I can't see how you want to add protection for children under 16 without being forced to use ID verification. I really don't want to give my ID to a random gacha company. Parents should be held responsible for what their kids do online
Maybe countries could add a system so that you have a number linked to your ID (a number that isnt public ofc), so instead of sending your ID informations you could send the number and firstname, that way they'll just have to check if it has the same number and correct firstname (so you cant just randomly take any number and use it)
Tbh I'm okay tho. I think hoyo is trustworthy enough and not such a shady company. In my country, looking for a job, registering for medical attention, etc require an id so I'm kinda used to it. It's not like hoyo will post my id on the internet for everyone to see. Besides, I'm nobody
@@ordinarycat9978 Why do you think hoyo is not a shady company? They have in genshin they have predatory gacha thats the reason government even said anything and literally no passion by the devs, the recent natlan if you dint have this meta exploration character you will not have fun so stupid, and story is so cringe. in honkai star rail literally powercreep every patch this is literally free money glitch and they have whole 10hr of story you will rather watch whole lord of the rings and still have like 1-2hr of story, Literally every game made by them has no passion and people are still not broken from the brainwash of hoyo since pandemic, Genshin story has so many plot holes its crazy
Hearing about kids having to get permission from parents to wish and top-up actually reminds me of the story about how a boy stole his parents' money to top-up his account where that money was supposed to be payment toward his sister's medical bill since she had some crazy illness.
I remember this. I was like bro! This is why I say parents need to lock away their cards and money in a place no kid can get into. If my daughter asks me for a top up, imma have her explain to me why she needs it. Get her to think first if she really needs it or not. But she’s 3 so I have around 13 or less years until that happens. Assuming she ends up playing games lol
@@NihilityEditz And that's to me is a problem. Parents won't know what Gacha is to begin with because they're not online as you are, just thinking it's a basic free game for kids to play. Gacha is just soft core gambling. Yes you get free pulls if you plan enough but do you think kids can think that far ahead. Plus gacha has something more powerful than cash, connection with a character. You may love a character's story because it pulled your heart strings. It may not affect you personally but there are kids who can be influenced by gacha very easily. Should the parents do a better job? Yes but companies are exploiting this and the goverment is patching things up.
@@Patpig10and that's why the app is rated 12+, most responsible parents would actually check if the game is suitable for their kids first before allowing then to download it. but unless they actually trust their child or they're just really irresponsible they'll just let them do what they want, if the child develops gambling addiction because of the game yet the parents didn't check what the game is about, then their fault, if they did check but still allowed it and the kid got gambling addiction then that's their fault too, if they know something might be an bad thing in the game, why let them play?
Whether its easy or not, it is obviously made to being hard to count. I dont find it hard to count but the latency is definitely done purposely. You wont get the latency in wuwa and its much better.
When they can have counter on top that manages the count like on zzz why will I manually go and do it, plus why can't they make the counter to 10 pulls per page or 6 like before!?
@soup2504 Yeah, a company that gives you a chance to grind things yourself and give you actually good games is as terrible as the company that not only force you to pay for every move, but their games perform really terribly. Seriously? Mihoyo as bad as EA?
most painful thing to watch was that background clip poor arlecchino tryint to take down robot chicken without bow character xD Edit:- i was not expecting this many likes thanks
Gacha had existed before Genshin. Also, it just affects the US. It will probably had no effect outside the US, as it probably adhered already to Chinese or the Singaporean laws (since the global version was based on Singapore).
Well, you can add a pity counter, but it would be pretty useless. Is it so hard to just multiply the number of pages in history till your last 5* by five? Did we learn nothing in school?
well I have friends who are over 13 yet struggle with that, some people can have a disorder preventing them from learning it as well, but I'd say at least adding a pity inside the "history" menu would be good, like putting it above the list of your past pulls, then people can still have the excitement if they don't check the page
@@femto4848 well it isnt that hard but it is confusing me why yall dont just multiply the pages by 5 yes i know there is people with learning disorders that dont let them do that but it would still be a little useless
@ might be "useless" to most players but even then, it wouldn't be harmful, it's just a few extra numbers that wouldn't be that hard to even code in the pull screen or even in the "history" screen
70 million is sadly just a drop in the ocean that is hoyoverse. the new regulations however are going to take away major tactics that allow gamling to function
It's just because they're a big chinese company. There are american companies that apply methods way more predatory. In a lot of games, the existence of pity doesn't even exist.
I play zzz and there's a pity counter, like "7 more wishes for a 4*" Or smth like that. I'll admit, there's a certain spark missing, but it's also pretty nice to know "ooohh here comes [character]!!"
Honkai Impact 3rd has also had a pity counter forever, which makes it weird why Genshin doesn't have it, because as far as I know it's hoyoverses only gacha game without a live pity counter.
1:20 bro if you suck at doing basic calculations and you're over 11 you're cooked. Calculating the exchange rate isn't some engineer type of stuff, if you can do first grade (i think that what it's called in English?) equations then you can calculate exchange rates. I agree with the rest but I can't with the exchange rates being "confusing".
“Bro” you’re stupid if you don’t realize the multi currency system in gacha games was specifically designed to obfuscate the actual amount of money you’re using. That’s why they have 2 levels of detachment. You trade cash for one currency, then that currency for another currency. Then you have a long description of drop rates and tedious ways to track how far you’ve come towards pity. These are all put in place to detach you from the money you’re actually using for each pull and make it as confusing as possible without being overtly illegal.
@Millicente genesis crystals convert to Primos in a 1:1 ratio, dont they? Probably one of the least mathematicaly confusing extra currencies around...
Better yet, can’t calculate exchange rates? Search on the phone??? On the computer??? We can search for shit now Also what is so confusing about 160 primo = 1 pull???? 10 pulls = 1600 primos 20 pulls = 3200 primos . . . 90/ 180 pulls = (punch the calculator on your phone) 14,400 primos/ 28,800 primos We have calculators for this reason.
@@camil3545 Yes but primos translate 160 to 1 pull, which is intentionally confusing. And you cant see your current pity as the history takes a bit to update
Before it was 6 table now it's 5 but it's still too hard for us so pity counter would save our 5sec which will be useful when we will be doing some quest tapping to skip dialogue 🎉
@@eva1742 if you just multiply it by 5 it will round off the pity, People like me who sometimes pull 1 by 1 and not 10 times at once need to count it 1 by 1 to see if we're at sofy pity
Lots of other gacha games plainly show the pity counter too. Love and Deepspace and Twisted Wonderland come to mind. Genshin implementing a pity counter would not be "setting a precedent for the industry" lol. People who only play Genshin don't realize how behind the times it really is.
Lets be honest: they do this only because it is a Chinese game. Fcnkg Fifa with their lootboxes is PEGI-3, Diablo Immortal has a much worse gacha system than Genshin.
I agree there is games that has lines for a increase chance with no indicator for what it is. Or were you buy a premium item with your premium currency for a activity were there isnt even a 100% chance you get what you spent money on with no pity.
Diablo Immortal isnt a gacha though. A gacha is a game with a lootbox/casino like main feature. Diablo Immortal does not have gacha. Its also because Genshin is probably one of the biggest mobile games of all time, nothing to do with the fact that its chinese lmao. You are just stupid.
I can tell you right now my little nephew told me where I see my history in this game and when I showed him he told me that I was playing this game for 3 months and now he figured it out
4:59 gambling is always gonna feel like gambling. Winning the 50/50 is still gonna feel great, seeing numbers that keep track of when we will get a 4 star or a 5 star wont ruin the rush of gambling cuz it doesnt mess with the odds. We just wont have to count anymore, and we could always get our rolls early
nope tbh when i see numbers my gambler side runs away. i love counting it myself while pulling or checking history. seeing numbers makes me feel annoyed it looks ugly. maybe thats because we didnt had a counter from the start but it would look so out of place
Overall, having an automatic counter like Honkai Impact 3rd (a Hoyoverse game that has came wayyy before Genshin, HSR, and ZZZ) has already existed. So I am not sure why Genshin hadn't placed that there.
yea but since this is focusing on children and young teens, many of them might not pay enough attention before spending, that's why they want it to be even more clear
@@BoothiIlthat's why Razor exists, to explain in Razor language: Max pity: 90 If not rate-up, guaranteed If rate up, 50/50 Capturing Radiance? Forget that Epitomized path = temporary guarantee Weapon pity: 70 Standard? Pull only when blue wishes Chronicle? Same pity, more chars + epitomized Noelle banner = not worth pulling a second time, 1 enough.
@@BoothiIl I am a minor too and if someone can't understand a basic gacha system then they're stupid, Anyone with an IQ of room temperature can understand unless they're little kids like 10 year old but if they're that young then just don't play the game cause they won't understand anything at all in the game anyways
@@BoothiIlokay but that's not the company's fault, why fine them? Genshin's system is one of the most straightforward out there, yet of course they will let EA thrive
Imagine the under sixteen one looking for their parents and telling to them "I need your consent to pull for this thicc waifu with the prismogems that I grinded by myself please" 💀
I don't think any sane person would say that to their parents.. Would just tell them "it's a cool character, I really like her. Can i get her please!!? I admire her alot!"
If they show the real odds, it might make people spend less money. Because let's face it, we all know how horrible those odds are, so they might also improve the odds to keep spending money appealing. Which would be great for all players.
@@mizuruinenereal most likely yes. Unless organization like U.N get involved. Most people outside USA most likely won't get the new system. Thought it's debate able. Because hoyoverse may switch the system entirely for all global players to avoid other countries security department to sue them.
@Shameek009MCNah, why will they lose their revenue worldwide just because of the US. Like the US isn't even the top spenders in gacha. They will just make a separate system for the US and let the money keep flowing from other countries.
Teen here. I think if there was a data breach in terms of the law it’s alright to take action on that. But parental permission on pulling as a whole? I have parental controls which mean I cannot spend real money in game without permission, but I am free to pull whoever I want with the tickets and jades I do have in the game because either that adds to my pity if i get no 5* or I get a 5*. That part is a little strange to me. EDIT: (first off yes i read all the replies, consider this as a sort of addon after seeing what ya’ll think) in fairness, yes, the probability statistics and all are a bit confusing and I see the concern as gacha games are essentially gambling. I just think that a lot of these problems don’t need to be solved by parental control from the get go. If it isn’t working out, fine, add the parental controls. imo there’s a lot of places we can start that may not require such a huge change.
I agree, while I no longer fall under the under 16 bracket, it feels weird that Hoyo is being fined for something that feels like is more under the parents control as opposed to being under Hoyo's control. Cause the children using real money would have had nothing to do with Hoyo, cause parents themselves should moniter that, not a big company and we all know that some children don't put in their actual age for a lot of online games like genshin...
Nah game like these do not belong to kids, these game are just gambling machine at the very core of profit. These games are the one that muddy the water in term on value of money, $100 seems a lot until you realize game like these paints you an inflated picture of the value that its worth, you end up paying more then it is actually worth. Kids may not have money and parents definitely monitor how there kid interact on the digital world however you cant blame a parent when you have a game that is really good at disguising itself from monetization, you end up having a younger adult having a perception of what these are worth and the risk they can get into financially. This is me yapping but you cannot assume everyone has a good judgement on perceiving value financially, and gacha games along with other heavy micro transaction game diminish the perception of money especially for the younger age. This is why you cant gamble in the casino as a kid in america and gacha game is no different
Its gambling in disguise. Back in the days these type of game are mostly in adult entertainment form where they cater to adult who can afford to buy a card to refill, now they’ve gradually going after the kids through parents credit card
It's gambling, which is highly addictive. These types of "gacha" systems shouldn't be introduced to kids/teens, even if they are not spending real money on them.
@_planetMagi The problem here is that the game has children as one of their main target demographics and heavily advertises to children, as well as using deceptive practices. On one hand a parent should monitor their children, on the other hand that doesn't excuse targeting children with what's effectively gambling. Especially when it's known how damaging it is especially at an early age. So yeah it makes perfect sense, if you want to make a gambling product without child protections then make a gambling product targeted at adults. Like by your logic we should allow children to drink alcohol and smoke because after all the parents should be monitoring what they are doing 24/7 so why should the government do anything about it.
so we just.. cant pull? i get not letting kids pay real money but can we just no pull anymore??? i think this is stupid. why is anyone upset? i thought it was pretty clear about how pulling worked :/
I think what that is the fact that you cant pull unless you ask ur parents if ur under 16,, which is still kinda stupid... Like i get under 10 or smt but 16? Teens arent idiots
@polarivyfairy exactly. I get under 13 maybe but damn. Just don't let them pay cash. What hard is in game currency's gonna do, you dont exactly HAVE to pay money
it was never confirmed what hyv was going to do about this fine so there isnt clear proof that that is the case. that was just a general rule stated by the government, hyv has the right to deal with that issue in any way they feel is fair to themselves and the players. so if anything we'll probably only see a change in pity rates, it would be way too difficult to have to age restrict the *main* point of the game. hyv would surely lose a good chunk of their profits if that was the case, at least from the US that is.
I'm actually glad they're doing this but at the same time, I'm hoping this doesn't just increase gacha game scrutiny on the whole, by a government that lately seems to be really interested in banning what we can and can't do on the internet (ex: TikTok).
Did you hear about SMS paying or prepaid card? or you can just ask any friend in school to buy it for him and he would give him cash. For parents it is imposible to stop kids. You would have to need to chain them in your cellar
I saw a story where a kid spent his parents savings to pull in genshin that was supposed to be for the kid's sister's surgery(I think).And I think the parents were asking for a refund but Idk what comes next.
the solution was pretty easy: refund all money and ban his account. why would someone want to have that scandal in cn for 3000$ when they get millions lmao
for real though, I don’t want to ask everytime I want to pull for someone. In fact, I don’t think my parents even understand what happens in the game anyway
@@oKenshinHimura From the video the law doesn't seem to care if it's the child's money or not. These 16 year-olds might be spending their own hard earned cash for all we know. 1:25 The legal issue was child privacy not taking child-money.
you all are idiots lol, if they will make it possible to buy a banner 5 star for pure $$$$, then do the math you be having to fork up $300 for a 5 star via shop, Since 180 pulls is your guaranteed pity for banner 5 star, So instead of playing lets say $100 if your lucky, You be coughing up 3 times that lol
@@josephlouisg.bondoc361274 below is just an early 75+ is soft pity and 90 is hard because that’s just how it is soft pity means when your chances slowly go up and up and hard pity just means when it’s guaranteed
as someone who is a (pretty much) day one genshin player (started at age 14) i definitely think the restrictions for younger kids are needed. i’ve now spent about 2k on the game over the 4 years i’ve played and most of that was because as a young kid i didn’t realize just how outlandish spending 50+ EVER BANNER was… now i barely spend anything and i’ve had to break my gambling addiction :/
Not all kids are like that most of them aren't even allowed to spend money so they do it without promission but that's only some kids most of them listen to there parents it's juist u who did it with some kids spend over 2k I never spended 2k in my life on a game max 200 till now counting all games I spended on so it's only u who spended 2k with some other kids idk. With their parents' promission or not u prob did it with promission (not trying to be mean if I sound like it and dont comment yeah it did sound mean cus it's annoying tbh )
@@xshino_ this was the biggest nothing burger I’ve ever read, I’ve retyped this comment like 5 times because the layour of yours was just, yk. If somebody was spending *2k* on a game w/o permission, don’t you think their parents would’ve seen the bank statement? plus ‘it’s just you’ is a factually incorrect statement here, have we not looked into the world of Minecraft ‘Keys”? Have we not looked into the world of CS:GO crates? This is a huge problem not only in genshin impact, but across ANY other game with the capacity for this type of trip. Child gambling is a very real, and veyr prevalent issue. Somebody comes forth with their experience on it and you _shut them down_ ? It’s clear you didn’t want to be rude, don’t worry about that feild of it, but the fact of you being condescending as still remains.
As a free to play kid I just think its sad for ME now, because my parents are strict with games and I don't spend but now I have to ask for permission? Im 15 turning 16 soon so sigh....
well I had mixed feeling about this , on the one hand I clearly favor the change to protect kids from impulsive pull and predatory mechanism , on the other hand , as an adult , am fully aware of the gacha and pity mechanics and need not the authority to made it a spell it all out affair , I can easily tally the pulls I've got and I can manage my purchasing , gacha game by its extension and mechanism , actually do games and benefit from the gacha CHANCE mechanism , its part of the fun , though I do understand not everyone had the self control nor the Mathematical skill to actually understand the mechanism Instead I think the FTA should takje a hard look at many of the loot box mechanism on the various non-gacha game , which I find even more predatory and even more confusing , but then those are usually from the western developers and FTA seems unwilling to challenge
It's hard to argue this point, since it seems Hoyo is being singled out despite certain Western developers having much more predatory lootbox mechanics. Hoyo probably settled because they realized getting a fair hearing in the United States would be all but impossible.
Relax. More gacha games are next in line. It just so happened that Hoyo started this trend and has earned the most. That is like you asking the US govt to slap a fine to Apple, Google, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. all at the same time. lol
For most outsiders, Genshin Impact is usually the first game that comes to mind when talking about the gacha genre. It's pretty much been the embodiment of the Gacha industry, and a LOT of aspects are borrowed from Genshin and used in other Gacha games (Wuwa and the upcoming Arknights game for example). The theory is most likely if they hit the "beacon" of the industry like that then it would encourage other games in the industry to follow suit.
@@Gurenn83 you're not making any sense / lol why do i need to relax / hoyo def did not start the gacha trend / why do you even want to fine those all at the same time what for and how is it even close to hoyo
@@CoreZeroPH Maybe if you use 1% of your brain before responding that would help? Hoyo out of all gacha games has been the top earning gacha company globally. Can you name a gacha game that beats Genshin at the #1 spot? I will wait.. Second, you took the analogy seriously. I was just using those tech companies as an example to help you understand why only Genshin is in the hot seat and not the other gacha games (as you pointed out). Makes sense now? But based on your last response, I do not expect you to understand everything I just said.
Bro I won't lie for a few years I've been saying I'm so not proud to be American like all these stupid rules about trying to restrict the internet like when will these old people learn no matter what you do kids can just lie like stop blaming the games AND BLAME THE PARENTS!
Fr, and the problem is overprotecting the kids and not let them do ANYTHING. They'll get bored and make up things to have fun as lying and doing things they shouldn't. Instead why don't parents try to teach them how to use money, how the world works and internet works instead? Teach them how to think and not just leave them clueless. Then they'll grow up, be 18 and not know anything about how the world works and make stupid decisions because no one thought them to think for themselves.
So real dude.. although I do understand that restricting minors would be good as addicted kids are a real issue as well but the question is how to do this without making others feeling left out bc of those measures making it more difficult to spend their own money if they wish to and the other thing to take account in..that in games purchases are like drugs , cigarettes or alcohol, it's not encouraged to minors (even forbidden) but it always have it's flaws no matter what you do
(American here) I started playing when I was about 15 or 16 I can’t remember when exactly but I’ve never had a single problem understanding the system implemented by Hoyoverse nor has it ever been *tedious* to me, I think the reason this happened is because of lying little kids and irresponsible parents and that one kid who spent his sisters medical treatment money on Genshin I think they should just ban the kid and refund the parents their money instead of changing parts of the system because this is ridiculous when a single incident affects more than tens of thousands of individuals and I’m not trying to be non empathetic but this is stupid
It’s been over 20 years. They’ll never learn. My mom literally played games and watched anime to decide if it was okay for us growing up. Like a response parent.
As a both a 16 year old and a European, so this doesn´t affect me in any way, I think it´s just absurd. This is a problem between the parents and the child, not the game. They should control their spending. Plus the pity system can be easily searched up and explained even in razor language, so I think it´s just a personal issue. But I have to agree on the data thing. Just a subjective opinion.
Hey so, does this not affect people out of USA and idk? Because as a 16yo I had a friend that is like younger than me by 1 year, and I don’t think she would be any happy to know she can’t pull anymore but we both Latinos so…
How can companies tell that the plays actually above the age of 16 with out invading private info? I mean you can’t just tell them to “ hey kid, show me your Id”.
If u lost those 50/50s in versions 5.0+ U will not only get a guaranteed pity but also the next 50/50 will alps be guaranteed making it 2 guaranteed(just saying if u dont know)
On one hand I like this, on the other I hate that it just shows that parents can't seem to raise a kid properly. These kids should have never had access to in game purchases in the first place, but Hoyo should also have had a more clear indicator of pity and actual prices for pulls. All these people suck
@@ste---ny4lh A geniuene question though.. have you ever played genshin? Their pity is clear as day and the prices for pull is as straight forward as it could be, sure there are conversion here and there.. but like.. do they not teach math at school? What are we spending 9+ year in school for? Cmon you have to be below 3rd grade (which btw genshin is rated for 10+) to actually be mislead in any way. Honestly imo it's more of a political move than anything. China and Usa has be infamous for their "rivalry" well whatever it is they dont like each other And it is oddly coincidental that out of hundreads of other similiar if not worse gacha/lootbox game, it has to SPECIFICLY be the one game made by a chineese company, ignoring the other 50 company not from china
Goverments anywhere always want a portion of corporation (especially foreign corpo) profits. If they dont get one, they'll always impose sanction as a threat. Honetly, common practice. They're gonna use every excuses available to do so.
Going by the phrasing... So kids won't even be able to pull for the characters even if there wasn't any purchased crystals? They would just be accumulating primogems they got from chests, achievements and events? Talk about losing out💀
So dumb....this game is for teens 12 or older (at least in the playstore) they arent helpless little children make the restrictions for people playing whos under that age
@@Itz_Rozyexactly why is it always 16 and under I think a 15 year old is smart enough like a 15 year old can go to jail but can’t spend their primogems?
@marshmelefunny because there's specific age ratings. PG-13, 16+, 18+, you get the gist essentially it's kinda supposed to outline puberty and maturity. around 13 most hit puberty (although I think kids are getting it earlier now) and around 16 puberty ends. so at that point they kinda go "okay they've grown up, but not enough to be an adult out in the world"
Help but what if the ppl under 16 are f2p and grind the pulls them self, does that mean they need their parents consent to pull even when they grinded it themself?😭
Lootbox/gacha restrictions to children is actually a good thing. And then theres the other half.. ..so how about the US educational system that specifically leaves out curriculum on statistical mathematics that would help people easily deduce the cost of pulls. Approximately $1.979 usd per pull. Not even slightly hard to figure out 🤷♂️. It's not a companies fault that we Americans are lacking proper educational materials. If the US Lotteries don't get hit with the same litigation.. racist fine.
1. Personally I have my own records on - Number of pulls till now from the start - Number of times won/Lost 50-50 Weapon Banners, Standard Banners. I can definitely say how many pulls I made for the past 3 years. Since it's a Gacha game, I came in prepared. 2. We can see every country is taking steps prevent youngsters mis-using internet (like ban of Social media under 16) as it is taking an huge evolution into AI. We will see lots of changes. Remember how Gacha system used to be before Hoyoverse. Ofcourse Since Genshin has a big story yet to complete, we will see a lot of changes in the future 2 - 3 years. I personally want Hoyo to survive, because I want to see the complete storyline of Genshin. 3. WHY ARE YOU USING XANGLING's BURST WHILE THAT DRAKE IS FLYING !!!!
Simple solution. If you’re so young that you don’t have self control you shouldn’t be playing, it’s the parents fault for not checking the game. If you are old enough and confused, just watch a video or take 5 minutes in the internet to understand?
Didn't Hoyo already put this system into hi3? Saying '100 pulls till S-rank' or '90 pulls till S rank' why didn't they add this to other games? Hi3 was even released before, and the system doesn't make it not fun, simply easier to know when you will get a chara.
Honkai Impact 3rd already has a tracker that tells you how many pulls you need to get a 5*..it isn’t that hard to implement it into genshin as well but they obviously didn’t wanna do it (especially because history doesn’t immediately update while you are pulling so unless you count the pulls u can only guess how many u did)
the amount of excitement we get from pulling in the banner vs the whole time lost grinding every map before banner ends and getting a qiqi then proceeding to use card. it is a clear difference. and im happy for this change. although i lost so few times on pulling banners but lost in my favs like alhaitham, navia, mavuika
It's not that hard tbh. What's the point in being excited when you finally get what you want when everything is just there in front of you. It's also not that hard to count how much pity you are in because it's just multiplied by 5. Simple math.
@@ZolDubs ahh, then for genshin you just need to access the wish history and then manually count your wishes. That system is already in place since day 1.
what is funny is hoyo already has a pity counter/wish counter built into the banner UI in hi3rd which came way before than GI. it's clearly in hoyo's interest to confuse people.
@@PC-mw7ko counting ain't the issue here. it's just funny to me that 2 hoyo games have a wish counter and other 2 don't. same company but using 2 different business models.
The crystal to primogem ratio is 1:1. I was shocked when I first knew of it. What is the point of conversion ? Thus I have decided to be a F2P from day 1 of playing and still am after playing for 4 years. I only pull when I have around 160 pulls to guarantee, so no gambling involved.
yea, and I'd say having a guarantee system is more fair to prevent gambling addiction than having just a chance with no guarantee you'll ever get a reward
even Genshin as my first gacha game, without tutorials online it's already easy enough for me to understand in less than 2 days, and i wasn't even 13 yet when i started
As much as I don't want to defend this game all you really need to know about the gacha system is there within the click of a button , it's just parents blaming others for their lazy parenting.
According to your video almost everything the FTC is asking is already in the game. The gacha rates are already well explained in game. The only thing not included in the explanation is the soft pity system. The real problem here is that the 4* in the banners still 100% gambling. You can technically do 1 million pulls and never get the one you want. Standard 5* used to have the same issue but now we have the ocasional chronicled banners. As for the clarity issue they could just add the max and the average real money cost of a rate up 5* in their description. A pity count is more like a QoL thing.
I said this once and I'll keep saying it. Hoyo's Gacha system is NOT gambling. Each limited 5 star character has a fixed price of 28.800 primogems (with 5 star weapons being 25.600). The only gambling is on the standard banner and on 4 stars. But adding stuff like Epitomized path for those sort of things would make it, technically, not gambling.
Totally true here, no matter how much you hate genshin, it started the trend for the so called "gacha" games to be much more than just a predatory trap. It set a standard for gacha games like GTA 5 did for open world. WUWA, ZZZ, HSR and many other wouldn't exist if not for the creativity of hoyoverse.
@@championabovechampions5550 I can't believe a kid like you is smart enough to reply. Go check your facts first if you don't wanna get made fun of in the future. At least try to not act like an idiot "buddy"🙂
yea but, if they don't add the things needed or get rid of the american players, they'd just be fined again since they'd still be breaking the rules, paying once doesn't mean you can continue doing what you got fined for
I feel like the parental guidance for pulling is unnecessary, it’ll just make things harder and maybe even more confusing for younger players as well. Who has the time to confirm parental guidance, I’m sure we would have needed to ask before even downloading the app
Hopefully, we'll have at least 40 free pulls as an apology. No doubt this is wishful thinking but hey, one can dream right or better yet, a free limited 5 character or weapon. Maybe both
don't think they'd be apologizing to the players, they're already "apologizing" to america itself by paying the fine but the american players get nothing, only the government gets richer
This point is very unclear, and I'm not sure how it's legal. Primogems are an in-game currency that can be obtained just playing the game. You don't have to buy them via Genesis Crystals if you don't want to. Requiring an ID check to spend in-game currency will set a dangerous precedent. My instincts tell me we need to wait for further clarification from Hoyoverse. They wouldn't have caved so easily if there was a real threat of a primogem lock.
I’m I the only one how finds it stupid that they are basically stopping the youglings from playing the game how it’s supposed to be played why would u stop them from wishing 😔
So… I’m fifteen, almost sixteen, and for years been playing for almost three years and never spent a dime on the game. I NEED PARENTAL CONSENT TO PULL D:? (I’m confused pls someone tell me if I misunderstood)
I'm turning 16 in august but my want-to-pull character is gonna have a rerun very soon. I'd be panicking if I'd need parental guidance JUST to pull with my F2P wishes😓
Hoyo would probably just put a system like in porn sites or steam where they just ask your age and you could easily just put a false date every time. Not much will change since they already got fined and would do the bare minimum to say that they did what they were instructed.
I get that them showing your pity in the open but its not that hard to multiply the pages since your last 5 star by 5 and add or multiply any half pages
I have been fairly lucky with pulls over on Genshin, playing since launch of the game. However, this recent update with the pyro archon banner, it has been exceedingly difficult to get a five star pull. Same with the weapon for the pyro archon. Since I have played for so long, four years I think when counting those birthday cakes Hoyo send, I have never had to since so many many primogems to get a five star. Anyone else noticed a difference? 😅 I have many characters at full constellation, which means the wish system is annoying for players like me. This means when characters are rerun, I will get a four star that I have full constellation on and only get the chance to do one more pull in the exchange shop for a wish. It would be great to have a system like the weapon banners, where you can work towards a character with fate points, and then you don’t lose the characters you are wanting in a run.
UMM IM SO CONFUSED PLS, DO UNDER 16 YEARS OLD LIKE ME CAN'T PULL AGAIN IN THE NEXT.. UPDATE? 😭😭🙏🏻 ( i already save for arle/shenhe banner pls psl pls pls pls pls pls )
Personally i dont really care, i know how the banners work even if im under 16, and i dont spend much money anyways. My parents know about the game (they got me a welkin for christmas) but that might make it easier for others
Nahhh bro thats crazy you have to ask ur parents to wish on a character if u were under 16? if it was 13, it might be a bit more reasonable but 16? hell nah bro
about a pity tracker: persona 5 x has one and it shows you how much you need to get a 5* theres also two types of banner guaranteed 5star banner (needs more pulls) non-guaranteed 5star banner (needs less pulls)
It I think is related to CsGO and it's basically a box you open can be paid or not and it's basically gambling open it you can get a bad thing or good thing
The only down side to this I’m hearing is that it won’t feel as much like gambling. In which case I have to ask, why not just go gambling? Like, this was some straight up addict talk
I would also like to say that the pull history website updates every 30 minutes so lets say you're trying to pull now and you wanna know how many you need to hit pity, the website won't update fast enough for you to check while you're pulling so you'll just keep pulling. A pity counter will not ruin the fun because there's always a chance you might hit it earlier or you might not even get the featured 5 star.
⚠These changes only apply to the U.S. right now. It’s unclear if they will affect other regions.
I’ll update you if anything changes!
Phew
They will likely just do the same as fortnite
Thank god i hope nothing happens to the asia server users
If it's only for the U.S, then I'm safe. Imagine going to your mom and being like: mom I need your consent to gamble
Phew, my 15 yo ass is saved
I can't see how you want to add protection for children under 16 without being forced to use ID verification.
I really don't want to give my ID to a random gacha company. Parents should be held responsible for what their kids do online
Yeah I don't want to give my id to a gacha company too
Maybe countries could add a system so that you have a number linked to your ID (a number that isnt public ofc), so instead of sending your ID informations you could send the number and firstname, that way they'll just have to check if it has the same number and correct firstname (so you cant just randomly take any number and use it)
Just make gacha more forgiving?!?
Tbh I'm okay tho. I think hoyo is trustworthy enough and not such a shady company. In my country, looking for a job, registering for medical attention, etc require an id so I'm kinda used to it. It's not like hoyo will post my id on the internet for everyone to see. Besides, I'm nobody
@@ordinarycat9978 Why do you think hoyo is not a shady company?
They have in genshin they have predatory gacha thats the reason government even said anything and literally no passion by the devs, the recent natlan if you dint have this meta exploration character you will not have fun so stupid, and story is so cringe.
in honkai star rail literally powercreep every patch this is literally free money glitch and they have whole 10hr of story you will rather watch whole lord of the rings and still have like 1-2hr of story,
Literally every game made by them has no passion and people are still not broken from the brainwash of hoyo since pandemic,
Genshin story has so many plot holes its crazy
Hearing about kids having to get permission from parents to wish and top-up actually reminds me of the story about how a boy stole his parents' money to top-up his account where that money was supposed to be payment toward his sister's medical bill since she had some crazy illness.
😭😭😭
I REMEMBER THIS
I remember this. I was like bro! This is why I say parents need to lock away their cards and money in a place no kid can get into. If my daughter asks me for a top up, imma have her explain to me why she needs it. Get her to think first if she really needs it or not. But she’s 3 so I have around 13 or less years until that happens. Assuming she ends up playing games lol
Can you find the news article please?
I need it for my project 🥲@@Lumine01-r3o
That’s so sad
uhhh... Apologems?
Precisely! ✨
Yes they're making major changes so atleast 10 pulls are guaranteed🔥🔥🔥
@@Rusted-z2o I'm spending it on standard heheh 😈
not just Apologems its gonna be even better than that LETSGO
100k apologems for me
Huh I don't get it. In the first place why kids under 16 having their parents bank details or card ... Isn't it all the parents fault??
Exactly. Plus Genshin is a 12+ game according to the App Store, it really shouldn’t be.
@@NihilityEditz And that's to me is a problem. Parents won't know what Gacha is to begin with because they're not online as you are, just thinking it's a basic free game for kids to play. Gacha is just soft core gambling. Yes you get free pulls if you plan enough but do you think kids can think that far ahead. Plus gacha has something more powerful than cash, connection with a character. You may love a character's story because it pulled your heart strings. It may not affect you personally but there are kids who can be influenced by gacha very easily. Should the parents do a better job? Yes but companies are exploiting this and the goverment is patching things up.
@@Patpig10and that's why the app is rated 12+, most responsible parents would actually check if the game is suitable for their kids first before allowing then to download it. but unless they actually trust their child or they're just really irresponsible they'll just let them do what they want, if the child develops gambling addiction because of the game yet the parents didn't check what the game is about, then their fault, if they did check but still allowed it and the kid got gambling addiction then that's their fault too, if they know something might be an bad thing in the game, why let them play?
@@Patpig10 Aopolgies if I said something I shouldn’t. I 100% agree and I’m honestly glad something is finally getting done about it.
Let’s be honest when it comes to children. It’s the reason why things are changing and restricting.
What do you mean counting pulls is so tedious? The wish counter goes up by 5, it's not a problem to count by 5s up to 70.
for ppl like you and me, yes it's not, however, this is the modern world we are talking about, people can't assed
it was filed from the US... and some kids there are.......
and wow, they finally succeded in getting money from hoyo...
Whether its easy or not, it is obviously made to being hard to count. I dont find it hard to count but the latency is definitely done purposely. You wont get the latency in wuwa and its much better.
When they can have counter on top that manages the count like on zzz why will I manually go and do it, plus why can't they make the counter to 10 pulls per page or 6 like before!?
american kids just dont know shit on how to do math, thats just how it is.
A friendly reminder - FTC still didn't do anything about FIFA and other EA games, that has 10 times more predatory monetization.
Priorities.
both are bad we can be happy one company is getting sanctioned and then ask for the other rather than say lets sanction neither
I feel like because hoyo is from china, and EA and FIFA are from their allied countries?🤔
@soup2504 Yeah, a company that gives you a chance to grind things yourself and give you actually good games is as terrible as the company that not only force you to pay for every move, but their games perform really terribly.
Seriously? Mihoyo as bad as EA?
How come games like cs is not getting fined yet?? Dude that game crate make me suffer more than pulling on a freakin banner.
West propoganda
most painful thing to watch was that background clip poor arlecchino tryint to take down robot chicken without bow character xD Edit:- i was not expecting this many likes thanks
I've done this, lol. Emily was the only dmg I could reliably do for a large portion of that fight.
a true pain
Most painful thing is getting through the “boring as fk dialogue” in Genshin side quests.
wheres lyney when u need him
Dehya: Y'all need bows?
Psychologically, this kind of would reduce urge of gambling for some upto some extent.
It will not.
So that's good
Nope. Not happening. Most players don't get the cast they want and that induces sadness into them and they knew how to weaponize it brutally.
Well idk about that. Usually when things get banned or taken away, people just try harder to find a way around it so they can continue doing it.
Gacha had existed before Genshin. Also, it just affects the US. It will probably had no effect outside the US, as it probably adhered already to Chinese or the Singaporean laws (since the global version was based on Singapore).
Nothing gonna stop kids from just lying about their age 💀
force to show id. So now kids steal their parent id to play a game 😄😄😄😄😄😄☠☠
Well, you can add a pity counter, but it would be pretty useless. Is it so hard to just multiply the number of pages in history till your last 5* by five? Did we learn nothing in school?
well I have friends who are over 13 yet struggle with that, some people can have a disorder preventing them from learning it as well, but I'd say at least adding a pity inside the "history" menu would be good, like putting it above the list of your past pulls, then people can still have the excitement if they don't check the page
Is it so hard for the developers to just add the pity counter instead of letting their players painstakingly count their pity every few hours?
exactly bruh
@@femto4848 well it isnt that hard but it is confusing me why yall dont just multiply the pages by 5
yes i know there is people with learning disorders that dont let them do that but it would still be a little useless
@ might be "useless" to most players but even then, it wouldn't be harmful, it's just a few extra numbers that wouldn't be that hard to even code in the pull screen or even in the "history" screen
it's crazy how doing simple things like simplification of instructions/systems and giving player more benefits to its users could have prevented this
70 million is sadly just a drop in the ocean that is hoyoverse. the new regulations however are going to take away major tactics that allow gamling to function
@@300ml_brasil its only 20 million, not 70 ...
you meant to say.. how being less predatory as hell, would have avoided this ?XD
@@ChristianKessler4185 smaller drop then. im sorry anyway i must have misread the title
Genshin gacha It's still less bad than the gacha in many other games
It's just because they're a big chinese company.
There are american companies that apply methods way more predatory. In a lot of games, the existence of pity doesn't even exist.
It's a fine for not paying a bribe, essentially.
Dawei's burner account spotted 😆
pet simulator moment, that game literally gets so many kids addicted to gambling
*cough* Dragon Ball Legends *cough*.
Chinese companies have had a history of "collecting data" for a while now.
I play zzz and there's a pity counter, like "7 more wishes for a 4*" Or smth like that. I'll admit, there's a certain spark missing, but it's also pretty nice to know "ooohh here comes [character]!!"
Yes! Its great to see when we get a 4* or 5*
Honkai Impact 3rd has also had a pity counter forever, which makes it weird why Genshin doesn't have it, because as far as I know it's hoyoverses only gacha game without a live pity counter.
@lukaaknows thank you for sharing! I wanna play hi3 and hsr but that darn "insufficient storage"..
@lukaaknows HSR doesn’t have it either
Yeah! The same goes for Tears of Themis since it has a pity counter
1:20 bro if you suck at doing basic calculations and you're over 11 you're cooked.
Calculating the exchange rate isn't some engineer type of stuff, if you can do first grade (i think that what it's called in English?) equations then you can calculate exchange rates.
I agree with the rest but I can't with the exchange rates being "confusing".
“Bro” you’re stupid if you don’t realize the multi currency system in gacha games was specifically designed to obfuscate the actual amount of money you’re using. That’s why they have 2 levels of detachment. You trade cash for one currency, then that currency for another currency. Then you have a long description of drop rates and tedious ways to track how far you’ve come towards pity. These are all put in place to detach you from the money you’re actually using for each pull and make it as confusing as possible without being overtly illegal.
@@Millicenteit literally took me like 5 minutes to understand when I first played it ain’t that hard
@Millicente genesis crystals convert to Primos in a 1:1 ratio, dont they? Probably one of the least mathematicaly confusing extra currencies around...
Better yet, can’t calculate exchange rates? Search on the phone??? On the computer??? We can search for shit now
Also what is so confusing about 160 primo = 1 pull????
10 pulls = 1600 primos
20 pulls = 3200 primos
.
.
.
90/ 180 pulls = (punch the calculator on your phone) 14,400 primos/ 28,800 primos
We have calculators for this reason.
@@camil3545 Yes but primos translate 160 to 1 pull, which is intentionally confusing. And you cant see your current pity as the history takes a bit to update
The loot bar ad at the end after a video like this was the funniest shit ever 🤣🤣
Fr though
You mean people count pity 1 by 1? Bro just multiply the number of pages by 5 😂😂
Before it was 6 table now it's 5 but it's still too hard for us so pity counter would save our 5sec which will be useful when we will be doing some quest tapping to skip dialogue 🎉
So relatable
@@Pragya070 bro what do you mean "it takes too long to multiply 6 by 5" what did you even learn in elementary school then...
@@eva1742 Gender studies. lol
@@eva1742 if you just multiply it by 5 it will round off the pity, People like me who sometimes pull 1 by 1 and not 10 times at once need to count it 1 by 1 to see if we're at sofy pity
Bro there is a pity counter in zzz they could have added it along time ago
Yeah they just don't want it in genshin and hsr idk why. It's in hi3 as well so idk why it's not in genshin and hsr.
Lots of other gacha games plainly show the pity counter too. Love and Deepspace and Twisted Wonderland come to mind. Genshin implementing a pity counter would not be "setting a precedent for the industry" lol. People who only play Genshin don't realize how behind the times it really is.
Yeah exactly!
ong
@@Crab380Most people really don’t care about such a small feature tbh
Lets be honest: they do this only because it is a Chinese game. Fcnkg Fifa with their lootboxes is PEGI-3, Diablo Immortal has a much worse gacha system than Genshin.
Its more like a bribe or permission to earn money in our territory (USA), wild and greedy capitalism
I agree there is games that has lines for a increase chance with no indicator for what it is. Or were you buy a premium item with your premium currency for a activity were there isnt even a 100% chance you get what you spent money on with no pity.
Just as how US is banning huawei and tplink. Have to pay up that bribe money.
When you say it like that it's might be right.
Diablo Immortal isnt a gacha though. A gacha is a game with a lootbox/casino like main feature. Diablo Immortal does not have gacha. Its also because Genshin is probably one of the biggest mobile games of all time, nothing to do with the fact that its chinese lmao. You are just stupid.
2:35 BS. You can't count? Every page has 5 pulls, how is it hard for you?
Okay, yeah some screens has 6 pulls. Still not hard.
Kids under 8 probably
@@maxenitethe one with the 6 on one page is from ages ago so i absolutely agree with you
I can tell you right now my little nephew told me where I see my history in this game and when I showed him he told me that I was playing this game for 3 months and now he figured it out
Maybe its an American thing?
4:59 gambling is always gonna feel like gambling. Winning the 50/50 is still gonna feel great, seeing numbers that keep track of when we will get a 4 star or a 5 star wont ruin the rush of gambling cuz it doesnt mess with the odds. We just wont have to count anymore, and we could always get our rolls early
nope tbh when i see numbers my gambler side runs away. i love counting it myself while pulling or checking history. seeing numbers makes me feel annoyed it looks ugly. maybe thats because we didnt had a counter from the start but it would look so out of place
@@erasersheesh your gambling spirit is weak AF if seeing a pity counter dampens it 😂
Overall, having an automatic counter like Honkai Impact 3rd (a Hoyoverse game that has came wayyy before Genshin, HSR, and ZZZ) has already existed. So I am not sure why Genshin hadn't placed that there.
Damn, we might just get 80/20
Hope
Please 🙏
Yess
5 copies of Tartaglia on a 10 pull please 😂
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Smile I want that too
2:15 they already show the rates...China made it mandatory years ago.
yea but since this is focusing on children and young teens, many of them might not pay enough attention before spending, that's why they want it to be even more clear
@@BoothiIlthat's why Razor exists, to explain in Razor language:
Max pity: 90
If not rate-up, guaranteed
If rate up, 50/50
Capturing Radiance? Forget that
Epitomized path = temporary guarantee
Weapon pity: 70
Standard? Pull only when blue wishes
Chronicle? Same pity, more chars + epitomized
Noelle banner = not worth pulling a second time, 1 enough.
@ and, what about the minors who don't have it explained to them?
@@BoothiIl I am a minor too and if someone can't understand a basic gacha system then they're stupid, Anyone with an IQ of room temperature can understand unless they're little kids like 10 year old but if they're that young then just don't play the game cause they won't understand anything at all in the game anyways
@@BoothiIlokay but that's not the company's fault, why fine them? Genshin's system is one of the most straightforward out there, yet of course they will let EA thrive
I go in the wish history and count base 5, every page has 5 wishes. Pretty easy and fast. Ive never found that tedious or annoying to do
Exactly this. It doesn’t even take that much time like it was just stated here. All that fuss about nothing now. Honestly
It's not annoying to count but it's definitely annoying that it takes time to update the history
Fr, I take 1 min to know what pity I'm at, ant that's because just loading the history where it shows takes me 30s (i play on mobile😢)
Literally, just requires third grade math, but i think the problem is that the ingame explanation is a little confusing
But it could be clearer nonetheless. With a built-in counter to reduce this step.
Imagine the under sixteen one looking for their parents and telling to them "I need your consent to pull for this thicc waifu with the prismogems that I grinded by myself please" 💀
Thicc waifi pwease💀
I don't think any sane person would say that to their parents.. Would just tell them "it's a cool character, I really like her. Can i get her please!!? I admire her alot!"
@@Luminee_01I know but it’s still funny to think about that possibility 😂
If they show the real odds, it might make people spend less money. Because let's face it, we all know how horrible those odds are, so they might also improve the odds to keep spending money appealing. Which would be great for all players.
These laws probably only applies to USA. Not other countries.
Ok so people outside of the USA won't be affected right?
@@mizuruinenereal most likely yes. Unless organization like U.N get involved. Most people outside USA most likely won't get the new system. Thought it's debate able. Because hoyoverse may switch the system entirely for all global players to avoid other countries security department to sue them.
@Shameek009MCNah, why will they lose their revenue worldwide just because of the US.
Like the US isn't even the top spenders in gacha.
They will just make a separate system for the US and let the money keep flowing from other countries.
It would be unfair to other server players if the USA gets a high character drop rate 😗
Hopefully that won’t be it. I’m on a Asian server and I don’t live in the USA, I don’t have the gacha banned or can’t pulled on. (Pure f2p)
Teen here. I think if there was a data breach in terms of the law it’s alright to take action on that. But parental permission on pulling as a whole? I have parental controls which mean I cannot spend real money in game without permission, but I am free to pull whoever I want with the tickets and jades I do have in the game because either that adds to my pity if i get no 5* or I get a 5*. That part is a little strange to me.
EDIT: (first off yes i read all the replies, consider this as a sort of addon after seeing what ya’ll think) in fairness, yes, the probability statistics and all are a bit confusing and I see the concern as gacha games are essentially gambling. I just think that a lot of these problems don’t need to be solved by parental control from the get go. If it isn’t working out, fine, add the parental controls. imo there’s a lot of places we can start that may not require such a huge change.
I agree, while I no longer fall under the under 16 bracket, it feels weird that Hoyo is being fined for something that feels like is more under the parents control as opposed to being under Hoyo's control. Cause the children using real money would have had nothing to do with Hoyo, cause parents themselves should moniter that, not a big company and we all know that some children don't put in their actual age for a lot of online games like genshin...
Nah game like these do not belong to kids, these game are just gambling machine at the very core of profit. These games are the one that muddy the water in term on value of money, $100 seems a lot until you realize game like these paints you an inflated picture of the value that its worth, you end up paying more then it is actually worth. Kids may not have money and parents definitely monitor how there kid interact on the digital world however you cant blame a parent when you have a game that is really good at disguising itself from monetization, you end up having a younger adult having a perception of what these are worth and the risk they can get into financially.
This is me yapping but you cannot assume everyone has a good judgement on perceiving value financially, and gacha games along with other heavy micro transaction game diminish the perception of money especially for the younger age. This is why you cant gamble in the casino as a kid in america and gacha game is no different
Its gambling in disguise. Back in the days these type of game are mostly in adult entertainment form where they cater to adult who can afford to buy a card to refill, now they’ve gradually going after the kids through parents credit card
It's gambling, which is highly addictive. These types of "gacha" systems shouldn't be introduced to kids/teens, even if they are not spending real money on them.
@_planetMagi The problem here is that the game has children as one of their main target demographics and heavily advertises to children, as well as using deceptive practices.
On one hand a parent should monitor their children, on the other hand that doesn't excuse targeting children with what's effectively gambling. Especially when it's known how damaging it is especially at an early age.
So yeah it makes perfect sense, if you want to make a gambling product without child protections then make a gambling product targeted at adults.
Like by your logic we should allow children to drink alcohol and smoke because after all the parents should be monitoring what they are doing 24/7 so why should the government do anything about it.
so we just.. cant pull? i get not letting kids pay real money but can we just no pull anymore??? i think this is stupid. why is anyone upset? i thought it was pretty clear about how pulling worked :/
I think what that is the fact that you cant pull unless you ask ur parents if ur under 16,, which is still kinda stupid... Like i get under 10 or smt but 16? Teens arent idiots
@polarivyfairy exactly. I get under 13 maybe but damn. Just don't let them pay cash. What hard is in game currency's gonna do, you dont exactly HAVE to pay money
it was never confirmed what hyv was going to do about this fine so there isnt clear proof that that is the case. that was just a general rule stated by the government, hyv has the right to deal with that issue in any way they feel is fair to themselves and the players. so if anything we'll probably only see a change in pity rates, it would be way too difficult to have to age restrict the *main* point of the game. hyv would surely lose a good chunk of their profits if that was the case, at least from the US that is.
@@gwardes alr thanks for telling me. this video slightly confused me. im not in the US anyway but i never know what will or wont affect me
@@Alhaithams_headphonesBro is scared because he's under 16 💀
1:11 I know nothing of what they talk about since I barely spend on Genshin and I don’t spend on any other gacha
I'm actually glad they're doing this but at the same time, I'm hoping this doesn't just increase gacha game scrutiny on the whole, by a government that lately seems to be really interested in banning what we can and can't do on the internet (ex: TikTok).
This isnt hoyos fault The kids shouldnt spend money without their parents consent and if they do thats on the parents not HoYoverse
I think most of the fine is about getting kids addicted to gambling, not about the money itself
Did you hear about SMS paying or prepaid card? or you can just ask any friend in school to buy it for him and he would give him cash. For parents it is imposible to stop kids. You would have to need to chain them in your cellar
I saw a story where a kid spent his parents savings to pull in genshin that was supposed to be for the kid's sister's surgery(I think).And I think the parents were asking for a refund but Idk what comes next.
I don't think that's hoyo's fault.
Hoyo actually refunded thier money
Omg
the solution was pretty easy: refund all money and ban his account.
why would someone want to have that scandal in cn for 3000$ when they get millions lmao
How is that hoyo's fault ? 💀.parents need to start acting like parents .our generation is going downhill because of idiots like these
as someone under the age of 16 having to get parental consent from my parents to wish on any banner feels like torture
for real though, I don’t want to ask everytime I want to pull for someone. In fact, I don’t think my parents even understand what happens in the game anyway
It is not your money anyways.... So what is your point? Should have always asked go begin with.
@@oKenshinHimuradude.. they’re talking the the in game currency.. delete your comment to avoid embarrassing yourself
@@oKenshinHimura From the video the law doesn't seem to care if it's the child's money or not. These 16 year-olds might be spending their own hard earned cash for all we know. 1:25 The legal issue was child privacy not taking child-money.
@@comp0001 Ah right, the hard earned money from their work at school. Those homeworks do pay out it seems. Get real for 1 second
you all are idiots lol, if they will make it possible to buy a banner 5 star for pure $$$$, then do the math you be having to fork up $300 for a 5 star via shop, Since 180 pulls is your guaranteed pity for banner 5 star, So instead of playing lets say $100 if your lucky, You be coughing up 3 times that lol
give us 100 free wishes for this hoyo plz and thank u
Wow soo greedy
@@atingkonyak6453double it for a guaranteed limited 5star
Not enough. 500 should do.
@@Elti979wdym at least a c6 five star of your choice
How about 2,000 wishes??
I find it weird, the statistics are publicly available, only that soft pity starts at 75 and the capturing radiance system is convoluted
for me 70 to
90 is hard pity 69 and below are soft pity
@@josephlouisg.bondoc361274 below is just an early 75+ is soft pity and 90 is hard because that’s just how it is soft pity means when your chances slowly go up and up and hard pity just means when it’s guaranteed
erm achsually 🤓 soft pity starts at 74 🤓🤓☝️
It’s because the US can’t fully tax hoyo.
@@josephlouisg.bondoc3612 it doesnt make sense, from 1 to 73 you have *equal* chance of getting 5* and from 74 to 90 it increases by 6% each
as someone who is a (pretty much) day one genshin player (started at age 14) i definitely think the restrictions for younger kids are needed. i’ve now spent about 2k on the game over the 4 years i’ve played and most of that was because as a young kid i didn’t realize just how outlandish spending 50+ EVER BANNER was… now i barely spend anything and i’ve had to break my gambling addiction :/
Not all kids are like that most of them aren't even allowed to spend money so they do it without promission but that's only some kids most of them listen to there parents it's juist u who did it with some kids spend over 2k I never spended 2k in my life on a game max 200 till now counting all games I spended on so it's only u who spended 2k with some other kids idk. With their parents' promission or not u prob did it with promission (not trying to be mean if I sound like it and dont comment yeah it did sound mean cus it's annoying tbh )
But I agree kids need to have a parental control but most of them are gonna put a fake date 📅 of birth
@@xshino_ this was the biggest nothing burger I’ve ever read, I’ve retyped this comment like 5 times because the layour of yours was just, yk. If somebody was spending *2k* on a game w/o permission, don’t you think their parents would’ve seen the bank statement?
plus ‘it’s just you’ is a factually incorrect statement here, have we not looked into the world of Minecraft ‘Keys”? Have we not looked into the world of CS:GO crates? This is a huge problem not only in genshin impact, but across ANY other game with the capacity for this type of trip.
Child gambling is a very real, and veyr prevalent issue. Somebody comes forth with their experience on it and you _shut them down_ ? It’s clear you didn’t want to be rude, don’t worry about that feild of it, but the fact of you being condescending as still remains.
50+ every banner, you're so green behind your ears :D
I spend on each banner until I get the character. No questions about spending.
As a free to play kid I just think its sad for ME now, because my parents are strict with games and I don't spend but now I have to ask for permission? Im 15 turning 16 soon so sigh....
well I had mixed feeling about this , on the one hand I clearly favor the change to protect kids from impulsive pull and predatory mechanism , on the other hand , as an adult , am fully aware of the gacha and pity mechanics and need not the authority to made it a spell it all out affair , I can easily tally the pulls I've got and I can manage my purchasing , gacha game by its extension and mechanism , actually do games and benefit from the gacha CHANCE mechanism , its part of the fun , though I do understand not everyone had the self control nor the Mathematical skill to actually understand the mechanism
Instead I think the FTA should takje a hard look at many of the loot box mechanism on the various non-gacha game , which I find even more predatory and even more confusing , but then those are usually from the western developers and FTA seems unwilling to challenge
perfect example of increasing tensions between china and the united states
It's hard to argue this point, since it seems Hoyo is being singled out despite certain Western developers having much more predatory lootbox mechanics. Hoyo probably settled because they realized getting a fair hearing in the United States would be all but impossible.
It's not the ONLY gacha game that does that, so it's weird that it's the only one that got fined.
Relax. More gacha games are next in line. It just so happened that Hoyo started this trend and has earned the most. That is like you asking the US govt to slap a fine to Apple, Google, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. all at the same time. lol
For most outsiders, Genshin Impact is usually the first game that comes to mind when talking about the gacha genre. It's pretty much been the embodiment of the Gacha industry, and a LOT of aspects are borrowed from Genshin and used in other Gacha games (Wuwa and the upcoming Arknights game for example). The theory is most likely if they hit the "beacon" of the industry like that then it would encourage other games in the industry to follow suit.
@@Gurenn83 you're not making any sense / lol why do i need to relax / hoyo def did not start the gacha trend / why do you even want to fine those all at the same time what for and how is it even close to hoyo
@@CoreZeroPH Maybe if you use 1% of your brain before responding that would help? Hoyo out of all gacha games has been the top earning gacha company globally. Can you name a gacha game that beats Genshin at the #1 spot? I will wait..
Second, you took the analogy seriously. I was just using those tech companies as an example to help you understand why only Genshin is in the hot seat and not the other gacha games (as you pointed out).
Makes sense now? But based on your last response, I do not expect you to understand everything I just said.
@@CoreZeroPH Where did you leave ur mind?? Probably never had one to begin with...
Bro I won't lie for a few years I've been saying I'm so not proud to be American like all these stupid rules about trying to restrict the internet like when will these old people learn no matter what you do kids can just lie like stop blaming the games AND BLAME THE PARENTS!
Fr, and the problem is overprotecting the kids and not let them do ANYTHING. They'll get bored and make up things to have fun as lying and doing things they shouldn't. Instead why don't parents try to teach them how to use money, how the world works and internet works instead? Teach them how to think and not just leave them clueless. Then they'll grow up, be 18 and not know anything about how the world works and make stupid decisions because no one thought them to think for themselves.
So real dude.. although I do understand that restricting minors would be good as addicted kids are a real issue as well but the question is how to do this without making others feeling left out bc of those measures making it more difficult to spend their own money if they wish to and the other thing to take account in..that in games purchases are like drugs , cigarettes or alcohol, it's not encouraged to minors (even forbidden) but it always have it's flaws no matter what you do
(American here) I started playing when I was about 15 or 16 I can’t remember when exactly but I’ve never had a single problem understanding the system implemented by Hoyoverse nor has it ever been *tedious* to me, I think the reason this happened is because of lying little kids and irresponsible parents and that one kid who spent his sisters medical treatment money on Genshin
I think they should just ban the kid and refund the parents their money instead of changing parts of the system because this is ridiculous when a single incident affects more than tens of thousands of individuals and I’m not trying to be non empathetic but this is stupid
It’s been over 20 years. They’ll never learn. My mom literally played games and watched anime to decide if it was okay for us growing up. Like a response parent.
I can tell you're an American if "blame the parents" is your ideology loooool
As a both a 16 year old and a European, so this doesn´t affect me in any way, I think it´s just absurd. This is a problem between the parents and the child, not the game. They should control their spending. Plus the pity system can be easily searched up and explained even in razor language, so I think it´s just a personal issue. But I have to agree on the data thing. Just a subjective opinion.
Hey so, does this not affect people out of USA and idk? Because as a 16yo I had a friend that is like younger than me by 1 year, and I don’t think she would be any happy to know she can’t pull anymore but we both Latinos so…
@Ahahsheuwiaisisse Nope, it's USA only
@SmthbyRynn OHHH GLADLY!! My younger brother and my friend will still be able to play with me, well, I think their parents would let them anyway
How can companies tell that the plays actually above the age of 16 with out invading private info? I mean you can’t just tell them to “ hey kid, show me your Id”.
I’m a younger player and the wishing system is very easy to understand. Also, there’s an online pity counter or you can count by 5
Well seeing people pull the character in the banner at 10 pulls and 3 5star character in one 10 pull
Who wouldn't have a mental breakdown seeing that
Why would you have a mental breakdown over something this insignificant.
@@garaktartv3647 because some people spend 180 wishes to get only one 5 star
@garaktartv3647 this insignificant? wow you're not a genshin player are you? Because clearly you don't care or even wanna hear why.
@@garaktartv3647 Just cause it's insignificant to you doesn't mean it is to OP. JFC.
@@Darksin757Production maybe but its stupid to stress about something you literally have no control over. But be my guest be your own enemy lmao.
This is retribution for my 3 continuous 50/50 loses 😂
3 u say I have been playing genshin since its release and lost every single 50/50except on nhai banner now imagine my suffering
Bro how is that possible 💀 such bad luck...@@codeimpact8468
If u lost those 50/50s in versions 5.0+
U will not only get a guaranteed pity but also the next 50/50 will alps be guaranteed making it 2 guaranteed(just saying if u dont know)
How are you losing three 3 times? Capturing Radiance?
I LOST all my 50/50 in 2024 😢
On one hand I like this, on the other I hate that it just shows that parents can't seem to raise a kid properly. These kids should have never had access to in game purchases in the first place, but Hoyo should also have had a more clear indicator of pity and actual prices for pulls. All these people suck
@@ste---ny4lh
A geniuene question though.. have you ever played genshin?
Their pity is clear as day and the prices for pull is as straight forward as it could be, sure there are conversion here and there.. but like.. do they not teach math at school? What are we spending 9+ year in school for? Cmon you have to be below 3rd grade (which btw genshin is rated for 10+) to actually be mislead in any way.
Honestly imo it's more of a political move than anything. China and Usa has be infamous for their "rivalry" well whatever it is they dont like each other
And it is oddly coincidental that out of hundreads of other similiar if not worse gacha/lootbox game, it has to SPECIFICLY be the one game made by a chineese company, ignoring the other 50 company not from china
“counting the pity is such a tedious process” dude.. every page has 5 wishes on it, so just count by 5
My 40-year-old ass throwing my credit card at Hoyo like: ONE MORE WAIFU, PLEASE! 💰
Honestly it’s just pure politics to target Genshin when EA and even Valve are far more egregious with their gambling aspects
Goverments anywhere always want a portion of corporation (especially foreign corpo) profits. If they dont get one, they'll always impose sanction as a threat.
Honetly, common practice. They're gonna use every excuses available to do so.
The fact that it's a Chinese game and it was timed on the possible crackdown of Tiktok in the US.
Going by the phrasing... So kids won't even be able to pull for the characters even if there wasn't any purchased crystals? They would just be accumulating primogems they got from chests, achievements and events? Talk about losing out💀
So dumb....this game is for teens 12 or older (at least in the playstore) they arent helpless little children make the restrictions for people playing whos under that age
@@Itz_Rozyexactly why is it always 16 and under I think a 15 year old is smart enough like a 15 year old can go to jail but can’t spend their primogems?
@marshmelefunny because there's specific age ratings. PG-13, 16+, 18+, you get the gist
essentially it's kinda supposed to outline puberty and maturity. around 13 most hit puberty (although I think kids are getting it earlier now) and around 16 puberty ends. so at that point they kinda go "okay they've grown up, but not enough to be an adult out in the world"
@@marshmelefunnyi agree that 15 year olds are pretty smart tho
fr like by the time im 16 i'll have accumulated enough primos to c6r5 a character 💀
Simple. Give players a choice if they want the additional information or not.
The info is there, you just need some grade school level math to figure some of it out.
Help but what if the ppl under 16 are f2p and grind the pulls them self, does that mean they need their parents consent to pull even when they grinded it themself?😭
@Vqqyi that is literally me a few years ago
oh im cooked then, im f2p and my parents would NEVER let me pull if i asked
Lootbox/gacha restrictions to children is actually a good thing.
And then theres the other half..
..so how about the US educational system that specifically leaves out curriculum on statistical mathematics that would help people easily deduce the cost of pulls. Approximately $1.979 usd per pull. Not even slightly hard to figure out 🤷♂️. It's not a companies fault that we Americans are lacking proper educational materials.
If the US Lotteries don't get hit with the same litigation.. racist fine.
I just saw hoyo fined and clicked😂
Lol same
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Same
Free primos coming in boii
@@Rusted-z2o are you crazy???
3:02 ZZZ already has that feature btw
Yeah they did a good job on that one
Honkai impact and tears of Themis too!
But this is abt genshin
2:42 i find counting it fun actually
Right?
It is still predatory. It doesn't tell you how much you've spent directly
@@imnotreanalbertospynotatal6968you can easily make some calculations to get a rough estimate of how much you’ve spent
@@imnotreanalbertospynotatal6968 so u guys cant multiply page number, number 5 and 160? ...
Same
They could also display if the wish was a radiance too
2:57 Zenless Zone Zero or Honkai Impact 3rd.
Both Genshin and Star Rail should implement the little counter they have.
1. Personally I have my own records on
- Number of pulls till now from the start
- Number of times won/Lost 50-50
Weapon Banners, Standard Banners. I can definitely say how many pulls I made for the past 3 years. Since it's a Gacha game, I came in prepared.
2. We can see every country is taking steps prevent youngsters mis-using internet (like ban of Social media under 16) as it is taking an huge evolution into AI. We will see lots of changes. Remember how Gacha system used to be before Hoyoverse. Ofcourse Since Genshin has a big story yet to complete, we will see a lot of changes in the future 2 - 3 years. I personally want Hoyo to survive, because I want to see the complete storyline of Genshin.
3. WHY ARE YOU USING XANGLING's BURST WHILE THAT DRAKE IS FLYING !!!!
Simple solution. If you’re so young that you don’t have self control you shouldn’t be playing, it’s the parents fault for not checking the game. If you are old enough and confused, just watch a video or take 5 minutes in the internet to understand?
Idc all i want is arle to come home asap
me with mizuki
Same
Wait so is primogems getting removed and we have to use real money im confused
Mavuika way better than midlechino
@prometheusredux5840 no it's not
Fun fact: the counter of how much is left to win has been in Honkai Impact 3rd forever
No idea why they forgot it in Genshin and HSR
My letter to hoyo:
I want 100k primogems in my mail thanks
Sincerely Genshin Impact players
And you will spend it on one character C6R5 and thats all . This is dumb demand . More like ask for new survival permanent event
@@Ramuid32343or a free limited 5 star of our choice in a permanent banner
I want a free c6 limited 5* character and a r5 limited 5* weapon of my choice 🗿
It’s small, but ZZZ tells you how close you are from an A (4*) and S (5*) character. A change like that would be nice
That and a backup resin system😒
The pity counter was already implemented on ZZZ but not in other hoyoverse games
Correct me if im wrong but doesnt wuwa have it?
@@WenTekaru You do know Wuwa isn't hoyoverse games right?
If you don't then now you know 😅
Hi3 had pity counter since ages
@@WenTekaruuh yeah but wuthering waves is not hoyo games, he said other hoyoverse game not other gacha games.
@lmao ik its kuro! I just remember theres a pity count or smth
Didn't Hoyo already put this system into hi3? Saying '100 pulls till S-rank' or '90 pulls till S rank' why didn't they add this to other games? Hi3 was even released before, and the system doesn't make it not fun, simply easier to know when you will get a chara.
Honkai Impact 3rd already has a tracker that tells you how many pulls you need to get a 5*..it isn’t that hard to implement it into genshin as well but they obviously didn’t wanna do it (especially because history doesn’t immediately update while you are pulling so unless you count the pulls u can only guess how many u did)
the amount of excitement we get from pulling in the banner vs the whole time lost grinding every map before banner ends and getting a qiqi then proceeding to use card. it is a clear difference. and im happy for this change. although i lost so few times on pulling banners but lost in my favs like alhaitham, navia, mavuika
It's not that hard tbh. What's the point in being excited when you finally get what you want when everything is just there in front of you. It's also not that hard to count how much pity you are in because it's just multiplied by 5. Simple math.
ZZZ has a Pity counter on the Event Banner Page. Why not Genshin and HSR?
Pity counter meaning the either the current amount of wishes? Or the remaining number of wishes before you get a 5 star?
Remaining pulls until you get a 4 or 5 star @@carloscalderon2808
@carloscalderon2808 remaining number of wishes till 4* and 5*
@@carloscalderon2808 Both, they show you how much pulls you have done since the last S rank and how much are left to get pity.
@@ZolDubs ahh, then for genshin you just need to access the wish history and then manually count your wishes.
That system is already in place since day 1.
what is funny is hoyo already has a pity counter/wish counter built into the banner UI in hi3rd which came way before than GI. it's clearly in hoyo's interest to confuse people.
its not confusing bro...
Lol, learn to count... manually
@@PC-mw7ko counting ain't the issue here. it's just funny to me that 2 hoyo games have a wish counter and other 2 don't. same company but using 2 different business models.
The crystal to primogem ratio is 1:1. I was shocked when I first knew of it. What is the point of conversion ?
Thus I have decided to be a F2P from day 1 of playing and still am after playing for 4 years. I only pull when I have around 160 pulls to guarantee, so no gambling involved.
same here.. i sometimes buy welkin and dont convert them unless its so necessary because the f u mean 1:1 its too expensive
I don't see an issue with in-game currency when you can get it from as little as opening a chest or playing with your volume.
If this is your first gacha then it is indeed confusing and hard to know when you'll get the 5★, however some people already know how gacha games work
yea, and I'd say having a guarantee system is more fair to prevent gambling addiction than having just a chance with no guarantee you'll ever get a reward
Even having this as my first gacha game, watching some tutorials made it really easy
even Genshin as my first gacha game, without tutorials online it's already easy enough for me to understand in less than 2 days, and i wasn't even 13 yet when i started
WHAT OMG?! THANK YOU SOO MUCH FOR EXPLAINING!!! ❤
u didnt even watch the full vid yet ඞ
Attention Seekers are Insane
@ieatforkz lmao...
@ieatforkz still she said that she’ll explain everything!!!
As much as I don't want to defend this game all you really need to know about the gacha system is there within the click of a button , it's just parents blaming others for their lazy parenting.
According to your video almost everything the FTC is asking is already in the game. The gacha rates are already well explained in game. The only thing not included in the explanation is the soft pity system.
The real problem here is that the 4* in the banners still 100% gambling. You can technically do 1 million pulls and never get the one you want. Standard 5* used to have the same issue but now we have the ocasional chronicled banners.
As for the clarity issue they could just add the max and the average real money cost of a rate up 5* in their description.
A pity count is more like a QoL thing.
I said this once and I'll keep saying it.
Hoyo's Gacha system is NOT gambling.
Each limited 5 star character has a fixed price of 28.800 primogems (with 5 star weapons being 25.600).
The only gambling is on the standard banner and on 4 stars. But adding stuff like Epitomized path for those sort of things would make it, technically, not gambling.
Totally true here, no matter how much you hate genshin, it started the trend for the so called "gacha" games to be much more than just a predatory trap. It set a standard for gacha games like GTA 5 did for open world.
WUWA, ZZZ, HSR and many other wouldn't exist if not for the creativity of hoyoverse.
@@h2hmuse Wuwa was in development way before genshin even realeased buddy
@@championabovechampions5550 I can't believe a kid like you is smart enough to reply. Go check your facts first if you don't wanna get made fun of in the future.
At least try to not act like an idiot "buddy"🙂
@@championabovechampions5550confidently incorrect.
it used to be gambling for the weapon banner .Probably they got fined because of that ...
i mean...20 milion isn't much for them
..
Ya but it's actually an average amount they income from a banner
@@montasir_02 yea :D meaning its not much really.. 1 less condo for da wei i suppose..
I'm quite sure it's still a lot, and i mean like a lot lot. Hoyo could make their own chat gpt or something like that with that much money
yea but, if they don't add the things needed or get rid of the american players, they'd just be fined again since they'd still be breaking the rules, paying once doesn't mean you can continue doing what you got fined for
I feel like the parental guidance for pulling is unnecessary, it’ll just make things harder and maybe even more confusing for younger players as well. Who has the time to confirm parental guidance, I’m sure we would have needed to ask before even downloading the app
Hopefully, we'll have at least 40 free pulls as an apology. No doubt this is wishful thinking but hey, one can dream right or better yet, a free limited 5 character or weapon. Maybe both
Oh I wish the company was this generous. I want a Homa after losing it with Nahida's weapon
don't think they'd be apologizing to the players, they're already "apologizing" to america itself by paying the fine but the american players get nothing, only the government gets richer
@@BoothiIl which is kinda sacks
@@thozamilemaqungo2149 good luck using them lol
Under sixteen here and I think not being able to pull without my parents consent is dumb I think they should make only purchases require consent
@@Xaneok-rf4lc if this were true I would not mind the update
This point is very unclear, and I'm not sure how it's legal. Primogems are an in-game currency that can be obtained just playing the game. You don't have to buy them via Genesis Crystals if you don't want to. Requiring an ID check to spend in-game currency will set a dangerous precedent.
My instincts tell me we need to wait for further clarification from Hoyoverse. They wouldn't have caved so easily if there was a real threat of a primogem lock.
I’m I the only one how finds it stupid that they are basically stopping the youglings
from playing the game how it’s supposed to be played why would u stop them from wishing 😔
Real! The issue isn't the people wishing it's the odds and the financial burdens
So… I’m fifteen, almost sixteen, and for years been playing for almost three years and never spent a dime on the game. I NEED PARENTAL CONSENT TO PULL D:? (I’m confused pls someone tell me if I misunderstood)
I'm turning 16 in august but my want-to-pull character is gonna have a rerun very soon. I'd be panicking if I'd need parental guidance JUST to pull with my F2P wishes😓
Buying pulls need parental consent
Hoyo would probably just put a system like in porn sites or steam where they just ask your age and you could easily just put a false date every time. Not much will change since they already got fined and would do the bare minimum to say that they did what they were instructed.
Yeah like I'm turning 16 in June and am f2p (started it 3.3)
Oh yeah because multiplying by 5 is a tedious process, right? Don't hit a mosquito with bazooka, will you?
So this is what Corporate Racism feels like
I get that them showing your pity in the open but its not that hard to multiply the pages since your last 5 star by 5 and add or multiply any half pages
I have been fairly lucky with pulls over on Genshin, playing since launch of the game. However, this recent update with the pyro archon banner, it has been exceedingly difficult to get a five star pull. Same with the weapon for the pyro archon. Since I have played for so long, four years I think when counting those birthday cakes Hoyo send, I have never had to since so many many primogems to get a five star. Anyone else noticed a difference? 😅
I have many characters at full constellation, which means the wish system is annoying for players like me. This means when characters are rerun, I will get a four star that I have full constellation on and only get the chance to do one more pull in the exchange shop for a wish. It would be great to have a system like the weapon banners, where you can work towards a character with fate points, and then you don’t lose the characters you are wanting in a run.
UMM IM SO CONFUSED PLS, DO UNDER 16 YEARS OLD LIKE ME CAN'T PULL AGAIN IN THE NEXT.. UPDATE? 😭😭🙏🏻
( i already save for arle/shenhe banner pls psl pls pls pls pls pls )
Whar confuses me is how thay know our age 😭 like I set my age as 20+ so nothing should change right?
Personally i dont really care, i know how the banners work even if im under 16, and i dont spend much money anyways. My parents know about the game (they got me a welkin for christmas) but that might make it easier for others
Nahhh bro thats crazy you have to ask ur parents to wish on a character if u were under 16? if it was 13, it might be a bit more reasonable but 16? hell nah bro
exactly, like every 14 year old I've seen in genshin has known enough already, 16 is too far
Honestly it's kinda weird to see children playing predatory/addictive gambling games and people normalizing it :C
@@skibidisquid I still honestly still find it unfair for like the 12 hardcore f2p players that are like 10
I doubt anything is going to change honestly. Parental restrictions are very hard to implement into the game itself.
about a pity tracker: persona 5 x has one and it shows you how much you need to get a 5*
theres also two types of banner
guaranteed 5star banner (needs more pulls)
non-guaranteed 5star banner (needs less pulls)
03:26 ya it's called gambling, my dude
What the heck is a lootbox
under 16 spotted
It I think is related to CsGO and it's basically a box you open can be paid or not and it's basically gambling open it you can get a bad thing or good thing
2:23 Less predatory what 😭🙏
The only down side to this I’m hearing is that it won’t feel as much like gambling. In which case I have to ask, why not just go gambling?
Like, this was some straight up addict talk
I would also like to say that the pull history website updates every 30 minutes so lets say you're trying to pull now and you wanna know how many you need to hit pity, the website won't update fast enough for you to check while you're pulling so you'll just keep pulling. A pity counter will not ruin the fun because there's always a chance you might hit it earlier or you might not even get the featured 5 star.