One of the worst things about Grille besides the fact it was nerfed is its terrible gun depression (5° dep). Sheridan has 10° of gun dep and it has spaced armor so it can't be HE'd that easily.
Seriously, I don't see any point on getting 30B (other than collection) until WG give it something breakthrough for that thing. Just get STB or any medium tbh. It's better and for some tanks, completely free
Grille 15 is nowhere near the worst tanks, it still has incredible accuracy and mobility for a tank destroyer and also good dpm, just hide in a bush at the back if the map and youll be fine.
VK 72.01K isn't that bad either, comparing it to VK 90.01 isn't fair since it is a Collector Tank that not many people have and VK 72.01K has great HE and is great at facehuggung, just dont try to sidescrape in it.
Grille 15 only has gun accuracy going it. Yeahbits reload speed is good, but penetration sucks. Same thing goes with M41D, great dpm, but really bad pen, so the tank is built to be maneuverable, meanwhile grille is just a camling td
@@bazookas.vk 72 is terrifying (for new players going against it) Its kind of a skill gap tank, if a new player sees you, they dont know what to do, on the other hand. If an pro player sees you, they will pen you every damn time. But, the problem with the tank is that you cant improve with it, like without tanks E100/maus on the german tech tree. you are pretty fine by just firing angling, but if you are skilled, you will know how to angle the turret, making you even stronger oppoment. Basically, vk 72 depends on which teams you get. Not on your skill, but your team's skill
For me 183 is really fun tank, basically tier 10 kv2, but nerfed slightly. Youre gonna need skill to use it and not die instantly and getting only 1 hesh off. Now, best place to go with fv is places with buildings, or basically where heavies go, since they are mostly slow as sht, and take long time to reload, so when they fire, you peek out and clap them. And they can't push you because you got your team covering you,but because it takes skill. some players decide to camp where mediums are, since (i CaN oNe ShOt tHem iTs bEtTeR cHoIcE!!!!!) I mean yeah you can oneshot them, but what's stopping them from taking advantage of your terrible manevauebility and absurdly long reload?
I myself have played 164 battles in amx 30 b and i think it's not a bad tank, got myself 4 masteries 60 %wr and avrage 2500 damage on it (i got it for free form a crate on a event)
In my opinion the 5 worst tanks are 5. Obj. 263 - 4 degrees of gun depression, bad premium pen, bad accuracy and an armor profile that it only good when hiding the huge lower plate is pretty bad, it just can't hold up against other TD's 4. Fv 215b 183 - all the reasons you explained, it is just too inconsistent 3. Obj. 260 - it is basically an IS8 brought to T10, no armor, no gun dep and not really great dpm are just lackluster 2. Obj. 140 - you explained it, it doesn't have anything going for it, for example take the Kpz50t ( ik not many people have it and i don't really wanna compare it to the 140 but ) it has better stats in really every area apart from power 2 weight 1. AMX 30b - it is horrible
I feel like the 183 gets a lot of hate because the average player you see in battle is absolutely trash. However, if you play the gun smart, it's such a great tank. And I think it's because of its high alpha, that it's very attractive to noobs.
I was afraid that when I saw the video title I would find the M48 on the list, fortunately it was not like that. Many (Idiots) believe that the M48 is a bad tank. In my opinion they suffer from a severe case of skill issues. Nevertheless good video as always!
I found even though the m60 is better stat wise it plays worse than the m48 I always find the m48 is better when on paper it’s not, which wouldn’t make sense. I do good in a similar tank but in the other I’m utter dog shit
Yeah, people want to have special tanks, like this one has high dpm, this one has high manevauebility,ect... So ofcourse when there are tanks that have balanced stats they are considered trash
That's the exact reason. I clicked on the video to see if somebody said the M48 and if they did. I was just gonna insult them for not being a good player. My opinion is the best t10 but that's just cause I'm really good in it. But no matter how good you're in a tank. When you have stupid team, you get a lower win rate.
I have over 2k battles in the deathstar and i really have to say its a very funny tank. But for real now, the dmg should be a bit higher, since its a Deathstar…
You have more than enough alpha damage AND dpm to ruin tier IX vehicles with one hesh, the thing is that you dont have anything else and the tank isnt accurate so unless your lucky with the shots you dont contribute to the Victory.
@@robinvincenc3688I'd prefer having a tier X version of kV2, since i just keep destroying so many fvs, i litteraly see then as free kills than "deathstars"
@@Average_Crack_Addict they arent strong,they are just broken and annoying and if someone has rng in it it will just ruin your game,similar to kv2 but noone minds that since its just a tier VI and noone plays tier VI seriously
@@robinvincenc3688 gosh, if you wanna play seriously go play ranked, why is fun not allowed at tier 10? WG tries to balance tier X but ultimately make it worse, meanwhile lowtiers are barely balanced but fun
@@Average_Crack_Addict I admit that playing 183 can sometimes be fun,however it still shouldnt be in the game because its point and click ability doesnt have any counter and it devastates both good players and noobs.If it hits it either pens and does disgusting damage or splashes and does around 600 anyway. People in ranked spam 183 btw. The only trully balanced tier is tier VIII but even that can suffer to smashers if you for example play something else that a fat heavy.
First hundred games I was trash with it, being too aggressive, thinking I could take tanks on head on. IMO it's pretty situational but most of the time sort of sit backish let other people make first contact and try an attack occupied tanks from sides or rear. Also make the most of your gun °, use hilly terrain to cover your hull because its weak but your turret is pretty strong. And finally read the mini map, if you're out numbered retreat... don't be scared to do a lap of the map, go invisible and snipe. Hope this helps brother.
just get the stb and ull truly realise how shit 30b is.... like u said its ur first tier 10 so u got no comparison i guarantee you if u get the stb ur never playing the 30b again it does everything the 30b does but it doent have a clown cupola
In my opinion the E3 is one of the whorst tanks at t10 because its have a big gun with the accuracy of a Jagdpanzer E100 with less alpha its have good armor but the turnrate and sidearmor are trash the T95 is a better tank its have good turnrate the sidearmor is very good the gun have better accuracy and dpm and more camo (65%)
@@arandomstar2123 the T110E3 is the whorst armored t10 TD Jagdpanzer E100,Obj 268 4 and FV217 are better TDs its a fun tank like the Su-152 but its not a really good tank the T95 is better because he have more armor better mobility and better accuracy
@@bazookas. the E3 only have armor no mobility no camo and a horrible gun yes its have big alpha but the Jagdpanzer E100 have better accuracy with more alpha dpm and penetration
@@bazookas. I would pick e4 over e100 anyday, cuz the e4 has a gun that is miles better, e100 may have more turret armour for angling but it won’t matter becuz anyone with good enough aim and above 370mm of prammo pen will still be able to pen the turret ring
The Deadthstar is still very good compared with the high caliber arties in wot pc who get around 300 damage and have an almost 1min reload this tanks is wayyyyy better im very satisfied with it
One of the worst things about Grille besides the fact it was nerfed is its terrible gun depression (5° dep). Sheridan has 10° of gun dep and it has spaced armor so it can't be HE'd that easily.
People that can't afford the collector tank called VK.90 and this guy saying that everyone should use VK90:😭💀🙏🙏🙏
I don't know man, I'm slightly above 60% win rate with the 30b.
I definitely enjoy using it, you're gonna have to be adept to use it.
This dude is comparing a f2p vk 72 to a p2w vk 90 and ask why would u get the 72k
Seriously, I don't see any point on getting 30B (other than collection) until WG give it something breakthrough for that thing.
Just get STB or any medium tbh. It's better and for some tanks, completely free
You know I sometimes have a bad day, and I want others to feel the same. That's why 183 is my love.
Grille 15 is nowhere near the worst tanks, it still has incredible accuracy and mobility for a tank destroyer and also good dpm, just hide in a bush at the back if the map and youll be fine.
Also if ypu don't use Spall Liner you just put yourself in a disadvantage.
VK 72.01K isn't that bad either, comparing it to VK 90.01 isn't fair since it is a Collector Tank that not many people have and VK 72.01K has great HE and is great at facehuggung, just dont try to sidescrape in it.
Grille 15 only has gun accuracy going it. Yeahbits reload speed is good, but penetration sucks.
Same thing goes with M41D, great dpm, but really bad pen, so the tank is built to be maneuverable, meanwhile grille is just a camling td
@@bazookas.vk 72 is terrifying (for new players going against it)
Its kind of a skill gap tank, if a new player sees you, they dont know what to do, on the other hand. If an pro player sees you, they will pen you every damn time.
But, the problem with the tank is that you cant improve with it, like without tanks E100/maus on the german tech tree. you are pretty fine by just firing angling, but if you are skilled, you will know how to angle the turret, making you even stronger oppoment.
Basically, vk 72 depends on which teams you get. Not on your skill, but your team's skill
The 183 is not bad because it stats suck so much, but because most of the players just camp in a corner.
For me 183 is really fun tank, basically tier 10 kv2, but nerfed slightly.
Youre gonna need skill to use it and not die instantly and getting only 1 hesh off. Now, best place to go with fv is places with buildings, or basically where heavies go, since they are mostly slow as sht, and take long time to reload, so when they fire, you peek out and clap them. And they can't push you because you got your team covering you,but because it takes skill. some players decide to camp where mediums are, since (i CaN oNe ShOt tHem iTs bEtTeR cHoIcE!!!!!)
I mean yeah you can oneshot them, but what's stopping them from taking advantage of your terrible manevauebility and absurdly long reload?
I myself have played 164 battles in amx 30 b and i think it's not a bad tank, got myself 4 masteries 60 %wr and avrage 2500 damage on it (i got it for free form a crate on a event)
Yeah there are always those few people that say something opposite of the video explanation itself and it’s okay overall as everyone has an opinion
Lol 2.5k is ass
I have like 15 masteries with the 30b and like 160 battles
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In my opinion the 5 worst tanks are
5. Obj. 263 - 4 degrees of gun depression, bad premium pen, bad accuracy and an armor profile that it only good when hiding the huge lower plate is pretty bad, it just can't hold up against other TD's
4. Fv 215b 183 - all the reasons you explained, it is just too inconsistent
3. Obj. 260 - it is basically an IS8 brought to T10, no armor, no gun dep and not really great dpm are just lackluster
2. Obj. 140 - you explained it, it doesn't have anything going for it, for example take the Kpz50t ( ik not many people have it and i don't really wanna compare it to the 140 but ) it has better stats in really every area apart from power 2 weight
1. AMX 30b - it is horrible
nah i disagree with you on 263 is very fun its really good if you know what your doiny
@@gunas6133 i wasn't saying that it can't be good but in most situations it isn't, it pains me to say this since the 263 is one of my favourite tanks
@@gunas6133 shld I rush a badger with it?
@@supervelocejota63 yee
@@gunas6133 ok then
Weird that my 30b has one of my best spotting stats in my garage, along with 9 lights
Now I go for the AMX 30B and if I can master it, I can master anything.
I feel like the 183 gets a lot of hate because the average player you see in battle is absolutely trash. However, if you play the gun smart, it's such a great tank. And I think it's because of its high alpha, that it's very attractive to noobs.
The 183'a gun is very unreliable. At least of you believe the 70-80% WR youtubers.
Amx30B with the light blue camo, “oxidation” or something idk, looks perfect.
Whatever you say but when you smack someone 1500 DMG OMG that feels like heaven
Through this video I kept swiping to move just to keep realizing it’s a video
I was afraid that when I saw the video title I would find the M48 on the list, fortunately it was not like that. Many (Idiots) believe that the M48 is a bad tank. In my opinion they suffer from a severe case of skill issues.
Nevertheless good video as always!
I found even though the m60 is better stat wise it plays worse than the m48 I always find the m48 is better when on paper it’s not, which wouldn’t make sense. I do good in a similar tank but in the other I’m utter dog shit
Yeah, people want to have special tanks, like this one has high dpm, this one has high manevauebility,ect...
So ofcourse when there are tanks that have balanced stats they are considered trash
That's the exact reason. I clicked on the video to see if somebody said the M48 and if they did. I was just gonna insult them for not being a good player.
My opinion is the best t10 but that's just cause I'm really good in it.
But no matter how good you're in a tank. When you have stupid team, you get a lower win rate.
I disagree.. amx 30 b is not that bad.. its got speed. Depression. Good pen. Ok dpm. Light armour. I like it better than no depression leo
Why would i have avr damage 2.1k but only a 55% winrate after 28k battles. I feel i should have more winrate.
Have to disagree with you on the 30B. Grsst mobility, good gun. Itd only downside is the hatch.
LOL vk72, all it has is high alpha and good armour ONLY when facehugging and wiggling the turret
what is the point of the 30b for that you can just a way better tech tree vehicle
I like the VK72
I have over 2k battles in the deathstar and i really have to say its a very funny tank. But for real now, the dmg should be a bit higher, since its a Deathstar…
You have more than enough alpha damage AND dpm to ruin tier IX vehicles with one hesh, the thing is that you dont have anything else and the tank isnt accurate so unless your lucky with the shots you dont contribute to the Victory.
@@robinvincenc3688I'd prefer having a tier X version of kV2, since i just keep destroying so many fvs, i litteraly see then as free kills than "deathstars"
@@Average_Crack_Addict they arent strong,they are just broken and annoying and if someone has rng in it it will just ruin your game,similar to kv2 but noone minds that since its just a tier VI and noone plays tier VI seriously
@@robinvincenc3688 gosh, if you wanna play seriously go play ranked, why is fun not allowed at tier 10?
WG tries to balance tier X but ultimately make it worse, meanwhile lowtiers are barely balanced but fun
@@Average_Crack_Addict I admit that playing 183 can sometimes be fun,however it still shouldnt be in the game because its point and click ability doesnt have any counter and it devastates both good players and noobs.If it hits it either pens and does disgusting damage or splashes and does around 600 anyway. People in ranked spam 183 btw. The only trully balanced tier is tier VIII but even that can suffer to smashers if you for example play something else that a fat heavy.
Im very surprised that I didn’t see the 4005 its Massive has no armor and it’s super difficult to play
But is also one of the best tanks in the game when you learn how to play it.
@@kragger1985 how do u play it
First hundred games I was trash with it, being too aggressive, thinking I could take tanks on head on.
IMO it's pretty situational but most of the time sort of sit backish let other people make first contact and try an attack occupied tanks from sides or rear.
Also make the most of your gun °, use hilly terrain to cover your hull because its weak but your turret is pretty strong.
And finally read the mini map, if you're out numbered retreat... don't be scared to do a lap of the map, go invisible and snipe. Hope this helps brother.
@@kragger1985 wdym your turret very stong??? its 14 mm...
My bad, I'm talking about the fv4202
Fv 183 line is the worst fr
As the 30 B as my first tier 10 I thinks it'd good 6.8 reload the cupola is shit (as most French has) May block with the turret front
just get the stb and ull truly realise how shit 30b is.... like u said its ur first tier 10 so u got no comparison i guarantee you if u get the stb ur never playing the 30b again it does everything the 30b does but it doent have a clown cupola
I think foch should also be there
@09:28-09:42, , 😔Very Sad. Like; Beretta 92 instead of 1911 same mindlessness. Tier 6-NewPlayer I.D., _BIRDofMI_ ,✝️
In my opinion the E3 is one of the whorst tanks at t10 because its have a big gun with the accuracy of a Jagdpanzer E100 with less alpha its have good armor but the turnrate and sidearmor are trash the T95 is a better tank its have good turnrate the sidearmor is very good the gun have better accuracy and dpm and more camo (65%)
E3 is one of the best wtf
@@arandomstar2123 the T110E3 is the whorst armored t10 TD Jagdpanzer E100,Obj 268 4 and FV217 are better TDs its a fun tank like the Su-152 but its not a really good tank the T95 is better because he have more armor better mobility and better accuracy
@@nicofeldmann9684 bro, what are you talking about, if you use a bit of gun depression you have near invincible armor, the e3 is a great tank
@@bazookas. the E3 only have armor no mobility no camo and a horrible gun yes its have big alpha but the Jagdpanzer E100 have better accuracy with more alpha dpm and penetration
@@nicofeldmann9684 e3 gun seems to troll more than jageroo in terms of hitting shots, nothing to do with skill
I will not buy a tank that have a huge tumor
183 is my most (M) tank in the game 😂😂
Grille 15 is the best td in the game lol
Bro I got the amx 30 b for 2$ so I’m not complaining lol
183 is garbage. The Kzp 70 is garbage to 152 mm no more damage then a 120 mm and slow reload
I'd swap the vk out for the 268v4
Certified f2p, 268 v4 is by no means bad but vk72 is
WHY DOES AN OBJ 268 HAVE BETTER CAMO THAN GRILLE
Camo is mostly based on tank height
Surpising the E4 isn't on the list
E4 and 263 would be 6th and 7th imo
E4 isn't that bad, just a bit worse e100
@@bazookas. I would pick e4 over e100 anyday, cuz the e4 has a gun that is miles better, e100 may have more turret armour for angling but it won’t matter becuz anyone with good enough aim and above 370mm of prammo pen will still be able to pen the turret ring
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If everyone who plays the 183 should be ashamed off,u should be ashamed of ur self???
I already am
You should be ashamed of your spelling 🤣
The Deadthstar is still very good
compared with the high caliber arties in wot pc
who get around 300 damage and have an almost 1min reload
this tanks is wayyyyy better im very satisfied with it
30B is underrated tank, just because u are bad player does not mean tank by itself is bad
Do you really think he is a bad player if you really believe that then why don't you battle with him with your 30 b and i am sorry if iam being rude
@@Furryexterminator699 i have around 300 battles and 3.3k damage in it
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Bro only lost in AMX 30 B XD
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vicker light is top 5 worst now
grile is good but not for all players n