I believe the current service rules state that the ball must be projected upward near vertically. If a ball traverses half the width of the table before it is hit by the server I suggest that the serve was improper. I can't answer for judges who choose to ignore some portion of the rules, I'm simply saying that many players' serves do not fit the rules' description of a proper service.
" Near vertically" but without a clear & strict regulation, normally within 15 angle, depends on umpire 's judgement, However, nobody'll serve the ball purposely unvertical since it won't add too much difficulty to the receiver & might offense the opponent or especially the umpires & be punished by losing the point...
By 2010, 38-year-old Schlager had already been in the twilight zone of his TT career before he met the rising dragon Ma Long in his prime here. His loss was the only possibility. 0 - 4 was the RIGHT score for him. Ma Long beat him both tactically and strategically. ☆☆☆☆☆
Schlager's upper arm was too wide open in playing table tennis and that's supposed to influence his stability within middle court, more like playing tennis than table tennis, He can still play that good is somehow a little bit unbelievable...
some of WS serves were illegal. WS relied too much on serves and his quirky BH but he is lacking on footwork and FH techniques. No way he can win again somebody like ML whose techniques were better all around.
First of all Ma Long's serve and backhand were nowhere near Schlager's.Schlager beat Ma Lin who had the best serve return and serve combo ever so he is no slouch.Schlager was probably the first shakehand player who used the reverse serve which is quite an innovation. He was one of the few players who had a great serve without obstructing the ball with his body.Even Ma Lin cheated with his left hand,Ma Long obstructed the ball with his head etc. He was old and it's a post speed glue ban match which hurt his game.His footwork was never top notch cause he lacked footwork intensive training in his early years. He lived in Austria which lacked the talent depth of Sweden or Germany that of course affected his technical development.His forehand as a pure stroke was fine.He produced tons of speed and spin;certainly better than Boll-Samsonov. What he lacked in footwork he compensated brilliantly with his creativity and intelligence. He became the World Champion beating 2 of the greatest Chinese champions of all time.He is a brilliant player.His unconventional style brought more success than Boll's hyped game which was pretty uninspired and always fell short in big matches.
Uhhh... the dude is about 38 years old at the time of this match. Why are you all celebrating Ma Long so much in this video? This doesn't serve Ma Long's skill a lot of justice.
Schlager's serve is one of the few that actually follows the rules of proper service.
+Schluesselmensch same for Samsonov
Samsonov's service is probably the most legal service of them all.
Schlager's serve is much too proper. but that doesn't mean other player' serve isn't proper...
I believe the current service rules state that the ball must be projected upward near vertically. If a ball traverses half the width of the table before it is hit by the server I suggest that the serve was improper. I can't answer for judges who choose to ignore some portion of the rules, I'm simply saying that many players' serves do not fit the rules' description of a proper service.
" Near vertically" but without a clear & strict regulation, normally within 15 angle, depends on umpire 's judgement, However, nobody'll serve the ball purposely unvertical since it won't add too much difficulty to the receiver & might offense the opponent or especially the umpires & be punished by losing the point...
By 2010, 38-year-old Schlager had already been in the twilight zone of his TT career before he met the rising dragon Ma Long in his prime here. His loss was the only possibility. 0 - 4 was the RIGHT score for him. Ma Long beat him both tactically and strategically. ☆☆☆☆☆
Why wasn't Ma Long serve allowed at 1:24? Someone knowing the rules please reply.
+Bledi He might possibly have struck the ball on his serve ahead of the service line?
+Bledi if you look closely enough it touched his shirt. he also pointed at his shirt after the serve and looked at the umpire so that he understand
hahaha! what the hell was happening to Werner Schlager's hands at 25:16? LOL
because of age schlager lost obviously when you must win someone who you had your entire life to study his style. ma long can be schlager's kid.
max sattern this match was in 2010, ie. 5 years back.
ma long at present is far too good for any player
Damn
Schlager's upper arm was too wide open in playing table tennis and that's supposed to influence his stability within middle court, more like playing tennis than table tennis, He can still play that good is somehow a little bit unbelievable...
DJOHNSON Li who are you to critisize a worls champion
A table tennis player, a big fan of the world top players and a commentator as well...
DJOHNSON Li schlager would beat you 11-0
Even so, it won't change a bit I mentioned...
DJOHNSON Li you're a clueless idiot
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some of WS serves were illegal. WS relied too much on serves and his quirky BH but he is lacking on footwork and FH techniques. No way he can win again somebody like ML whose techniques were better all around.
First of all Ma Long's serve and backhand were nowhere near Schlager's.Schlager beat Ma Lin who had the best serve return and serve combo ever so he is no slouch.Schlager was probably the first shakehand player who used the reverse serve which is quite an innovation. He was one of the few players who had a great serve without obstructing the ball with his body.Even Ma Lin cheated with his left hand,Ma Long obstructed the ball with his head etc.
He was old and it's a post speed glue ban match which hurt his game.His footwork was never top notch cause he lacked footwork intensive training in his early years.
He lived in Austria which lacked the talent depth of Sweden or Germany that of course affected his technical development.His forehand as a pure stroke was fine.He produced tons of speed and spin;certainly better than Boll-Samsonov.
What he lacked in footwork he compensated brilliantly with his creativity and intelligence. He became the World Champion beating 2 of the greatest Chinese champions of all time.He is a brilliant player.His unconventional style brought more success than Boll's hyped game which was pretty uninspired and always fell short in big matches.
Schlager used different serve in this match
"Carlos" Why don't you asked for Italian ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
M C:why have to speak English ?!
he always uses different serve
Uhhh... the dude is about 38 years old at the time of this match. Why are you all celebrating Ma Long so much in this video? This doesn't serve Ma Long's skill a lot of justice.
Old lion tried to tame the tiger. Nice match, clever serve from Schlager.
Old lion tried to tame the tiger. Nice match, clever serve from Schlager.
Anyone know what LGL is saying at 8:00 ?
Horrible condescending commentators..
Ma Long SHREDER OF TABLE TENIS :D
+Meandonlyme Andher Not Schlager's time anymore...
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