In the film Mildred Pierce, Joan played a genuinely good, caring, supportive mother, and it was Mildred's daughter Veda who did all the abuse as an archetypal incarnation of the spoiled brat "ungrateful child."
In real life, per Joan's own confession to Bette Davis as dramatized in the tv drama Feud, Joan was a "Veda" to her own mother: at an even younger, shocking age 11 seduced her stepfather into a long sexual relationship.
@@JudgeJulieLit , and btw an 11 year old CHILD cannot seduce a grown man. That is SEXUAL ABUSE. Your attempts to put the blame onto Joan is ample proof of what a sick, deluded mind you have. You and Christina make a great team. As I've already said on a previous post, Birds of a feather....
I think that by writing that infamous book, Christina obtained what she could never achieve through acting, fame. If she hadn't written that book no one would even know her name.
Fame alone does not bring happiness; it can be a liability, not asset, unless one is an attention junkie. To viewers of CC's tv appearances, as her regular role on The Secret Storm and later guest roles on well watched nighttime series, she was well known. And on her appearance with Joan on a 1968 Jerry Lewis Telethon where Joan promptly grabbed her hand and yanked her offstage, likely it was as at age 28 Christina in glam attire and coif and dazzling smile looked gorgeous, and towered over Joan. The Queen Bee could not have it. Yet CC stayed a good sport for that occasion.
@@JudgeJulieLit yes I agree christina crawford was a success in her own way and own right.christina has talent and brains.she did not need to write mommie dearest for fame and success.
I was wondering the same thing! These trailers are terrific and it's almost a sick joke to realize they aren't for an actual documentary because it would be awesome lol! But after watching them a couple times I started to lol and realized they're just parodies, very funny ones at that!
@@stconstable You're absolutely right! I heard her say just that in an interview. She didn't like the movie at all and said she was not permitted any input into the movie because she had sold the rights. She said she regretted selling it after she saw what they did to it. She also said she loved her stepmother and owed her much.
This sort of thing should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm not calling Christina Crawford a liar, but, let's face it, her book was not published until after Joan Crawford died. It's easy to say things like that about a person after they're dead because when they're dead, they obviously can't fight back. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
Brian Pomeroy, Had Joan been alive she would have denied it and her fans including yourself would have believed her. Come on........ you are 64 years old and you take the part of your daughter on a soap opera whose character is in her 20's. Joan was drunk as well on the set. Disgraceful. Don't tell me she took the part so Christina would not lose her job. She tried to show her daughter up that Douchebag.
@@glennjones6574 I don't think Joan did the part for the money. I believe it was another slap in the face to her daughter. Besides Joan thought she never got old apparently!
Myrna Loy said, "I think her (Joan's) daughter’s stories are pure bunk. Even if they were true, if ever there was a girl who needed a good whack it was spoiled, horrible Christina [Christina Crawford]. Believe me, there were many times I wanted to smack her myself.“ This was after Myrna Loy starred in Barefoot In The Park with Christina Crawford.
Rest in peace and belated birthday wishes to Joan Crawford 3 23. Ms Crawford won the best actress Oscar for Mildred Pierce. She should have the 1950 prize for Harriet Craig. The character only needed to give you a look to get her way
I don't think the Christina lied I remember Betty Davis say when she was up for best actress and whatever happened to Baby Jane Joan Crawford campaigned against her so she wouldn't win I believe the book is true.
I don’t know why it’s so hard for Crawford fans to accept she was abusive. She was just an actress. She didn’t save lives. I like her work too. But I really don’t t understand people that have never met Joan Crawford curse Christina for being a “vicious liar.” How in the world would you know? Just what makes it so hard to believe? I grew up in a home with abusive parents that were horrible behind the scenes. I had a sibling that was a particular focus of the mean and awful treatment. It’s not so hard for those of us that have experienced the gas lighting, and physical abuse to understand. She may have been a great actress. But that doesn’t mean she was a good person.
because all the crap and lies her daughter tried to sell, have been debunked. You're Saying Joan wasn't a good person, based on a "tell-all" revenge book by her twisted daughter. oh OK.
Why can't Crawford fans accept that she was abusive? Bias. They have absolutely no idea what went on behind closed doors and late at night. Neither do all of her Hollywood friends and coworkers. They weren't there and didn't have to live it! Your's was an excellent comment, btw.
@josephsf2452 Several of Joan's fellow movie star friends (Betty Hutton, Helen Hayes and June Allyson among others) have acknowledged seeing abusive behavior by Joan toward Christina and Christopher. In fact, Helen Hayes once said "Joan tried to be all things to all people, but I wish she hadn't tried to be a mother."
I believe Christina Crawford. She was adopted which is already trauma as it is a legal form of human trafficking. I mean she was purchased after all. And her mother was abusive. It may not have started that way but it got that way. And a lot of people hated Christina for airing out that dirty laundry but that was also a healing process for her and a lot of people victim blamed her by not believing her. This is the experience of many adult children of abusive parents. They're often belittled for airing out that so-called dirty laundry when in reality what the parents are really pissed about is that their child dared to hold a mirror to their face.
Joan was a A malignant narcissist who never met a drink she couldn’t abuse. The glamour was the disguise she used to hide the monster inside. FYI Joans entire household corroborated Christina’s version of events. As did a good majority of her friends and costars including Kurt Douglas and Lana Turner, it wasn’t just that Joan was abusing her daughter and son, she was bragging about it (That’s according to Natalie Schafer, Mrs Howl from Gilligans island). Why, because child abuse wasn’t illegal at the time. But thanks to Christina publishing her book it’s now illegal to raise a child that way. Children now have rights that they didn’t have back then. Joanne may have been talented, she may have been pretty, but she was also a monster.
At 0:56, seasoned aging star Joan rushes her daughter Christina off the stage and out of her rare spotlight, in part as Christina had unexpectedly blossomed into a successfully working actress taller and "in her Springtime" younger, a bright blonde, contemporary chic queen-in-progress whom Joan feared would upstage her and so perhaps reverse their life roles.
I had problems with my mother growing up but I knew she loved she did unspeakable things but I didn't write a book about her. Why should Christina be believed and given credence to she had no talent
🥺😳If it was so bad why did the other daughters say it was an awesome life with Joan Crawford as their mother? Christina Crawford never even mentioned her sisters and growing up with them🙄🤔🧐
Raised differently. I think there is an 8 to 10 year age difference, and Joan had the first two adopitdd during much tension in her career, many men, and many binges of being drunken. Affects of Joan's past abuse by others, and mistreatment, spilled into her raising her children. She was strictly on all four, but the first two were also mentally and physically abused.
My Darling Christina. Christina Crawford still saying that Joan was abusive and mean to her and Joan Crawford has been dead for years. Let sleeping dogs lie. Christina made the book Mommie Dearest and got her revenge she got alot of money from the book.
its all lies about joan hurting any of her children. she was the most fabulous, gifted, talented, beautiful, gorgeous, glamorous, professional, elegant, inspirational, intelligent, kind, big hearted, warm hearted, generous people that ever lived. people who speak negatively of her are just JEALOUS.
Christina was well known to be a pathological liar, and jealous of her Mother. If Joan did anything, it was to give her advantages and support, regardless that Christina was so problematic.
Sorry, but the people over 40 or 50 grew up with a different set of values and expectations regarding discipline. If you acted up, then the nearest adult hit you with the nearest object. That's just how it was. It literally says "spare the rod, spoil the child" in the Bible. It's completely unfair to cast someone who spanked with a wire hanger once as a monster. In that era you got paddled in public schools for whatever behavior they decided needed addressing. I don't agree with any of it, but it is what it is.
No, sweetie, that's not how it was. Sorry you grew up in an abusive environment, but pretending that all of us did in order to normalize your sad history is just absurd.
So true, I knew of no household where the parents didn’t hit their children for misbehaving. I’m not talking black and blue beatings, but most kids were hit. I remember my cousin was a holy terror when he was a kid, my aunt would actually tie him to his bed, like Christina says in her book that Joan did to her little brother, no one in the family thought it as abuse not even my cousin. As an adult he would laugh and say he would’ve been walking on the rooftop if he hadn’t been tied to the bed. 🤦♂️ I’m not saying that any of this was right, I’m just saying that it’s the way it was, things obviously are different now.
Our Joan was a very strict mother the most disciplined of movie stars insisted on the most disciplined of children. But the physical beatings never happened.
@@JimmyOgilvie52 Exactly what I thought when I saw the movie. You hang an expensive frock on a wire hanger, and it ruins the shape. It goes from a formal dress to a dishrag.
@@JimmyOgilvie52 Of course I was not there. I read many things about Joan and many of her friends have said it was true as well. Christina was there. Why are you calling me Grandma? I am 48 years old and look about 38, so I am no Grandma. So long Jimmy.
I’m no fan of Crawford but….Christina already drug her name in the mud after Crawford died and couldn’t defend herself! Now she’s coming back to that well again? We don’t know what’s true or not! Crawford is dead and can’t defend herself!
I never understood the appeal of Joan Crawford; to me, she was not a stunning beauty, and she wasn't a standout actress. That she beat her kids is sad because she did that, not because she was a star.
Capricorn K @: Ah, but she beat them like a star. There were rehearsals, breaks, more rehearsals and then finally the actual beating. Anyone less than a star wouldn’t be given more than a few minutes of screen time.
I have happened to believe Christina Crawford. Her adoptive mother, the Hollywood actress Joan Crawford, wasn’t a very good mother. Beat up the child with a wire hanger? Give me a break.
Joan was STUNNING in her younger age. Humoresque and the movies of the 1940s
Super gorgeous.
In the film Mildred Pierce, Joan played a genuinely good, caring, supportive mother, and it was Mildred's daughter Veda who did all the abuse as an archetypal incarnation of the spoiled brat "ungrateful child."
In real life, per Joan's own confession to Bette Davis as dramatized in the tv drama Feud, Joan was a "Veda" to her own mother: at an even younger, shocking age 11 seduced her stepfather into a long sexual relationship.
It's fiction.
@@JudgeJulieLit , and btw an 11 year old CHILD cannot seduce a grown man. That is SEXUAL ABUSE. Your attempts to put the blame onto Joan is ample proof of what a sick, deluded mind you have. You and Christina make a great team. As I've already said on a previous post, Birds of a feather....
@@JudgeJulieLit But for a reason Joan's mom favored the brother and discard, even humiliate her
@@JudgeJulieLit
I'm not taking sides, but come on! Joan and Bette were rivals! That's something one would only confess to a close friend!
If this is a real movie I definitely want to see it, and if it isnt it should be!
Jesusbuiltmyhotrod, You never saw Mommie Dearest?
I think that by writing that infamous book, Christina obtained what she could never achieve through acting, fame. If she hadn't written that book no one would even know her name.
Fame alone does not bring happiness; it can be a liability, not asset, unless one is an attention junkie. To viewers of CC's tv appearances, as her regular role on The Secret Storm and later guest roles on well watched nighttime series, she was well known. And on her appearance with Joan on a 1968 Jerry Lewis Telethon where Joan promptly grabbed her hand and yanked her offstage, likely it was as at age 28 Christina in glam attire and coif and dazzling smile looked gorgeous, and towered over Joan. The Queen Bee could not have it. Yet CC stayed a good sport for that occasion.
Your exactly right . Christina Crawford would have been a nobody and she knew that.
Absolutely!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
It's Money. Crawford disinherited her. End of story.
@@JudgeJulieLit yes I agree christina crawford was a success in her own way and own right.christina has talent and brains.she did not need to write mommie dearest for fame and success.
I was wondering the same thing! These trailers are terrific and it's almost a sick joke to realize they aren't for an actual documentary because it would be awesome lol! But after watching them a couple times I started to lol and realized they're just parodies, very funny ones at that!
Happy birthday christina crawford.
Chris was just mad because her mum didnt leave her money .
Oh shitt!!!! I read Mommie Dearest and love Joan Crawford. I don't think Christina lied.
It's filled with falsehoods. The screen adaptation is ridiculous and Tina said it was.
@@stconstable
You're absolutely right! I heard her say just that in an interview. She didn't like the movie at all and said she was not permitted any input into the movie because she had sold the rights. She said she regretted selling it after she saw what they did to it. She also said she loved her stepmother and owed her much.
These trailers are brilliant. Lol
Thank you!
I didn't know either of them, of course, but I did live with a narcissist mother, so Mommy Dearest was like watching home movies.
This sort of thing should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm not calling Christina Crawford a liar, but, let's face it, her book was not published until after Joan Crawford died. It's easy to say things like that about a person after they're dead because when they're dead, they obviously can't fight back. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
She's a liar
Brian Pomeroy, Had Joan been alive she would have denied it and her fans including yourself would have believed her. Come on........ you are 64 years old and you take the part of your daughter on a soap opera whose character is in her 20's. Joan was drunk as well on the set. Disgraceful. Don't tell me she took the part so Christina would not lose her job. She tried to show her daughter up that Douchebag.
She wanted money... She got it
@@glennjones6574 I don't think Joan did the part for the money. I believe it was another slap in the face to her daughter. Besides Joan thought she never got old apparently!
@@freddie7145 I think Glenn was referring to Christina. She got a ton of money, plus the spotlight and most importantly revenge.
Myrna Loy said, "I think her (Joan's) daughter’s stories are pure bunk. Even if they were true, if ever there was a girl who needed a good whack it was spoiled, horrible Christina [Christina Crawford]. Believe me, there were many times I wanted to smack her myself.“ This was after Myrna Loy starred in Barefoot In The Park with Christina Crawford.
myrna, just another abuser
Rest in peace and belated birthday wishes to Joan Crawford 3 23. Ms Crawford won the best actress Oscar for Mildred Pierce. She should have the 1950 prize for Harriet Craig. The character only needed to give you a look to get her way
She absolutely should've won in 1948 for Possessed (1947).
@@stconstable you are correct that is another great example
Team Christine 100%!
Then what are doing to stop the long over due movement going on with #ChristinaCrawfordLied if your such a Tina fan?
I don't think the Christina lied I remember Betty Davis say when she was up for best actress and whatever happened to Baby Jane Joan Crawford campaigned against her so she wouldn't win I believe the book is true.
Omg I hear Jem so Outrageous
I don’t know why it’s so hard for Crawford fans to accept she was abusive. She was just an actress. She didn’t save lives. I like her work too. But I really don’t t understand people that have never met Joan Crawford curse Christina for being a “vicious liar.” How in the world would you know? Just what makes it so hard to believe? I grew up in a home with abusive parents that were horrible behind the scenes. I had a sibling that was a particular focus of the mean and awful treatment. It’s not so hard for those of us that have experienced the gas lighting, and physical abuse to understand. She may have been a great actress. But that doesn’t mean she was a good person.
Because it isn't true and has been debunked over the years.
because all the crap and lies her daughter tried to sell, have been debunked. You're Saying Joan wasn't a good person, based on a "tell-all" revenge book by her twisted daughter. oh OK.
Why can't Crawford fans accept that she was abusive? Bias. They have absolutely no idea what went on behind closed doors and late at night. Neither do all of her Hollywood friends and coworkers. They weren't there and didn't have to live it!
Your's was an excellent comment, btw.
@@greenbeans575 and neither do you
@josephsf2452 Several of Joan's fellow movie star friends (Betty Hutton, Helen Hayes and June Allyson among others) have acknowledged seeing abusive behavior by Joan toward Christina and Christopher. In fact, Helen Hayes once said "Joan tried to be all things to all people, but I wish she hadn't tried to be a mother."
Why do they have Jem & The Holograms theme song on here??? WTF
Better than the orphanage, Christina!
I believe Christina Crawford. She was adopted which is already trauma as it is a legal form of human trafficking. I mean she was purchased after all. And her mother was abusive. It may not have started that way but it got that way. And a lot of people hated Christina for airing out that dirty laundry but that was also a healing process for her and a lot of people victim blamed her by not believing her. This is the experience of many adult children of abusive parents. They're often belittled for airing out that so-called dirty laundry when in reality what the parents are really pissed about is that their child dared to hold a mirror to their face.
Bing Crosby also abused his kids. So did Pat Boone and they were all belittled for airing out the dirty laundry too. Sad for all of them.
Joan was so glamorous. Christina is so plain, still aspired to be a major Hollywood star, like her adopted mom.
Christina aspired and succeeded to be a steadily working tv actress, as on a soap opera and guesting on other series.
Joan was a A malignant narcissist who never met a drink she couldn’t abuse. The glamour was the disguise she used to hide the monster inside. FYI Joans entire household corroborated Christina’s version of events. As did a good majority of her friends and costars including Kurt Douglas and Lana Turner, it wasn’t just that Joan was abusing her daughter and son, she was bragging about it (That’s according to Natalie Schafer, Mrs Howl from Gilligans island). Why, because child abuse wasn’t illegal at the time. But thanks to Christina publishing her book it’s now illegal to raise a child that way. Children now have rights that they didn’t have back then. Joanne may have been talented, she may have been pretty, but she was also a monster.
@ 2.29 she wanted me to what ?
@@antmagor Hear, hear! Amen.
At 0:56, seasoned aging star Joan rushes her daughter Christina off the stage and out of her rare spotlight, in part as Christina had unexpectedly blossomed into a successfully working actress taller and "in her Springtime" younger, a bright blonde, contemporary chic queen-in-progress whom Joan feared would upstage her and so perhaps reverse their life roles.
Every opportunity Joan engineered for her Tina messed up.
I had problems with my mother growing up but I knew she loved she did unspeakable things but I didn't write a book about her. Why should Christina be believed and given credence to she had no talent
🥺😳If it was so bad why did the other daughters say it was an awesome life with Joan Crawford as their mother? Christina Crawford never even mentioned her sisters and growing up with them🙄🤔🧐
Raised differently. I think there is an 8 to 10 year age difference, and Joan had the first two adopitdd during much tension in her career, many men, and many binges of being drunken. Affects of Joan's past abuse by others, and mistreatment, spilled into her raising her children. She was strictly on all four, but the first two were also mentally and physically abused.
I want to read the book
My Darling Christina. Christina Crawford still saying that Joan was abusive and mean to her and Joan Crawford has been dead for years. Let sleeping dogs lie. Christina made the book Mommie Dearest and got her revenge she got alot of money from the book.
Christina, although she may be telling some truth, the obvious fact is she’s made a lifetime career out of trashing her mother.
For ju$t $29.99 I will tell you how terrible my mother "JOAN CRAWFORD" was...again. 🙄
I bet if she would have left everything to Christina there would have been this book.
From my understanding, the book had been started already through a publisher, snd that Joan may have gotten wind of it, hence the disinheritance.
@@bduhe219 So Joan did not believe in free speech for anyone who gainsaid her.
@@JudgeJulieLit yes joan was ruthlessly controlling.
I feel too christina would have written mommie dearest even if she got the money.
I believed the daughter.
I believe christina too.
Lou Lou: That’s “Mother” 0 and “Daughter” 2.
I believe Christina too
Is this for real? A real movie being released?
Not real.
its all lies about joan hurting any of her children. she was the most fabulous, gifted, talented, beautiful, gorgeous, glamorous, professional, elegant, inspirational, intelligent, kind, big hearted, warm hearted, generous people that ever lived. people who speak negatively of her are just JEALOUS.
Ha ha :) how old are you, 12? ;)
Ted Watson, Joan had more than problems.
Christina was well known to be a pathological liar, and jealous of her Mother. If Joan did anything, it was to give her advantages and support, regardless that Christina was so problematic.
How was she a pathological liar?
Joan was a saint! She should be treated as such.
Mommy dearest!!!
Sorry, but the people over 40 or 50 grew up with a different set of values and expectations regarding discipline. If you acted up, then the nearest adult hit you with the nearest object. That's just how it was. It literally says "spare the rod, spoil the child" in the Bible. It's completely unfair to cast someone who spanked with a wire hanger once as a monster. In that era you got paddled in public schools for whatever behavior they decided needed addressing. I don't agree with any of it, but it is what it is.
I agree 💯%
No, sweetie, that's not how it was. Sorry you grew up in an abusive environment, but pretending that all of us did in order to normalize your sad history is just absurd.
@@clivecarser7356 then you're 💯 % dullard
@@Marcel_Audubon Hi Christina. Good to see you online.
So true, I knew of no household where the parents didn’t hit their children for misbehaving. I’m not talking black and blue beatings, but most kids were hit. I remember my cousin was a holy terror when he was a kid, my aunt would actually tie him to his bed, like Christina says in her book that Joan did to her little brother, no one in the family thought it as abuse not even my cousin. As an adult he would laugh and say he would’ve been walking on the rooftop if he hadn’t been tied to the bed. 🤦♂️ I’m not saying that any of this was right, I’m just saying that it’s the way it was, things obviously are different now.
Is this a real Movie?!?
No, sorry.😢
@@jonahhordeski Oh!! That's okay. You don't have to be sorry!! It's still very interesting. Love me some Joan Crawford!!! 💕💕💕
@@missigail93 Great! Me too!😂
Our Joan was a very strict mother the most disciplined of movie stars insisted on the most disciplined of children. But the physical beatings never happened.
@@JimmyOgilvie52 Exactly what I thought when I saw the movie. You hang an expensive frock on a wire hanger, and it ruins the shape. It goes from a formal dress to a dishrag.
Of course, you as an eye witness would know all about it
Tom Sperduti, Tom dear, Joan was a psycho mother if you want to even call her a mother.
@@ΑθανάσιοςΚΥΡΙΑΚΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ-θ7γ There Joan Crawford fans. Or Joan Crawford queens.
@@JimmyOgilvie52 Of course I was not there. I read many things about Joan and many of her friends have said it was true as well. Christina was there. Why are you calling me Grandma? I am 48 years old and look about 38, so I am no Grandma. So long Jimmy.
I’m no fan of Crawford but….Christina already drug her name in the mud after Crawford died and couldn’t defend herself! Now she’s coming back to that well again? We don’t know what’s true or not! Crawford is dead and can’t defend herself!
I believe the girl too young to handle it my mom and we're very close I was heaven blessed to my best
Friend was my mother Roz
The lie continues to be perpetuated.
@ 2.29 she wanted me what ?
Designated an incorrigible.
:56 seconds LOL
I think Christina had a nose job. It was way more bolbous
she wasted her money.
And Joan, serial eyebrow fakes.
She did have a nose job. Some earlier photos I've seen one would think she
was eating an eggplant !
I never understood the appeal of Joan Crawford; to me, she was not a stunning beauty, and she wasn't a standout actress. That she beat her kids is sad because she did that, not because she was a star.
She looked masculine as she aged.
Capricorn K @: Ah, but she beat them like a star. There were rehearsals, breaks, more rehearsals and then finally the actual beating. Anyone less than a star wouldn’t be given more than a few minutes of screen time.
The teeny-tiny rowboat appropriately test because cream jelly pop at a jobless mother-in-law. rude, secretive siamese
We'll never know what really happened here.
I have happened to believe Christina Crawford. Her adoptive mother, the Hollywood actress Joan Crawford, wasn’t a very good mother. Beat up the child with a wire hanger? Give me a break.
When does this movie come out and where can I find it?
Unfortunately, it’s just a mock movie trailer. It’s too bad.
When?? Where??!!
Por estos lares es que tiene que caminar la Lady Gaga 💛💙❤️una serie mini serie o movie 🧐que abra bien esos ojos