I've had my 80 Trans Am for 32 years now, did everything myself except paint, farmed that out after saving for years to get it done. It'll never be finished, I made it so I can drive it now, I'm slowly adding upgrades as I go, next year is A/C and brakes.
Kevin, i appreciate you so much. People like you keep me going. Videos like this show us that stuff happens to people all the time, and it's up to us how to adjust and make it work... no matter what it is. Thank you, Kevin, for doing what you do.
Go out the garage on a Friday night and tinker on my var all night or stay inside and a Lifetime Marathon with the wife...... Damn I owe my car a thank you card.
Two lifetime's worth of wisdom shared in a half hour! You both are so right about projects - break the steps down and the minute a step goes off, readjust. Getting into the SEMA parade is a huge honor, and for your first car - epic! Thank you both very much. See you Saturday ~ Chuck
Finishing restoring my 89 Olds Toronado Trofeo now. A year in the making. I tried to mentally add up the costs, and I got scared, and stopped. At least I didn't have to buy it. Oh wait, I did.... 35 years ago, new.
Thanks for introducing bayonecustoms and sharing the conversation. As a grandfather, I've been trying to find ways to introduce the hobby to the kids. My direction has been to "recondition" daily drivers with or for them to build interest. The GMT800 trucks are a favorite, just bought a gmt400 for the next project. Modest stuff, but I/we have fun and get a useful vehicle without getting the wifey upset about how much we've spent 😂. I think that's part of why Vice Grip Garage is so appealing imo...finding ways to keep the hobby accessible. The kids walk past the GT500 and want to take the grandpa truck that we fixed together. Thanks again for raising the topic.
This guy is mythical ! I'm subscribed to TC Penick for years. I was impressed with the routine and attention to details and the careful work he do. At the moment i realized he is professional, building these 200-300,000$ show cars for customers. Thats why he can't go for hours and hours of his time to edit videos and direct the cameras etc. His videos are more of a documentation for the work he's done. But one can still learn hundreds of tips and tricks from his videos
Many guys I know did nice cars. I advised them to make them somewhat family friendly, comfortable, air conditioning, heat that works...... If they built them loud, hot, cold, rough riding the wife sold them for family expenses.
While I'm not a professional restoration guy, but a professional mechanic, I have "redone" or modified a lot of cars for myself. My most recent a 62 C10 Short bed big window pick up. My accurate investment of time and money is $28,000 including buying the truck as a basket case and 700 hours of labor in metal work, modifications and upgrades. Consider this is also a rat rod appearing vehicle, without paint and body work. A Shop that charges $100 an hour would make this into a $100,000 truck. When I first got the truck my expectation was $7500 in upgrades and 200-250 hours work. Then the "just rebuilt" engine let go and I dove in determined to complete it. btw, BluePrint makes a great 383 crate engine! Thanks for this video!
Spending friday night in the garage working on the car or watching Lifetime marathon with the wife................ I mean.... damn I think I owe my car a thank you note..........
I finally have the ability to work on some project cars and pickups. Unfortunately due to cold temperatures and no heat in the shop I can’t wrench on them. I was going to buy parts throughout the winter, but after seeing the video, I probably shouldn’t. I would probably lose, damage or forgot I had them. Keep the videos coming.
Made a great point at the differences between restomod and restored and the post years to come. I never thought of that with restomod. 20 years later I could restore my 78 LT to factory. I have stock suspension with all new rubber. Thanks for sharing your video.
Why I don't have a fun car. No place to put one. Can't spend the cash to fix one and keep my main vehicle running. Good news for me is I can watch this channel. My main ride just hit me with at least $3500 over one month and it isn't over yet.
@@TheREALOC1972 Rust belt. I'd hate to drive a classic in this salt. I just buy a different used truck every few years. I keep them up nice, but salt and the ravages of time on newer vehicles chew them up quick what with all the plastic and junk.
My wife has asked me why don’t you buy a project car and work on it? I told her it is a very expensive hobby. She didn’t realize that. Cheaper already done.
Here’s an interesting thought, 2nd Gen camaro wasn’t anything special from about 75-81. Mostly parted their front suspension for 40s and 50s cars and trucks then a lot were used as circle track cars. Ultimately now they’re ridiculous in popularity and going to be expensive. That trend will continue. Now the newer cars will be cut up and body swapping. These newer muscle type cars are going to be valuable in the same exact way in 15-20 years. So many of these newer dodges are getting absolutely destroyed and it’s inevitable that they are going to become rare or scarce. The “ if I only knew “ saying should be “ what I do know now” . Buy whatever you can when it’s cheap and take care of it because they will become valuable and desired.
So did you kick yourself a bit for not taking off the cotton from your arm in the intro before filming or just not care? I can't get that taken off quick enough after they take my blood.
I love calling it that, simply because so many ( SOOOOOO MANY) people told me to start with a better car.... it's a mission now to prove that none of them are too far gone.
thx TC and Kevin, nice conversation
Fun watch!
I've had my 80 Trans Am for 32 years now, did everything myself except paint, farmed that out after saving for years to get it done. It'll never be finished, I made it so I can drive it now, I'm slowly adding upgrades as I go, next year is A/C and brakes.
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Kevin, i appreciate you so much. People like you keep me going. Videos like this show us that stuff happens to people all the time, and it's up to us how to adjust and make it work... no matter what it is. Thank you, Kevin, for doing what you do.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad to have you with us!
Cost not only comes in the form of money, but also time! The latter is one alot of DIY guys don't consider❤
Go out the garage on a Friday night and tinker on my var all night or stay inside and a Lifetime Marathon with the wife...... Damn I owe my car a thank you card.
Two lifetime's worth of wisdom shared in a half hour! You both are so right about projects - break the steps down and the minute a step goes off, readjust. Getting into the SEMA parade is a huge honor, and for your first car - epic! Thank you both very much. See you Saturday ~ Chuck
Thanks, Chuck! I'm glad you enjoyed it and see you there Saturday!
Finishing restoring my 89 Olds Toronado Trofeo now. A year in the making. I tried to mentally add up the costs, and I got scared, and stopped. At least I didn't have to buy it. Oh wait, I did.... 35 years ago, new.
it's best nor to keep track of the $ it's guaranteed to make you sick
Thanks for introducing bayonecustoms and sharing the conversation. As a grandfather, I've been trying to find ways to introduce the hobby to the kids. My direction has been to "recondition" daily drivers with or for them to build interest. The GMT800 trucks are a favorite, just bought a gmt400 for the next project. Modest stuff, but I/we have fun and get a useful vehicle without getting the wifey upset about how much we've spent 😂. I think that's part of why Vice Grip Garage is so appealing imo...finding ways to keep the hobby accessible. The kids walk past the GT500 and want to take the grandpa truck that we fixed together. Thanks again for raising the topic.
Christmas is early a newVice Grip Garage video and a new video here!!
Thanks for spending your time with us!!
This guy is mythical ! I'm subscribed to TC Penick for years. I was impressed with the routine and attention to details and the careful work he do.
At the moment i realized he is professional, building these 200-300,000$ show cars for customers. Thats why he can't go for hours and hours of his time to edit videos and direct the cameras etc. His videos are more of a documentation for the work he's done. But one can still learn hundreds of tips and tricks from his videos
Many guys I know did nice cars. I advised them to make them somewhat family friendly, comfortable, air conditioning, heat that works...... If they built them loud, hot, cold, rough riding the wife sold them for family expenses.
While I'm not a professional restoration guy, but a professional mechanic, I have "redone" or modified a lot of cars for myself. My most recent a 62 C10 Short bed big window pick up. My accurate investment of time and money is $28,000 including buying the truck as a basket case and 700 hours of labor in metal work, modifications and upgrades. Consider this is also a rat rod appearing vehicle, without paint and body work. A Shop that charges $100 an hour would make this into a $100,000 truck.
When I first got the truck my expectation was $7500 in upgrades and 200-250 hours work. Then the "just rebuilt" engine let go and I dove in determined to complete it. btw, BluePrint makes a great 383 crate engine!
Thanks for this video!
It has got a stage now where unless you can do good work yourself including paint it has become too expensive to farm out .
As a painter. If you do it right the paint job will last a long time. It's whats underneath that matters.
Spending friday night in the garage working on the car or watching Lifetime marathon with the wife................ I mean.... damn I think I owe my car a thank you note..........
I finally have the ability to work on some project cars and pickups. Unfortunately due to cold temperatures and no heat in the shop I can’t wrench on them. I was going to buy parts throughout the winter, but after seeing the video, I probably shouldn’t. I would probably lose, damage or forgot I had them. Keep the videos coming.
Love me some good car content. Let’s gooo I know this gonna be a good episode.
Made a great point at the differences between restomod and restored and the post years to come. I never thought of that with restomod. 20 years later I could restore my 78 LT to factory. I have stock suspension with all new rubber. Thanks for sharing your video.
Spot on conversation.
Why I don't have a fun car. No place to put one. Can't spend the cash to fix one and keep my main vehicle running. Good news for me is I can watch this channel. My main ride just hit me with at least $3500 over one month and it isn't over yet.
That's why you buy a classic and make that your main ride.........
@@TheREALOC1972 Rust belt. I'd hate to drive a classic in this salt. I just buy a different used truck every few years. I keep them up nice, but salt and the ravages of time on newer vehicles chew them up quick what with all the plastic and junk.
Thanks for a realistic perspective....good content....🔧🔧👍
My wife has asked me why don’t you buy a project car and work on it? I told her it is a very expensive hobby. She didn’t realize that. Cheaper already done.
Merry Christmas Kevin!
Great question.
Hope you're well Kevin noticed you had some blood work done hopefully just keeping things in check!! Marry Christmas 🎉🎉
Sure Kevin, you bring TC in to do all the hard work. Hugh Mc.
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Lots
Here’s an interesting thought, 2nd Gen camaro wasn’t anything special from about 75-81. Mostly parted their front suspension for 40s and 50s cars and trucks then a lot were used as circle track cars. Ultimately now they’re ridiculous in popularity and going to be expensive. That trend will continue. Now the newer cars will be cut up and body swapping. These newer muscle type cars are going to be valuable in the same exact way in 15-20 years. So many of these newer dodges are getting absolutely destroyed and it’s inevitable that they are going to become rare or scarce. The “ if I only knew “ saying should be “ what I do know now” . Buy whatever you can when it’s cheap and take care of it because they will become valuable and desired.
It always costs too much....
so do it anyway 😉
Yup!
Yeee Yeee 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
How come you didn’t clean up the frame and under carriage on the camero before you but in the trunk floor?
So did you kick yourself a bit for not taking off the cotton from your arm in the intro before filming or just not care? I can't get that taken off quick enough after they take my blood.
Wow.... I didn't even notice it until it was uploaded to YT. Sorry! LOL!
@paintucation heh, nothing to be sorry about. Just something mildly amusing I happened to notice.
Good times 🎉 finish each step 100%. Don’t half a## it and say you will change it later 🎉
Us car guy's need sugar mamma's to give us money so we can continue to indulge our car addiction! 🤣 That's my next "project!" Finding one of those! 🤣
Adult beverages are the best part of a restoration:)
I wish you would stop calling it "The Garbage Camaro". It makes it sound like it isn't worth building. Enjoyed the conversation
I love calling it that, simply because so many ( SOOOOOO MANY) people told me to start with a better car.... it's a mission now to prove that none of them are too far gone.
Got a 70 R/T Charger it would cost more than it's worth to restore it. Better off getting one already done.
Be Very Careful!
Maybe first ? 😂
Yes sir!!! 1st indeed!
I dont listin sema. I listin to my own build. People can talk. But it dont mean a damn thing.
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Kinda disagee.... asking is just information gathering and the learning curve... an informed customer is a happy customer.
Realistic expectations?... #1 is, you'll spend more than the car is worth... As long as you know that, you won't be shocked when you try to sell it..
Six figures
Well I am at 60k or so and doing it all myself except for paint, and I need it painted so….
Yup! It's an expensive thing to do
@ watching your videos have almost give the courage to order some equipment.
Paint is 2,000 what's undereath.
I'll paint it with deltron basecoat.