Panasonic S1 Review: Nearly perfect

[@en.6565]

Such a stunning camera. Got my S1 body + free battery grip + free extra battery + 3 year extended warranty for $2500. A steal.

[@Princeton_James]

Great deal.

[@francescosani3952]

Where?😁

[@Brown-Bird]

@@francescosani3952 That was the basic, body-only deal when you pre-ordered. I got the same deal, but with the 24-105 lens also.

[@shapelessdreams]

i smell a fanboy

[@en.6565]

@@shapelessdreams Why not? We're now also getting the $199 VLOG 4K 10bit 4:2:2 update for free!

[@reviewthecheapest]

The video quality is amazing. The colors looks so accurate.

[@lamcao6638]

you can get that color with a go pro. Not so amazing

[@legendp2011]

+God Drink Visual.......anyone who knows how to colour grade can easily achieve those colours, also black-magic with it's raw will give more flexibility

[@legendp2011]

+God Drink Visuals........I'm not that impressed by the colours, honestly my sony a7sii gets similar results using the "eoshd pro color" profile. black-magic raw actually runs a lot smoother than the h264 and h265 videos on timeline playback, speeding up editing without the need for proxy files. with blackmagic raw you can use a lut on camera to emulate any other camera, and like I said I honestly don't think the colours here are any better than sony or nikon........certainly not on the same level as fuji or canon (and those are overhyped even as is). the j1 has great design and ergonomics. but the codec is worse than the gh5, lenses are overpriced and no ff 4k 60p (and with the a7siii on the horizon that may be a tough sell)

[@legendp2011]

+God Drink Visuals .......I had one person think I was shooting on an arri alexa when using my sony a7sii with a custom profile. customers rarely notice the difference between cameras, just whether a scene is well lit/exposed.....if it's working for you than great, it is a nice camera. It just isn't what i"m looking for

[@richardgibson360]

@@legendp2011 sony has the worse color science of all the big brands talk to any colorist and ask them which they would rather grade.

[@samthesmart1]

Thanks so much for your comments on autofocus! I'm excited that Panasonic has entered the full-frame mirrorless market, but the price point and paid upgrades make this a tough sell for me personally. Really appreciate the succinct, clear nature of your review.

[@IguanaFilmArts]

Bit strange conclusion when the S1 has dual I.S., better EVF, better handling, better low ISO(dxo results are scam), better colour science (perhaps subjective), better UI, better image quality (no banding, more dynamic range, natural pleasing colours) better weathersealing and overall better build. Thats a big list, z6 and S1 are different tools.

[@jeffreywrightphotography]

Add to your list, dual memory card slots, I.S. with every lens, more robust feature set with things like 6k and 4k video modes, higher flash sync speed, high res mode, illuminated buttons, higher shutter life, and more.

[@rendermanpro]

It delivers super crisp video in 4K, that is why I created my video in FHD....

[@purplefinchproductions2818]

Thank you! We're looking almost exclusively for video and breaking away from the traditional camcorder in an effort to be more artistic with our projects. We've used Panasonic camcorders in the past, but keeping an open mind in the mirrorless world.

[@JDC3166]

I was one of the first Australian consumers to test the S1R. I tested it twice: 5 April and last Monday night, 8 April 2019. I have expressed my concerns to Panasonic regarding the following areas: the price (AUD $7,000.00 for the S1R with 24-105mm lens: Panasonic stated to me the price is "value for money"); the inaccurate and inconsistent AF system; the size and weight of the camera; and a serious over-heating system I found on the two cameras I tested - heat dissipated through the bottom plate of the camera - that is yet to be properly explained by Panasonic.
Here's what Panasonic Australia said to me today, 10th April 2019: "In our view, we’ve created the first full frame mirrorless camera really targeted at the working professional photographer; the photographers still working with their DSLR, who haven’t switched to mirrorless because they haven’t been satisfied with the options available."
And this: "While we totally accept the size, weight, cost balance wasn’t to your liking, from many of the events we’ve held so far we’ve met photographers from across the spectrum who are happy with our direction. It is a personal decision however, and our strategy is really to let our G series line focus on being a lightweight take-anywhere travel system, where the S series is more targeting fields such as wedding/event photography, studio/commercial, landscape etc. In terms of price, we think both cameras offer value for money, as there isn’t another camera on the market that offer the feature set of our S series models."
If you believe this new FF camera system is your preferred "cup of tea", I would urge you to thoroughly and rigorously test the camera before you commit to it. FWIW: I will not, for the concerns I expressed above, be buying one.

[@amisgohome]

the bigger size is actually perfect I'm using an A7r3 that for me is too small but it's an amazing machine
I will test the S1R when I can and see by myself about the AF

[@DanielTobinAyaka]

I also tested it twice - digi camera warehouse in Chinatown and then at Teds in QVB (both Sydney). After careful consideration I bought one last Thursday and have been using it over the weekend. No heating issues, AF has been working fine, tried out all types of situations for both video and stills. Certainly the best camera I've used in the last 25 years either mirror or less. It might not be for everyone but having used Sony (both A and E), Canon and Minolta the S1 (for me) is the best I've had.

[@keithgoreham1463]

What's the temperature of the environment you're shooting in. I've noticed some warmth on the bottom-left of the camera while shooting in 70ºF weather. But I'd like to hear if you're in an extreme environment or not.

[@HuntaDaKilla]

Thanks for pointing out that the flippy screen is not needed on this camera. It is not for vlogging. People should opt for the Micro 4/3 options from Panasonic if that is what they want.

[@keithgoreham1463]

Yeah, way too expensive/heavy just to VLOG with.

[@kestertroy]

This reminds me of how Fujifilm stepped up by skipping the full frame, for medium format with their GFX 50S with totally new mount + lens series. Whereas now, we have the Panasonic S1 offering a weather-sealed body with new mount system & new lenses. The S1's physical design has a lot of similarities to the GFX 50S too, minus the in-body stabilization mechanism. FWIW, this is a great step up and only time will tell if the allegedly steep price is justified by market.

[@normankleinberg5525]

Not sure I understand: If the AF is the weak point of this camera (not saying it's the ONLY one, just seems to be the main one) then why prefer the Z6, of all cameras. That AF system is supposed to be its Achilles' heel.

[@johnbuscher]

I assume because of the cheaper body, free software updates and better (though not DSLR or Sony EyeAF levels) of AF performance. Plus, it's lighter, a bit smaller and has many video features that this has. I believe the Z6 kit with the 24-70 S F4 is about $700 cheaper (and includes an F mount adapter) compared to the S1 with the 24-105.

[@normankleinberg5525]

@@johnbuscher Your points are well-taken (whether I agree with the assessment of relative AF performance or not). My point was simply that the conclusions offered in the video seemed inconsistent with the points the presenter made. He basically says that, with the exception of not offering free upgrades and the subpar focusing system, the Lumix is nearly "perfect". So why go with the Z6? If he had said lower price, lighter and smaller, OK, but at best there's not much to choose in the AF department so the offer of free upgrades outweighs everything else? Look, you may prefer the Z6, that's fine, I'm just saying the video is a bit confusing, to me at least (granted, I AM getting on in years).

[@en.6565]

Norman Kleinberg
Well, Engadget still rates the Z6 higher in their tests. Got an 89 final score to the S1's 87. That's fine. I sold my Z6 to get the S1. Best decision I ever made. Night and day for me. No comparison. Z6, though well-built and sturdy, felt toy-like to me. The S1 feels like a pro body. Both cameras have a similarly-rated sensor, so can't go wrong with either one I guess. The S1's just better for me.

[@Featherlightstudio]

At last count, the S1 ( with its 24-105 f4 kit lens ) is 800.00 more than the Nikon Z6 ( with its 24-70 f4 kit tens ). This is a fairly substantial amount of difference for cameras built around many of the same photo / video features. I myself am trying to decide between these two capable cameras without any brand preference or prior investment and its a tough choice for sure. The Nikons rugged build and feature set along with the IBIS and 10bit output are very attractive features. The Panasonics longer reaching kit lens ( for someone starting out ) rugged build and feature set plus 4k60 are also very attractive. Since I will be shooting mostly video with occasional photos, the choice seems and even closer match, especially if you plan to get an external recorder.
The Panasonic has 4k60 but costs you a sensor crop to use it.
The Nikon can shoot 10 bit with log but not internally ( soon to be raw but forces you to buy a monitor to use it )
The Panasonic can shoot high speed frame rates but forces you to conform them in camera and can only use auto exposure to do it.
The Nikon has IBIS but even with the electronic stabilization disabled, suffers from occasionaly severe warble.
The Panasonic can automatically recognize faces and even animals yet, still seems to struggle to achieve focus consistently.
The Nikon claims to achieve usable ISO in video up to 51,200 and higher yet, the S1 looks much cleaner at the same ISO settings on every video I've seen.
Both Panasonic S1 and Nikon Z6 claim to be video centric models yet, neither camera included waveforms in their feature set or electronic ND filters.
I am very impressed with what both these companies have achieved to date and the problem is....they're doesn't appear to be clear winner in either camp.....yet.

[@johnbuscher]

@@normankleinberg5525 I think their decision was meant to be taken as a relative to their Z6 review, kind of like a multipart series of a show. So in context of their reviews, they liked the Z6 better. But you're correct, taken as a stand alone review, it doesn't make sense for them to fawn over it and then find one or two things wrong and just chuck it in favor of a different camera.
Personally, I do like the styling of the S1/S1R better, and L-mount is interesting since Leica has some good lenses out already, Sigma is porting the more modern lenses to L-mount and Panasonic's lenses aren't anything to sneeze at either. My one gripe about the mount is that it's a longer flange distance than E or Z, meaning there's no chance of being able to adapt, say, the upcoming Noct 0.95 Z, or the Ibelux 40mm 0.85 from E or X mount. Does that really matter? No, there's going to be plenty of good lenses coming. But it is still a bummer.

[@LE8271]

Contrast detect AF in 2019? They never learn

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

I often use this camera in shops, it has 1 huge objective problem: CDAF, and then 3 subjective problems: too expensive, too big and too heavy, so I'm not interested to buy it, but it's quite fun to operate, and I'm of course impressed with some of its features, like the EVF, the number of controls.

[@walrusgumboot]

youuuuuuuuuuutube CDAF is not an objective problem. I personally prefer it as I’m mostly a stills shooter and don’t want to deal with banding issues of the on sensor PDAF mirrorless cameras.
Yes it’s not suitable for some people’s needs, totally agree, but it’s not an objective issue.

[@LE8271]

@@walrusgumboot it is an objective problem. PDAF can still be used as CDAF.

[@walrusgumboot]

LEndy on sensor PDAF cameras have a side effect in some situations that I don’t want... banding.
For people who want the best uncompromised image quality only the L mount satisfies.
I’m not saying CDAF only isn’t a problem for some people, it clearly is. Just that not everyone wants a camera with on sensor PDAF.
So it isn’t objectively better as there are some photography styles that suit one technology over the other.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

​@@walrusgumboot The PDAF banding will only happen under extreme conditions, basically only if you really want to prove that it exists. You need a combination of a high DR image + lift the shadows to the maximum + shoot at very low ISO + find shadow areas where there are no textures + ... if you can't combine those criteria, then you won't see it. It might affect 0.001% of the photos. However not having good AF is going to affect over 50% of the photos people are taking, that's why I consider it an "objective problem", but I guess you're right and maybe it's better to call it a "frequent problem", one that will affect a great number of users.

[@proteus1]

I want a camera that shoots 4k 60fps with no cropping. Nikon doesn't do 4k 60 fps only 30. I've been shooting 1080p for years with Panasonic video camera, and don't want to shoot 1080 any longer, time we had 60fps at full frame no cropping.

[@walrusgumboot]

To be fair, the paid upgrades offer something none of the other models can do (including the Z6 free update), 10bit 422 recording internally.
I also think it should be free, but it’s not like another camera in its class is doing it for free, they’re not. So hard at this point to say Panasonic is unjustified in doing so.

[@walrusgumboot]

God Drink Visuals yes good point. It’s a different class of log profile to that offered by others too.

[@walrusgumboot]

God Drink Visuals I think it’s a good bet. It’ll be more video focused and have all the bells and whistles included.
S1 and S1R are both very stills focused.

[@kestertroy]

AGREE. It's kinda like paying Tesla for a speed unlock/upgrade, and expecting the same feature to be offered by BMW.

[@sahilubeja14]

Which should I choose for film making and video making. Please suggest, my budget is 3000 $. I was waiting for S1 but the autofocus issue is making me think. Do suggest which camera should I go for?

[@patricknejad6779]

He says he recommends S1 if you are doing video at 6:09

[@thedanitone]

If you can, rent it before you buy.

[@sahilubeja14]

@@thedanitone It would take long time to come in rent here in india. Just worried about the autofocus shit. or I'll buy it tomorrow itself

[@Englndsocr]

Definitely Panasonic. It's a true professional tool and once 10-bit V-Log comes to the camera, it will be far and away the best full-frame mirrorless. Second place is the GH5, third place is GH5s. Panasonic knows how to make mirrorless cameras, that's for sure.

[@sahilubeja14]

@@Englndsocr Have you used S1?

[@acenapbuild8282]

Hi, may I ask if this is good for photography than or like Sony a73? 🙂

[@kierenkd]

For that amount of cash, I'd want something that can focus moving subjects better than my 2011, mid range Nikon D7000

[@AlbertLara]

The autofocus hunting for video + the price is exactly why I would stay away from this camera. Maybe I should improve my manual focus skills but yet other mirrorless cameras at lower prices offer better autofocus.
The price of the S1 with their higher priced lenses are approaching the cost level of semi-professional camcorders that offer 4k60p, HDR, autofocus, and better battery life.

[@AmaxterPlays]

Albert L none of those camcorders will be full frame at that price though

[@AlbertLara]

Max Patten
Edit: you are correct. I forgot the sensor size for the $2k to $5k camcorders are 1 inch and sometimes smaller.
Valid point. Not sure the size for the camcorders but S1 has a 1.5 crop for 4k60p.

[@mcmaximax]

Please provide the metadata when showing the photo/video samples, as just the sample itself would give zero context :\

[@w.w.7148]

4K Camera reviews in 1080p suck.

[@angelisone]

This is what many beginners and amateurs like to have.
But two lenses are very slow & prices are way too high for beginners.
While lazy shooters want Phase AF, which this can not do.

[@keithgoreham1463]

Panasonic always said that this camera was designed for professionals. Not beginners.

[@angelisone]

@@keithgoreham1463 @Keith Goreham beginners up to professionals need Phase AF not outdated contrast AF.
-Noticed which many failed to say that ATG mentioned that PC Sync is way outdated and doesn't have ATG's 3.5mm or 2.5mm Sync.

Ever loose that PC Sync cap or find is missing from used cameras?
-Panasonic pro flash that doesn't overheat nor shutdown? None.
- 24-105 with beginner slow F4.0 stop
-70-200 another beginner slow F4.0
- 50 is heavy & same sized at the 24-105/1.4
- 50mm is very common, useless for indoor & too short for portraits.
Now, many amateur cameras are going over $1,200.00
And lenses are boasting that lousy depth-of-field looks with tag $1K+

[@keithgoreham1463]

@@angelisone Beginners up to professionals need reliable, capable autofocus. Panasonic's system has both important advantages (including ones exclusive to this camera) and some disadvantages, based on which autofocus mode you choose, and whether you're shooting stills or video. Determining which mode to use in a given situation is part of learning to use the camera, and I'm loving the results so far.
I bought both the 50mm F/1.4, which is fantastic, and the 70-200mm F/4, which I will probably return. My Nikon glass can be mounted using a dumb adapter with manual focus and IBIS stabilization. But honestly, once the 24-70mm F/2.8 comes out later this year, my immediate video/street needs will be met.
As for price, do you actually own the Nikon F-Mount 70-200mm F/2.8? Or the new 24-70mm F/2.8 S-Lens? Because neither of those lenses are any cheaper than what Panasonic and Sigma will be offering on the S1/S1R. So I'm not sure what you're on about.

[@FunkfeuerProduction]

angelisone if you use af as a Professional Shooter you Should rethink your career Choice.
The s1‘s obvious focus is for cinematic work. Sigma and Panasonic will release very fast Prime lenses at affirdable prices. To get the same quality with cinema cameras you have To spend at lest 20-30k

[@arifkizilay]

Is that camera not good for photography? My other question is about lenses. I am more for small size lenses. thank you.

[@alexandrecabanne8201]

Thanks for your video! do you know if it's possible to charge the battery with the SS USBC plug while shooting video?

[@madhu78296]

I want to change iso shutter speed apature in hi speed video mode is possible

[@JStieloSoloPhysique1987]

I want this so bad

[@frankfeng2701]

A7SIII will come out with an 8K sensor.

[@keithgoreham1463]

Will it come with a free fire extinguisher? Supposedly all of the current Sony sensors in current cameras (including Nikon's) are 8K capable. What's holding them all back is processing and heat dissipation. Sony will only get there if they build a larger body for it.

[@keithgoreham1463]

@God Drink Visuals Just think! Sony has an opportunity to release the world's first water-cooled mirrorless camera!

[@peregrineslim4446]

The top LCD screen looks a little behind Nikon and Canon.

[@keithgoreham1463]

So you don't care about the very high-resolution 120hz EVF that feels just like a DSLR's OVF, but with mirrorless functionality? Seriously, I have an S1, and the top LCD shows all of the information that it needs to.

[@floatingrabbit3556]

I don't mean to sound like a fanboy (which i will sound like because someone in the comments will point it out anyway's), never use the term "fast auto-focus" with a consumer camera that isn't currently at Sony's level. Even Nikon and Canon can't seem to beat that so you need to take a few seats before you say the auto-focus on this camera is fast, which honestly it isn't.

[@keithgoreham1463]

In single (not continuous) AF mode it is very fast. Significantly more so than my D850. The problems, such as they are, are all with continuous AF in stills mode.

[@AmaanKhan-ts4yy]

3:35 nice chickens...

[@nikhileshacharya3174]

Want to buy this camera but the auto focus is where I have to think twice...

[@keithgoreham1463]

The problems with the autofocus are over-stated, and ignore some real strengths. Yes, it can (not all the time) flutter in low-light. But this only happens in continuous focus mode, and is much more pronounced in the subject-tracking mode than in the single-point autofocus mode. I've also yet to see the focus flutter at all in video-mode, using single point focus, even during a very dark 18th century mansion tour. I was in a room of 30 adults and kids, and as I panned around the room, the focus transitioned VERY smoothly from one face to another as I put the focus-point on them. It was so smooth that I had to do double-takes to make sure that yes, that previous face I targeted is now actually out-of-focus. That's a feat that only Canon has been capable of up until now.

[@DanielTobinAyaka]

@@keithgoreham1463 Agree, most people have not picked one up or even customised the settings. It's a great camera, beautiful colours too.

[@nightstringers]

I'm a low light shooter this won't work for me

[@artiombeknazaryan7542]

Not impressed kinda. I guess BMPCC4K is the best solution for a videographer at a price of 1300$. Fuck FF... i just cant see the benefits with the bigger sensors. These days small sensor tech is so advanced combined with computational photography . Was impressed how Huawei P30 Pro dealt with low light with its microscopic sensor.

[@Durio_zibethinus]

Panasonic, please, your DFD 😥
*Nice review btw 👍

[@RedEyeJedigaming]

Yup, Lots of dials and buttons.

[@keithgoreham1463]

Professional tools often have those. My D850's have just as many.

[@dejffjed]

1) You NEVER use autofocus on video 2) You NEVER autofocus on video) 3) 2). My gooood, who AF when shooting a video...? Some amateurs who shoot family celebrations probably....

[@vicious12394]

If im using a gimbal i would usually use autofocus which is a really important feature to have

[@dejffjed]

@@vicious12394 On gimbal you either set the aperture to 7-10 (on FF) or keep the distance from your object. And that's it. Gimbals are not suited for movie like shooting where you need to pull focus anyway... If so, there is remote follow focus for the majority of the newest gimbals... The rule no.1 in (professional) video is and will always be: NEVER autofocus.

[@derryk1]

Sometimes on very rare occasions I use auto focus on my Panasonic AG UX180 cameras. In a fast action run and gun scenario it comes in hand and if the auto focus goes astray then I refocus by hand quickly and it stays put, because it is duel focus auto and manual. However it depends on what I am shooting manual focus is the way to go for staged planned scenes. Chasing ambulances for the 6 o'clock news well.... what ever it takes to get the shot.

[@dejffjed]

@@derryk1 I understand you. However even in such situation I would not use AF. :-)

[@tonycapil1022]

I don't auto focus much myself on an Arri system. Can you teach me how to be a real pro? please?

[@boarini2003]

"Lots of dials and buttons!" I'd prefer fewer, thank you. Maybe take a page from the Leica SL in that regard.

[@piotrszczepaniak1204]

If you prefer less - then use some entry-level camera with everything in menu. General when you are in control over you photography/filming - more buttons/dials is always better, especially if you can program them. And with Panasonic - you can.

[@uncoy]

The Panasonic dials and buttons are actually okay - they are dedicated buttons for what every stills and video photographer need. Much easier than hunting in menus. The Leica is a stills only camera. Moreover these buttons are well placed with decent separation so there's no reason to be pushing the wrong button (as happens on the A7 III sometimes).

[@dtbsz]

mr shaky hands

[@DonTheDino]

The lenses are way overpriced but I guess compare to the other Leica L mount lenses they’re cheap lol

[@saiiiiiii1]

Panasonic just doesn't seem to learn. Sure it's hard to develop a good phase detect AF system, but at some point you've got to start. The Panasonics are a joy to use, but the AF-C is just terrible compared to other rivals.

[@keithgoreham1463]

Go try an S1. The autofocus issues are overblown. I've seen some occasional hunting when shooting stills on mine that didn't actually affect the final pictures. But the video autofocus is silky-smooth when moving from one subject to another. Comparing the S1 to my D850 is a no-brainer. It beats the D850 for focusing on both stills and video. The latter wasn't hard, but the former was surprising.

[@TheFaustianMan]

This guy has no idea what he is talking about. First Nikkon only started offering the adapter recently, it was a few hundred before as a big FU to the early adapters. Second Nikkon is having a plague of returns because of the focus failure rate. Phase detection is going to give you banding. The s1 is a better camera period. Firmware is free to upgrade and will give you more features like the new CFexpress card. The paid upgrad is only if you want vlog and somekind of internal thingy, which is not necessary. Just like how we all got Cine4k all-i for the GH5 for free, despite not having paid for V-LOG.

[@keithgoreham1463]

What's your source on the Nikon Z returns rate?

[@Garrythegoat1]

I'll stick to my sony a9

[@jamestaylor954]

Callum Butler and I will stick with my Sony A7lll

[@RaymondLo84]

chicken detection?

[@carltercak4742]

It hunts for the nearest KFC

[@AlexanderBukh]

Looking at you, Marty McFly

[@olivierfichantfilms8614]

The footages are ridiculous.

[@luxuryviplifestyle9494]

Bad, it must be 100 megapixels and 8K

[@keithgoreham1463]

8K? Sure. 100 megapixels? Why? More data, more micro-blurring... It would destroy all of the advantages of the IBIS system with the higher required shutter speeds. I have two D850's, and the micro-blurring is a hugely annoying issue.

[@FellipeRodrigues89]

Nobody needs that many pixels. Good luck with storage

[@VadimOm]

no pdaf in 2500 usd camera in 2019? LOLWAT? this is hilarious

[@VadimOm]

@God Drink Visuals it's hilarious that you compare a pro video cameras to a mirrorless all in 1 package
next time try to bring up a dishwasher, gonna make you look even more pathetic
cheers mate 😂🤙

[@VadimOm]

​@God Drink Visuals nope, i am a nikon photo sports shooter.
Pros dont need af in pro video cameras, because pros use "the guy that pulls focus" instead of af that can miss under certain conditions, and cant be controlled all the time. Phase detection af for photography is a necessity, and dont judje this s1 joke by the standarts of a pro grade video equpment, its not a fair comparison, but if well look in sony. that you mentioned.. sony still wins.

[@VadimOm]

@God Drink Visuals dude, contrast focus might be more precise, but not faster in any way than pdaf
gh5 is great video toll, no one argues. s1 might be as well, but you can't photograph dynamic scenes without pdaf, nature of contrast detect af is that it needs to hunt to define the sharpest state, when pdaf knows ahead what is going be in focus and what not, but not of this matters in professional video work.
this camera is the same tier beta junk as Nikon's z series or cannons r turd muffin. personally i shoot Nikon, but Sony is King at consumer level cameras, despite all their shortcomings.
only my opinion, nothing more

[@muhh5]

Sony is so far ahead of everyone else in full frame mirrorless, it's not even funny anymore.

[@SolomFoz]

You can buy three pixel 3 phones for that price and shoot way more better photos and videos with them!

[@en.6565]

I. Fawzy Troll on!

[@FellipeRodrigues89]

You made me laugh

[@liyuanxing830]

It is a very unprofessional review.

[@Richard-rj8jo]

Panasonic S1 is OK, but no adequate lenses and this review.......... catastrophe

[@MadEnglishTV]

I believe this system will be dead by 2021 because the camera and lenses are so expensive.

[@grantcary]

Mad English TV Sigma canon EF adapter. Full functionality.

[@keithgoreham1463]

Funny how Apple sells really expensive computers and has 90%+ of the profits (not sales... profits) in the laptop industry. In case you haven't noticed, the future is either very cheap and crappy, or very expensive and high quality. There's no money in what used to be the mid-range.

[@MadEnglishTV]

@@keithgoreham1463 Nobody was asking for this camera. Everyone was asking for a full-frame GH5. People ask for Apple products and expensive cars.

[@luisneumannp2748]

@@MadEnglishTV Spoke to a camera salesman today. He told me they're selling quite welll. They only had one S1 body because the rest (including S1r) are all sold out and preordered. It was a suprise to hear that. But I guess there's still a difference between UA-cam comments and the real world

[@keithgoreham1463]

@@MadEnglishTV First, this IS a full-frame GH5. Second, people only ever ask for what they already know. Successful innovators give them what they never realized they had to have.

[@khydrox3498]

First

[@EgdeFilms]

Just do not understand why people like this camera.

[@EgdeFilms]

@God Drink Visuals I just do not understand it.