@number7red619 T-80BVM is much better in terms of acceleration, top speed and loading speed. In terms of armor, BVM's armor is still very good. Same hull armor , Turret armor T90M is lil bit better but doenst change anything that much. And even if the 90M has a spall liner, it usually doesn't change much because T80, 90,72s don't eat spall anyway .If you're going to die, you die the same way, either the bottom plate, the driver optics, or the side. Now you stay real.
@@schizophrennicautist3858 In terms of armor, BVM's armor is still very good. Same hull armor , Turret armor T90M is lil bit better but doenst change anything that much. And even if the 90M has a spall liner, it usually doesn't change much because T80, 90,72s don't eat spall anyway .If you're going to die, you die the same way, either the bottom plate, the driver optics, or the side.
Bvm is better because Russian bias already eats the spall in the t80 series and the reload is better, the armour is also basically the same while the t80 has better mobility
@@progoku196 They both 3rd gen thermals as i saw no difference. Also they play differently requiring 2 different play-styles. For me performance whise are equal and i dont see performing with either worse or better.
@@PopThunder dude, I’m just being bitter trying to grind some of my abrams with nothing but HEATSFS until the last row of mods with unmaxed crews. I know it gets better, it’s just annoying
@LordDigz12 I agree with you stock grind is always pain, but top tier Abrams start with M829 witch are better than the Russin ones. So I would say that for top tier it's almost same for every other country
ussr is just pain lack of mobility killing you reverse -11 its so bad (im a ussr main) and i see leos and other nations main battle tanks they are going reverse -40km damn its really big difference ussr needs mobility im just sayin
Acting like you don't have this bullshit ERA that somehow desintegrate shells half the time and a 125mm that spalls a lot more than NATO 120mm with gen 3 thermals.
@@ChaosUnleashed265 the T14 is in a strange place, its somewhere between a protype and serial production variant, like the vehicles under sovjet "xx object" designation. The more i read about it, the more sources indicate that its more of a testbed and even though they initially wanted it to be a family of vehicles including IFVs, they walked back on it because refining the design & fixing all the bugs would result in something new anyways, plus there is the issue with the gun with russia wanting to go 152mm so i guess they will skip the T14 and make a heavily modiefied sucessor after all the data from the conflict flows into the new design, but who knows how long that will be, the 3BM60 & 3BM49 DU rounds are still potent rounds against everything produced by potential opposition right now so i dont think they are in a hurry.
T-80BVM is way better than T-90M
@number7red619 T-80BVM is much better in terms of acceleration, top speed and loading speed. In terms of armor, BVM's armor is still very good. Same hull armor , Turret armor T90M is lil bit better but doenst change anything that much. And even if the 90M has a spall liner, it usually doesn't change much because T80, 90,72s don't eat spall anyway .If you're going to die, you die the same way, either the bottom plate, the driver optics, or the side. Now you stay real.
@@toothlessDJErcikt90m is way better in survivability armor and fcs
@@schizophrennicautist3858 In terms of armor, BVM's armor is still very good. Same hull armor , Turret armor T90M is lil bit better but doenst change anything that much. And even if the 90M has a spall liner, it usually doesn't change much because T80, 90,72s don't eat spall anyway .If you're going to die, you die the same way, either the bottom plate, the driver optics, or the side.
@number7red619 Both have almost the same protection against everything. The T-90M only has slightly more ERA in the upper parts of its turret.
Bvm is better because Russian bias already eats the spall in the t80 series and the reload is better, the armour is also basically the same while the t80 has better mobility
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I love the addition of classical music in these videos!
T90M and T80BVM to me are the same in terms of performance. Just preference, do u prefer slightly better mobility or do u prefer better armour.
@@progoku196 They both 3rd gen thermals as i saw no difference. Also they play differently requiring 2 different play-styles. For me performance whise are equal and i dont see performing with either worse or better.
I use the T-90M to snipe because its long reload and the BVM to rush B because its mobility
BVM is better and more versatile
Pretty nice to start with a dart. Plus auto loader so you have max reload even if you haven’t maxed crew skills.
It's nice, but still kinda sad when you met Japanese top tier with 3sec autoloaders 😅😅
@@PopThunder dude, I’m just being bitter trying to grind some of my abrams with nothing but HEATSFS until the last row of mods with unmaxed crews. I know it gets better, it’s just annoying
@LordDigz12 I agree with you stock grind is always pain, but top tier Abrams start with M829 witch are better than the Russin ones. So I would say that for top tier it's almost same for every other country
I'm almost there, just got the T80 U. It takes too much time without premium 😭
Damn, I respect u sir😯 Grinding without premium is pain
I respect the grind
yep me too mate
I know how it feels bro, I’m in t-72 without premium… it has been a lovely journey :)
I get t90m with no premium
"Oh kurwa raketa" just crack me :D
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my right ear loved this video
i really want to get the t-80bvm, im on 6.3 rn
i also want to get t-90m, but imo t-80 is better
Hope you will get it soon
@@PopThunder ty bro❤️
@@sifty7325how far are you mate
ussr is just pain lack of mobility killing you reverse -11 its so bad (im a ussr main) and i see leos and other nations main battle tanks they are going reverse -40km damn its really big difference ussr needs mobility im just sayin
Acting like you don't have this bullshit ERA that somehow desintegrate shells half the time and a 125mm that spalls a lot more than NATO 120mm with gen 3 thermals.
Youre not a good nor experienced player i can take from that comment
@@Stridsvagn-ph7sf alright ur the best
@@tarktekkanat1968 hell nah, you just dont know what you're talking about
t80bvm and t90m stock grind is the WOOOOOOOOORST cuz ur literally playing a br 10 tank in toptier with 0 armour til u spade them
So youre saying the BVM should be 10.0? May i ask what you smoked? Also, stock grind is horrible even tho u get mango to grind with?
You need ka 52 now 😂
Maybe after T90😅
Still one off the best tank in war thunder
Yep, it is
we need a new ussr top tier mbt maybe the last bvm with the new reverse gear
The t14?
Bvm obr 2023
@@ChaosUnleashed265 believe me object 640 gonna be enough
@@ChaosUnleashed265 believe me object 640 gonna be enough
@@ChaosUnleashed265 the T14 is in a strange place, its somewhere between a protype and serial production variant, like the vehicles under sovjet "xx object" designation. The more i read about it, the more sources indicate that its more of a testbed and even though they initially wanted it to be a family of vehicles including IFVs, they walked back on it because refining the design & fixing all the bugs would result in something new anyways, plus there is the issue with the gun with russia wanting to go 152mm so i guess they will skip the T14 and make a heavily modiefied sucessor after all the data from the conflict flows into the new design, but who knows how long that will be, the 3BM60 & 3BM49 DU rounds are still potent rounds against everything produced by potential opposition right now so i dont think they are in a hurry.
Just got this recently now time for the t90m
Same here😁
why dont you have the T90M?
BVM is way better than T90M btw.
@@toothlessDJErcik i know , but still you need more STALINIUM
@@MatejDimitrijeski nah BVM's stalinum is enough op.
@@toothlessDJErcik I SAID HE NEEDS MORE STALINIUM AND BIAS
Am in love with the T80BVM so i wanted it first now is time to grind T90M😁
Got 2 nukes on it yesterday, amazing
Good job
¿Por qué no? Los rusos usan hasta T55s en pleno 2024 🤗
ur enemy is so bad )))
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Jesus your tech tree looks horrible