "No...well we do, but I'm not going to tell you." "Why?" "Because I don't believe it."
39:40 "I didn't say [my colleague] came up with a date"
From one day to the next, the "result" becomes "there was no date" it was "a conversation about an interesting area to look at."
Given that the sample taken by Mick Worthington had more than the minimum number of rings usually needed, and that at 45:35 Tony said that wood had been subsequently dendro-dated, it seems probable that either Worthington's samples were incorrectly measured or that his statistical tables were inadequate. When he first appeared on Time Team he wanted to be known as "Mick the Dig". Then he took up dendrochronology and Tony called him "Mick the Twig". In this episode he went from Mick the Twit to Mick the Sh*t.
@@philipr1567 lol
insecure
If it weren’t for Pliney the Elder we would have no idea about the past. I haven’t heard another source used more.
Re: Mick Worthington, I bet the mysterious colleague got an answer he couldn’t and he didn’t like being upstaged. If it really was just a conversation between two dendrochronologists, why would he hide that from Tony? He could have shown the conversation and said, “Sorry no answer.” And why did he need 50+ rings to date the samples?
they keep 'diving' and when they come up, the water is up to their knees xD
The tees is a tidal river, and if you want to stand in freezing water all day without a dry suit feel free.
Tony really landed on hius feet snaffling this series. He loves every minute of it, even the wet n windy days.
I loved this episode....EXCEPT....that Mick Worthington dendrochronologist guy was way way way out of line in refusing to show Tony Robinson the data he received. I’ve been involved in television productions....this guy took the job and was being paid to show data and discuss....not hide results that the show most likely paid for in the first place. On top of that he was remarkably rude in his refusal. I hope that was the last episode he was ever allowed on...what a drama queen!
@Only Me Wrong. He absolutely IS a ‘media luvvie’ .....he is actually on a television program!!! That program was always allowing the professionals to take risks and show the entire process...that is what made the show so fascinating. Archeological work is interesting because it is a combination of the scientific method AND the nuanced knowledge of the professionals. To see the whole process made it real. He was paid to do a job....the lab work he refused to share was mostly paid for by the show and then he acts like a toddler brat to the host. I heard this ended his career with that show. If I had paid for all of that and been talked to like he talked to Tony Robinson was I would fire him before the show had wrapped. I have worked on shows with ‘scientists’.....professional is not a word I would use for that man’s behavior.
Before he became a dendrochronologist, he was just one of the diggers ('Mick the Dig'). That role fitted him much better. Totally agree with you that his behaviour in this episode is way out of line.
That confrontation has always stuck with me and that's how I remember this episode haha. Mick didn't want to be pushed around, but he could've come up with an angle that let him dodge the answer while being "entertaining" on tv.
@Only Me His behavior was not professional. If he doesn't want to give a date, or if he is unsure of results that's fine. Nothing wrong with that. The way he went about it seemed childish though.
He could have showed the date and simply said "this is the date but I don't believe it is correct" no need to hide it
The dendrochronologist spoiled this otherwise great program.
Yes, he really did. Why did he lie and say there was no date, when he clearly said the day before that it was a date that he didn't agree with. Smh
Not useless at all. Please review time mark 39:40 to 40:15.
There was no data with which to match those two pieces of wood. It's somewhat like languages. If the Rosetta Stone had not been found, the Egyptian hieroglyphs might still be unreadable.
This be the difference between making an entertaining TV show for the masses and the relatively few slim portion of the population who work for a Uni, public or private school, an organization for Archeology/ heritage. coming up with a dendro. date takes a great deal of time. In a tight shooting schedule with to camera onsight responses? This fellow didn't wish to ruin his career by blurting out a date for something. The difference between his profession and others on the show is quite keen. Also there is something to be said about others on the show saying "Might be" or "An interpretation is" when dating a find everything is debated and found to be wrong or right for years after the show is filmed. The dendrochronologist in this case was worried his colleagues would ridicule him for being way off. Thing is, you can do something for a TV show. Say "my best guess with a very limited amount of time to do anything like a full in depth analysis* then he really couldn't be held accountable. I think the poor man has very harsh colleagues, professors, or holds himself to too high a standard. It's TT and as such, many things are not scientifically accurate. It's a best guess for entertainment. It is! Extremely entertaining! Yet the intellectuals at Uni and institutions will not take this as written in stone.. or wood lol. It's all up to years of study and interpretation. I feel bad for this fellow..I sure the director and producer would have spoken to him beforehand. The fellow just couldn't seem to understand. Yet it is great they left it in, cause it does show what a die in the wool Uni person would say. They would not commit to the science of an exact date range without the proper data analysis. There are thousands of people that wouldn't go on TT for that very reason. This is a glimpse of that world that is very much not interested in being part of entertainment. They are pure professional scientists. ❤❤ I simply love Time Team. All aspects. Brilliant.
This episode was first aired on 2 May 2010.
LMAO 🤣 ratty, mole and badger 😂
I wonder how much effort it took to get the time team in swim suits and how cold was the water 🚿
If I remember aright, Tony is himself a diver, so it probably didn’t take too much work to convince him to get into his wetsuit & snorkel.
@@DneilB007 Phil is also a qualified diver
Don't know it you know but there's a program between all your adverts
Does anyone know if there is a legal reason for the Time Team only having three days to work? Or it just because that's how the show is set up?
as i understand it. everyone involved agreed that what with other commitments and work. three days was about the limit to the time people could reasonably and reliably give to each dig from a filming point of view.
but the pathfinder team took months to set up for each program. on some it also took months to get licenses to work. all the digs also took two or three days to close down and writing the dig report then took months more office work. you also sometimes had moths of conservation work to do on the finds. so the three days thing is a bit miss leading and was only ever to do with the filming side of the work.
so yah its just kind of to do with the way the show was set up. but mostly it was to do with the fact that time team was the equivalent to a reasonably big universities field team but was being run on a part time setup. they could have done more but it would have become overwhelming.
as a last point most evaluation digs are only about three days or so. so as this was the feel/format they had decided to go with to. the timing kind of seemed right.
@@tommyfred6180 Cool. Thanks for the in-depth reply. My curiosity has been satiated.
@@IHateThisHandleSystem :)
From archaeologists I know that have been on the program it takes longer than three days. Perhaps the actual digging is sometimes just three days but all the "show" and research and such involves more than just three days.
It was always the concept of the show to do as much in 3 days as possible, initially to attract a short attention spanned Tv audience to the history and bring younger people (teenagers) closer to the action end of archeological studies. It worked.
31:09 Gotta love a man who takes his shit seriously...
Or is seriously full of it.
What time start?
That river produced more interesting items than any place they'd ever dug, and yet in this entire episode, they never bothered trying to actually dig the river for more.
If only you had a computer and access to the Internets, you could do a search for "how Time Team works".
Gosh the dendrochronologist was a tad short with everyone. Ouch. He even made me feel cold. Knowledgeable, but not flexible or meeting others half way with his approach, and very rigid as seems he took any questions by Tony as aggression and he was literally throwing his dummies out of hjs pram. Also, why was having such a huge piece of wood with rings on difficult to date. Surely carbon dating could have been tried. Seeing the little fish in the water going about their daily routine was so cute. Amazing and beautiful finds, and a complex and intriguing site. Another great TT. ❤
what I need to know is the road etc for the stone roman bridge... yes im google as I type july 2023
how is this stuff still in the river?.....i would have thought that when it flooded the riverbed would have been scoured and these items would have been washed down the river
Not how hydrology works. Once things are on the bottom they kinda stick there in the mud, a strong flood might move small objects a little ways, but would move large objects further simply because of the amount of resistance they have, water will flow around and leave the smaller objects in place easier than a large stone block or large pieces of wood because of how much water is actually pushing against them.
Guess the rivers are different between New Zealand and England.......i know if that stuff had been put into a river in NZ there is no way it would be there even 10 years later let alone a 1000+.......lol the river wouldn't even be in the same place
Also, the bottom of this stream is covered by rocks. Small objects just fall in between and in this way are prevented to be washed away...
Im from Teesside and the Tees at this point is very slow flowing (its much faster up in the Pennines) over a flood plain. It erodes very slowly.
@@martynnotman3467 agreed the fact that the river bed at piercebridge is covered is silt shows how slowly it moves.
Why did the Roman structures survive in other parts of the world but not in Britian?
And it was goodbye to Mick the Dig
How does this channel have more subs than the official one?
Because this is also an official one, they just upload old episodes here
This is where you can get updates on the "new" Time Team! The old members have come together and have gathered a team to make new episodes to air in 2022 hopefully, but certainly by 2023. The Patreon is linked to this channel, not the original one.
This is an official one.
The guy that was going to give you a date on the tree timbers was rude, condescending and smug toward you. I feel like he was keeping information from you. I hope we do not see him back on the show ever again.
Claims expertise, phones a friend, retracts offer to contribute to team speculation, next day denies or twists what was previously said: From a female perspective, he's certainly not dating material!
I disagree; I support Mick Worthington's line in refusing to kow tow to Tony's bullying. He's a true professional.
@@countOfHenneberg No, he was very unprofessional. Everyone from Mick Aston to Francis Pryor to Phil Harding always shared their thought process with the group and were never afraid to correct their views when new evidence proved them wrong. Because that's how archeology works. Worthington on the other hand acted like a diva.
I agree. Absolutely terrible attitude towards tony Robinson. Does the man not realise that this is recorded. Might know what he’s talking about but I would prefer not to watch him again
Yes, this was thoroughly off putting to me and actually seemed very condescending, petty and ego driven.
MIck does state that there is a date at 30:39 - 30:48, but he then states there wasn't a date at 39:40 - 39:51. What was that all about?
Maybe we tinetean
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Good ol english oak
That dendrochronologist is a strange chap.
You’re being kind. If you mean strange as in ‘I refuse to give you any of the data you paid for because I’m a diva’....then strange he is...laced with narcissistic tendencies.
@@PicassoKatTreasures No need to attack his character. He’s a scientist, not a tv personality. Comments like these are far from the spirit of the show.
@@tom_123 Well there you are again commenting on my additions to the discussion. Ummmm.....
@@tom_123 Oh and, by the way....the guy was on Time Team for years but is not a television personality?!? Okkkkaayyy.....
@@PicassoKatTreasures I wonder if Tom has a crush on you the way he's replying to all your comments. Or maybe he's actually Mick "undercover".
I would think the ram is symbolic of Mars not Mercury. Aries is ruled by Mars.
Check our Team Talk video from the latest digs here: ua-cam.com/video/vFGbZJ3ejX4/v-deo.html
Not full episode
Worthington was a disgrace. He made himself look like an idiot. Unwilling to share information.
I hope most dendrochronologists are not as narcissistic and as is infantile as this (30:10) guy (39:09).
An internet "scientist" tells people what they want to hear. A proper scientist tells what the data shows him.
@@Gremriel ... even if your numbers end up being wrong.
@@topmog Tony wanted a date, and Mick didn't have enough data to give him a conclusive answer. You seemed to think that was 'narcissistic' and 'infantile'. Later, Mick told him that what he was hiding behind the paper was a discussion between peers, something scientists would do if the data doesn't add up (it's called peer review). I saw nothing infantile and narcisistic in that. If Time Team had been sensationalist in nature, Mick would have given him a date that would have fit the narrative. But Time Team never was sensationalist (and that is something I greatly appreciated about TT).
Yes! It’s ‘Time Team’ not ‘Time Individual’.
Mick W said how I can make this my last time on camera?