I installed these on Maryland's Eastern Shore in the late 80's. We used to tote a CS4000 around to program them which was a hoot. One selling point was that each zone could be individually identified at time when a lot of panels were doing single digit - all burg zones tripped the same report. Watching the demo here brought back quite a few memories.
Awesome video! love to see the older burg systems in action. I had one of these panels given to me when I first started collecting and got rid of it because i had nothing but the panel, no way to use it.. And literally just the other day found a box in the shop at work full of parts for these systems, programmers, keypads, all kinds of stuff taken from upgrades. Kicking myself 😅
Really interesting how these old security systems work. I never knew there were other levels of protection besides stay and away. I never even heard of "night" mode until watching this video.
Very nice. I found this video (like all your other videos) very informative and interesting. Its because of you that I started collecting and wiring alarm devices together. In fact, I even got a few internship opportunities with fire protection companies like “Mitec” and “Southern Signal”.
Fun fact, they still use subdisarm in GE Simon panels, I have the Simon 2 and 3 and if you enter the MASTER (not user) code twice, it will flash the disarmed button meaning it is subdisarmed. Pretty sweet
The Simon XT has something similar to special arming called subdisarming. Subdiarmable sensors are armed all the time from system power up unless a user code is entered while the system is disarmed, then they will be disarmed for 30 minutes or so.
3:49 I see according to the sticker on the left there that your SX-V was apparently made on August 17th, 1990 (& one of the chips is marked September 1st, 1989). 3:59 Glad you don't have to take the whole motherboard out just to replace the battery (which I how I thought it'd be done). 4:36 Kind of a design flaw I'd say (especially if the system doesn't have any wired keypads & the panel is mounted in a hard-to-reach area). 5:45 Now _that_ is neat! (though I suppose it's not much different from what current systems do) Clever idea with the zone switches too. 6:38 Pretty much what chime mode on current panels does. 8:05 Pretty much the same as with current panels. 8:08 In this case at least it's "1234", on an actual system it'd be more random of course. 9:43 Huh, never seen anything like that before (though I guess this explains why that one keypad said "PROTEST" in the previous episode). Also given the fact that you tried to arm the system while the zone _wasn't_ bypassed (having just un-bypassed it), what you said before then was incorrect (you armed the system while the zone was _faulted_ & _unbypassed,_ not while it was _bypassed_ ). 9:58 Clever & convenient that you can still arm *&* have the panel auto-bypass any open zones, unlike with today's panels where you have to first bypass any open zones manually & _then_ arm the system. 10:39 Surprised you didn't have ear protection on right from the start. 10:52 Huh, odd. 14:06 Heh. Maybe some current systems oughta take inspiration from the SX-V, given how different it is in some aspects to most modern panels (& how some features are somewhat better than those on current panels, or are even nonexistent).
I don't get the purpose of night mode. Isn't arming in stay/away essentially the same thing? (Side note: the portable panel looks very unique with the wood trim and gold buttons, almost like an 'executive' finish 👀)
Night can be used to turn on some interior sensors to cover areas the occupants won't be in during the night such as a garage or a basement. It’s more useful in larger houses than smaller houses.
I presume on this system there's no 2 way communication between the CPU and the wireless keypad, correct? Does that wireless keypad have a battery in it or must it be plugged in? On systems of this vintage, were the wireless sensors etc susceptible to radio interference or false triggers caused by other nearby electronic devices such as, say, a wireless doorbell or car entry keyfob etc?
It’s one-way communication. Uses a small 3 V lithium battery. Technically anything is susceptible to radio interference but ITI was careful about the frequency they chose to minimize the risk as much as possible. I haven’t heard of one being set off by interference though.
Hey, I am getting a ITI Caretaker (Not the plus, just “Caretaker”) from my uncle. I don’t know much about these panels but I would like too. Is there any information you have that could help me? (manuals, models of programmers, wireless contacts, etc) Thanks so much!
The original CareTaker was the next evolution in the ITI product line after the SX series, but it still uses the same types of sensors, so unless you have a handheld programmer like the one I have, there’s not going to be a lot you can do with it, you’ll have to use the sensors as whatever they are already programmed as. You’re also going to be limited without a CS-4000 Central Station Receiver (and these are getting difficult to find for cheap)
@@NewAgeServerAlarm ah thank you, I ended up finding the manual, and it said I do not need a handheld programmer surprisingly, it can be done with a female to female Ribbon cable directly from the panel to the sensor. Then it is programmed over touch tone telephone. What things would I need the CS-4000 for?
I installed these on Maryland's Eastern Shore in the late 80's. We used to tote a CS4000 around to program them which was a hoot. One selling point was that each zone could be individually identified at time when a lot of panels were doing single digit - all burg zones tripped the same report. Watching the demo here brought back quite a few memories.
I have a CS-4000 myself and wow that must’ve been i pain to lug one around whenever you needed to put in a system
I installed lots of those. The range to the Sensors was very impressive!
Awesome video! love to see the older burg systems in action. I had one of these panels given to me when I first started collecting and got rid of it because i had nothing but the panel, no way to use it.. And literally just the other day found a box in the shop at work full of parts for these systems, programmers, keypads, all kinds of stuff taken from upgrades. Kicking myself 😅
Did you keep the parts you found?
@@NewAgeServerAlarm Yea, just in case.. almost no chance we will come across one still out there that needs parts, but you never know.
Really interesting how these old security systems work. I never knew there were other levels of protection besides stay and away. I never even heard of "night" mode until watching this video.
Wow. It's been a while since I saw your videos. Glad to see you back!
Getting a New NewAgeServerAlarm (Redundant much?) video is one of the best birthday gifts ever!
Very nice. I found this video (like all your other videos) very informative and interesting. Its because of you that I started collecting and wiring alarm devices together. In fact, I even got a few internship opportunities with fire protection companies like “Mitec” and “Southern Signal”.
Fun fact, they still use subdisarm in GE Simon panels, I have the Simon 2 and 3 and if you enter the MASTER (not user) code twice, it will flash the disarmed button meaning it is subdisarmed.
Pretty sweet
I have a Simon XT so yeah i've played with that before
@@NewAgeServerAlarm it is a cool feature though mine is not programmed at all
Oh yeah, I wanted to mention; ITI had an SX-IV that preceded this control. The wireless got better with the SX-V.
Awesome tutorial and demonstration!
The Simon XT has something similar to special arming called subdisarming. Subdiarmable sensors are armed all the time from system power up unless a user code is entered while the system is disarmed, then they will be disarmed for 30 minutes or so.
Lovely new intro! I'm curious if we'll see every piece of it, eventually...? - HL
There's going to be more videos on it
3:49 I see according to the sticker on the left there that your SX-V was apparently made on August 17th, 1990 (& one of the chips is marked September 1st, 1989).
3:59 Glad you don't have to take the whole motherboard out just to replace the battery (which I how I thought it'd be done).
4:36 Kind of a design flaw I'd say (especially if the system doesn't have any wired keypads & the panel is mounted in a hard-to-reach area).
5:45 Now _that_ is neat! (though I suppose it's not much different from what current systems do) Clever idea with the zone switches too.
6:38 Pretty much what chime mode on current panels does.
8:05 Pretty much the same as with current panels.
8:08 In this case at least it's "1234", on an actual system it'd be more random of course.
9:43 Huh, never seen anything like that before (though I guess this explains why that one keypad said "PROTEST" in the previous episode). Also given the fact that you tried to arm the system while the zone _wasn't_ bypassed (having just un-bypassed it), what you said before then was incorrect (you armed the system while the zone was _faulted_ & _unbypassed,_ not while it was _bypassed_ ).
9:58 Clever & convenient that you can still arm *&* have the panel auto-bypass any open zones, unlike with today's panels where you have to first bypass any open zones manually & _then_ arm the system.
10:39 Surprised you didn't have ear protection on right from the start.
10:52 Huh, odd.
14:06 Heh.
Maybe some current systems oughta take inspiration from the SX-V, given how different it is in some aspects to most modern panels (& how some features are somewhat better than those on current panels, or are even nonexistent).
The panel design is similar to a safe house panel I have, sad they do not make panels like this anymore.
Neat little panel and system :)
Coooool
I don't get the purpose of night mode. Isn't arming in stay/away essentially the same thing? (Side note: the portable panel looks very unique with the wood trim and gold buttons, almost like an 'executive' finish 👀)
Night can be used to turn on some interior sensors to cover areas the occupants won't be in during the night such as a garage or a basement. It’s more useful in larger houses than smaller houses.
Nice
Awesome video!
I presume on this system there's no 2 way communication between the CPU and the wireless keypad, correct? Does that wireless keypad have a battery in it or must it be plugged in? On systems of this vintage, were the wireless sensors etc susceptible to radio interference or false triggers caused by other nearby electronic devices such as, say, a wireless doorbell or car entry keyfob etc?
It’s one-way communication.
Uses a small 3 V lithium battery.
Technically anything is susceptible to radio interference but ITI was careful about the frequency they chose to minimize the risk as much as possible. I haven’t heard of one being set off by interference though.
Was that "Spread Spectrum"?@@NewAgeServerAlarm
Neat demo!
Neat little system
Hey, I am getting a ITI Caretaker (Not the plus, just “Caretaker”) from my uncle. I don’t know much about these panels but I would like too. Is there any information you have that could help me? (manuals, models of programmers, wireless contacts, etc) Thanks so much!
The original CareTaker was the next evolution in the ITI product line after the SX series, but it still uses the same types of sensors, so unless you have a handheld programmer like the one I have, there’s not going to be a lot you can do with it, you’ll have to use the sensors as whatever they are already programmed as. You’re also going to be limited without a CS-4000 Central Station Receiver (and these are getting difficult to find for cheap)
@@NewAgeServerAlarm ah thank you, I ended up finding the manual, and it said I do not need a handheld programmer surprisingly, it can be done with a female to female Ribbon cable directly from the panel to the sensor. Then it is programmed over touch tone telephone. What things would I need the CS-4000 for?
@@Firealarmcollectorpersonlate but a CS-4000 allows you to program things like user codes, phone numbers, sensors ,etc.
What’s your opinion on the 2000s Napco systems?
Very retro
idk why that panel kind of reminds me of a old fire alarm panel from 80s
Can you do some educational b
Series videos on the b4512
I could eventually. It'd be a long one
I got a b4512 about 2 months ago and I love it
Hi
Account number 69-420 lol
Nice
Awesome Video!