GERMAN ME-109 & FW-190 FIGHTER PILOT GUN CAMERA FOOTAGE vs. AMERICAN B-17s & P-38 LIGHTNING 45334
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Dating to 1944-45, these silent films contain a record of Luftwaffe pilot kills over Europe. These kind of "gun camera" films were used both to document and verify kills and probables, but also to assess the techniques used in the dogfights.
The film contains various encounters beginning with an attack by an Fw-190 on a Lagg 5, or Lavochkin La-5 This was one of the Soviet Air Force's most capable types of warplane, able to fight German designs on an equal footing. In this case however the Soviet pilot was shot out of the sky.
At 1:25 is footage of the shoot down of a P-38 Lightning by an Fw-190. At 2:30, a B-24 Liberator is attacked by a Bf-109 / Me-109. At 3:34, an attack by an Fw-190 on a Boeing B-17. This approach is typical, from the rear and aimed at the engines and tail gunner. At 4:29 and 4:50, 5:19, 5:55, 6:17, more Fw-190 attacks on the B-17. The attack at 7:43 is very close, likely indicating that the tail gun on the bomber was put out of action. Around 7:42 you can see a large piece of aircraft depart (or possibly someone bailing out through a roof hatch?) At 7:54, 8:39, 9:37, Fw-190 vs. B-24 Liberator. At 9:56, in an astonishing sequence, a Liberator takes a severe beating and is wracked with explosions of cannon fire.
The aircraft that were being used in the film are the FW-190 and the Messerschmitt Bf 109. The Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Würger (English: Shrike) is a German single-seat, single-engine fighter aircraft designed by Kurt Tank in the late 1930s and widely used during World War II. Along with its well-known counterpart, the Messerschmitt Bf 109, the Focke-Wulf 190 Würger became the backbone of the Luftwaffe's Jagdwaffe (Fighter Force). The twin-row BMW 801 radial engine that powered most operational versions enabled the Fw 190 to lift larger loads than the Bf 109, allowing its use as a day fighter, fighter-bomber, ground-attack aircraft and, to a lesser degree, night fighter. The Bf-109 was a German World War II fighter aircraft that was the backbone of the Luftwaffe's fighter force. The Bf 109 first saw operational service in 1937 during the Spanish Civil War and was still in service at the dawn of the jet age at the end of World War II in 1945. It was one of the most advanced fighters of the era, including such features as all-metal monocoque construction, a closed canopy, and retractable landing gear. It was powered by a liquid-cooled, inverted-V12 aero engine. The G-6 variant (indicated in the title cards in the film) was nicknamed by Luftwaffe personnel as Die Beule ("the bump/bulge") because of the cowling's characteristic, bulging covers for the breeches of the 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine guns, with the separate Beule covers eliminated by the time of the G-10 model's introduction of a subtly reshaped upper cowling.
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As a teenager, in the mid-80’s, through family in Germany, I became friends with one of these German fighter pilots who showed me photographic stills like this. He survived being shot down 3 times, only to be struck and killed by a drunk driver. He never saw the 90’s.
Poor pilot waste of life only the truck driver killed him
That wasn't Gerhard Barkhorn by any chance, was it?
Chris Lohmann .....No.
An Uncle went through WW2. Anzio Beach assault and all. Never got a scratch. Gets back home, many years later. He is working on a Volkswagen. Gets his finger caught in fan belt and cut it off clean. They got him after all.
@@textech4056 OUCH! Tragic but funny, both at the same time.
What phenomenal footage from German cameras, and Def. those 17s were in a shooting gallery. you guys are lucky to have this footage available.Thanks for posting this and hopefully more to come! :)
My late Father served in a B-17 bomber command as a top turret gunner for the Mighty Eighth. His accounts told to me of the missions he was on really come to life with this aerial film footage. Thank you for uploading this for viewing.
If you have time, be a pleasure to read any of his stories.
My grandfather was a Stuka Pilot ..survived the war..
Which front?
Cool, wahrscheinlich hat er Ihren eltern viele interessanter Geschichten erzählt
Thats true, I was the Stuka siren. Hoooooouuuunnn
Interesting. My grandfather flew Spitfires, he was shot down 3 times but survived the war and sadly died in 1981.
Thanks to your grandfather for his service
Adolf Galland's book "The First and the Last" sheds a ton of light on the successes and failures of the Luftwaffe. He spends a bit of time explaining the different theories on how best to shoot down bombers. An excellent read if one wishes to dive beyond these videos and what these fighter pilots were up against.
The second half of the video is pretty much just Sturmbocke units in action. They were flying modified FW-190A with extra armor. In combat they assemble behind the bombers in line abreast formation and charge straight in, keep firing as long as possible and only break away at the last moment.
190 A R2
Focke Wulf A8/R2.
Armament. Two Rheimetall Borsig 30mm cannon
Two 20 mm autocannon
Two 13mm machineguns above the engine. Designed to shoot down 4 engined bombers but not suitable as fighterplanes because of the extra armament. They needed topcover from the Me109 designed to attack Allied fighters.
@@theovansteijn1135 Thirty cal?? Lord those shells would have shredded both man and machine into something unrecognisable!
Wow awesome! Some of the guncams have never seen before
What’s sad is that we’re likely witnessing some aircrews last moments here, they shall never grow old. RIP
Thank you for some great footage of the German Air Force, they were amazing men and awesome machines.
Die Namen der jeweiligen Piloten wären absolut super zu erfahren!
While these are morbidly fascinating to me, I have to think of the fact that we're witnessing, in many instances, someone's death.
The boys in the B-17s were sitting ducks.
Ducks with guns
Yes, thumps! Only pressing a button to kill mother's and children!!! What heroes!
@@klausschindler6132 yeah that’s why the Germans bombed England right? Dipshit
@@ChiTown27656 and Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland....
@@klausschindler6132 I suppose you have a point. The real heroes killed up close and personal - like in the death camps, right? At least your grandfather created a list, so kudos for your lineage.
When the German is coming in so close to the B17 that means the tail gunner and the bottom ball gunner have been knocked out. 😢
It's the Sturmbocke units, that's just the way they fought the heavies.
Yes, that's what I was thinking aswell. I don't know any statistics but I'm just assuming that tail gunners' job in those bombers was the most dangerous one. Just guessing. Same with the bottom ball gunner I guess.
BadPenny78 ... war is really shitty. People are sent to their deaths because of politicians. 😿
They found a B 17 Crew Member near Holzminden, they not know was it one or two , torn !
@ja nee Edgy
Gaijin: German spark is proved based on this footage
And where do they prove the sniper aimbot gunners?
@@Elfrendar Red Tails, probably.
Given that a single 20mm doesn't split these plane in half and that it takes many to shoot them down I think it's safe to say that Gaijin doesn't care about damage models.
@@Elfrendar someone hasn't played bombers lol
@@andrewmandrona7891 like pe8 can snipe you from 2km away
How many German planes were lost by junk falling off B-17s and damaging them?
And friendly flak
Germans normally attacked on information's ingress before the flak batteries began to fire. Also when the formations exfil'd to home station.
Fighter escorts remained with the bombers most of the way in, then had to turn back due to bingo on fuel and ammo. Sorties would meet formations enroute to home station and scare off any 'chasers'.
@@mikkel066h german fighters were the ones to signal the flak I think, they would intercept the bombers, then after running out of ammo or getting out of range they would call the flak
It definitely happened quite a lot. Erich Hartmann was downed 16 times but never because of enemy fire. All of these incidents were due to debris strike or other mechanical failure.
@@Jay-Niner I can see that. He was adamant about point blank shooting.
The butcher of the skies..the fw 190
Translation of German text: 1. Angriff
Fw190 A7 - Liberator
Anflug: Von vorne
Anfangsentfernung: 600m (300m)
Abgang: 150m (can't read the word in the brackets)
Fw190 A7 - Liberator
Approach: HO
Initial Distance: 600m (300m)
I don't know exactly what could be meant by "Abgang"... probably the distance between the planes when the attacker turned or dived away.
2. Angriff
Fw190 A6 - Liberator
Anflug: von rechts vorne
Anfangsentfernung: 1000m
Abgang: 400m
Fw190 A6 - Liberator
Approach: HO coming from the right side
Initial Distance: 1000m
Abgang(?): 400m
3. Angriff
Bf110 G2 - Boeing
1. Anflug: von querab
Anfangsentfernung: 2000m
Abgang: 1500m
2. Anflug: von hinten oben
Anfangsentfernung: 250m
Abgang: 50m
Bf110 G2 - Boeing
1st Approach: coming from 3 or 9 o'clock (doesn't specify that)
Initial Distance: 2000m
Abgang(?): 1500m
2nd Approach: coming from behind, high
Initial Distance: 250m
Abgang(?): 50m
4. Angriff
Fw190 A7 - Boeing
Anflug: von hinten
Anfangsentfernung: 100m
Abgang: 150m
Fw190 A7 - Boeing
Approach: coming from behind
Initial Distance: 1000m
Abgang(?): 150m
5. Angriff
Bf110 G2 - Liberator
Anflug: von hinten
Anfangsentfernung: 4000m (600m)
Abgang: 1400m (50m)
Bf110 G2 - Liberator
Approach: coming from behind
Initial Distance: 4000m (600m)
Abgang(?): 1400m (50m)
6. Angriff
Fw190 - Mustang
Anflug: Kurvenkampf
Anfangsentfernung: 100m
Abgang: 70m
Fw190 - Mustang
Approach: Turnfight
Initial Distance: 100m
Abgang(?): 70m
7. Angriff
Fw190 - Boeing
Anflug: von hinten
Anfangsentfernung: 700m (200m)
Abgang: 150m (20m)
Fw190 - Boeing
Approach: coming from behind
Initial Distance: 700m (200m)
Abgang(?): 150m (20m)
8. Angriff
Fw190 A7 - Liberator
Anflug: von vorne
Anfangsentfernung: 1000m
Abgang: 700m
Fw190 A7 - Liberator
Approach: HO
Initial Distance: 1000m
Abgang(?): 700m
9. Angriff
Fw190 A7 - Liberator
Anflug: von vorne
Anfangsentfernung: 600m (300m)
Abgang: 300m (50m)
Fw190 A7 - Liberator
Approach: HO
Initial Distacne: 600m (300m)
Abgang(?): 300m (50m)
10. Angriff
Bf110 G2 - Boeing
Anflug: von hinten
Anfangsentfernung: 600m
Abgang: 30m
Bf110 G2 - Boeing
Approach: coming from behind
Initial Distance: 600m
Abgang(?): 30m
Terry Reid Abgang means disengaged (from enemy)
6. Angriff "Kurvenkampf" simply means that they were already dogfighting.
Abgang = leaving
Abgang = Leaving / going off
Those German pilots had some balls. Tip toeing through that hornets nest of .50 cal fire.
They had to fly hundreds of missions without a break. And the world in their simplicity calls them "Nazis" - is that all?
@@dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 because the world is sick and likes to stomp on the brave German men to get past their own insecurities
At this point in the war, the German pilots were fighting to protect their homeland that was getting bombed daily, day and night. I’m not a fan of the nazi’s, not in the least, but I do have a lot of respect for the pilots of the Luftwaffe. They were excellent pilots and I am sure the British, Russian, American and other allied pilots that faced the Luftwaffe all had a healthy respect for them. At the same time, you have to respect the allied bomber crews as they were just sitting ducks in those big slow bombers. Respect to all the soldiers!
I think it was way more easy to attack German bombers than allied bombers ....
Wow, bombers and other much lighter planes aren't being split in half by a single 20mm, or even shot down with several.
It's almost like the War Thunder damage models are completely inaccurate despite people insisting that they aren't.
Its not a sim, dont listen to those people.
Andrew Mandrona its almost like they didnt know german cannon shell was cntact detonate, which did far less damage per round impacting.
@@andrealves2630 the models arent decent lol, 1 .50 can destroy a tail of a fighter, 1 mk108 can completely knock off a tail of any bomber, etc
@@andrealves2630 LMAO, nope, WT flight or damage models are not very accurate. You do not fly a fully realistic flight model plane (not counting modern planes with computers) with a keyboard and mouse for a reason.
Had a German/American friend when I was stationed in Italy who had an uncle who was an American rifleman and another who was flying with the Luftwaffe intercepting bombers. Every war is a civil war for somebody!
The Sturmbocke really had their strike techniques straight: Get behind, knock down tail and ball turret, and GO FOR THE ENGINES, the more exposed and vital element of the b-17s.
7:41 unbelievable how close this pilot gets to his target.
Could you imagine the chaos going on inside those aircraft that are being plucked out the sky. Nothing you can do but get ready to jump. True nightmare.
All these are attacks are from the rear. I read that the bombers were most vulnerable to a frontal attack.
I also read that when Goering learned the Mustangs had the range to escort the bombers all the way to their targets he realized Germany had lost the air war.
The most advantageous position for the German fighters was from the rear and below the bombers. It was difficult to see them at that angle and it was the bomber's lone tail gunner's 50cal. machine guns vs the German fighters 20 mm cannon=devastation.The bombers were supposed to stay in formation at least until they released their bombs making them the proverbial "sitting ducks".The bombers tried to even the odd vs frontal attack by adding additonal machine guns at the front of the aitcraft. And then there was the German flak..........
@@GFSLombardo You forget that a lot of american bombers had ball turrets in the bottom that employed 2 browning M3s. This was to protect against the weakness you stated, but yeah, not a place I would wanna be
Thats how the Sturmbocke units operated. They were meant to just charge straight from the rear, fire as many rounds as they could and break away at some 50m from the target
JoeJ94611 My late Father, who served as a top turret gunner in a B-17, told me the P51 fighters were a Godsend.
Bubi Hartmann generally flew at 50-100m from behind and only then shot ..... the result: 352 confirmed kills ! .... thank you for your service Bubi !
Krupinski also flew extremely close before opening fire. These guys didn't waste ammo.
Peoples witch steel bolls. My respect, it’s incredible!
My uncle was a night hunter.He shot down a lot of these bomber killers.And I'm so proud of him!!!
Much respect to your uncle!
That first clip is a FW 190 attacking a Russian La 5. Not all these clips are B-17s and P-38s just for the record
Even if we Germans lost the war, my heart is glad that it was due to the superiority of the enemies and not the inability of our good soldiers.
Charles Martel Verteidigen wogegen?
Und was hat multi kulti hiermit zu tun?
Totally agree with Alex...
@Alex Munro I agree, I don't see why people call the allied bomber pilots heroes by bombing civilian targets. Then again you could say the say for germany when they bombed britain, but it was nowhere near as large of a scale
@L "as accurately as possible" *bombs Switzerland multiple times for no reason* *Bombs non-industrial Austrian cities multiple times*
No regrets about the whole Nazi thing?
Hi, thanks for the video. It’s great except The title should say “BF-109” (see 2:33 ) - rather than “ME-109”. Yes it is a Messerschmitt, but it’s correct designation is BF-109.
Bf-109 as stated in Film Nr.1254 2:32. NOT ME-109 of the title of this UA-cam video.
When I was stationed in England (87), we spent much of our time in Germany, sometimes at actual German Air bases practicing with their Air Force. I met some WW11 aces. Excited to actually meet them, and sad thinking of the U.S. pilots they shot down.
08:56 to 9:36 A clear example of a Sturmbocke attack. V-shaped attack, each Fw 190 targetting a bomber to split the defensive fire of the gunners and prevent them concentrating on a particular attacker. Some of the 190s are still carrying their drop tanks, which you can see when they break to the left. The 190A-8\R2 had armoured cockpit panels, cockpit, and cowling with formidable armament. It allowed the slow approach from behind but they still had to sit through a minute or so of American gunfire.
Even in my WW2 computer game, I take the FW-190 over an A6M zero. Near match, they can last longer for fuel range, but I got more ammunition.
Zeros are smart planes, but fragile, with few shoots they are burning
Danke an alle Deutschen Helden
5:15 damn this b17 gets punishment 30mm hits?
Those are most likely 20mm cannons. From what I heard, there is no combat footage of the Mk 108 30mm cannons, but I could be wrong.
@@Fallenheroes742 I believe I saw combat footage of a Me-163 engaging a B-17, not sure tho, and the 163 had 2 Mk 108s.
Those are absolutely 20mm rounds, IMO. The usual Minengeschoss ammo (essentially “super-HE”), but 20mm, nonetheless.
30mm HE rounds impacting the elevator/stabilizer like shown in this footage would’ve completely dismantled it. These ‘merely’ shred a hole.
@@FartSniffer1
Yes, i remember, Hole like a Truck - Wheel in left Wing, Bomber B 17 go right out of Movie.....
The FW 190 A8 only had the 20mm 151 cannons and the 13mm heavy MGs
PLEASE, put that PF bar a little low. Its blocking view! tky
In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous UA-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content. We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to deal with these kind of issues.
I've often been annoyed at the timer before and thought it unnecessary, but I'll never complain again.
@@PeriscopeFilm How can you complain? These films are stolen from Germany!
@@TheFaderland Stolen? We prefer the term "liberated".
@@jannyvf like when Austria was "liberated" after getting its civilian city center fire bombed?
these clips seem edited, sure they were, but is there an unedited version with the actual kill? talking about the fighter kills
This is why only 25% of aircrew made it through their tour. Also the flak was hellish.
Wow those bombers had to change crew in almost every mission
Early on, before fighter cover was available with adequate range (P51s), it was 40% bomber crew losses over the 25 missions. My uncle was killed on his 10th mission in '43. Later it was better but the German pilots were bold over their home ground until the end..
25% is great - if you look at fighter losses: 90% killed ... just 10% survived as fighter ace Rall had stated in 2005.
It should have been 100%.. but the 8.8 bullets just had a time fuse and often go directly trough the plane till nearly the end of the war.
So they were able to kill civilians instead of getting their asses opened.
I really dont understand, why people always think war is good.. in the beginning everyone of them is just happy about that.
Its nice to see that footage, but if you think about the fact that most of them are dead..
Last german Pilots have 5 or 7 Flight Hours on 190 or 109, called : One Day Fly !
Some years ago I was in the USA , and went to an aircraft museum . Somewhere in the desert, I can't remember the name of the place. But there were hundreds of mothballed aircraft stored near by, in the open air . There was a B17 there called , "At last we are here ". With the original crew . I asked them about German fighters attacking . They said they would come in head on, about 4 in a line. Brave men those bomber crews . We owe them so much !!!
Brave men in all sides, all of them were just doing their duty, brave generation .......
Luftwaffe!👍😎👍
Scary
I don’t how these fighters survived attacking a formation of bombers from the rear.
1:57 how many rounds were on this plane? I read bout 165 rounds for every gun with 6 guns on the plane. Its like only 1 minute of fire in total. Is my math right here?
Good job.
One minute and already too many interruptions from ads. I'm out of here.
Angriff was a beast !!!...you didn't survive after he sighted you in !
what I find interesting about this footage (the B-17 part)
was that None of the tail gunners were shooting back, the same goes for the ball turret.
were these clips Part of the "Killing Blow" or just the general attack?
segar1234 I'm sure they were firing back but you just can't see the tracers from the .50's. you can't see the German tracer fire in most of the films either but you can see the hits.
segar1234 Maybe, might be hard to see. But I was thinking about it and those German pilots sure weren't acting like they were talking fire were they? Just lazily trailing the bombers.
Indeed interesting. Stats have proven that only a small percentage of Allied combat infantry actually fired their weapons in battle, I wonder if the same applies to air gunners? I would imagine that most gunners were too terrified to fire back due to the panic, seeing a hail of cannon tracers screaming at you would hardly make you feel in control.
Chezzers Or spray wildly an inaccurately. A lot of soldiers admitted to just trying to shoot in the general direction of the enemy in hopes of just scaring them off. So I would imagine that the same was true for a lot of gunners. But there's plenty of evidence that at least some gunners tried to shoot down German planes. The thousands and thousands of burned bf-109 and fw-190 crash sites all across Europe.
They were dead already
rip to all the airmen who lost their lives in those bombers!!!...
The first 2 clips were neither P38 Lightnings nor B-17s. Looked like Spitfires or Aerocobras.
Who’s the guy who sayy brothers father
At 8:22 you can see the Tail of the B-17 is already in flames :-o
These arent flames
What were those single-engine fighters before the Lightning? Looked a bit like Thunderbolts?
Lagg5 Russian aircraft
Has anyone ever seen any gun-camera footage involving a British Lancaster, Halifax or Stirling Bomber? After D-Day, the RAF moved to big daytime ops (the immense and pointless destruction of the Normandy city of Caen, for example). I doubt the British heavy bombers were any better able to absorb attacks from Luftwaffe fighters than the American B-17 and B-24. I wonder why they never got filmed being attacked.
Can you imagine the horror of riding along in a once perfectly sound airplane thats getting pounded into oblivion?
I wonder if some of this footage shows my brother's father dying in combat?
Albert OConnor maybe. a lot of good people faught in the war, and lost their lifes and future.
U mean your fathers brother
Old news and here we are one 🌏
I'm glad to see B-17 or any American zion aircraft downed by German pilots.
What music would normally accompany these?
Lance corporal cook engine sound?
Radio Streetsunited well they're either news films or military films for research purposes.
If they were part of news reals they'd normally have some sort of music with them. Similar to allied ones as gun cameras don't normally record noise.
If they were part of German news reel, there would be some march, I guess
Radio Streetsunited
Marches are not common in news reals
Lance corporal cook I am talkin bout "military" newsreels.
Many bombers survived attacks like this but many poor gunners died.
Tailgunners turned to pulp....
Never heard of an Me-109!
DontPwnMe Messerschmitt
MattKearneyFan1 I know it’s a Messerschmitt, but its actual designation was Bf-109, named after the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke, which was the company Willy Messerschmitt and Robert Lusser had designed the aircraft at. As Messerschmitt has been the chief designer, he named the aircraft the Messerschmitt Bf-109.
@@solanine9205 it was called Me 109 too
Foxtrot Although “Me 109” was never the correct nor official designation. Considering it’s a video with actual footage, one would expect the correct designation in the title.
You mean bf109?
Last video: It is NOT a fun time to be those guys. Good lord I don't know how you survive that hail of gunfire, pretty sure ya dont
PSA: In 2020, if you are a male of any age and you meet a guy named von Hinten, run away.
amateurs insist on renaming the Bf 109.
Everything so slow, no one shooting. Looks warthunder is harder than real life air combat.
nanab256 Bombers usually flew between 20,000 and 25,000 feet which affects speed of both the bombers and fighters trying to shoot them down. Especially if its an fw-190A-8 which had terrible high altitude performance. Also, there is a lot of shooting going on you just can’t see the tracers because it’s old film. You can definitely spot the sparks where the bullets land on some of the bombers.
2-2:30, not a single hit ?
Okay, I love this footage and I like to watch the real thing. Not no damn game CGI thing. But what I wanted to say is it's amazing how these b-17s take so much abuse and then never go down. At least from what they show us. The engineering of these b-17s was fantastic as they took a large amount of abuse and never seem to be shot down at least not with what they show us which is very limited by the way
12. and 15. 👍👍
WT players be like a 109 or 190 taking on a p38 no freaking way
WHY weren't the B-17 and B-24 shooting back? For instance, why wasn't the ball turret rotating and leveling the Brownings?
Prolly out of ammo or they were wounded/dead
Rear gunners were the first to be taken out.
Хорошо америкашек потрепали
Damn did War Thunder have some weird graphics at first
German pilots Iron cross or Wooden cross but they did their duty
Please put Cindy Lauper's song for the background music... The Luftwaffe boys were having so much fun
If only they had go pro bacjk theb
Watching Allied planes being shot down by the Luftwaffe always puts me in a good mood.
Why? Are you a Nazi?
@@timsytanker Maybe he doesn't like child murderers.
Just 10 Minutes ago i saw a bf 109 plane starting in USA whis a swastika in it's Tail. Everybody Praise this plane...but nobody ask this Poor young guys in a alliet Bomber plane
Those bomber planes must have been very strongly constructed, they are beaten up and just keep flying. To me it seems obvious the German pilots target the engines but when these are hit they just keep running, how is this possible.
American engineering.
.....hit the cooling system......the following failure is in every case the lost of engine or a structural problem.
At least they kept flying for a while, and still a long way home.
All crew KAPUT ..... nice!!!!!
War is over. How many did we lose in Vietnam? Anyone?
The received wisdom was the danger of the head on attack yet all this footage was tail on
Yes, but you can fire MUCH longer from the rear because your both traveling in the same direction, which likely results in more damage overall in a single pass.
@@bobmalack481
Attacking astern was likely the most common as the Luftwaffe pilots were often having to climb and chase the bombers. Given the opportunity they would I think have preferred head on or beam attacks. Best of all, I think, gain height above and behind enemy bombers, then zoom climb and attack from below allowing target to cross field of fire.
Despite the damage being inflicted on bombers the Germans were massively disadvantaged, mostly I would suggest by poor radar and vectoring onto enemy formations.
This contrasts with the RAF during the Battle of Britain; in theory they had far poorer aircraft and aircrew yet enjoyed much greater success because of very effective radar and aerial organisation of forces.
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Лагг не хватило маневрености чтобы уйти от атаки.
Скорее из-за не высокой квалификации и опыта, а так же от слабой переносимости больших перегрузок. Ну грубо говоря он не видит фокера + не может энергично маневрировать. А может и у самолета проблемы... кто ж теперь разберет что там было..
Rheinmetall Borsig 30 mm cannons
Some of these Krauts got in really close before they broke off, I'm wondering if they didn't run out of amo, you would think they would have had all four 20mm cannons and both 7.62 machine guns blazing the closer they got.
We are the last to leave a party.
Would have completely screwed up accuracy having all the guns firing at once. Would make the plane shake.
The FW 190 A/7 "Sturmbock" had a devastating weaponery with 2x13mm MG131 in the nose, 2x13mm MG131 in the wing root and two Rheinmetall-Borsig Mk108 30mm. The mine -projectile of the Mk108 had a slightely delayed explosion and explode inside the structure of the plane...devastating
I guarantee you he did not shoot down that P-38 Lightning he may have hit it but not down it
you never know.
P38 only had speed but no match in a turn fight especially at altitude escorting bombers if this was the case... a 109 and 190 would’ve ate it for lunch
I guess 30mm canon could outrange the 50mm used by the rear gunner. So those guys were dead before they had a chance to put any rounds down.
Thay had 50 caliber not 50 mm
@@vonsauerkraut and the difference is Mr Know It All?
@@bastogne315 the difference is gigantic. 50 mm... lol.
stop being a twat think about it 50mm is a canon its what a panzer 4 had
von sauerkraut These people died for our tomorrow and all your interested in is semantics......sad!!
Bf-109.
El video es bueno,pero falta un relator o comentario de la accion
First we witness the death of the tailgunner, then the ball turret and side gunners, radio man.. "Kids"- 19 and 20 years old.
@Y TThey knew what they were doing all right... Germany was the agressor here. They declared war on the USA right after Japan's sneak attack. They had already invaded half of Europe and were bombing the Brits into submission! That's what the "kids" knew.
@@fatimeoomyadin8213 They didnt decide anything, they were following orders. Unless you want to also blame the civilians that were bombed for instigating WW2 and for the the holocaust!
Hey hey. Nobody, on either side of the war was without sin.
As for Germany, stuka pilots didn't show mercy to the polish women and children, what about the invasion of the Soviet union? The oppression of france? The bombing of England?
The allies also share just as much sin. The bombing of Germany, the pounding of Berlin, and the slaughter of all germans when the Russians invaded. Namely, the detonation of two atomic bombs over major cities. And yet still, Germany and japan brought it unto themselves.
Tail and ball turret gunners lives we're not fun at all.
difficault to watch
why?
This films are all stolen in, from Germany.
I think "captured" is a more appropriate word. We probably gave them back, post war. And copies are fairly easy to make.
Most only 50 % Bail Out, Hit by special Ammo, Spreng, Brand, Minen, Hartkern, Brand / Spreng.Have a Weapon Magazin Special, over 40 Years old, LW Hunter Ammo lot of Pages...
And then the Centrifugal Forces they cannot move.... On German Pilot Peter Spoden, sit wrong on his Me 110 Aileron for some hundred Meters, then he come free.... In the Night !!!
funny how many hollywood fanboys are triggered here, because some german pilots kicking asses of allies
Arc Trooper I think it’s all in your head dude there’s barely any of those comments on here.
@@CyberRelic280 yes they are. And i think you are one of those fanboys 😘
Arc Trooper lol all I did was scroll through the comments and could only find one which still means you’re blowing it out of proportion. Oh and I’m actually quite interested in these videos as I haven’t really looked at gun camera footage from German pilots before. I’m not a “Hollywood” fanboy or whatever. I’m just pointing out that you’re on a which hunt here.
@@CyberRelic280 and i did the same
Arc Trooper I doubt it but go ahead and think whatever makes you feel better.
homo homini lupus..
And with a complex addon
Fire at the backlight and the tailgunner runs for cover! easy.
The lightning engagement was a waste of time. Spraying rounds all over the shop and nothing hit.
I think you'll find that the overwhelming majority of all ammunition ever fired in war never hit anything.