Indian haha, u didn't even give HD space to celebrate their new engine and 2018 lineup. Good job Indian motorcycle, you prove every day that you are superior than HD. What you really need to do is updating the website and make the interface more responsive and appealing. We need more high resolution pics of indian products
Ironic considering the TS111 and TS116 are weaker than the M8s. Funny how weaker, only air cooled engines that are heavier are some how superior to HD Maybe people should do their research before talking and inserting their foot in their mouth. Rear Wheel power Stats M8 107 Stock 81HP 98.5TQ Hybrid cooling M8 114 Stock 86HP 107TQ Hybrid Cooling TS111 75HP 100TQ Air Cooled TS116 82HP 127TQ M8 114 Stage 2 110HP+ 120TQ+ TS116 Stage 3 100HP 127TQ Imagine having 1 stage advantage, and 2ci advantage and yet you still make less horse power. Tell me again how Indian's superior here?
@@zakkor50 Oh? Too bad. Here's dynographs from fuelmoto, one of the more respected Vtwin performance tuners in the world M8 107 Stock university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/17-M8-Stock-WP8.jpg M8 114 Stock university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/18-softail-114-stock.jpg M8 117 Stock university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/18-117-CVO-Stock.jpg TS111 Stock university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/IndianChief-Stock.jpg Stage 2 M8 114 with a Woods 222 Cam university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/S-18-114-WM8-222-1.jpeg 118HP 119TQ. Stage 3 TS 116 university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/IN-116-Pina.jpeg TS 116 Stock from Motorcyclecruiser.com www.motorcyclecruiser.com/story/bikes/2020-indian-springfield-dark-horse-long-term-review/ "The updated 116 has that same smooth delivery of power, with much more of it, putting out 102 pound-feet of torque and 82 hp on our dyno. " The Data doesn't lie. The TS engine is inferior to the M8.
Brilliant! In addition, all standard 111 Tunderstroke are stronger in 2018 - They now deliver 15hp more in addition to a15Nm increase in torque (compared to the 2017 version)
Matt Cappadona I still think lots of people would jump all over it. Same way some dealers said they had preorders already on this big bore, they’ve have preorders on the stage 2 cams. It’d b the first big performance upgrades for the scouts!!! #givethescoutlove
I Love these bikes but sadly in India I can only go up to Super Chief Limited due to road conditions here and due to 100% import duty these beasts get double expensive for us to buy here.
OK, I like Indian however, 5ci is hardly worth the time and expense. I agree with another poster, we want performance parts for the Scout! If I wanted a radiator bike the scout would be it (prefer aircooled). Now that the line is producing sales numbers bring out a mid line bike with the 111. Something more than the Scout and less than a behemoth cruiser. Harley made changes for a reason, Indian cannot continue with the small variety for long. I want a bike I can customize like the Softail or Dyna.
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Not exactly true my man. The 116 is stock (no $3000) and puts out more that the 114, and almost equal hp to a 114 Stage 2. Why are you concerned with hp anyway, these are cruisers/baggers. Torque rules.
Indian haha, u didn't even give HD space to celebrate their new engine and 2018 lineup. Good job Indian motorcycle, you prove every day that you are superior than HD. What you really need to do is updating the website and make the interface more responsive and appealing. We need more high resolution pics of indian products
Zak Bo they need more dealers.
Ironic considering the TS111 and TS116 are weaker than the M8s.
Funny how weaker, only air cooled engines that are heavier are some how superior to HD
Maybe people should do their research before talking and inserting their foot in their mouth.
Rear Wheel power Stats
M8 107 Stock 81HP 98.5TQ Hybrid cooling
M8 114 Stock 86HP 107TQ Hybrid Cooling
TS111 75HP 100TQ Air Cooled
TS116 82HP 127TQ
M8 114 Stage 2 110HP+ 120TQ+
TS116 Stage 3 100HP 127TQ
Imagine having 1 stage advantage, and 2ci advantage and yet you still make less horse power.
Tell me again how Indian's superior here?
@@FranBunnyFFXII I don’t trust your numbers
@@zakkor50 Oh? Too bad. Here's dynographs from fuelmoto, one of the more respected Vtwin performance tuners in the world
M8 107 Stock
university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/17-M8-Stock-WP8.jpg
M8 114 Stock
university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/18-softail-114-stock.jpg
M8 117 Stock
university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/18-117-CVO-Stock.jpg
TS111 Stock
university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/IndianChief-Stock.jpg
Stage 2 M8 114 with a Woods 222 Cam
university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/S-18-114-WM8-222-1.jpeg
118HP 119TQ.
Stage 3 TS 116 university.fuelmotousa.com/wp-content/uploads/IN-116-Pina.jpeg
TS 116 Stock from Motorcyclecruiser.com
www.motorcyclecruiser.com/story/bikes/2020-indian-springfield-dark-horse-long-term-review/
"The updated 116 has that same smooth delivery of power, with much more of it, putting out 102 pound-feet of torque and 82 hp on our dyno. "
The Data doesn't lie.
The TS engine is inferior to the M8.
Nice. That's my dream bike ever since I was a kid. I will own it one of these days.
Brilliant! In addition, all standard 111 Tunderstroke are stronger in 2018 - They now deliver 15hp more in addition to a15Nm increase in torque (compared to the 2017 version)
Indian Motorcycles... "Return of the King!"
Monster! I love it!
Shit, told the wife I was done spending money on my bike. I lied again!
GT Steele LOL I do that all the time LOL
When does this become the standard engine? The kit is great for upgrades for us with the older bikes, but the M8 is up to 114 gotta keep up.
so if i already have the 116 does this help my chieftain with more power?
PLEASE at least do stage 2 cams for the scouts! Give the scouts a lil love...
I'm with ya, Brother. Thought about us when I saw this, lol.
The scouts would require a much higher labor cost for installation.
Matt Cappadona Still. We want some love too !
Matt Cappadona I still think lots of people would jump all over it. Same way some dealers said they had preorders already on this big bore, they’ve have preorders on the stage 2 cams. It’d b the first big performance upgrades for the scouts!!! #givethescoutlove
Is that power increase on top of the stage 2, or from 111 to 116 numbers?
Joe Dangelo i think that is on top of stage 2 but idk
No, it’s not compatible with stage 2 Bc it comes with stage three cams. You need the stage 1 exhaust and tips but then you jump to stage 3
Please tell the Eurocrats to do one so that I can get this done to my Chief Vintage!!!
Snake Bite ouch thats a little salty!
Get me a bucket
I am thinking to buy hyosung gt250r it is good to buy or not
Want it, want it, want it! :)
legend is back
Indian King.....😎
For science... could I... swap this with the scout engine
#IronIndianRiders approve !!!! #belegendary
I Love these bikes but sadly in India I can only go up to Super Chief Limited due to road conditions here and due to 100% import duty these beasts get double expensive for us to buy here.
OK, I like Indian however, 5ci is hardly worth the time and expense. I agree with another poster, we want performance parts for the Scout! If I wanted a radiator bike the scout would be it (prefer aircooled). Now that the line is producing sales numbers bring out a mid line bike with the 111. Something more than the Scout and less than a behemoth cruiser. Harley made changes for a reason, Indian cannot continue with the small variety for long. I want a bike I can customize like the Softail or Dyna.
Well. They heard you. Sounds like the new chief and chief sport
@@behmer1879 and a good job making it too. Looking at selling a couple of hd's to get one.
me regalan esta indian o les tiro una maldicion y les fundo la fabrica
love it ....
only works with 2018 models currently...... :-(
if its official why not make this the default
Because they want you to spend money on it.
Oh shit..
whats with these dopes riding with SNEAKERS? might as well be flip flops!
James Schmittberger Not all motorcycle boots scream “I’m a biker!” Take the sneakers you are talking about for example, which is
1.4-1.5 mm thick durable cow leather has gusset tongue to prevent sand or water from getting into the boots. Antibacterial microfiber insock and mesh lining, ankle protector, reinforced toe cap and heel cup and gear shift pad. AND is CE certified-Directive 89/686/EEC, but looks like an every-day shoe so please don’t compare to wearing flip flops.
There’s nothing wrong on riding SAFE while looking cool.
$3000 And yet it only makes 100HP. Stage2 114 harley with a 475cam makes 115HP for 600$
Not exactly true my man. The 116 is stock (no $3000) and puts out more that the 114, and almost equal hp to a 114 Stage 2.
Why are you concerned with hp anyway, these are cruisers/baggers. Torque rules.
@@joevsfood Stock 116 makes 82HP and 102TQ at the rear wheel....M8 114 stock makes 86HP and 107TQ at the rear wheel.
@@FranBunnyFFXII If by "Stock 116 makes 102TQ at the rear wheel" you mean "Stock 116 makes 126TQ at the rear wheel", I'm right there with you.
@@thebigzippo No. The Dyno showed a stock TS 116 made 102TQ at the rear wheel.