Graupner ULTIMATE Biplane 1065mm with SAITO FA 56 Maiden flight
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WP ULTIMATE m. OS MAX 46 FXi Graupner 9380.MX The ULTIMATE is an aerobatic biplane developed from the Pitts Special. Kits were made available, and in 1985 the first kit-built ULTIMATE took to the skies. Our model is capable of a full aerobatic schedule in the hands of a skilful pilot. The model is of conventional all-wood built-up construction, and all the major components including fuselage, wing panels, tailplane, fin and wing struts are supplied ready-made and film-covered, while the GRP cowl, wheel spats and aluminium undercarriage are factory-painted. To complete the model all you have to do is glue the fin and tailplane in place, and install the motor and RC system. The rudder and elevator are actuated using the proven Direct-Steel-System (DSS). Two servos are installed in the bottom wing, actuating all four ailerons: the top and bottom ailerons are inter-linked by means of pushrods, which can be disconnected for transportingthe model. The wing struts are attached to the wings by means of ball-links. With any of the recommended motors the model has plenty of power to perform a superb aerobatic schedule.
Clear assembly instructions in German, English and French. Fuselage, wing panels, tailplane and struts ready-made and film-covered, pre-painted GRP cowl, wheel fairings and main undercarriage unit, canopy, fueltank, wheels, tailwheel unit, small items, linkage hardware pack.
Rudder, coupled tailwheel
Elevator
Ailerons
Throttle
Wingspan approx. 1065 mm
Overall length approx. 1130 mm
Wing area approx. 37.3 dm²
Tailplane area approx. 7.6 dm²
Total surface area loading approx. 44.9 dm²
All-up weight according to
fittings approx. 2500 g
We have discovered later when Captain Blaž brought the plane back that in fact it was signal loss again. We will film soon a video on our runway where we will test a few different recievers with a few different radios and see once and for all the range on our runway and what to use in the future. Should be pretty interesting. Thanks to all for stopping by here, for all your comments and for all support. After crash quick review on Thursday. Stay safe.
My Flysky has A " Spectrum Anylizer" it shows interference and WiFi signals. We have a spot where the Wifi interference affect the signal. Maybe you Frsky has one 👍 Salute
I'm looking forward for this video. I'm very curious as to what is causing the signal loss. I have a spectrum transmitter and would like to know if it is the cause of the signal loss. Waiting patiently for a video on this.
Was the light in the orange receiver blinking when you looked at the plane? Just curious if it had a brownout.. Really sorry you had this crash. That bisexual plane was beautiful.
Hey Guys!
I have been having the exact same issue with my flying field in London UK, I tried so many different radio systems, Futaba, Orange, Frsky, Hobbyking, in the end it turns out that it is 5G.
2.4g is no good.
My background is Electronic, Electro, Mechanical engineering.
5G is Too powerful or too loud,
Even if it is on a different frequency, it's making so much frequency noise That your 2.4g TX and RX can not hear each other.
I lost 5 planes last year.
In the end I bought the Frsky R9 868mhz System.
And that worked for me.
Also 5G is like a laser beam, or a light beam, meaning it is very directional, hence the reason the plane always come down in the same spot.
Searching the internet to find someone with the same problem was no good, but they are rolling out 5G to everyone and sadly you will start to see a lot more of this problem.
I was pulling my hair out trying to figure it out because everyone said that it is not supposed to happen. But trust me it is 5G and it is happening.
If you need any links to what equipment I bought, let me know and I can send you some helpful links
Cheers Guys
Thank you for the videos
Best Regards
That is so odd, I have crashed a Heli and a plane this last week due to signal loss! I'm in the UK. I started to blame My transmitter. Where you using different transmitters on the flights?
Ah man! That’s tough, but you guys are heroes of the hobby 👍🏻👌🏻
I remember the yellow H-King Skysword went down in the same spot too. This area is like the Bermuda Triangle of Slovenia. Stay safe guys and salute!
My deepest sympathy on the loss of such a beautiful plane. You will fly again!!! 🛩🪂🛩
Captain Blaz, so sorry for your crash. Hopefully the plane can be repaired and flown again. Feeling helpless and watching is a terrible feeling.
56 Chevy thanks but you will se next video ...it was in milion pics ;((((
If its Balsa? its Toast..
That's funny. I've actually been a truck driver for several years and a huge RC enthusiast. And a big fan of your channel. Thanks for the recognition
Thanks for support my friend 👍
The issue is the Spectrum transmitter not the receivers. I've lost two planes using a Spectrum transmitter, one DX6i and a DX5. Never a problem with any of my Futaba FAAST electronics.
I've had problems with spektrum. See my main comment.
I too have noticed issues with spektrum radios and receivers. Switching to Futaba was the best thing i could have done. Futaba is expensive, but definitely worth it.
Futaba is the best but a dx6I and dx5 is the way low end and old tech of what spektrum has. My DX 9 never fails but your right I have 100% faith in my T18SG
Yea i have had the same...its the Tx not the Rx...
Yes Futaba is just fantastic gear.
I have no doubts , whatsoever , that the fine engineers and technicians at Petrincic Aviation will restore to flight , and improve the performance of this wonderful aeroplane ! The biggest of big salutes !
Top Gun... Maverick that was the best flying I have ever seen right up to the point you got killed!
Great to see you two are Okay and healthy. Stay safe and well.
Sorry for your loss Captain Blaz. I know you put a lot of time and thought into rebuilding a plane. I admire your skills and patients. How you keep so calm around your brother is still a mystery to me however. 😝😝😝
Sorry for your loss! That was a beautiful plane! Sounds like there is something going on in that area of the field to lose so many planes in the same spot and all with different transmitters and receivers. Your own little Bermuda Triangle!
Salute Captain Blaz and Pilot Robert. Such a nice bi plane,that crash was hard to watch. I'm sure Captain Blaz will work his magic on this hey
Hi captains! Sorry for the loss capt blaz ☹ awesome flight regardless off the unfortunate! I had the very same problem when a telephone mast appeared at the edge of my field , last stop was graupner hott transmitter and receiver.... and it was a game changer for my flying. I use an mz-12 pro and can fly over and around the mast with my grand tundra lol. RIP graupner!!🙈
I really love watching you guys,as you two were meant to be together like ying and yang , but I’m very sorry to see your pains of losing the plane especially after Captain Blaz did all that wonderful work to it and was having such a good flight , I totally agree with the fact that there’s definitely a signal loss in that exact area, it’s just like my cellphone loses it connection only in this one particular spot, but if I move 2 feet in any direction it’s back to full signal, it’s definitely a heart breaking feeling to watch such a beauty take such a crash because of something very unnecessary and shouldn’t have ever happened !! Hopefully she will fly again !! Keep up the Great Work and Vids !! 👍👍
Very, very sorry to see the crash my friends...I hope you guys figure out what's going on with the field. We have the same sort of thing going on in Las Vegas (lots of crashes at both flying fields due to apparent signal loss, even on 2.4 gHz). I hope you are staying safe and healthy and I look forward to seeing what you come up with. PLEASE ask Blaz to repair that bird...what a beautiful old classic! All the best from your friend in the Mojave Desert!
Heart breaking Capt. Blaz was having such a nice flight with that beautiful bird.
Oooohh nooo it was flying so well. My heart sank as it went in. And my favorite bipe of all time so much that i have 3 versions
Really feel for you there Captain. Nice easy circuits, nothing extreme on a test flight, man oh man. Get shut of your Spektrum! I have so many issues with it just in the workshop, it's now all replaced with Futaba Fasst. Works perfect every time. Stay safe my friends, from York, UK.
Always love a Saito. The sound and smoke they make. Pilot Blaz will be happy again.
SAITO 4 Strokes are great engines. Beautiful at idle. I have two FA.62 SAITOs that are just wonderful. Stay safe. Watching from home IN USA
That was such a nice plane! Sad to see it crash. Sorry for your loss 😢
I can see another series of Aircrash Investigation coming to Slovenia soon !!
The Graupner Catalog was our BIBLE in the 70's n 80's!!
Now I've read a couple of comments while you were talking and I know it ends in tears, talk of spoilers 😁
Chey, don't forget the Carpenters. Big salute!
Oh didn't see that coming, thanks for keeping the crash a secret, it broke my heart at the same time as you.
That is a sad lost. What a BEAUTIFUL plane. Never since those biplane before.
All the best to you both pilots on the next flights.
Salute from Kuching Sarawak 🇲🇾
🍄🌈❤🧡💜💙💚💛🌈🍄
Thought I had signal loss, turned out I had a bad pot on my Spektrum Tx. Check your transmitter sticks and thanx for all the great videos!
Any light you can shed on the mystery would be very useful.I have had a few failures with orange park fly receivers,but usually nothing more than a momentary loss of control at extreme range.It might be something to do with the stubby antenna of the D.X.8,particularly if you inadvertantly point the tip of the antenna at the model.Obviously the motor cut when signal loss occurred,it would not be easy to recover even if the signal was recovered.Believe me,Ultimates glide like loaded bricks!
Wow, what a great sound. I am sure you will repair the plane and fly again. Thanks for sharing. What you see is what you get! See you later!
Hey hard luck guys. Looking forward to the testing.
I am so jealous of you in Slovenia. We are in Lockdown in Britain so no model flying for weeks. Before that we had torrential rain and gale force winds.
Our guys have had “dead spots” at our club too, men. Recover what you can... and give us an even better plane next time!! Thanks for bringing us along!👍
That's some mighty bad tasting medicine right there Blaz.
Don't know what to say ? I am speechless !
Guys keep up the great work. Very entertaining and fun to watch. You do make the hobby fun. And keep up your conversation it is great to hear how other people talk and express themselves. Just be who you are.. Thanks
S Happens. Keep your head up high Blaz.
Big Salute from Tennessee! Just found your channel. Stay safe and keep flying! AILERONS!!!!
Invest in Jumper T16 transmitter. I hear they are the best as of 2020.
😭😭😭 I feel bad and sad for you Captain! We don't know the expiration date , but that's our Hobby.
at our field we call it the Orange death. I quit using them years ago and have never had it happen again
Orange of death ! I phased my Orange rx out a few years ago and my signal loss problems disappeared ! (Dx9 and now use Lemon rx)
In this case; One does got what you pay for on Orange Rx and Lemon Rx receivers.
Slovenia's Bermuda Triangle !!!!!!
Same problem at my place. A spot of signal lost. I've had change to r9m and crossfire of 900mhz. I don't trust 2.4ghz any more.
Loved my plane.
Wasn’t expecting that! That sucks, such a beautiful plane!
No do pitche! This is what made me crazy. I know exactly cpt. Blaž feeling!
Hello, I have two notes for you regarding signal loss.
First, as a test, you two, one holds the radio and the other walks with the model airplane in his hands to see how far he will lose the signal.
Second, if the receiver's antennas are hidden inside the cockpit, that may be the problem, try to leave the antennas right outside, and keep them as far away from the engine as possible.
good flights for us all.
Look at Dis😆. WOW. Something is going on for so many receivers to fail. Such a bad feeling when a plane is flying good then crashing. Know the feeling. Hope you get it resolved. ✈😎💗
HAHA pilot robert is so fired up on this one
The Slovenian Bermuda Triangel. I screamed Nooo watching the bisexual bird go down. Sorry for your loss Captain Blaž! 😔
You should do a field test with a plane in hand at different spots while someone remains in the pilot area with the transmitter. I recall you have another blind spot, on the other side of the runway close to the power line.
Yeah… Damn.. Dis is it dear Brothers .. The orange death hit. There must be a connection between orange receivers and interferences of some nature in some spots of the fields. and a lot of metal parts on the plane I'm guessing - Salute to Captain Blaz and to that great Bipe.
so sorry about the crash capt blaz ,it was flying so good eh! hope you can fix it!
I'm living my flying life through you guys just now, keep them coming, brilliant. Although you are a bad influence and have caused me to add to my fleet, lol
@Craig McVeigh - do you always rejoice over the misfortunes of others, you asocial turd? They just lost a very nice plane and your comment is "brilliant," and "lol?" I don't understand morons like you.
Craig McVeigh ahahhahha thanks!! Just enjoy it :))
Brutus Barnabus damn take it easy.. No need to so rude. All fun here in this hobby and its all about being nice to each other. Things like this happens and u see in the comments that they are laughing it off. So take a chill pill and enjoy. Thank you
@@brutusbarnabus8098 I wasn't rejoicing over anyone's misfortune, artard. I was celebrating the joy of watching these fine Aviators living their best lives while I'm stuck indoors in lockdown mode. The "brilliant" I was talking about is their content and entertainment. Mr No Content made up account to Troll people! I'll bet your TomleyRC or some loser sore about honesty. Get a life and keep your negativity to yourself. Peace
@@elpunto231 I think you guys are great and as an RC pilot every crash sucks! Keep the great videos coming
I noticed from the cameras view, the plane was almost behind the flag pole when it lost signal. Metal will play havoc on 2.4 (from what I'v read) if that pole is indeed metal.
Could be on to something there. Ive only ever had signal issues in one spot flying at a sporting field where there are metal light poles that get between the tx and rx.
Wow.. I’m sorry and I know the feeling. It was a great one.
That needs to go on a tshirt.. What Pilot Robert said.. "Once you see the smoke, that's it. Hey?" For the glow enthusiasts.
So sorry about the signal loss issues - there is nothing more frustrating. My local flying field has issues with SPEKTRUM protocols, regardless of the reciever brand(Stektrum, Orange, Lemon, etc.). Switching to Futaba or Graupner with signal hopping technology was our fix. Best of luck men, stay safe, stay healthy, fly high!✌😎
Raul Odin that is all strange here on runway ;(
Yes Captain Blaz, it is strange and so frustrating. I can't tell you how many times I've seen pilots holding their transmitters up yelling, "I've got nothing!!" as we watched the planes go in. And always in the same area!
With wifi, 5G, 2.4G, Bluetooth, etc., the air is getting so polluted with different radio signals, it's not a surprise this is happening more frequently. 😣
Spektrum DSMX also uses the hopping tech. They changed it years ago!!!
@@scotabot7826, respectfully, my Understanding is they Spektrum hops between just two frequencies, Futaba, Graupner, and several others hop between dozens of frequencies. At least that's how it was explained to me by others in our local club who researched options to overcome the Spektrum brown outs that plague our flying field. Is that inaccurate? All I can tell you is those who switched away from Spektrum are no longer experiencing brown outs, while Spektrum pilots continue to do so.
@@scotabot7826, and incidentally, I still own my original Gen 1 DX7 and a Gen 2 DX8 which I use and love away from my powered flying field. They have become my slope gliders and "UMX" model transmitters. ✌😎
4 Stroke Engines in Planes sound amazing. Never gets old for me at all. I love em? I am a Nitro head through n through. No E-Word here Captain's Any ?'s WOW how did you lose signal again? That is crazy.
I could see the excitement on Capt. Blaz face on how cool this plane is ............it was . I'm feeling the loss to Capt.
Sorry to see that guys. Still got 3 or 4 more weeks lockdown here in Australia at least and my planes are all lined up ready to fly......
No edited video is the best!! Definitely signal loss. Have to keep the planes closer now. Keep the passion gentlemen!
Beautiful day in Slovenia
Hey my friends, on our place we also had a area with many radio errors , all spektrum never happend with Hitech (aurora9) im not a spektrum hater, use a 6i for my small planes. But always Hitech for 50-100 cc. Hope we all will be well and have a flying awesome sommer :) Max
Have had an ultimate for over 20 years. Haven’t flown it in about 10. Your video has forced me to get it flight ready. Has a os 60fx mounted up front.
Love your channel dad and I watch it all the time capitain Robert I got the harnish that you were because of your injury because I only have use of one hand
The flight was going so well that the crash took me by surprise!! Very sorry to see that happen. Perhaps you guys should run some signal tests in that area? One of you bring a plane to the area while the other runs the radio? Definitely could be some signal interference. Again sorry to see such a nice plane crumpled on the ground, brothers.
Your antenna on your transmitter is positioned horizontal, with the tip to the left. That means that there is a blind spot of the transmittersignal at your right. That is maybe the reason that you lost the signal on the right, when you fly far to the right.
It is maybe better to position the antenna of the transmitter vertical upwards.
It has nothing to do with the antennas. It's because spectrum transmitters are garbage.
Salute from the UK. Sorry to see your plane go in like that Captain Robert and Captain Blaz!. There is nothing worse than to see a beautiful plane crash. I hope you can find the cause of this reoccurring issue so you don't have the constantly worry all the time!. I see Spektrum make a Flight Log device that logs signal issues, this may help?.
I'm glad you didn't say crash in the title. It was a real surprise. Damn. Maybe you guys should do some signal testing in that area.. Very sad my brothers. 😥🛩😪
Ohhhhhhhh that hit hard boys .no fixing that one , so what to say ??? Ohhhhhhhh shiiit captain blaz....
Oh no! I feel your pain. I'll be watching for the follow-up video. Hope you can find what went wrong. (NC USA)
I would highly recommend to do a range check. Walk your plane over that area that you get signal loss,while the transmitter stays where you fly and film your beautiful fun videos and see where you start getting the signal loss. Check where are antennas near by and investigate if they cross paths with the signal loss area. Good luck
Futaba , never had a lost signal.( Pozdrav. Koristite Futabu, spasit ce te mnogo modela. Inace super ste i samo nastavi te)
Crossfire😎
I had problem with signal on Spectrum radio too. Now I have Jeti model radio and I have no problem.
So sorry to see that Captain Blaz, maybe try pointing the antenna of the transmitter vertically instead of sideways? Maybe it will help? Good luck figuring out what's going on at your field gentlemen. Sorry again. Salute from USA.
Beautiful plane! Sorry it lost signal and crashed! Hopefully it survives well enough to salvage and put it back together
Ah Blaz, I feel for you. Those Orange receivers with the long aerials at 90 degrees are very good. I have no problems with Spektrum/Orange as long as the aerials are well positioned. For quads, I use Frksy (R9 and 2.4) as Spektrum is rubbish with the carbon frames. At my old flying club we had a 'black hole' area where a 2.4 signal was sometimes lost, regardless of manufacturer of TX/RX. It appeared it was something military possibly causing it but the issue was never resolved. I look forward to the range test video.
Sorry for your loss. I am sure you guys will sort it out. I am sure there are lots of things that can contribute to signal loss. I have lost planes, crashed cars and damaged boats due to issues with different radio systems that worked perfectly in the same area for a long time. I don't think brand bashing helps anyone as any system can have problems and won't help someone that just crashed their plane feel any better. Good luck sorting it out and cheers from Sydney, Australia
Blaz, so sorry for the loss. I have a newer DX 8g2 and so far haven’t lost one to brown-out. I had an ultimate that looked similar. Motor flamed out on takeoff and it busted in half on the landing. I have another ultimate , a Seagull .90-.120 Waiting to be finished. One day.
Can't wait till the scooter is complete. No more walking!
Telemetry is your friend :-) Just need the right receiver. You can see the condition of the signal while you are doing your range check. Someone holds your plane in the portal of doom while you see whats going on :-)
I was screaming “PULL UP PULL UP” did not see impact had eyes closed 😞
There's been a moderate solar storm for the last couple of days.
It's enough to jam radio signals.
Signal jamming from UFO
Lol keep up all the great videos... Hopefully with a little TLC.. she'll be back in the air 💓
Hopefully the damage isnt too bad, maybe you can rebuild. I blame 2.4. I have had nothing but problems with 2.4 since I got back into flying. Currently working towards getting another 72mhz RX on my old channel.
Its not from Hobbyking!!!!!! Lol. Nice to see something different boys! Happy flying, we have another 4 days of lockdown then we can fly again at last! Nice work Blaž
robert and blaz i have hitec radio and for me is bullet proof , but the other month or more back i was flying and was not that far but was high and climbing all of a sudden nothing everything froze for around 3 seconds then came back , i shit myself i thought its all over but i got signal back and landed straight away , now i have flown two morw times since that but stayed so close it was not much fun , so i am convinced there is something "NEW" that is interfeeing with the 2.4 GHZ Throughout all of the ranges of it yes could be this 5G but cant be certain, so now i got the ezio glider to do some testing for hight and long range 100-350 meters away unlesss there is some new sattilltes thats sending conflicting signals down to earth and we fly straight through it causing loss of singnal and battery to also could have droped as a result and caused brown out where the reciever shuts down this information ive seen on rc forums and many many pilots are having same problem , to be honest i think this is being done on purpose to stop the use of fpv and drones as many many other experts are saying but i just read everything and make my own judgements as im no expert but i know when something is fishy and not normal my reciever is optima7 hitec with telemetry Flash7 one of the best cheap radios of all tine and also have had similare signal losses in the past but cuolpe years back with futaba 6 channel , one other thing i read is if the servo is drawing too much amps more than 1.5 this can cause bec to come on but i found that only on electro models form some youtuber but should not have effected nitro planes unless the battery came loose or died as has damaged cells i never use lipo for reciever power on glow planes always nmhi 2200mha and always fully charged , hope some this info helps so sad to see this model hit the deck like that and to see you guys disapointed after so much effort goes in ,cheers from me salute,
7:40 - Fight! 😁
6:59 oh no F
I was hoping it's a 3D biplane haha
damn that's a long walk
lol UFO parked over that area or signal jammer
Sorry for your loss, Captain Blaž and Pilot Robert; such a pity!
Your flying field appears to be fairly far removed from everything, yet there’s apparently a sporadic 2.4GHz signal out there that’s comparable or greater in strength to your transmitter that’s causing the receiver to enter the “fail-safe“ mode; it shut down the Saito and held the surfaces at neutral, flying the Ultimate Biplane into the ground.
Weird.
Excellent plane ! missing the Salute ...maybe cause...:)... Seriously though get a guy with a spectrum analyzer..a ham radio guy to check for signal interference...love from Maryland to the Bros
You guys would love yourselves a Taranis..
I used to fly Orange RX and spektrum, but i switched to Taranis because of the signal.
Oh Captain Blaz! You looked so happy to be flying a IC engined plane. So sorry.
I agree with a comment from another post about your antenna angle. The signal emits from the sides of the antenna to probably 80 - 85 degrees towards the tip, the signal getting less power towards the tip. So you have a dead zone directly in line with the tip. Try turning the Tx antenna so it points vertically. I have had signal loss for exactly the same reasons, so I feel the pain.
There is probably some tight beam microwave transmitter signal for a cell network crossing the land in that area, that the weak signal from your transmitter cannot overcome. I notice there is a comms tower on the top of the mountain, so something may be transmitting to that.
Amazing work again, nice😀😀😀
Not much else you can do, except a 360 radio check or quit using that dx8. It was going so well and looked great CPT Blaz, great zooming Pilot Robert, Jeff in LA USA
MY FAVE. SAITO
I have been using the newer Turnigy i6 tx ($50) and turnigy/flysky 6ch dual antenna receivers ($10) and have not had one glitch, even at places where it's normally bad. I also have the newer version Turnigy 9x which also uses the dual antenna receivers and had no issues with that one either, where my older 9x and flysky 6ch and spektrum have had signal issues. They are both so cheap they may be worth a try.
I'm building the Discontinued Tower Hobbies Version of the Ultimate and putting a Brand New Saito 91 Golden Knight Engine in it........Wish me Good Luck!
Good luck my friend.
I remember watching a guy tear up the sky with one of these! Such a cool plane. That crash made my heart sink.
I think that spot out there is a portal to hell. Very sad to see this one come down so hard. Perhaps the military is running strong radar through that valley and is in that area blocking out weaker signals like from the RC control unit. Salute to you both! Captain Blaz, stay positive my friend.