Talk all the bad that you want, but how many lives have you changed??? All glory to the Holy Spirit, yes; but when did Chan ever take glory or credit for anything??? This man is willing to go where God wants him to go and do what God wants him to do, so I praise him for his willingness because we all have the same opportunity to do what he does, but many of us are not willing to actually do it. Thanks Francis for your willingness to follow as the Lord leads you.
I'm 77 years old. Francis Chan preaches a Christianity that I want to experience. Live the Bible, live it radically. Yes, I want that. Please pray for me.
Please watch more of his stuff, this sermon is much different than his other sermons. He refers to bible passages vaguely in this sermon because the audience are bible college students. He gears his message to the sole purpose of motivating these students away from comfort into the Great Commission, for which we are called.
Many places of employment do not allow people to have freedom of speech. I'm just a volunteer, and yesterday some customer at the place I was volunteering complained to the management. They asked me not to talk about religion or politics any more, which will happen maybe when I'm dead. I've been there for 2-1/2 years and have had many blessed conversations with Believers and not, including several Muslims. The lady yesterday who heard me talking to someone else was probably hoping to get me fired, but how does one "fire" a volunteer who does a lot of work for free? Anyway, it must be very hard at many places of employment to be yourself.
Amen! Amen! What wonderful encouragment! The fields were ripe 2000 years ago, and they are even more today! Pray for my boldness as everywhere I go, my presence will always point to Christ, and His Cross... Time is of the very essence! I shall pray for you as well! Thank you for taking your time. It gave me encouragement to press on today "even more". As The Remnant is becoming more Clear by the very fruits produced, and the sinners are soooo searching! In the Valley of Decision! Glory to Jesus!
"The command has been 'GO' but we have stayed..in body in gift,prayer and influence' -Bob Salvage- "I but one candle of life,and I would rather burn it out in a land fill with darkness than in a land flooded with Light' -John Falconer- 'Let my heart be broken with the things that broke God's Heart -Bob Pierce- The mark of a Great church is not in it's seating capacity ,but in it's Sending capacity'. -Mike Stuchura- 'For the Son of man has come to seek and save that which is lost'JESUS CHRIST
He is speaking to students who are already studying the Word and to be courageous with the Gospel that we do not be ashamed or afraid to share the Truth. God asked are you going to appease man or are going to glorify God. He will get His glory regardless but He already has asked "who will go and speak and tell the people" the Truth. Don't let the rocks cry out, my brothers and sisters in Christ. I feel so blessed that there are radical Christians for Christ. We just have to use knowledge and discernment when speaking to all people. Let Holy Spirit lead you and pray before you walk out into the world and ask for guidance to speak to just one person. People's souls are at stake. You all know either eternal Heaven or eternal hell. even if that person rejects you. just know Jesus said "if they reject you remember they rejected me first". God bless all of you.
Francis Chan preaching was very important because this students are the future ambassadors of Jesus Christ...It's essential for them to take this calling seriously.......and to know the true cost of following Jesus Christ.....
Amen again - You have it right from the Lutheran POV. The impossible conundrum still remains - that Jesus makes extraordinary demands - on top of faith - such as forgiving everybody - that hopelessly confounds 'sola fide'
@MrD2dude I agree with the verse, but I don't think Francis meant it as "living biblically is hard" or "living Biblically is a burden".....we have to fight the good fight of faith! and whatever we do, we have to Work at it with all of our hearts to the glory of God and not unto men. He will give us strength to do so!
I don't wish to quarel ! But, I don't wish for people to hear my brother wrong. He is a prophet and a teacher, and speaking what God is trying to speak to His Body in a timely manner. I endorse our brother 100% (not because he is perfect in doctrine) but because I see a True Love for Jesus/ for others, and he lives his faith outloud, and is not in any specific "camp". So, I write this for anyone who would think I am not endorsing this teaching.. as if I am anything'..lol But God is Everything!
Faith produces works. Yet, works for Legal compliance do not justify a person. If you Love Jesus, and know His love for you, and the extent He went to in order that you might live, why WOUDN'T you want to share Him? To keep silent and to keep that Love of His to yourself, would be the exact opposite of what He came to do. So you see, knowing Him and loving Him, produces works because we want to love Him and keep His commands of loving others.
sometimes. we humans tend to get the when wrong sometimes (and maybe too often). But to think it must never be put on the line is maybe a little unwise, for we must sometimes subscribe to the reality of someone beyond our understanding by His grace granting us understanding.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name and driven out demons in Your name and done many mighty works in Your name?
There is truth to this! But as believers we must rightly divide the Word of God. We need "EVEN MORE" follow Our Savior's example of getting alone with The Father MUCH! This is when we are filled with His purpose, and I have noticed.....The closer I get with God's Word and listen to His Spirit in alone times....I have His Wisdom when out in the world, and can see who is hurting, who is struggling, who needs a godly touch, or a seasoned word. conclusion= Spend much time with God, so He can use us'
I wish i could meet this little guy and pick his brain,he has such a real perspective of the reality of the bible! i often study the word and sit back and wonder if the disciples would even recognize the messages preached today as a true gospel,or if what we call Christianity today would be recognized as a christian to Jesus and the disciples,or would they look at us like a calf looking at a brand new benz?
@blessedangel07 You're completely right. Honestly, you should have preached the sermon. You at the very least made the work of the cross sound somewhat complete.
It is, I totally agree with you, obvious that the religions are primitive, superstitious understandings of the world that we should have shed many centuries ago when we began to understand how the world worked. We no longer think that earthquakes and thunder are the voices of angry gods; we no longer have to scare ourselves with stories of eternity in a bland place - or a torture-chamber. You don't have to be subtle and clever to know these things, so there might be some hope for you! Peace.
It's a question of capacity - not just 'wanting' - If we could produce the kind of works Jesus commands - ironically we wouldn't need salvation. I don't know anybody who complies with those commands -
thethikboy it is through jesus and the Holy Ghost that you get the power to do those works, so yes you would need salvation. why do you guys keep saying that when the tough bible verses get brought up? jesus said it himself, not francis, it is through him you can do these things, not by your own accord, and the Bible never suggests that.
Since I didn't express any 'feelings' or thoughts of the kind that you are accusing me of, you are wishfully thinking. I am Lutheran, and Luther was unhappy with the letter of James as a kind of 'one off'. Luther did accept Sola Scriptura in any case.
This really confuses matters even more - especially considering that Chan is of the Reformed variety - believing in salvation by faith. Jesus spoke of the Pharisees outward behavior as whited sepulchres (works) in contradction to their inward disposition (faith) dead bones. Righteousness according to Jesus - is not just a matter of outward legal compliance (works)
Works speak to the faith. Jesus went after the Pharisees because they held the law to the tenth degree without understanding the meanings behind the laws...thus manipulating good law into twisted laws that made no sense... Like washing your hands and feet ceremonially before entering the table...instead...pharisees did ceremonial washings everywhere...not Gods law...Jesus called them out on manipulating it. Same with the Sabbath
predestination, faith ,works - quite a jumble - So according to James we have to 'prove' our faith with works - Didn't the Pharisees prove with works- I mean they were all about proving with works. Does that mean they had faith? clear as mud.
most of this bible student will fall by the wayside.......many are called but few are chosen......some of them think they are answering to the call of our Lord only to find they are of their flesh....and not all who graduate from the university really answer the true calling of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Look at Jesus - don't look at yourself. Isn't it the Holy Spirit who bears the fruit in the life of a believer? Won't the believer fail if he "tries" to bear fruit? If she "works" at bearing fruit? Don't look for the results. Other people will experience the results as the Spirit works through you.
Chan has an insight - but I don't think it's articulated well - his emotional dramatic delivery scatters the point - because he is always playing it by ear - The three amigos Chan,Platt and Piper are continually flipping between personal discipline (works) and divine grace (faith/grace)- It gets really tiresome and baffling to follow their rhetorical roller coaster.
You must get tired of reading the bible then too. "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers." -Romans 8:29 "But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble!" -James 2:18-19
The text of the bible is the ONLY thing that matters. I find those who have the most problem with the reformed position go on "feelings" rather than on the text of scripture. "I can't possibly worship a God who thinks/acts like that" they say. Well God is who he is as he has revealed through his word. And there is a complexity and fullness to his salvation that you seem to want to ignore because it is unappealing to you. I implore you to read to bible with an open heart and mind.
so we, as Christians can't say anything without reciting scripture? where are you getting that? one of Chan's core messages is reading the Word for ourselves. So, exhorting others to read the Bible is "nothing" because it's not the Bible? actually I probably should just completely ignore your thoughts because, by your definition, they're nothing.
MrArtist1971 if it's from the new testament it isn't of god? I'd repent brother, and then I'd read the book of isiah, and also the book of daniel, the book of jeremiah specifically talks about the new covenant and the reasoning behind it, because of isreals idolatry, they broke the old covenant, these books are all from the old testament, so please explain to me, without the nt, and jesus, where is this "new covenant" God speaks of?
let's not forget in the book of genesis, when God stops Abraham from killing isaac, he says "I alone will provide" do you even know what that means? brother, God is talking about the sacrifice of his own son, instead of having people sacrifice their sons like they did for baal, and molech, God said no, I will send my only begotten son to die on your place, for God so loved the world. and of course, at that time, God said sacrifice a ram instead, teach isaac in my ways, I shall bless you, it goes on and on brother
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Talk all the bad that you want, but how many lives have you changed??? All glory to the Holy Spirit, yes; but when did Chan ever take glory or credit for anything??? This man is willing to go where God wants him to go and do what God wants him to do, so I praise him for his willingness because we all have the same opportunity to do what he does, but many of us are not willing to actually do it. Thanks Francis for your willingness to follow as the Lord leads you.
I'm 77 years old. Francis Chan preaches a Christianity that I want to experience. Live the Bible, live it radically. Yes, I want that. Please pray for me.
Please watch more of his stuff, this sermon is much different than his other sermons. He refers to bible passages vaguely in this sermon because the audience are bible college students. He gears his message to the sole purpose of motivating these students away from comfort into the Great Commission, for which we are called.
So weird to see him with a tie on lol! Keep up the good work Francis
Amen! Thank you! I should be studying for my midterm! And I pulled an all nighter! And I still watched this video! NO REGRETS! YOLO!!!
Many places of employment do not allow people to have freedom of speech. I'm just a volunteer, and yesterday some customer at the place I was volunteering complained to the management. They asked me not to talk about religion or politics any more, which will happen maybe when I'm dead. I've been there for 2-1/2 years and have had many blessed conversations with Believers and not, including several Muslims. The lady yesterday who heard me talking to someone else was probably hoping to get me fired, but how does one "fire" a volunteer who does a lot of work for free? Anyway, it must be very hard at many places of employment to be yourself.
Francis Chan. David Platt. And John Piper bring it! We can not water down the gospel eternity is on the line!
Check out Paul Washer and Matt Chandler if you love those guys I also love those guys too and how they stick to Biblical teaching
Southfire83 if anyone of us where actually "intelligent" as defined, we'd be worshipping and praising God constantly!
With Love KRD
Amen! Amen! What wonderful encouragment! The fields were ripe 2000 years ago, and they are even more today! Pray for my boldness as everywhere I go, my presence will always point to Christ, and His Cross... Time is of the very essence! I shall pray for you as well! Thank you for taking your time. It gave me encouragement to press on today "even more". As The Remnant is becoming more Clear by the very fruits produced, and the sinners are soooo searching! In the Valley of Decision! Glory to Jesus!
love you brother Francis,
God has used you to change my life...and give it a 90 degree turn.
Thank you for being the servant of God. Love you!
"The command has been 'GO' but we have stayed..in body in gift,prayer and influence'
-Bob Salvage-
"I but one candle of life,and I would rather burn it out in a land fill with darkness than in a land flooded with Light'
-John Falconer-
'Let my heart be broken with the things that broke God's Heart
-Bob Pierce-
The mark of a Great church is not in it's seating capacity ,but in it's Sending capacity'.
-Mike Stuchura-
'For the Son of man has come to seek and save that which is lost'JESUS CHRIST
He is speaking to students who are already studying the Word and to be courageous with the Gospel that we do not be ashamed or afraid to share the Truth. God asked are you going to appease man or are going to glorify God. He will get His glory regardless but He already has asked "who will go and speak and tell the people" the Truth. Don't let the rocks cry out, my brothers and sisters in Christ. I feel so blessed that there are radical Christians for Christ. We just have to use knowledge and discernment when speaking to all people. Let Holy Spirit lead you and pray before you walk out into the world and ask for guidance to speak to just one person. People's souls are at stake. You all know either eternal Heaven or eternal hell. even if that person rejects you. just know Jesus said "if they reject you remember they rejected me first". God bless all of you.
I love this man. I love God. I love God in this man. I love this.
'I'm an Acts 29 guy!' I do love Francis Chan
I agree. all Glory belongs to God.
this is so lovely & so timely for me. i hope WE press & tell the ones we know bout JESUS
Are you kidding me? God is with this man
He's such a good pastor.
Francis Chan preaching was very important because this students are the future ambassadors of Jesus Christ...It's essential for them to take this calling seriously.......and to know the true cost of following Jesus Christ.....
That was an amzing sermon
Amen again - You have it right from the Lutheran POV. The impossible conundrum still remains - that Jesus makes extraordinary demands - on top of faith - such as forgiving everybody - that hopelessly confounds 'sola fide'
awesome :)
@MrD2dude I agree with the verse, but I don't think Francis meant it as "living biblically is hard" or "living Biblically is a burden".....we have to fight the good fight of faith! and whatever we do, we have to Work at it with all of our hearts to the glory of God and not unto men. He will give us strength to do so!
I am glad God doesn't worry about stuff like that. Not everyone will receive because He is not called for everyone.
I don't wish to quarel ! But, I don't wish for people to hear my brother wrong. He is a prophet and a teacher, and speaking what God is trying to speak to His Body in a timely manner. I endorse our brother 100% (not because he is perfect in doctrine) but because I see a True Love for Jesus/ for others, and he lives his faith outloud, and is not in any specific "camp". So, I write this for anyone who would think I am not endorsing this teaching.. as if I am anything'..lol But God is Everything!
Faith produces works. Yet, works for Legal compliance do not justify a person.
If you Love Jesus, and know His love for you, and the extent He went to in order that you might live, why WOUDN'T you want to share Him?
To keep silent and to keep that Love of His to yourself, would be the exact opposite of what He came to do. So you see, knowing Him and loving Him, produces works because we want to love Him and keep His commands of loving others.
sometimes. we humans tend to get the when wrong sometimes (and maybe too often). But to think it must never be put on the line is maybe a little unwise, for we must sometimes subscribe to the reality of someone beyond our understanding by His grace granting us understanding.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name and driven out demons in Your name and done many mighty works in Your name?
When he gets all riled up, it looks like he's spiritually annoyed. Like a seriously watered down version of being righteously angered.
There is truth to this! But as believers we must rightly divide the Word of God. We need "EVEN MORE" follow Our Savior's example of getting alone with The Father MUCH! This is when we are filled with His purpose, and I have noticed.....The closer I get with God's Word and listen to His Spirit in alone times....I have His Wisdom when out in the world, and can see who is hurting, who is struggling, who needs a godly touch, or a seasoned word. conclusion= Spend much time with God, so He can use us'
I wish i could meet this little guy and pick his brain,he has such a real perspective of the reality of the bible! i often study the word and sit back and wonder if the disciples would even recognize the messages preached today as a true gospel,or if what we call Christianity today would be recognized as a christian to Jesus and the disciples,or would they look at us like a calf looking at a brand new benz?
whoa he's wearing a tie....
Francis: Live Biblically
The Bible: Live Godly
To anyone who believes that "works" are not important in a Christians life should take a look at the book of Titus, and James.
23 And then I will say to them openly (publicly), I never knew you; depart from Me, you who act wickedly [disregarding My commands].(
Yep
@blessedangel07
You're completely right. Honestly, you should have preached the sermon. You at the very least made the work of the cross sound somewhat complete.
I think he clearly meant to say living bliblically is hard... cause it is..
It is, I totally agree with you, obvious that the religions are primitive, superstitious understandings of the world that we should have shed many centuries ago when we began to understand how the world worked.
We no longer think that earthquakes and thunder are the voices of angry gods; we no longer have to scare ourselves with stories of eternity in a bland place - or a torture-chamber.
You don't have to be subtle and clever to know these things, so there might be some hope for you!
Peace.
hmm it's all about our peserverance and personal strength - Has anybody heard of the Pelagian heresy?
lol. me to
Lol I though I was the only one who try to move things...
It's a question of capacity - not just 'wanting' - If we could produce the kind of works Jesus commands - ironically we wouldn't need salvation. I don't know anybody who complies with those commands -
thethikboy it is through jesus and the Holy Ghost that you get the power to do those works, so yes you would need salvation. why do you guys keep saying that when the tough bible verses get brought up?
jesus said it himself, not francis, it is through him you can do these things, not by your own accord, and the Bible never suggests that.
I'm glad he paid it... I'm not strong or pious enough too.
2 Cor 5:14, Col 3:3.
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God is the Bible..
If you don't believe that works are necessary, then why did you even bother to reply?
Stuff like what? The roller coster back and forth that makes no sense?
Since I didn't express any 'feelings' or thoughts of the kind that you are accusing me of, you are wishfully thinking. I am Lutheran, and Luther was unhappy with the letter of James as a kind of 'one off'. Luther did accept Sola Scriptura in any case.
This really confuses matters even more - especially considering that Chan is of the Reformed variety - believing in salvation by faith.
Jesus spoke of the Pharisees outward behavior as whited sepulchres (works) in contradction to their inward disposition (faith) dead bones.
Righteousness according to Jesus - is not just a matter of outward legal compliance (works)
Works speak to the faith.
Jesus went after the Pharisees because they held the law to the tenth degree without understanding the meanings behind the laws...thus manipulating good law into twisted laws that made no sense...
Like washing your hands and feet ceremonially before entering the table...instead...pharisees did ceremonial washings everywhere...not Gods law...Jesus called them out on manipulating it. Same with the Sabbath
predestination, faith ,works - quite a jumble -
So according to James we have to 'prove' our faith with works - Didn't the Pharisees prove with works- I mean they were all about proving with works.
Does that mean they had faith? clear as mud.
Guess it depends on if you read the Bible and believe God or make up your own religion.
I wish the closed captioning was accurate. :( what a disappointment.
1 John 5:3....
I think the idea is taking the Bible literally. Its trying to see what God has in store for us. As kids I'm sure God understands our motives
I farted.
There's a secret power behind that..... use it well young one.
I'm not really sure it's your right to say that...
Yes of course - the one trick pony - on works justification - I am well aware of that contradiction - that doens't indict all of Scripture
Ironic to see comments regarding Islam in Liberty video.
"you have to work hard to work Biblically"
wow... not true.
most of this bible student will fall by the wayside.......many are called but few are chosen......some of them think they are answering to the call of our Lord only to find they are of their flesh....and not all who graduate from the university really answer the true calling of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Look at Jesus - don't look at yourself. Isn't it the Holy Spirit who bears the fruit in the life of a believer? Won't the believer fail if he "tries" to bear fruit? If she "works" at bearing fruit? Don't look for the results. Other people will experience the results as the Spirit works through you.
Chan has an insight - but I don't think it's articulated well - his emotional dramatic delivery scatters the point - because he is always playing it by ear -
The three amigos Chan,Platt and Piper are continually flipping between personal discipline (works) and divine grace (faith/grace)-
It gets really tiresome and baffling to follow their rhetorical roller coaster.
Yes, but Jesus said that, not you. I'm just trying to make a point that this is the case for anyone... you, me, them, etc., not JUST them..
You must get tired of reading the bible then too. "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers." -Romans 8:29 "But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble!" -James 2:18-19
Don't praise the man... He is nothing with out God... Francis Chan is a sinner like all of us... The Holy Spirit just works through him...
And he just obeys!
On the other hand we all wants to be obidient but the world and its lusts choked us up, preventing us from producing fruits =(
The text of the bible is the ONLY thing that matters. I find those who have the most problem with the reformed position go on "feelings" rather than on the text of scripture. "I can't possibly worship a God who thinks/acts like that" they say. Well God is who he is as he has revealed through his word. And there is a complexity and fullness to his salvation that you seem to want to ignore because it is unappealing to you. I implore you to read to bible with an open heart and mind.
Repent and come to Christ and seek God.
37 minutes. How many scriptures did he read?? None? Then he said nothing.
so we, as Christians can't say anything without reciting scripture? where are you getting that? one of Chan's core messages is reading the Word for ourselves. So, exhorting others to read the Bible is "nothing" because it's not the Bible? actually I probably should just completely ignore your thoughts because, by your definition, they're nothing.
MrArtist1971 does he need to read scriptures he already knows by heart? He quoted them and recited them. Watch the video again
I'll check it again but if he quotes from the NT, that's *not* scripture.
MrArtist1971 if it's from the new testament it isn't of god? I'd repent brother, and then I'd read the book of isiah, and also the book of daniel, the book of jeremiah specifically talks about the new covenant and the reasoning behind it, because of isreals idolatry, they broke the old covenant, these books are all from the old testament, so please explain to me, without the nt, and jesus, where is this "new covenant" God speaks of?
let's not forget in the book of genesis, when God stops Abraham from killing isaac, he says "I alone will provide"
do you even know what that means? brother, God is talking about the sacrifice of his own son, instead of having people sacrifice their sons like they did for baal, and molech, God said no, I will send my only begotten son to die on your place, for God so loved the world.
and of course, at that time, God said sacrifice a ram instead, teach isaac in my ways, I shall bless you, it goes on and on brother
chan the hell man
Nice - elitist grace