A very helpful video! It warms my heart to see equipment like bags used for a longer time, it's far more sustainable and combats the idea that you "have" to change your look and clothing etc. all the time (which is the idea pushed by ads). The wear and tear at the bottom of the bag is surprisingly quite minimal, considering how actively you have used the bag. The ripped seam, I think, could be quite easily mended, especially if one has access to e.g. strips of leather or some sturdy natural fiber fabric. I just bought a Räven bag after completely wearing out a normal Kånken backpack (only used it at university, but for 6 years, sharp-edged heavy books did a number on it). It is good to know that the bottom is the most susceptible to damage, so I'll maybe sew some strenghtening material to the bottom before any damage appears in the first place. Thank you for the video!
thank you very much for this, this is one of the most useful videos on youtube, its easy to show a new bag but to see how they wear after a long time is invaluable!!!!!.. you can see them around a lot these days and the truth is they are good looking ;)
Had mine for about 6-7 years. This exact backpack. Rips at the bottom in the exact same spots. I use it most everyday for work and I’ve washed it a few times. Holding up well so far.
Like many have said. This video is gold for people wanting to buy it. I just bought the version two in the same color and im in love with it. I said to myself in the store after purchasing it that i will have this one for a long time. And its great seeing this video afterwards about how well it will hold up. You seem to be very active with it. Thanks bro
Had a Haglöfs Tight for +15 years now. Zippers recently failed after much abuse and the waterproof interior lining has started to deteriorate. The bottom, exterior, straps are all fine. It's not a beauty but while I look for a replacement now - here with the bottom worn through is an absolute deal breaker! I actually had this wear happen on one of their winter jackets as well... so while Fjällraven looks great, for that price I want the stuff to last for 10 years minimum.
Thanks for the tip off about the wear and tear on the bottom. I think I'll avoid placing it on hard / rough surfaces on that hard edge. Maybe just place it on its back instead.
Nice review. I have the 20L version and have used it for 3+ years daily. It's still in perfect condition minus a bit of fading. I wish they'd implement the shoulder straps on their other bags along with the slanted side pockets. They are so practical and easy to reach on the go.
This is the most helpful review I've come across for this Raven 28L! Thank you so much! I combed through every reddit thread, blogs, videos... for days 😆 Needed to know if it will fit my Macbook Pro 16 inch 2021 and your 17 inch Macbook confirms it!
Got this too. Great for all round use. Can travel or just walk around a bit, quite light and surprisingly big. Good on the back too. The zippers are a great upgrade compared to the cheap dell bag i used before. Worth the price id say.
I do IT work and just bought this bag hoping it would be a good replacement for my old OGIO that lasted 11 years. This makes me worry about the longevity of the bottom part. I normally throw my bags on the floor when I'm working in various situations. Guess time will tell.
I have newly brought a g1000 Raven 20 and a drop of SPF to the bag. I tried to wash it with dish soap, make up remover for a couple of times and it stills stay here… while I may wash out the wax a bit and need to top up… very frustrating🥲 any tips? Thanks!
i have the raven 20 which is only one year old and only used for office commute, but the bottom edge has been discolored possibly by abrasion with clothes and seems it will be worn out like yours anytime. Reinforcement should be made at that position which is rather common in other backpack brands. While i like their aesthetics i’m rather disappointed with their quality and will not buy their products again.
I've had mine now for a couple of years, only difference being I've got it in black. Mine is pretty faded unfortunately, which isn't a big issue, however just wonder if anyone had any tips or had dyed theirs?
So one of the most expensive packs out there are like this after 3 yrs?! All those rips and tears are rather uncommon with 500D or 1000D cordura packs.
@@den2335 but for this size it is not cheap at all. It is well over everything what popular brands, like TNF, can offer and mostly over military style, cordura packs in this volume. For this type of money you can go for backpacking type big pack from Gregory or Osprey even.
How have you found it for airline travel? I'm debating getting one for travel but I think it might be too large to get away with as airline carry on in most of Europe.
What is the warranty for their products? they claim limited lifetime, which essentially means the lifetime of the product. I wonder if anyone has experience with a warranty claim.
7:20 - resistent nor proofed, you can never have anything in heavy rain even waterproof fabrics give in, this is cotton so common sense advised if you're in wet conditions.
The bottom part is not acceptable ! I have got a Skogsö jaket. The inside of the sleeves have a few holes and wear appear after only 1,5 years of moderate wear. I have a cheap M65 parker with a simular fabric 65/35 poly/cotton. I did wear this for 10 years in winter with insulation autum and spring without and even on colder summer days. It didnt wear of even after 10 years. I think the quality here from FJ is planned obsolescence.
Of course it is, 99% of the big brands out there live off their achieved and self promoted legacy (if they make it). All designed in Europe and made elsewhere, hyped up and most customers are not used to real good quality, they might never even seen barely used a fine quality made product. So what have we, companies selling more, people buying more etc. People don't use anything more than about 2 years these days =) I still use the backpack as it still serves my needs, the wear has gotten more at that bottom part, but elsewhere it's in super shape. Will patch it later.
I also have this bag . I think it's a decent bag . However i heavily modified my one , i have no need for a laptop compartment, so i ripped out the rubber/ nylon and back support , to make one big compartment from the g1000 on the back to the front compartment. This makes a great bucket style bag for shopping. Yes that's right i mainly use it for shopping. I find it not the best for hiking, i have much better bags for that , but as a general use bag it's fine .
I can’t distinguish the accent but it’s totally different and cute , r u from russia/ ukraine/ belarus? U sound so much like if u were from one of those countries
A great bag for urban use. The real use you gave to it is most likely not the intended. I'd recommend not using this bag for the outdoors. Get a trekking pack even if it's cheap. Don't ruin a good urban backpack.
I have a Fjällräven Singi 20L since 2019 and its as good as new with no splitting of the fabric at the bottom. You are supposed to wax them every 6 months. Not put them in a washing machine!!!!
It tore apart long before being washed for the first time. You can wash them, big surprise for you? Why do you think they (or other companies) don't recommend washing? It's because people will do it wrong and complain on the product. By not recommending the company guard itself from failure complaints. Cotton can be washed... Waxing is needed for water repelling functions, not necessary otherwise, which depends on ones usage. There are backpacks that are stronger than this one. Although this one is really practical and all around well built.
@@sanjindumisic - G1000 is not designed to be washed. Mine has been on at least 40 trips in northern Norway. I always check the bottom of the bag for signs of wearing. There are none. It’s been left in the snow in -20+ climates and is perfect still. That material does not degrade like you have shown unless the material has been compromised in some way. I look after my kit, you obviously do not.
@@markjohnson2166 I've seen many customers and all who had this backpack had the same problem (mass quality problem). Even more than mine, which was in better shape than most after 3 years. Every material can be washed, rain is water... 30 degrees every cotton material can stand. As you missed reading above, the washing did not tear the bottom, it degenerated long before. Didn't mean to trigger you, keep looking after your sweet little backpack.
@@sanjindumisic - Then you should write letter of complaint to manufacture. It could be because they using recycled materials which will degrade far quicker than they or customer thought. No problem with that assessment if true but buying public needs to know etc. Peace.
I have no complaints. This video plus the initial review video suffices as my product opinion, not complaint. More people have use of this video than an obscure email to their support. I'm actually very satisfied with the backpack. A handful of years with a tad bit tearing is ok. /All the Best
it looks like Fjallraven is just another overrated company with overhyped marketing, overpriced products and with customers fooled by their 'Nordic heritage'. Too bad, because their design is quite decent and minimalistic.
I love it when Equipment ages with you and you start having memories with it
So true!
This is a great video, not often you get to see a 3 years later review. Many thanks!
Let's see a SIX year review!
A very helpful video! It warms my heart to see equipment like bags used for a longer time, it's far more sustainable and combats the idea that you "have" to change your look and clothing etc. all the time (which is the idea pushed by ads).
The wear and tear at the bottom of the bag is surprisingly quite minimal, considering how actively you have used the bag. The ripped seam, I think, could be quite easily mended, especially if one has access to e.g. strips of leather or some sturdy natural fiber fabric. I just bought a Räven bag after completely wearing out a normal Kånken backpack (only used it at university, but for 6 years, sharp-edged heavy books did a number on it). It is good to know that the bottom is the most susceptible to damage, so I'll maybe sew some strenghtening material to the bottom before any damage appears in the first place. Thank you for the video!
For sure! Good products last forever sort of =)
thank you very much for this, this is one of the most useful videos on youtube, its easy to show a new bag but to see how they wear after a long time is invaluable!!!!!.. you can see them around a lot these days and the truth is they are good looking ;)
Had mine for about 6-7 years. This exact backpack. Rips at the bottom in the exact same spots. I use it most everyday for work and I’ve washed it a few times. Holding up well so far.
Like many have said. This video is gold for people wanting to buy it. I just bought the version two in the same color and im in love with it. I said to myself in the store after purchasing it that i will have this one for a long time. And its great seeing this video afterwards about how well it will hold up. You seem to be very active with it. Thanks bro
Thank you and I'm glad the video was of use!
Great video! Very helpful to see a video that shows the wear and tear after 3 years of use.
Had a Haglöfs Tight for +15 years now. Zippers recently failed after much abuse and the waterproof interior lining has started to deteriorate. The bottom, exterior, straps are all fine. It's not a beauty but while I look for a replacement now - here with the bottom worn through is an absolute deal breaker! I actually had this wear happen on one of their winter jackets as well... so while Fjällraven looks great, for that price I want the stuff to last for 10 years minimum.
Thanks for the tip off about the wear and tear on the bottom. I think I'll avoid placing it on hard / rough surfaces on that hard edge. Maybe just place it on its back instead.
Well done review...just got the version 2 and I hope it holds up as well!
I’ve been researching backpacks for a bit now and this video has leaned me towards getting this one. Thanks for the review!
Good pick! Glad the video helped out.
I bought the backpack after seeing your first review. Thank you very much!😀
Nice review. I have the 20L version and have used it for 3+ years daily. It's still in perfect condition minus a bit of fading. I wish they'd implement the shoulder straps on their other bags along with the slanted side pockets. They are so practical and easy to reach on the go.
How's the backpadding of the backpack?
I have mine for about 2 years now and still as good as it was when I bought it. However due to sun and ageing mine a bit brown
This is the most helpful review I've come across for this Raven 28L! Thank you so much! I combed through every reddit thread, blogs, videos... for days 😆 Needed to know if it will fit my Macbook Pro 16 inch 2021 and your 17 inch Macbook confirms it!
Glad to hear it helped out!
Got this too. Great for all round use. Can travel or just walk around a bit, quite light and surprisingly big. Good on the back too. The zippers are a great upgrade compared to the cheap dell bag i used before. Worth the price id say.
Mine had the same wear on bottom after less than a year. I stopped using it for everyday carry to work.
loved this review! very useful
Glad it helped out!
the hole on the bottom doesn't worry you? It would seem to be pretty important.
It's not a hole yet, and leads nowhere. When it's time, it'll be patched up. Save the worries for bigger things.
0:42 what 17 inch laptop you put in the bag? i have 40x27.5x2.5 size 17 inch laptop. Do you think it will fit in the bag?
Thank you this is exactly what I was looking for!!! Great video! Also what colour was that??
Hey! It's olive green.
Sanjin thank you!!!
I do IT work and just bought this bag hoping it would be a good replacement for my old OGIO that lasted 11 years. This makes me worry about the longevity of the bottom part. I normally throw my bags on the floor when I'm working in various situations. Guess time will tell.
You could patch the bottom with some cotton weave tape and darning and then wax it
👌🏻good tip!
I have newly brought a g1000 Raven 20 and a drop of SPF to the bag. I tried to wash it with dish soap, make up remover for a couple of times and it stills stay here… while I may wash out the wax a bit and need to top up… very frustrating🥲 any tips? Thanks!
i have the raven 20 which is only one year old and only used for office commute, but the bottom edge has been discolored possibly by abrasion with clothes and seems it will be worn out like yours anytime. Reinforcement should be made at that position which is rather common in other backpack brands. While i like their aesthetics i’m rather disappointed with their quality and will not buy their products again.
does the ulvo 30 also have that tearing problem ?
Does anyone know please, will the side pockets hold a 32oz nalgene bottle?
I've had mine now for a couple of years, only difference being I've got it in black. Mine is pretty faded unfortunately, which isn't a big issue, however just wonder if anyone had any tips or had dyed theirs?
So one of the most expensive packs out there are like this after 3 yrs?! All those rips and tears are rather uncommon with 500D or 1000D cordura packs.
Mine is decent. I’ve seen worse 😁
evol This is nowhere near one of the most expensive packs...
@@den2335 but for this size it is not cheap at all. It is well over everything what popular brands, like TNF, can offer and mostly over military style, cordura packs in this volume. For this type of money you can go for backpacking type big pack from Gregory or Osprey even.
Maybe it’s like that from washing it? As you said, they don’t recommend it.
It happens even if you don’t wash it. Seen on many others.
what color is this?
is it the dark olive?
How have you found it for airline travel?
I'm debating getting one for travel but I think it might be too large to get away with as airline carry on in most of Europe.
I've travelled with it years ago, but the airline companies are shrinking the size so a toy purse is about what you can bring along =)
What is the warranty for their products? they claim limited lifetime, which essentially means the lifetime of the product. I wonder if anyone has experience with a warranty claim.
I did and they never ship me the new bag they promise.
Can it withstand the rain, snow and do you find your belongings getting wet?
7:20 - resistent nor proofed, you can never have anything in heavy rain even waterproof fabrics give in, this is cotton so common sense advised if you're in wet conditions.
Hello, what is your color for this bag please :) ?
Olive green.
@@sanjindumisic thanks
You should patch the bottom of the pack so it will work for many more years. Or at least use some thread and sew the tearing in the bottom.
The bottom part is not acceptable ! I have got a Skogsö jaket. The inside of the sleeves have a few holes and wear appear after only 1,5 years of moderate wear. I have a cheap M65 parker with a simular fabric 65/35 poly/cotton. I did wear this for 10 years in winter with insulation autum and spring without and even on colder summer days. It didnt wear of even after 10 years. I think the quality here from FJ is planned obsolescence.
Of course it is, 99% of the big brands out there live off their achieved and self promoted legacy (if they make it). All designed in Europe and made elsewhere, hyped up and most customers are not used to real good quality, they might never even seen barely used a fine quality made product. So what have we, companies selling more, people buying more etc. People don't use anything more than about 2 years these days =) I still use the backpack as it still serves my needs, the wear has gotten more at that bottom part, but elsewhere it's in super shape. Will patch it later.
Skogsö jacket is g1000 light, it is less rugged then g1000 original.
I also have this bag . I think it's a decent bag . However i heavily modified my one , i have no need for a laptop compartment, so i ripped out the rubber/ nylon and back support , to make one big compartment from the g1000 on the back to the front compartment. This makes a great bucket style bag for shopping. Yes that's right i mainly use it for shopping. I find it not the best for hiking, i have much better bags for that , but as a general use bag it's fine .
Great review! This backpack would be just perfect if it had compression straps. I might just go wizth the 20l
I can’t distinguish the accent but it’s totally different and cute , r u from russia/ ukraine/ belarus? U sound so much like if u were from one of those countries
You're right but it's another Slavic language, Bosnian. Besides my primary Swedish.
The bottom part😱 did you put a body in it and drag it on the ground
Design flaw. Happens to all of these after 2-3 years. Seen other examples besides my own. No body dragging involved at all.
Mine after 1 year is still fine. Gonna be extra careful with this. Will update again next year 🙌
@@sanjindumisic mine got those holes after 1 year (everyday use).
Mārtiņš Līvens It’s typical for them, 1-2 years and they start to open up =)
Have the bottom sewn over with leather, and this thing will last the rest of your life.
A great bag for urban use. The real use you gave to it is most likely not the intended. I'd recommend not using this bag for the outdoors. Get a trekking pack even if it's cheap. Don't ruin a good urban backpack.
使い込んだ勲章ですね。
I have a Fjällräven Singi 20L since 2019 and its as good as new with no splitting of the fabric at the bottom. You are supposed to wax them every 6 months. Not put them in a washing machine!!!!
It tore apart long before being washed for the first time. You can wash them, big surprise for you? Why do you think they (or other companies) don't recommend washing? It's because people will do it wrong and complain on the product. By not recommending the company guard itself from failure complaints. Cotton can be washed... Waxing is needed for water repelling functions, not necessary otherwise, which depends on ones usage. There are backpacks that are stronger than this one. Although this one is really practical and all around well built.
@@sanjindumisic - G1000 is not designed to be washed. Mine has been on at least 40 trips in northern Norway. I always check the bottom of the bag for signs of wearing. There are none. It’s been left in the snow in -20+ climates and is perfect still. That material does not degrade like you have shown unless the material has been compromised in some way. I look after my kit, you obviously do not.
@@markjohnson2166 I've seen many customers and all who had this backpack had the same problem (mass quality problem). Even more than mine, which was in better shape than most after 3 years. Every material can be washed, rain is water... 30 degrees every cotton material can stand. As you missed reading above, the washing did not tear the bottom, it degenerated long before. Didn't mean to trigger you, keep looking after your sweet little backpack.
@@sanjindumisic - Then you should write letter of complaint to manufacture. It could be because they using recycled materials which will degrade far quicker than they or customer thought. No problem with that assessment if true but buying public needs to know etc. Peace.
I have no complaints. This video plus the initial review video suffices as my product opinion, not complaint. More people have use of this video than an obscure email to their support. I'm actually very satisfied with the backpack. A handful of years with a tad bit tearing is ok. /All the Best
digital colonizer where?
it looks like Fjallraven is just another overrated company with overhyped marketing, overpriced products and with customers fooled by their 'Nordic heritage'. Too bad, because their design is quite decent and minimalistic.