One of my Dad's favorite sayings was "Once it's over it ain't so bad". Very fitting for this ride so thanks for taking one for the team. Your effort was much appreciated!
I have an ebike with a 48v, 13Ah battery and a 500w motor, bike is 70lbs. I’m a 54 year old, 170lb male and I have gotten 40 miles on a ride with 2 bars (of 5) left. I use pedal assist 0-2 most of the time, my wife has a step through bike similar weight and at 40miles her battery is pretty much done, she is in pedal assist 2 all the time. The deal is if her battery dies we can switch, so the battery anxiety is all mine, lol. I think the best thing about ebikes is that you can choose how much exercise you want to get, we go further and longer with less pain than we could otherwise, which makes it far more enjoyable.
The Ebike-King I even have our local ebike shop 🚴 watching now because he wanted to know where i be finding out about so many different bikes 🚲 keep doing what you do..
Great video! Sometimes I go on these slow group bike rides (300+ bikes) in both the SF Bay Area & in Vegas, and I totally almost get those high advertised ranges on most ebikes. However, at 6'1"/235 lbs., in the real world, (you're right) that advertised range number is cut up to 50%. So, bikes that I only ride during these events, only need to be charged every two to four of those 8 to 15 mile big party rides.
The Torque sensor kind of changed what you would normally expect from an ebike range test, the motor was probably always providing some power for you with no actual speed cutoff. Where a cadence sensor equipped bike PAS 1 would assist up to it's cutoff speed then any effort would be all the rider, with the PAS keeping you from dropping below a certain speed. Maybe a test with a cadence sensor bike in the future
Nice review. I can remember when I could ride my normal bicycle for 100 miles non stop in around 5 hours. I don't think I could sit on a bicycle even with e assist for 100 miles at one sitting. Now let me hop on the Versys in your garage and I'd be good to go 😎.
I used to do that not so long ago but can't now. And Since I found out about e-bikes, I wouldn't. The fun part is now my wife can ride with me and keep up. 🙃
I will soon finish a range test on my Aventon Aventure 2, and based on early data I expect to exceed 90 miles. I'll let you know the results, CC, when I finish the test. It will be on relatively flat ground, using no throttle, at normal 10-12 mph speeds, in temperatures above 60 degrees, and in the most economical PAS. At the moment, I have 10 miles traveled, and battery is at 92%. Rain and cold weather has kept me from completing the test, and forecast still calls for rain this week.
With my Bafang M620 midrive pedalling all the time on flat, little wind ,,pas1, around 12 mph with 19ah battery bike weight around 85 pounds plus my 230 pounds . around 62 miles maximum,Also my ride is around 30 miles when i get home battery percentage is around 70%-72%
Got 80 miles on my Kepler using PAS 1-2 with top speed limited to 20 mph and pedaling that entire time Average speed 12.4 mph no hills 200 lbs rider. Not much of my 80 miles was stop and go. I ended at 11%..1st day 51% after just over 50 miles. Next day 30 miles with 11% left and it still went throttle only 26mph😂 .. i did ride the Kepler a bit with PAS 0 at my rest area places a couple times. Maybe 2 miles PAS 0 at like 9-10 mph . Some fishing boat launch areas or restaurant lots and a park
I'm impressed that it made it that far, even more impressed you pedaled it up your test hill! You used only 11.16 watt hours per mile, which you probably already know. You did prove something else though: NOBODY wants to ride an e-bike that way! 😂
Great Video. What greenway id this. I need to put it on my bucket list. My Hyper E-Ride city says 20 miles.When you reach 20 miles it stops.Regardless to what mode you are running in.
Well if your going to ride it on pavement, The wider tires waste energy. I wonder how many miles and how much easier it would be if you had thinner tires not like 10-speed racing tires but you know a 2.0 to a 2.8 tire????
Do you notice a clang or clank in the rear motor of your wired freedom in the first few feet at the beginning of every ride once it’s been powered on? I am noticing this now and wonder if it’s just because I roll it backward first sometimes to get it out of my garage?
I really hate how people try to pull the "longest range" bullocks about their bike... your bike can go for infinite miles if you turn off your bike off and walk it... Good job Brian for doing this to show how stupid people are to pull the longest range stupidity. What drag literally lol. If you want the longest range, then buy the best road bike and go further, faster, and do circles around stupid ebikers who buy ebikes to ride like this. So pointless and wasteful of an ebike.
🤣 "I'm. Dying Inside!" 😂 Brian, be careful doing these Widow-Maker field range tests in all pedaling mode because you have a young family that needs you. Remember it is against His Rules to self-exfil: complete your mission on earth and our Lord will Transform you back Home in His time.✝☦ Nice eBike, and excellent field range verificatiion! (Now get back to work on our Citizen Cycle warp drive kits.)❤
@@CitizenCycle925 nice, that's a great trail. The Neuse is fantastic, I'm looking forward to it finally being fully open again, maybe by the end of the year.
@@CitizenCycle925 I felt that way about the Fiido L2. I went for the distance challenge and came back defeated @ 12-13mph on that thing 🤣. Never tried that slow for that long EVER again !
Yes weigh less and too as you said flat ground. Can you do the same range test for all your bikes? Just joking! Great video thoughtfully made, presented and immensely informative👍Clearly your prior advice to subtract by half the advertised mileage is correct. For anyone thinking of buying and electric bike they need to see this video!
I'm glad companies say "up to" it's a great and sensible clause. But even their "up to's" are non-realistic in the real world. And even if you can get close by matching the requirements to get there, What is the frigging point in having an e-bike when you do most of the work yourself? lol
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One of my Dad's favorite sayings was "Once it's over it ain't so bad". Very fitting for this ride so thanks for taking one for the team. Your effort was much appreciated!
I have an ebike with a 48v, 13Ah battery and a 500w motor, bike is 70lbs. I’m a 54 year old, 170lb male and I have gotten 40 miles on a ride with 2 bars (of 5) left. I use pedal assist 0-2 most of the time, my wife has a step through bike similar weight and at 40miles her battery is pretty much done, she is in pedal assist 2 all the time. The deal is if her battery dies we can switch, so the battery anxiety is all mine, lol. I think the best thing about ebikes is that you can choose how much exercise you want to get, we go further and longer with less pain than we could otherwise, which makes it far more enjoyable.
The Ebike-King I even have our local ebike shop 🚴 watching now because he wanted to know where i be finding out about so many different bikes 🚲 keep doing what you do..
So much for writing a comment. Proves my point about e-bike reviewers.
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Your commenting to go along with your videos are so awesome! 👏
Bryan you’re comments actually make me smile. I love your videos.
Haha glad you enjoyed 😀
smooth road tyres instead of knobblies would make a lot of difference .
Great video! Sometimes I go on these slow group bike rides (300+ bikes) in both the SF Bay Area & in Vegas, and I totally almost get those high advertised ranges on most ebikes. However, at 6'1"/235 lbs., in the real world, (you're right) that advertised range number is cut up to 50%. So, bikes that I only ride during these events, only need to be charged every two to four of those 8 to 15 mile big party rides.
Sorry, Dude. We LOVE the Max Range Test! Please Max range test the Euphree Stellar Falcon...... and more!
I’m going to stay tuned for a 300 mile ebike on PAS level 1. Can’t wait for the results 🤣
The Torque sensor kind of changed what you would normally expect from an ebike range test, the motor was probably always providing some power for you with no actual speed cutoff. Where a cadence sensor equipped bike PAS 1 would assist up to it's cutoff speed then any effort would be all the rider, with the PAS keeping you from dropping below a certain speed. Maybe a test with a cadence sensor bike in the future
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The most relevant thing (to me) is the display was pretty accurate (% used vs battery left). Also, as you indicated, you're @ 190.
Nice review. I can remember when I could ride my normal bicycle for 100 miles non stop in around 5 hours. I don't think I could sit on a bicycle even with e assist for 100 miles at one sitting. Now let me hop on the Versys in your garage and I'd be good to go 😎.
I used to do that not so long ago but can't now. And Since I found out about e-bikes, I wouldn't. The fun part is now my wife can ride with me and keep up. 🙃
I will soon finish a range test on my Aventon Aventure 2, and based on early data I expect to exceed 90 miles. I'll let you know the results, CC, when I finish the test.
It will be on relatively flat ground, using no throttle, at normal 10-12 mph speeds, in temperatures above 60 degrees, and in the most economical PAS.
At the moment, I have 10 miles traveled, and battery is at 92%. Rain and cold weather has kept me from completing the test, and forecast still calls for rain this week.
With my Bafang M620 midrive pedalling all the time on flat, little wind ,,pas1, around 12 mph with 19ah battery bike weight around 85 pounds plus my 230 pounds . around 62 miles maximum,Also my ride is around 30 miles when i get home battery percentage is around 70%-72%
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Damn that's a lot riding, great workout, thanks for your time.. Drizzle Drizzle
The tires with their grips are losing up to 10% of the energy, for sure. A long-distance tire might be available.
Got 80 miles on my Kepler using PAS 1-2 with top speed limited to 20 mph and pedaling that entire time Average speed 12.4 mph no hills 200 lbs rider. Not much of my 80 miles was stop and go. I ended at 11%..1st day 51% after just over 50 miles. Next day 30 miles with 11% left and it still went throttle only 26mph😂 .. i did ride the Kepler a bit with PAS 0 at my rest area places a couple times. Maybe 2 miles PAS 0 at like 9-10 mph . Some fishing boat launch areas or restaurant lots and a park
Impressive, How is the Kepler doing for you now?
💯‼️💙
Great test and effort!
I got 70 miles once on a Himiway Zebra and still had 26% battery left. It was all in lower assist mode.
I still get 50-65 miles on my 2021 Himiway Cruiser. It really depends on how you ride it and the terrain. BTW, I weight 250 lbs.
Well done man! That was a lot of pedaling. I’m with you though, throttle is the way to go LOL
I think you should give it another try. For science and all.
Nice test! You should do the same test with the Wired Freedom lol
I'm impressed that it made it that far, even more impressed you pedaled it up your test hill! You used only 11.16 watt hours per mile, which you probably already know. You did prove something else though: NOBODY wants to ride an e-bike that way! 😂
WOW!!
I get 40 miles pit of my Aventure v1 and haven't been below 17%
I think all ebike companies over state the range in order to sell more ebikes.
I like your leather gloves, where can i get them? So cool
@@alansantos9023 M1 Moto gloves, they are 508's
Great Video. What greenway id this. I need to put it on my bucket list.
My Hyper E-Ride city says 20 miles.When you reach 20 miles it stops.Regardless to what mode you are running in.
Well if your going to ride it on pavement, The wider tires waste energy. I wonder how many miles and how much easier it would be if you had thinner tires not like 10-speed racing tires but you know a 2.0 to a 2.8 tire????
Never let your battery get below the 10% mark, it will drastically reduce its lifespan.
I may have only owned 2 ebikes, but I have figured out that range is all about total Watt Hours and 20Ah won't get any 90 miles...
Ouch, you took a big one for the team. 😊
What is more fun...moped style or standard style ebike????
There's no way I could ride an e-bike and not use the throttle! 😂😂
I know, it just felt wrong😂
I go to 85 miles regularly. That leaves me at 35-40%.
I hope you can walk tomorrow with those sore stems. lol
Does the battery get more mileage if they rest overnight(s)? For instance, would you get less mileage if you did it all one one day?
I thought I recognized that Carolina Blue sky. Born and raised in WNC.
Yep, beautiful skies for part of that ride, I always enjoy those
Citizen, stop making excuses and cycle 😂. Jp 👊🏿, awesome as always.
That same bike is dumped on the Hill Climb segment😂
Do you notice a clang or clank in the rear motor of your wired freedom in the first few feet at the beginning of every ride once it’s been powered on? I am noticing this now and wonder if it’s just because I roll it backward first sometimes to get it out of my garage?
I really hate how people try to pull the "longest range" bullocks about their bike... your bike can go for infinite miles if you turn off your bike off and walk it...
Good job Brian for doing this to show how stupid people are to pull the longest range stupidity. What drag literally lol.
If you want the longest range, then buy the best road bike and go further, faster, and do circles around stupid ebikers who buy ebikes to ride like this. So pointless and wasteful of an ebike.
🤣 "I'm. Dying Inside!" 😂
Brian, be careful doing these Widow-Maker field range tests in all pedaling mode because you have a young family that needs you. Remember it is against His Rules to self-exfil: complete your mission on earth and our Lord will Transform you back Home in His time.✝☦
Nice eBike, and excellent field range verificatiion!
(Now get back to work on our Citizen Cycle warp drive kits.)❤
Is this the Clayton Riverwalk into the Neuse River Trail?
Yep!
@@CitizenCycle925 nice, that's a great trail. The Neuse is fantastic, I'm looking forward to it finally being fully open again, maybe by the end of the year.
There that bike on hill climb hill again?
What size is the stem on the freedare saiga ?
About 31.8mm
I'd rather see a full range test in "fun mode", cuz who's gunna go out to enjoy themselves in PAS 1.
NOT ME lol
Bet I could go over the max range.
Tell them to send me 3 #erictennant
204 pounds. So maybe not!
After the test you should put on a grey beard for a gag lol
That's the last time I try that type of test. 3 days at 11mph was tough.
@@CitizenCycle925 I felt that way about the Fiido L2. I went for the distance challenge and came back defeated @ 12-13mph on that thing 🤣. Never tried that slow for that long EVER again !
Yep first!
no timer in the upper right corner on the hill climb test to compare to the other bikes! booo. 😂😂😂
Haha, I guess it gives you a good idea of what that hill is like with no motor power though...
He could have used a sundial...
I don't think you are patient enough to get 90 miles ;-)
Seamed like it would be boring and or painful lmao
Yes weigh less and too as you said flat ground. Can you do the same range test for all your bikes? Just joking!
Great video thoughtfully made, presented and immensely informative👍Clearly your prior advice to subtract by half the advertised mileage is correct.
For anyone thinking of buying and electric bike they need to see this video!
They never claimed 90. They claimed "up to 90". :)
You got me there 😂
I'm glad companies say "up to" it's a great and sensible clause. But even their "up to's" are non-realistic in the real world. And even if you can get close by matching the requirements to get there, What is the frigging point in having an e-bike when you do most of the work yourself? lol
what is the shipping cost for your citizen warp drive kit
Free shipping!!
@@CitizenCycle925Will they be shipping in early May or late May? Just picked mine up off your site!
@@gocards4439 most likely late May
I think you should check range on every bike you review 😂
Definitely not!😁